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Cintra

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"A third were linked to coronavirus, but deaths from other causes also increased, suggesting the lockdown may be having an indirect impact on health."

"Nearly 185,000 people have died in 2020 compared with around 175,000 on average over the past five years at this point of the year."

There is no big increase on a 3/4 month basis.
Its a long term thing.
I will have to see these numbers for months before I believe a conclusion can be drawn.

Partly because these are death registrations, not actual deaths.
Ultimately almost everyone who dies should get registered, but there are various things that can delay the process.

Take no notice of the covid vs flue lines.
It doesn't matter how they list the deaths, only how high or low these numbers are compared to the average. (in my opinion)
 

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I don’t think I’ve ever been more grateful for anything then that this didn’t happen while my husband was in prison.. from what I’m hearing the prisons are disappearing people right now - and they aren’t being sent home (except for the ones that are, I’m talking about something else).
 

justjess

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Yes thank god. Prisons are outbreak centers and nobody really cares about them so I’m not sure we’re being told the truth about what is going on there.

You really hearing that they’re getting disappeared? That’s not good. I still know some people there and I need to check in and see how it’s going or if maybe a few of them can get out. What did you mean with your last sentence in parentheses?
I mean the people that are going missing aren’t ones that would have been sent home. I’m talking maximum security lockdown facilities. So I don’t doubt people are being sent home in jails and possibly minimums but people being sent home does not account for what I’m hearing coming out the maximums...

And yes, I’m really hearing that. I have a lot of people I’m very close to that are still in there and scared to death.
 

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Ok so if I’m following right, more people are vanishing from prisons than are claimed to be released? Or that the numbers they are claiming to have released aren’t accurate? I see what you are saying now and it’s all bad.
The prisons where people are vanishing don’t qualify for prisoner release at all. They aren’t releasing violent felons.
 

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I thought this was note worth sharing. I found this on a group page:

We are seeing the most draconian measures enforced at all levels of government that we've ever seen in our lifetimes, and yet rather than being alarmed by the things going on, so many of you applaud.

People are being arrested for spending too much time outside, and you applaud. Pastors are being arrested for daring to hold church services, and you applaud. A child's birthday party is raided by police, and you applaud. A young woman is ticketed for going on a leisurely drive alone because it's deemed "non-essential travel", and you applaud. A parade of school teachers and administrators who wanted to drive through neighborhoods and wave at children is busted up by cops because they were "nonessential," and you applaud. A lone paddleboarder in the ocean on a beach without any other people around is arrested because he's violating quarantine orders, and you applaud.
People are being denied life saving medical treatments because they're not a priority right now (not "essential" as deemed by the government) as the entirety of our medical system is focused on one thing, and you applaud.

Businesses are beings forcibly closed and padlocked and owners arrested for refusing to shut down, and you applaud. Dairy farmers (and soon, other farmers) are being incentivized to stop dairy farming and to sell their herds, and you don't seem to understand the implications.
You're being told to use hotlines and online forms provided by your local governments to report your neighbors who don't obey, and you comply. You scold people day after day for not obeying government edicts, and if any of us dare to question what's happening, you lecture about how we're a danger to society and and we just don't care about people dying.

You've somehow managed to convince yourselves that the people whose lives are affected by a virus are MUCH more important than the people whose lives are being destroyed (and in many cases, leading to death) by the effects of a worldwide economic shutdown and impending worldwide depression the likes of which no one has ever seen before.

At what point will you start QUESTIONING what's going on? How far does the government have to push before you're jolted awake from your slumber? How far are you willing to go with this?
If they told you to load your families onto train cars so that you could be taken to Virus Protection Facilities for your own safety, would you do it?
YES. Yes, you would.That much has become painfully obvious to me. And the whole time, you'd be shaking your finger and yelling at those of us who refused, accusing us of being "a danger to society" and "not caring if people die."

But they don't have to load you onto train cars and take you to Virus Protection Facilities, or force you to comply, because you do that voluntarily. They control your mind. They control you through fear. They control you by convincing you that the world is a scary dangerous place, but they're here to protect you, care for you, and keep you safe, just as long as you OBEY.

They know that as long as you're locked inside your comfortable home with Netflix, Hulu, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and a cell phone, while dangling a $1200 check in front of you like a carrot on a stick, you'll comply. No force is necessary for the majority of the herd.
YOU ARE IMPRISONED, willingly, and you're too blind to see it.
 

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Ok copy. That’s very troubling though isn’t it? I wonder what’s really happening at the concentration camps on our border?
It’s extremely troubling.. even more so when you realize no one will believe what the prisoners are saying if they could even tell people that would matter
 

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Yes it’s a horrible sadness the American prison system :(
My aunt is trying to start some sort of massive protest/revolt atm.. I hated to say it but I told her son (who’s home) to tell her to stop ASAP unless she wants her other son (whose in Prison) to disappear in there.

When my husband was first locked up I used to complain to the warden about any injustice. Until they took him into a corridor with no cameras shackled and beat him half to death and IAIU didn’t go to “investigate” for months and when they showed up threatened him. Learned lesson the hard way.

From what I understand inmates are complaining their sick, for weeks, not getting med calls and then just being taken out with no word and never coming back or resurfacing elsewhere in the facility.
 

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Just keep on taking those flu shots people

Oh wow!!!

They really tried to persuade me to have one this year.
I kept saying no thanks, but they kept banging on about it.
 

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Here's spitting mad Vic advising governments on economic matters during this current pandemic.

.......(puts umbrella up)

*warning* he does use some colourful language.

 

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"China has not published precise figures for how many patients fall into this category."
#scamdemic

"But disclosures by Chinese hospitals to Reuters, as well as in other media reports, indicate there are at least dozens of such cases."

wow. run to the hills.
the article was shared within a reddit group of people who have been confirmed positive for covid. It was in response to someone who was talking about having symptoms and testing positive after 30 days. There are a lot of people who are discussing the fact that they still have to quarantine because they have tested positive a month later.

There is also a lot of research that I find valuable among Chinese sources. China is oppressed in their ability to provide information. They are not incapable of providing information.

according to the quantity of personal stories validating this information, it won’t be too long before we have more to reference about it from a western perspective too.
 

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Ford plans on bringing back 'skeleton crew' of workers this week in effort to start reopening factories, despite employee concerns over safety

And checking in on our test subjects..the sun always makes life seem good.:)
Quarantine fatigue is setting in: Smartphone data shows thousands are fed up of weeks under lockdown and going out in increasing numbers with huge crowds packing sunny beaches
 

Cintra

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Starting to see this today.
Tabloids have it, but nothing on the beeb yet.


Possibilities...
1. It's true, this is happening how they say.
2. It's nothing, and will turn out to be something unrealted.
3. People are not afraid enough yet.
 
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