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rainerann

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No that’s not what the Bible talks about. If we take the mark its a lot simpler than that...its choosing the satan over God...you will have a mark in your forehead or your right hand that has the name of the beast or the number of his name...666 in it. And people will be made to worship an image of the beast.

Revelation‬ ‭13:14-18‬ ‭
And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who *had the wound of the sword and has come to life. And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.​
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Maybe you should go back to reading the Bible instead of being freaked out over what people think they know about it?
it is so ridiculous that you say this as though you called god on the phone last night and got a confirmation that you know exactly how this would play out. Maybe you should slow down and read your Bible again. It is actually an interesting application of what it says because Revelation says that taking the mark can’t be reversed. The person who made this video is thinking that this creates the potential for something that can’t be reversed.

“And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

revelation 14:9-11.

I have thought that finding evidence of the mark required using this verse as evidence that the mark would demonstrate something that can’t be reversed too, and this would be how you would know it when you saw it.

I think when we are faced with new and sobering ethical considerations like this video presents, it is easy to find ways that they could be applicable to the concept of an apocalypse.

and your concept of this reality is the ridiculous one. Quite frankly, I have always believed that reading the Bible was intended to create the opportunity for increased wisdom and discernment in matters outside of the Bible. Not an isolated and forced ignorance of everything else that exists as part of gods creation the way you make it seem.
 

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it is so ridiculous that you say this as though you called god on the phone last night and got a confirmation that you know exactly how this would play out. Maybe you should slow down and read your Bible again. It is actually an interesting application of what it says because Revelation says that taking the mark can’t be reversed. The person who made this video is thinking that this creates the potential for something that can’t be reversed.

“And another angel, a third, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.”

revelation 13:9-11.

I think when we are faced with new and sobering ethical considerations like this video presents, it is easy to find ways that they could be applicable to the concept of an apocalypse.

and your concept of this reality is the ridiculous one. Quite frankly, I have always believed that reading the Bible was intended to create the opportunity for increased wisdom and discernment in matters outside of the Bible. Not an isolated and forced ignorance of everything else that exists as part of gods creation the way you make it seem.
The person who made the video is thinking from a human perspective...why can’t the mark be reversed...have we done something from what we create that can block God? And the answer is no...we can only block God by an act of will. He’s not going to go around what we decide...He will try to convince people otherwise since he doesn’t want anyone to perish..but He will honor your choice..regarding if you choose to be saved or not.

When in actuality the mark can’t be reversed because you made your choice..you decided against God and for evil, for the devil. Its the ultimate choice.

When one reads the Bible we get God’s perspective and truth. One has to line up with the Bible, not take the Bible to line up with what one thinks could possibly happen. If someone is saying that the mark will happen in any other way than was written down, then they are wrong, no matter how much we might think it could happen In the way we imagine...and this is what the Bible says will happen..

Revelation‬ ‭13:14-18‬ ‭
And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
The mark is about the beast and worship...not about anything else.
 

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The person who made the video is thinking from a human perspective...why can’t the mark be reversed...have we done something from what we create that can block God? And the answer is no...we can only block God by an act of will. He’s not going to go around what we decide...He will try to convince people otherwise since he doesn’t want anyone to perish..but He will honor your choice..regarding if you choose to be saved or not.

When in actuality the mark can’t be reversed because you made your choice..you decided against God and for evil, for the devil. Its the ultimate choice.

When one reads the Bible we get God’s perspective and truth. One has to line up with the Bible, not take the Bible to line up with what one thinks could possibly happen. If someone is saying that the mark will happen in any other way than was written down, then they are wrong, no matter how much we might think it could happen In the way we imagine...and this is what the Bible says will happen..

Revelation‬ ‭13:14-18‬ ‭
And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed. And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.
The mark is about the beast and worship...not about anything else.
I think you are thinking from a human perspective. You’re acting like the fulfillment of revelation is going to look something like a reverse altar call where the antichrist stands on a stage and has people come up to accept the mark knowing what it is.

This is because you are a very judgmental person who looks down on people and seems to think people want to go down a road that may not lead to a good outcome. On the other hand, some people consider that there is some degree of deception involved in taking the mark, which would mean that something described in the video would make sense.

in either case, neither can be proven so debating prophecy as though you were presenting fact is ridiculous.

