BTS discussion thread

[Lily-Blue]

@TheNightDuck you're pretty positive yourself. Lily Blue's comment doesn't read positively to me lol


It looks like you're comparing LGBTQ with Islam as if to say Islam is harmful and damaging to people? I know there's alot of Christians that view Islam as the worst thing in the world. This site is filled with them. If people with LGBTQ came to Islam it would the best thing that could happen to them. It would give them a purpose in life and a way to cope with the battles they're struggling with.

They could come to Jesus, too. They're welcome to and they do. I'm not talking about gay people individually, I'm talking about the gay mafia. The LGBTQ et al. That group as an organzied body, against the organized body of Islam, will lose in my opinion. Because Islam is faithful to Allah.

With respect to Islam, you are correct. My comment was not meant to be taken positively. I was simply making a statement. Of course many Christians view Islam as the worst thing in the world. Christians are the most persecuted people group in the world, BY ISLAM! So naturally, we're on guard.

On the other hand, where did I find the most excellent overview and critique of BTS and its hold over girls and women worldwide? By an Imam who made an excellent youtube video. Where have I found the most indepth explanation of the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Satanism, etc. – 'The Army of Satan' youtube series produced by you guessed it, a Muslim (the Rational Believer).

Because we Christians have dropped the ball and allowed ourselves to be run over and devoured by sin because of unfaithfulness to God's Word, there will be no final conflict between Christians and LGBTQ. We've already lost. Islam will not lose that conflict, though, if or when it comes.

 

[TheNightDuck]

They could come to Jesus, too. They're welcome to and they do. I'm not talking about gay people individually, I'm talking about the gay mafia. The LGBTQ et al. That group as an organzied body, against the organized body of Islam, will lose in my opinion. Because Islam is faithful to Allah.

With respect to Islam, you are correct. My comment was not meant to be taken positively. I was simply making a statement. Of course many Christians view Islam as the worst thing in the world. Christians are the most persecuted people group in the world, BY ISLAM! So naturally, we're on guard.

On the other hand, where did I find the most excellent overview and critique of BTS and its hold over girls and women worldwide? By an Imam who made an excellent youtube video. Where have I found the most indepth explanation of the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Satanism, etc. – 'The Army of Satan' youtube series produced by you guessed it, a Muslim (the Rational Believer).

Because we Christians have dropped the ball and allowed ourselves to be run over and devoured by sin because of unfaithfulness to God's Word, there will be no final conflict between Christians and LGBTQ. We've already lost. Islam will not lose that conflict, though, if or when it comes.

Wow Lily Blue what Imam is this?'

 

[Lily-Blue]

The Bible does teach homosexuality is wrong. It also teaches we should live each other and not judge others. Therefore, no matter what I believe about homosexuality, I would try to be loving and supporting to them.
I don’t see homosexuality as a battle that has to be won and in any case, there is more than one way to win a battle. What better way to be good example of Christianity than to love someone in spite of the fact you may not agree with their lifestyle, than hating them for it?

But we do love them. We welcome them into our churches. We have friends and family who are gay. But what we also did, is condone their lifestyle. Why did we do that? That's not Biblical. Jesus said to repent and we will be forgiven. There is no forgiveness without repentance. Therefore, there can be no such thing as a gay church that follows Jesus. So there is love abounding but there's also something called obedience that we have forgotten.

 

[Lily-Blue]

Wow Lily Blue what Imam is this?'

I lost him! It was about a year ago that I found his video and I didn't save it. It was long and he went through everything. He was very understanding of the situation and had researched into BTS in order to make the video. As he was researching, he found that he really liked them. So he could see how young women were taken in so completely, and could make his case with that in mind. I got all of this with english subtitles but it was easy to read. If I can find it again, I'll post it here.

 

[Hon33]

They could come to Jesus, too. They're welcome to and they do. I'm not talking about gay people individually, I'm talking about the gay mafia. The LGBTQ et al. That group as an organzied body, against the organized body of Islam, will lose in my opinion. Because Islam is faithful to Allah.

