Coronavirus

[Lisa]

It’s not. When people don’t have other options to be heard, they have to conduct in that way.

The healthcare workers could have stood on the sidewalks with signs..that would have been the peaceful counter protest then.

 

[Lisa]

If one group has a right to protest, so does the other. End of/

Sure...but one group doesn’t have the right to get in the other groups face.

 

[justjess]

If your group has a right to gridlock traffic and block entrance to essential services, the opposing group has a right to stand in their way. Can’t have it both ways. Sorry.

 

[illuminatimess]

The healthcare workers could have stood on the sidewalks with signs..that would have been the peaceful counter protest then.

That’s not the purpose of protests

 

[Lisa]

If your group has a right to gridlock traffic and block entrance to essential services, the opposing group has a right to stand in their way. Can’t have it both ways. Sorry.

Why would the other group want to get in their way? Especially if they are purportedly being peaceful?

That’s not the purpose of protests

A peaceful protest would have handled it that way.

 

[justjess]

Why would the other group want to get in their way? Especially if they are purportedly being peaceful?


A peaceful protest would have handled it that way.

Why would you want to block the entrance to a hospital? How do you classify THAT as peaceful but not the “counter” protestors?

Why do you seemingly have a problem with all protests except the ones that suit your own opinions?

 

[Lisa]

Why would you want to block the entrance to a hospital?

I wouldn’t.

 

[justjess]

I wouldn’t.

The group your supporting did. Hence the counter protestors. Goodbye

 

[Lisa]

The group your supporting did. Hence the counter protestors. Goodbye

How am I supporting them? I just thought the counter protesters should stay out of the way if they are gonna say they are peacefully counter protesting.

 

[rainerann]

Its not a peaceful counter protest if you are standing in the middle of the street, blocking traffic...its called passive/aggressive.

I’m sure they were hoping that the numbers of people protesting would speak for themselves.

Obviously, they didn’t think it was a waste of time. How are government officials going to know that people are tired of the lockdown if no one protests it? Especially now that Colorado is continuing to go left.

It’s bias, everyone has a bias, even those who think they don’t.

You do realize that in New York alone, there have already been almost 20,000 deaths. The US as a whole reported 34,000 deaths due to flu last year. Hopefully, New York won't reach that number by June, but you never know at this point. Most people didn't think they would get close to 20,000 to begin with. I didn't think they would get to 20,000 when this all started.

Polls show that the majority of people are not going to join the empty protests that serve no real purpose because the average person is more cautious before running out into the streets with brazen confidence that it won't have a negative effect on someone else. Maybe there is also a reason you don't see any healthcare workers joining the protests so they can fight for their right to go out to eat at a restaurant after work because most people realize that you should be a little more cautious to go join empty protests when there is no way to prove that more people won't end up dying because of things like this.

It is amazing how callous people can be and it was a really good point that the protest should work in reverse. If there was ever something that you really wanted to change about your working conditions, now would be a good time to pursue these things, but that isn't what people are doing. They basically want the freedom to buy a blanket that was made in the same factory as a blanket covered in small pox. I mean, just because it was in the same factory, doesn't prove that they will get small pox too if they buy it right?

If you look at the number of tests being done per million people in the US, the number of deaths could be higher. The ignorance of the real count might be a sort of bliss at the moment, but it isn't going to help us get back to normal. The reality is that you can't prove it wouldn't be higher any more than I can prove it would. And since nothing can be proven either way until more tests are done, it is stupid to go protesting a partial quarantine. No one is even under a full quarantine in this country. It is absolutely absurd.

Here is where you could look to find out how many tests have been done in each state along with drone footage of what looks to be a mass grave and people burying many people in plain pine boxes. The number of tests being done are incredibly low, but these people aren't protesting for a legitimate way to ensure that people are safe to return to work. They are basically only demonstrating a profound level of ignorance towards the reality that life is really this fragile. If no one has ever told you this, that is the truth. Life is fragile and a lot of people could die and things could get back to normal quicker if more people were tested rather than having more people get in their trucks and yell at healthcare workers that they should go to China if they want communism as though the implementation of quarantine has ever had anything to do with the ideological system of communism.

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

 

[justjess]

You do realize that in New York alone, there have already been almost 20,000 deaths. The US as a whole reported 34,000 deaths due to flu last year. Hopefully, New York won't reach that number by June, but you never know at this point. Most people didn't think they would get close to 20,000 to begin with. I didn't think they would get to 20,000 when this all started.

Polls show that the majority of people are not going to join the empty protests that serve no real purpose because the average person is more cautious before running out into the streets with brazen confidence that it won't have a negative effect on someone else. Maybe there is also a reason you don't see any healthcare workers joining the protests so they can fight for their right to go out to eat at a restaurant after work because most people realize that you should be a little more cautious to go join empty protests when there is no way to prove that more people won't end up dying because of things like this.

It is amazing how callous people can be and it was a really good point that the protest should work in reverse. If there was ever something that you really wanted to change about your working conditions, now would be a good time to pursue these things, but that isn't what people are doing. They basically want the freedom to buy a blanket that was made in the same factory as a blanket covered in small pox. I mean, just because it was in the same factory, doesn't prove that they will get small pox too if they buy it right?

If you look at the number of tests being done per million people in the US, the number of deaths could be higher. The ignorance of the real count might be a sort of bliss at the moment, but it isn't going to help us get back to normal. The reality is that you can't prove it wouldn't be higher any more than I can prove it would. And since nothing can be proven either way until more tests are done, it is stupid to go protesting a partial quarantine. No one is even under a full quarantine in this country. It is absolutely absurd.