I left my take on prophecy in my signature anyway. I think the fulfillment of any sort of apocalypse is based on a defeated state of mind similar to when Joshua and Caleb said that the people were not too big to overtake, but everyone else said they were.

However, I can still see where this person is coming from in this case.
 

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I think you are thinking from a human perspective. You’re acting like the fulfillment of revelation is going to look something like a reverse altar call where the antichrist stands on a stage and has people come up to accept the mark knowing what it is.

This is because you are a very judgmental person who looks down on people and seems to think people want to go down a road that may not lead to a good outcome. On the other hand, some people consider that there is some degree of deception involved in taking the mark, which would mean that something described in the video would make sense.

in either case, neither can be proven so debating prophecy as though you were presenting fact is ridiculous.

I left my take on prophecy in my signature anyway. I think the fulfillment of any sort of apocalypse is based on a defeated state of mind similar to when Joshua and Caleb said that the people were not too big to overtake, but everyone else said they were.

However, I can still see where this person is coming from in this case.
I guess it depends if you think these angels are going to be actually seen when they speak or not...especially the last one...God warns people not to take the mark.

Revelation‬ ‭14:6-11‬ ‭
And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, having an eternal gospel to preach to those who live on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people; and he said with a loud voice, “Fear God, and give Him glory, because the hour of His judgment has come; worship Him who made the heaven and the earth and sea and springs of waters.”

And another angel, a second one, followed, saying, “Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great, she who has made all the nations drink of the wine of the passion of her immorality.”

Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”​
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He also sends Christians to warn people not to take the mark.

People go down roads that don’t lead to a good outcome all the time...abortion comes off the top of my head..having another drink, consuming drugs or even a puff on that cigarette. Those were personal bad choices..however this mark will be a choice given to everyone in the world, and to sweeten the pot, you won’t be able to buy or sell which honestly I think is incentive enough on its own and doesn’t need to be sold with anything else. Perhaps people just can’t get their minds around that that is all the antichrist will need to do?

I am presenting fact...I’ve given Bible verses that talk about prophecy from the Bible..Vixy presented someones opinion.

Ya, people will be defeated...they can’t rise up against the antichrist..
Revelation‬ ‭13:4‬ ‭
They worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?”​
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How y'all feeling? It's moving FAST now, wikileaks releasing files, pentagon releasing alien stuff and the RFID being patented and pushed like never before. Hope you arent panicking?
 

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God Shall Pierce Leviathan, The Coiled Serpent…Isaiah apocalypse pt 8

Posted on May 2, 2020by billrandles

In that day the Lord will punish Leviathan the fleeing serpent,
With His fierce and great and mighty sword,
Even Leviathan the twisted serpent;
And He will kill the dragon who lives in the sea. ( Isaiah 27:1)
Isaiah’s Apocalypse ends in the destruction of Leviathan, the coiled or twisting Serpent.The LORD himself will slay Him with the “great and mighty Sword”.
Who is Leviathan? In this passage we are told He lives in the Sea, and that He is a coiled, or undulating Serpent. In that description we hear an echo of the beast in Revelation 13.
And the dragon stood on the sand of the seashore.Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads, and on his horns were ten diadems, and on his heads were blasphemous names. ( Revelation 13:1)
Interestingly, Leviathan is mentioned five times in the Bible.
Yet God is my king from of old,
Who works deeds of deliverance in the midst of the earth.
You divided the sea by Your strength;
You broke the heads of the sea monsters in the waters.
You crushed the heads of Leviathan;( Psalm 74:14)
In this Psalm, which commemorates the mighty works of God in the past, The Psalmist celebrates the breaking of the heads of Leviathan, after he recounted the Dividing of the Sea by the power of God. Leviathan is obviously a reference to Egypt, the SuperPower at that time in history. Only God can divide the seas, and Only God can crush Leviathan.