With respect to Islam, you are correct. My comment was not meant to be taken positively. I was simply making a statement. Of course many Christians view Islam as the worst thing in the world. Christians are the most persecuted people group in the world, BY ISLAM! So naturally, we're on guard.

On the other hand, where did I find the most excellent overview and critique of BTS and its hold over girls and women worldwide? By an Imam who made an excellent youtube video. Where have I found the most indepth explanation of the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Satanism, etc. – 'The Army of Satan' youtube series produced by you guessed it, a Muslim (the Rational Believer).

Because we Christians have dropped the ball and allowed ourselves to be run over and devoured by sin because of unfaithfulness to God's Word, there will be no final conflict between Christians and LGBTQ. We've already lost. Islam will not lose that conflict, though, if or when it comes.

I think one of the fundamental differences between Christianity and Islam is - and I’m sure the Muslims here can correct me if I’m wrong - is that Islam believes that everyone is born in to the faith, whereas Christians do not.
In Christianity, unless you are a believer, it really doesn’t matter technically what type of personal relationship you have with each other because if you don’t have one with God, you won’t receive salvation.
If a gay person is also a Christian, then that’s where the complication lies. I wouldn’t want to be in that position and because I think it must be a dreadful situation to be in, I would try and offer that person love and support. At the end of the day however, that person has to account to God for their decisions and not me, so I will not judge them. I will have a hard enough time accounting for all the bad decisions I’ve made in life.
It isn’t Christians who have allowed themselves to be devoured by sin. No one is Christian by right. You are only Christian if you make a choice to enter into a personal relationship with God. If you do that you are going to try very hard not to be devoured by sin. Refusing to castigate someone for being homosexual does not mean you’ve been devoured by sin.
I have a whole other set of opinions I could post about the whole issue but I won’t because this is not the place to do it and people would get angry with me for taking up the thread.
We had a very high profile case here about a Christian bakery that refused to decorate a cake with a homosexual slogan. After repeated court battles, they eventually won their case on appeal that they had the right to refuse to put the slogan on the cake. Do I agree with that? Absolutely! Was the bakery deliberately targeted by this gay couple to make a point? Absolutely! The gay couple had the right to put whatever they wanted on their cake, but the Christian bakery had the absolute right to refuse to do so because of their beliefs. Do I agree with gay marriage? No. That’s not why God created the sacrament of marriage. Do I believe that gay couples should be protected by law in a legal partnership? Yes. They deserve the same rights as far as financial security or domestic abuse as a heterosexual couple. Should they be allowed to marry in a church? No. If they’re not Christian, why would they want to?
Asking people to have respect for people and not assume sexuality or gender and not villify people because of their sexuality is the humane thing to do. It does not mean you agree with everything gay people do.
People like our friend Boti however, who add fuel to the fire of hatred, by implying you can spread HIV by kissing someone, do harm. She’s spreading misinformation.
Accusing BTS of paedophilia and today, beastiality, is beyond reproach. That’s not making aware of the truth. That’s spreading vicious, unfounded lies. That’s why I’m on this thread.

 

[Lily-Blue]

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Because for evil people in the end all that maters is money. Like with BTS. Doing and promoting all those things.



Who cares for a billionaire that you have some crazy men abusing women. Or homosexuality tying to kill the rest of the population. Homosexuals hold the biggest buying power. It was estimated at 3 billion yearly. It’s not like normal people gather together and try to defend themselves .

Gay people are forcing everyone to give them money which then are used for lobbying and controlling media.

I thought it is the lowest of them all when they’ve pushed gender dysphoria that far.

I was wrong. To read how they started early sexualization in 1st graders in U.K. and USA at the same while pushing and attracting them to gender dysphoria, encouraging to touch themselves and saying it’s nothing wrong (WHO even promotes teaching children about masturbation. CHILDREN), telling them how love is accepted even between them and someone older and nobody, NOBODY is saying stop....

When they do (the Muslims in the U.K.) or when they TRY, better said, to protest, suddenly first amendment rights don’t exist.