Here is where you could look to find out how many tests have been done in each state along with drone footage of what looks to be a mass grave and people burying many people in plain pine boxes. The number of tests being done are incredibly low, but these people aren't protesting for a legitimate way to ensure that people are safe to return to work. They are basically only demonstrating a profound level of ignorance towards the reality that life is really this fragile. If no one has ever told you this, that is the truth. Life is fragile and a lot of people could die and things could get back to normal quicker if more people were tested rather than having more people get in their trucks and yell at healthcare workers that they should go to China if they want communism as though the implementation of quarantine has ever had anything to do with the ideological system of communism.

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

My employer (former employer?) asked me this morning if I’d be willing to go back to work before stay home orders are lifted with fever checks.. it was very hard to stop myself from laughing. I told them no, sorry, our numbers are still going up and neither I nor my clients parents are comfortable. Especially when I have no health insurance and before getting a guarantee they were going to provide me the clinical supervision I need to obtain my license to practice next year. So now they’re getting on all that. The rest of my coworkers aRe echoing the same message, except apparantly ONE who has agreed to do the temperature checks. Not sure what’s wrong with that girl.. wish I knew who it was. If we hold tight we are in a good bargaining position, and I’m grateful most of my coworkers have seemed to finally realize this.

 

[Lisa]

Life is fragile and a lot of people could die and things could get back to normal quicker if more people were tested rather than having more people get in their trucks and yell at healthcare workers that they should go to China if they want communism as though the implementation of quarantine has ever had anything to do with the ideological system of communism.

Life is not that fragile...people can endure a lot of things and recover from them.

Ya, we could test everyone in the world and find that people have the virus, because like I posted, everyone has everything in them already...their immune systems are working and they are healthy. That’s why people are coming up positive without symptoms. People dying from it have underlying conditions or are black..right? That right there makes no sense, unless you are looking at it from a political standpoint, which this virus is a political statement and nothing else.

People went with the lockdown to help out and because they didn’t really know what’s happening and believe things that the msm tells them. But now, that livelihoods are on the line..they want to get back to working and not ending up homeless getting a tent and a meal when they used to have a job and own a house. And ..really, who can blame them?

 

[Lisa]

My employer (former employer?) asked me this morning if I’d be willing to go back to work before stay home orders are lifted with fever checks.. it was very hard to stop myself from laughing. I told them no, sorry, our numbers are still going up and neither I nor my clients parents are comfortable. Especially when I have no health insurance and before getting a guarantee they were going to provide me the clinical supervision I need to obtain my license to practice next year. So now they’re getting on all that. The rest of my coworkers aRe echoing the same message, except apparantly ONE who has agreed to do the temperature checks. Not sure what’s wrong with that girl.. wish I knew who it was. If we hold tight we are in a good bargaining position, and I’m grateful most of my coworkers have seemed to finally realize this.

You’re one co-worker probably would like to be back to work and making money...can’t blame her.

 

[justjess]

You’re one co-worker probably would like to be back to work and making money...can’t blame her.

She’s making more on unemployment without risking her life or the life of her clients. Good bye

 

[Lisa]

She’s making more on unemployment without risking her life or the life of her clients. Good bye

Unemployment isn’t a lifestyle and isn’t meant to be sustainable.

 

[rainerann]

Life is not that fragile...people can endure a lot of things and recover from them.

You have lived a very sheltered life if you don't see how fragile life can be.

 

[justjess]

Unemployment isn’t a lifestyle and isn’t meant to be sustainable.

Unemployment is already temporary. No one said anything about making it permanent or prolonged. But there is also no rush to risk things when our states numbers are still climbing daily and no one at my company is currently losing income. Only the company is and the company should be taking better care of us if they want us to go back to work for their benefit.

It’s on them to make it worth it for us to go back, finally. “Workers market” - they have a wait list of clients that need services, a shortage of skilled workers in the area, and unemployment that’s paying us better then they are at the moment.

 

[VigCizMember]

This video pretty much covers it all in a clear manner with the concern to your internet privacy and it is worth a watch for the info.

Okay, back to another day of petty arguments from the same few people...

The only way to win against big data is to flood them with bad data...

They're only as powerful as their data. Therefore, we must provide random data. Humans can't be random - true. But we can create our own random machines. Words in a fishbowl. Pick words out of a dictionary. Run your own random generating software that runs random internet searches. Post random photos of random models online. Be as random as you can.

Swap cell phones with your friends.

YOU CAN BECOME INVISIBLE BENEATH FAKE DATA.

Of course they'll run algos that could parse out the randomness - the "noise" - well, that's when you get really creative...

Or better yet - use cash in all ways possible.

 

[Lisa]

You have lived a very sheltered life if you don't see how fragile life can be.

I don’t think so. I’ve read articles about babies falling out of windows and living. My husband had cancer and lived to tell the tale. His mom was dying of cancer and every time we thought she couldn’t make it another day..us and the drs..she rallied and lived another day. I remember one time that they really thought she only had hours but hours later she was up and eating. Life is like that though. The only reason people think life is fragile is because of our minds..we don’t think we can go on, but our bodies do.

My husband’s friend is an alcoholic and was into drugs..I didn’t really think he’d last this long, but he has. People continually amaze me how they can live through the most horrible of circumstances and keep going. I think of how hearing about aborted babies living through that experience, no life isn’t that fragile.

 

[Lisa]

Unemployment is already temporary. No one said anything about making it permanent or prolonged. But there is also no rush to risk things when our states numbers are still climbing daily and no one at my company is currently losing income. Only the company is and the company should be taking better care of us if they want us to go back to work for their benefit.

Unemployment is only granted if you are seeking employment..that says that you shouldn’t be on it long...yet people can’t get off it right now and make it without working...that doesn‘t say temporary to me.

Typical of the foolish...companies don’t last without money coming in.