Leviathan is first mention in the third chapter of Job. That chapter is perhaps the darkest study of human grieving and sorrow in all of scripture. It is so dark, one could almost say it is near Nihilistic. Job is extensively cursing the very day he was born;
And Job spake, and said,
Let the day perish wherein I was born, and the night in which it was said, There is a man child conceived. Let that day be darkness; let not God regard it from above, neither let the light shine upon it. Let darkness and the shadow of death stain it; let a cloud dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it. As for that night, let darkness seize upon it; let it not be joined unto the days of the year, let it not come into the number of the months. Lo, let that night be solitary, let no joyful voice come therein. Let them curse it that curse the day, who are ready to raise up their mourning.
Leviathan is the actual word translated “Mourning” in vs 7. Those who are ready to “raise their Leviathan”. How fitting as you will see, that the Bible says Leviathan is raised up as a response to nihilism, and a despondent, godless mood in humanity. Where there is no faith in God, there is only faith in the State.
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Job also mentions Leviathan, in fact, He does so in some depth.
Can you draw out Leviathan with a fishhook?
Or press down his tongue with a cord?
Can you put a rope in his nose
Or pierce his jaw with a hook?
Will he make many supplications to you,
Or will he speak to you soft words?
“Will he make a covenant with you?
Will you take him for a servant forever?
“Will you play with him as with a bird,
Or will you bind him for your maidens?
“Will the traders bargain over him?
Will they divide him among the merchants?
“Can you fill his skin with harpoons,
Or his head with fishing spears?
“Lay your hand on him;
Remember the battle; you will not do it again!
“Behold, your expectation is false;
Will you be laid low even at the sight of him?
“No one is so fierce that he dares to arouse him;
Who then is he that can stand before Me?
“Who has given to Me that I should repay him?
Whatever is under the whole heaven is Mine.( Job 41:1-10)
This is the part of the book of Job, where God asks Job a series of questions, designed to show him how utterly disqualified He is to ever call any of God’s ways into question! The questions asked of Job, cover the whole gamut of science, as the Creator asks Job if He knows the paths in the Sea, and could he make his voice travel on Light (electricity), or does He know where the Storehouse of Snow is? Job can only sit there dumbfounded.
Then the LORD brings up Leviathan. Whatever Leviathan is, he is huge, wild, fierce and untameable . The mere sight of him is terrifying, and by the description, it seems as though God was describing some kind of a Dinosaur. Job knew what the beast was, and understood how utterly over his head these questions asked of him were.
Can you fish Him out of the waters with a hook ? Could you ring his nose and put a rope through it to lead him around? Would you put him on a leash and let your daughters play with him? Job if you so much as touch him, to do him harm, you will never forget it! But the implied response of the LORD is, “I can”. God alone can deal with Leviathan, whoever he is.
Could there be a parallel meaning to the term Leviathan?
I do not believe Jesus Christ is coming back to fight a literal reptile which is oppressing Israel. Does Job 41 have anything to say to us today?
I think so. I believe that when you combine the passage in Job, Isaiah , and the Psalms, with the book of Revelation 13, the meaning of Leviathan is plain to see.
Egypt was a Leviathan, that oppressed God’s people, and there was no one on earth who could have broken her heads, only God could do so. Rome and Babylon in turn were also Leviathans, as was the Assyrian Empire Isaiah warned Judah about.
A Leviathan is a superstate. The final superstate is forming before our very eyes, and is fierce, heartless, musclebound, and has technology which is almost “godlike” in human estimation. Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war on it?
The Superstate seems to know everything. It can “listen”to every phone conversation in the world, through its use of Algorithyms, it can zero in on any person or subject of Interest. Through technology privacy is a thing of the past.
The Beast rises from the sea, for in the Bible, the sea is a metaphor for the restless, turbulent humanity which is defiant of the only true God. “The wicked are like the raging of the Sea… there is no peace saith my God, for the wicked” .
The beast has layer after layer of Armor, no human being can stop it, or even touch it.I have heard a former NSA employee speak of the “Deep State” as having two hundred layers of depth of agencies, bureaucracies, interests, un-elected employees to ensure it’s AntiChrist agenda no matter who the people elect for President or any other office.
There is a soulless, antiChrist super state arising before our very eyes, which has learned the lessons of the Past, (Hitler, Stalin, Mao), and is armed with a superior technology which will enable it to seek control of the thoughts and deeds of everyone in the world.
It is so huge, complex and fierce, only God himself will be able to disable and destroy it.
This Superstate is proud. Those who serve it’s interests are “the Kings of the Earth and their Rulers” , the elite. They have taken their council together against the LORD and His Messiah, which is why they increasingly reveal themselves to be for everything God is against;Abortion, Homosexuality, Sexual anarchy and Perversion, elimination of private property, False Religion, in short, they are infused with the AntiChrist Spirit.
Job said this in closing, of Leviathan,
Nothing on earth is like him,
One made without fear.
He looks on everything that is high;
He is king over all the sons of pride.”
( Job 41:33-34)
This mighty Superstate is called the Beast in the book of Revelation. The Prophet Daniel called him, ” A Beast, Dreadful, unlike all the rest…”( Daniel 7) . This beast comes up out of the Sea (of turbulent humanity in it’s restless energy), to oppose and openly resist God. There will not be any human coalition or nations that will be able to stop this last beast, as we once did Hitler and Tojo.
The LORD shall come and destroy Leviathan with the very Sword of His mouth and in the Brightness of Hos coming.
 