As far as race being taboo but the rest possible..Canada has introduced a bill which equals any negative comments towards people suffering from gender dysphoria as HATE CRIME.

Telling someone that there is no thing as transsexuals, that it is a mental illness, to refuse to address a man as “her”, is the equivalent of engaging in white supremacy/racist crimes.

Apparently there is no greater sin today than the one addressing the truth.

It's true! It's a hate crime here to used the wrong pronoun for transgenders now. This is what upset Jordan Peterson so much that he launched out everywhere saying he was not going to be compelled to use any speech that was not his own. Our country is going completely totalitarian.

 

[Hon33]

But we do love them. We welcome them into our churches. We have friends and family who are gay. But what we also did, is condone their lifestyle. Why did we do that? That's not Biblical. Jesus said to repent and we will be forgiven. There is no forgiveness without repentance. There can be no such thing as a gay church therefore that follows Jesus - how can this be? It's can't. So there is love abounding, but there's something called obedience that we have forgotten.

Do you know the story in Acts of Ananias and Sapphira? How they did one thing and said another? How they were struck down by God for the incongruity of what they said and what they did?
There is no point in welcoming them into your church, if you are going to come here and spread hatred about them. How about you leave the repenting to them and the forgiving to God while you just get on with being a good example of love and fellowship to them?
If you’re going to accept them, then do it unconditionally. By all means let them know you don’t agree with their lifestyle and then move on. You can’t do both.

 

[sadtruth]

They could come to Jesus, too. They're welcome to and they do. I'm not talking about gay people individually, I'm talking about the gay mafia. The LGBTQ et al. That group as an organzied body, against the organized body of Islam, will lose in my opinion. Because Islam is faithful to Allah.

With respect to Islam, you are correct. My comment was not meant to be taken positively. I was simply making a statement. Of course many Christians view Islam as the worst thing in the world. Christians are the most persecuted people group in the world, BY ISLAM! So naturally, we're on guard.

On the other hand, where did I find the most excellent overview and critique of BTS and its hold over girls and women worldwide? By an Imam who made an excellent youtube video. Where have I found the most indepth explanation of the Illuminati, Freemasonry, Satanism, etc. – 'The Army of Satan' youtube series produced by you guessed it, a Muslim (the Rational Believer).

Because we Christians have dropped the ball and allowed ourselves to be run over and devoured by sin because of unfaithfulness to God's Word, there will be no final conflict between Christians and LGBTQ. We've already lost. Islam will not lose that conflict, though, if or when it comes.

Okay, I see what you mean now. Thanks for explaining. Islam doesn't allow it's rules to be shaken and changed, although there are a lot of people trying to. You can find a small minorty of LGBTQ "Muslims" fighting for their right to be both, but yeah they will always be told it's not Islamic and there's no way of changing Allah's words. No Muslim will allow that. The only people supporting that are LGBTQ supporters lol It's nice to see you recognise how strong Islam is.

You haven't already lost - Those who have chosen to change and go against God's word are the ones that have lost. They're been blinded by Satan. There's still people like you who are staying true to Christianity at it's core. Christians and Muslims don't see eye to eye on a lot of things, that's for sure, but we have so many similarities. Those of you who follow your book closely are just like us because we believe in the same God. There doesn't have to be so much hate.

I don't think I've seen that video. I'll have to search it up.

 

[sadtruth]

I think one of the fundamental differences between Christianity and Islam is - and I’m sure the Muslims here can correct me if I’m wrong - is that Islam believes that everyone is born in to the faith, whereas Christians do not.
In Christianity, unless you are a believer, it really doesn’t matter technically what type of personal relationship you have with each other because if you don’t have one with God, you won’t receive salvation.

It's basically the same in Islam. We believe everyone is born a Muslim, so as a baby you're a Muslim, but that can change once you're old enough to understand and make choices. If you chose to become Christian, Atheist, Buddhist, leave Islam etc you're no longer Muslim. If later in life you're guided back to Islam then you're a Muslim again. That's why people say they reverted back to Islam.

 

[Hon33]

@Hon33

I am flattered yet scared over your obsession with me and continuous targeting and offending.

I believe you are mentally unstable.
You are no longer trolling, you are simply deranged.

The things you write are simply insane, wrong and you are putting your life in danger as well as the one of people around you.

I am replying to you because we are talking about a fatal disease and you have the wrong information about it.
HIV can be transmitted through kissing in case of open wounds.

Actors are in general very exposed to any sort of transmitted disease because they engage in extreme physical contact, are often wounded or scared.

Many of them are contracting over the years cankers, herpes, infections, just due to the nature of their work.
Like for example SHARING A CHEWING GUM.
HIV-positives have almost zero immune system, bleeding gums or sores are common casualties accompanying their life.
Many people have open sores in their mouth, like for example very often BTS members.
There you have your “not transmissible HIV” through kissing.

You can go on and offend me and others in every post like you do.
No forum is a help for you.
But I hope that you can at least learn something about AIDS.

From CDC

HIV Transmission | HIV Basics | HIV/AIDS | CDC

Get anwers to answers some of the most common questions about the risk of HIV transmission for different types of sex, injection drug use, and other activities.

www.cdc.gov

* Eating food that has been pre-chewed by a person with HIV. The contamination occurs when infected blood from a caregiver’s mouth mixes with food while chewing. The only known cases are among infants.
* Being bitten by a person with HIV. Each of the very small number of documented cases has involved severe trauma with extensive tissue damage and the presence of blood. There is no risk of transmission if the skin is not broken.
* Contact between broken skin, wounds, or mucous membranes and HIV-infected blood or blood-contaminated body fluids.
* Deep, open-mouth kissing if both partners have sores or bleeding gums and blood from the HIV-positive partner gets into the bloodstream of the HIV-negative partner. HIV is not spread through saliva.

Sweetie, I’m a nurse. I’m well-versed in the transmission of HIV. You cannot get it through saliva. It has to be through other body fluids. Saliva contains enzymes and natural bacteria which actively kill the virus. I don’t know about you, but most people I know don’t have people pre-chew their food. Most people don’t bite each other and your own information points to transmission from biting happening in a small number of cases. It states deep open mouth kissing where both partners have wounds?
Even in the instance of kissing someone with open- wounds on or in their mouth, the actual risk of getting HIV is very, very low. It’s generally not a good idea to go around kissing people with open wounds in or on the mouth. Your much more likely to get other things than HIV!
I don’t know what kind of entertainment industry, you’re involved in. Maybe you should look for a new employer. You do know that when they film sex scenes and stuff, they don’t really have any actual contact unless it’s some kind of porn movie, right?
You don’t think that if there was any risk of actors contracting diseases from intimate contact with other actors, they would let it happen? Everything you post just shows how little of the world you understand.
Honey, we live in a litigious society. You don’t think if there were risks of actors contracting any kind of disease by contact with each other, they wouldn’t be suing companies left, right and centre?
Honey, I’m not obsessed with you. I feel sorry for you.You clearly don’t really work in the entertainment industry, or if you do, you work for a really bad company.
Your knowledge about HIV is laughable, as is your lecture to me about learning more about it. The evidence you posted in support of what you are saying totally contradicts the point you are making!

 

[Lily-Blue]

UK

What?
Here in the U.K. and across Europe, human trafficking is taken very seriously! I can assure you of that!