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Another rumor of war...

It could be war: Classified Chinese report warns Beijing it faces Tiananmen-like global backlash over coronavirus that could lead to 'armed confrontation' with the US
 

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Funvax. Afterwards you get a certification of having been vaccinated and that would be the RFID-chip ergo the mark of the beast.

The bible says those who has taken this mark cannot be helped and I believe it's because it shuts of the part of the brain in which we are connected to God, thus we no longer have a free will to love and worship/Obey him, thus we are lost and he cannot help us.
 

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Funvax. Afterwards you get a certification of having been vaccinated and that would be the RFID-chip ergo the mark of the beast.

The bible says those who has taken this mark cannot be helped and I believe it's because it shuts of the part of the brain in which we are connected to God, thus we no longer have a free will to love and worship/Obey him, thus we are lost and he cannot help us.
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I find it really sad that with all the stuff going on right now, the signs of the times, you look in the religion section and theres not one thread on Islam and these times, or what someone can do in these times, or any guidance on these times. I feel sorry for this. Its like a silent partner it has nothing to say on the importance of whats happening in the world.
 
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I find it really sad that with all the stuff going on right now, the signs of the times, you look in the religion section and theres not one thread on Islam and these times, or what someone can do in these times, or any guidance on these times. I feel sorry for this. Its like a silent partner it has nothing to say on the importance of whats happening in the world.
No, we're practical and help those in need, while you sit around twiddling your thumbs praying for the worst.

Christianity's trigger-happy history is very well-known: https://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm

Nobody denies that the world is going through changes (likely negative ones) through the 'help' of this virus, nobody denies this. Whether it's the 'end times' or not, is a different topic.
 

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Damn is that all you have to say, thought you would have something on the end times guess not, guess, you better look out for that camel someones going to buy.
Yeah, block that guy, hes crazy. I blocked him a long time ago.

The lethargy was expected in here because of 2 Timothy 3 and that "There will be a great falling away" People have lost their faith. God doesnt exist for the common man and the devil runs the show. It is said that those who choose evil cannot hear the words of God, they can only hear the devil so to them, it's dead silence.

The corona thing was an attempt to depopulate and it has failed so far due to the protection of the holy ghost. When God lifts that protection of us all, mayhem will set in. It will be the worst time mankind has ever seen. The kabal are VERY frustrated it hasnt worked. I advice you to watch www.plandemicmovie.com. Fauci has millions of lives on his head (he lacks a conscience so..They're all psychopaths or they coulddnt kill so many of without a flinch) and Mikovitz, the viral resercher who deep dived into HIV in the 80's and also helped with solving the ME-puzzle (thinking of the Rituximab trial) caught him and had her life and career destroyed for it. I believe Mikovitz since she has done great things for the ME-community.

Seen this?



I believe this is very possible since both Gates and Benjamin Netanyahu wanted the chip in last week and the week that just passed.


 
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When did the 3rd seal open?

Revelation‬ ‭6:5-6‬ ‭
When He broke the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, “Come.” I looked, and behold, a black horse; and he who sat on it had a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard something like a voice in the center of the four living creatures saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius; and do not damage the oil and the wine.”​
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Four Horsemen are ACTIVE’ Bible scholars claim Book of Revelation seals broken
 
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