I think one of the fundamental differences between Christianity and Islam is - and I’m sure the Muslims here can correct me if I’m wrong - is that Islam believes that everyone is born in to the faith, whereas Christians do not.
In Christianity, unless you are a believer, it really doesn’t matter technically what type of personal relationship you have with each other because if you don’t have one with God, you won’t receive salvation.
If a gay person is also a Christian, then that’s where the complication lies. I wouldn’t want to be in that position and because I think it must be a dreadful situation to be in, I would try and offer that person love and support. At the end of the day however, that person has to account to God for their decisions and not me, so I will not judge them. I will have a hard enough time accounting for all the bad decisions I’ve made in life.
It isn’t Christians who have allowed themselves to be devoured by sin. No one is Christian by right. You are only Christian if you make a choice to enter into a personal relationship with God. If you do that you are going to try very hard not to be devoured by sin. Refusing to castigate someone for being homosexual does not mean you’ve been devoured by sin.
I have a whole other set of opinions I could post about the whole issue but I won’t because this is not the place to do it and people would get angry with me for taking up the thread.
We had a very high profile case here about a Christian bakery that refused to decorate a cake with a homosexual slogan. After repeated court battles, they eventually won their case on appeal that they had the right to refuse to put the slogan on the cake. Do I agree with that? Absolutely! Was the bakery deliberately targeted by this gay couple to make a point? Absolutely! The gay couple had the right to put whatever they wanted on their cake, but the Christian bakery had the absolute right to refuse to do so because of their beliefs. Do I agree with gay marriage? No. That’s not why God created the sacrament of marriage. Do I believe that gay couples should be protected by law in a legal partnership? Yes. They deserve the same rights as far as financial security or domestic abuse as a heterosexual couple. Should they be allowed to marry in a church? No. If they’re not Christian, why would they want to?
Asking people to have respect for people and not assume sexuality or gender and not villify people because of their sexuality is the humane thing to do. It does not mean you agree with everything gay people do.
People like our friend Boti however, who add fuel to the fire of hatred, by implying you can spread HIV by kissing someone, do harm. She’s spreading misinformation.
Accusing BTS of paedophilia and today, beastiality, is beyond reproach. That’s not making aware of the truth. That’s spreading vicious, unfounded lies. That’s why I’m on this thread.

I agree on most of your points regarding Christianity although not all that you made. We do need to let sinners know their eternal souls are in grave danger. This is not castigating them or judging them, it's saving their lives. To not do so is to do them a disservice. We all want to be in heaven so let's help each other by speaking the truth. Please forgive me for using up this thread if this is not allowed here but I'm just going to throw this out really quick:
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." –1 Corinthians 6:9-10

 

[Lily-Blue]

@Lily-Blue @sadtruth

In Europe the situation in Sweden is the most escalated one and the irony of it is that gay mafia and Islamic immigrants have gathered together against the Parlament.

Both parties have often engaged in mutual protests. It’s the only country here where this phenomenon has been observed.
While the naturalized Islamic immigrants are fighting against the Islamic immigrants brought in after 2015 and are being vilified because of it.
Naturalized Islamic citizens are often targeted by the Islamic immigrants. Even though they have been there for years.
And the gays are attacking the naturalized Islamist.

Gay Sweden Democrat: 'We're not welcome at Pride' - Radio Sweden

Bo Broman, the finance chief for the anti-immigrant Sweden Democrats, this year became the first openly gay man to put himself forward as a parliamentary ...

sverigesradio.se

Gay Sweden Democrat: 'We're not welcome at Pride'
Earlier this month, Stockholm Pride refused to let Medborgerlig Samling, or the Citizen's Coalition, a new right-wing party, join the Pride march.
But Medborgerlig Samling is not the only party never to have taken part in the parade. The anti-immigration Sweden Democrats have also never marched at Pride.
"The party has never made a request to participate, to my knowledge," Broman says. "The Pride organisation today I think is unfortunately very left-wing, so even if we wanted to take part, we wouldn't be welcome."
Listen above to hear Broman explain why he wants to represent the Sweden Democrats, even though it has the weakest parliamentary record of the country's political parties on gay issues.

The Sweden Democrats are the conservative party in Sweden? This is murky indeed. That guy, Bo Broman, is shrewd.
He's trying to preserve gay rights by running for parliament in order to gain a position of power. He goes on to say it's not immigration that is a threat to gay people in Sweden but "certain religions and parties". Then he quickly cites the Nordic Resistance Party as an example. Good one. It's those damn right-wingers! (even though he's running for office in another right-wing party that he says welcomed him and displayed zero homophobia).

All I can see here is a case where another organized body is thrown into the mix (the right wing) to muddy the waters. Looks like the leftie pride organizers and the muslim migrants rightfully banded together to keep the conservatives at bay. But take Broman's party out of the mix and Houston, we have a problem. Now there's just the Left/LGBTQ and muslim migrants. Again, I have a good idea of how that would end as Sweden is not big enough to hold both forever.

 

[Hon33]

UK


I agree on most of your points regarding Christianity although not all that you made. We do need to let sinners know their eternal souls are in grave danger. This is not castigating them or judging them, it's saving their lives. To not do so is to do them a disservice. We all want to be in heaven so let's help each other by speaking the truth. Please forgive me for using up this thread if this is not allowed here but I'm just going to throw this out really quick:
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." –1 Corinthians 6:9-10

I did say you should let them know you disagree with them.
Look closely at that verse you quoted - in particular the word “revilers”. Find a definition of that word and then look at some of the things that are written in this thread. Remember when you’re lecturing about homosexuality and all the other things, that all sins are equal in the eyes of God. If you or anyone else on this thread is showing contempt or being abusive to others, then they are as guilty of sin as anyone else. I think calling someone, who is absolutely right when they are wrong, deranged comes under that. So is accusing people of paedophilia, beastiality and Satanism.
I am well aware of what I’m guilty of. I have no illusions about that. That’s why I try not to be hateful to others.

 

[Lily-Blue]

Do you know anything about the treatment of Afro-american slaves and what she is depicting?
Yes, it depicts disturbing images but that’s because that is what black slaves were forced to endure at the hands of white people who thought they had the right to take what they wanted, and did.
The problem here is not what the artist is depicting! The problem here is that white people - mostly males, but not only males - did in the first place. Those scenes are sickening to look at, but that’s the harsh reality of what happened. The artist is telling a story about what happened in America, that never, ever should have had to be told - more evidence really, that evil existed long before Kpop.
White men and women perpetrated violent, sexual crimes against slaves just because they could to humiliate and degrade them. I’m sorry if that makes you uncomfortable. Personally, it makes me ashamed to be white!

Don't be ashamed to be white! People. We didn't do these things. Our ancestors did them in a different era. The whole thing is sickening but white people weren't the only slave-owning race nor did we escape being enslaved ourselves. Slavery is old. There's a real push to get us to feel bad about ourselves but we need to remember the good things we've done. We can't control the past.

 

[Lily-Blue]

I did say you should let them know you disagree with them.
Look closely at that verse you quoted - in particular the word “revilers”. Find a definition of that word and then look at some of the things that are written in this thread. Remember when you’re lecturing about homosexuality and all the other things, that all sins are equal in the eyes of God. If you or anyone else on this thread is showing contempt or being abusive to others, then they are as guilty of sin as anyone else. I think calling someone, who is absolutely right when they are wrong, deranged comes under that. So is accusing people of paedophilia, beastiality and Satanism.
I am well aware of what I’m guilty of. I have no illusions about that. That’s why I try not to be hateful to others.

Yeah but we all lose our tempers at times....

 

[Hon33]

Don't be ashamed to be white! People. We didn't do these things. Our ancestors did them in a different era. The whole thing is sickening but white people weren't the only slave-owning race nor did we escape being enslaved ourselves. Slavery is old. There's a real push to get us to feel bad about ourselves but we need to remember the good things we've done. We can't control the past.

Slavery might be old, but the whole reason why that artist continues to use it as a focus for her work, is because it will always be relevant and it must never be forgotten.
We could say the holocaust was old and we shouldn’t feel bad that it happened - and of course you will find people here who will say if didn’t happen - but we should feel bad about it.
When we stop feeling bad about past mistakes, we risk them happening again. Next time it might not be black people in the case of slavery, or Jews in the case of the holocaust. Next time it could be Christians or Muslims or disabled people or old people.
We can’t control the past, but we can learn from it and try as hard as we can to make sure it doesn’t happen in the present or future.
You seem like a really nice person and I understand why you might think the music industry is wrong and that’s fine. In my book, theories about elitists controlling the minds of others and using them to pursue an evil agenda, is dangerous. It absolves each of us responsibility and accountability to each other. It leads to the kind of unpleasant things which are said here - it’s okay to accuse someone of cannibalism or paedophilia, because they are all being controlled by evil elitists who want to drive forward their agenda of sin.
If you are a Christian, you will know that sin started way back in the Garden of Eden and because Adam and Eve gave in to that sin, it has existed inside of all of us ever since. Satan doesn’t need people to control us and put it there. It’s already there. It always has been.

 

[Lily-Blue]

Tha

Do you know the story in Acts of Ananias and Sapphira? How they did one thing and said another? How they were struck down by God for the incongruity of what they said and what they did?
There is no point in welcoming them into your church, if you are going to come here and spread hatred about them. How about you leave the repenting to them and the forgiving to God while you just get on with being a good example of love and fellowship to them?
If you’re going to accept them, then do it unconditionally. By all means let them know you don’t agree with their lifestyle and then move on. You can’t do both.

That is the thinking that has destroyed the protestant church. First though, if anyone is not familiar with this Bible story (Acts 5), Ananias and Sapphira were a married couple who were killed by God for lying to Peter. They sold a field earmarked for donation to the early church but had covered up the fact that they kept some of the sale money for themselves. The plan was, everybody was supposed to donate their possessions to the apostles to distribute to the poor. The entire group of believers were in 100%. Ananias and Sapphira, on the other hand, were not. They gave a portion of the sale money to the apostles saying it was all of the money they received from the sale of the field. First Ananias lied the lie, and then Sapphira did. God struck them dead in their tracks in front of Peter, one by one. This is a sobering story for Christians to remember. We need to fear God.

Just as an aside, BTS wears the Fear God clothing line and they're satanic. This just blows my mind.

Anyway, I'm not sure if this is the best analogy for hypocrisy with respect to treatment of homosexuals but I understand what Hon33 means using this important story.

I'm just going to stand by my previous comment on obedience and the truth of God's Word. He says the gate to eternal life is narrow and few find it. This should keep us zeroed in on how to get through that gate. Sin is sin, and sinners ain't going nowhere but down if they don't repent from their sins. They (we) must stop doing them. I would of course not walk up to a gay person and start preaching in their face about repentance. But if they desired to join the church or become a Christian, I would gently tell them, "hey, these are the sinners who will not inherit the kingdom of God." And I would read them 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. It lists out sins.

Everyone needs to know what they are. That's not being judgmental, it's informational.

 

[Lily-Blue]

An

Waw
http://instagr.am/p/CAAUI8uJili/

Anything to stay in the news! At least a bridge is useful.

 

[Lily-Blue]

Slavery might be old, but the whole reason why that artist continues to use it as a focus for her work, is because it will always be relevant and it must never be forgotten.
We could say the holocaust was old and we shouldn’t feel bad that it happened - and of course you will find people here who will say if didn’t happen - but we should feel bad about it.
When we stop feeling bad about past mistakes, we risk them happening again. Next time it might not be black people in the case of slavery, or Jews in the case of the holocaust. Next time it could be Christians or Muslims or disabled people or old people.
We can’t control the past, but we can learn from it and try as hard as we can to make sure it doesn’t happen in the present or future.
You seem like a really nice person and I understand why you might think the music industry is wrong and that’s fine. In my book, theories about elitists controlling the minds of others and using them to pursue an evil agenda, is dangerous. It absolves each of us responsibility and accountability to each other. It leads to the kind of unpleasant things which are said here - it’s okay to accuse someone of cannibalism or paedophilia, because they are all being controlled by evil elitists who want to drive forward their agenda of sin.
If you are a Christian, you will know that sin started way back in the Garden of Eden and because Adam and Eve gave in to that sin, it has existed inside of all of us ever since. Satan doesn’t need people to control us and put it there. It’s already there. It always has been.

Let's remember but not commit suicide as a race in the process. We're already a minority worldwide.

 

[Lily-Blue]

I've been on this thread for hours and hours catching up. I apologize for making so many comments. I want to thank everybody for such awesome input and for everything I learned here from you all today. I can't come here often enough to keep up with everything but the time that I do spend on this thread is golden.