Coronavirus

[Lisa]

How many low income earners CAN work from home Lisa? Why don’t you just stop trying to talk about situations that you are apparantly ignorant about and also unwilling to actually learn?

It is a fact that anyone who could work from home was encouraged to work from home. It is also a fact that the government closed down businesses that they deemed unimportant yet other businesses stayed open. That affected a range of people and still affects them.

 

[Claire Rousseau]

Coronavirus is not as deadly as people are told.

The media has been blowing this out of proportion since it began.

If you want to remain healthy, take 5,000 IUs of Vitamin D3 daily, some Zinc Sulfate, Vitamin C, and STOP STRESSING!

Stress alone will make you ill, and it solves nothing.

This is just a ploy to get us to accept forced, mass vaccination.

Do not buy into it!

 

[justjess]

It is a fact that anyone who could work from home was encouraged to work from home. It is also a fact that the government closed down businesses that they deemed unimportant yet other businesses stayed open. That affected a range of people and still affects them.

That wasn’t the question was it Lisa?

Who are the people who are able to work from home Lisa? What proportion of low income and minority workers are able to work from home Lisa?
I provided you the stats. No need to search for them.

Now tell me why the infection and death rates are higher in low income and minority communities?

And tell me how you rushing off people in public facing jobs (because everyone who can work from home already is, like you said) won’t amount to a class genocide if it’s done prematurely?

 

[Lisa]

That wasn’t the question was it Lisa?

Who are the people who are able to work from home Lisa? What proportion of low income and minority workers are able to work from home Lisa?
I provided you the stats. No need to search for them.

Now tell me why the infection and death rates are higher in low income and minority communities?

And tell me how you rushing off people in public facing jobs (because everyone who can work from home already is, like you said) won’t amount to a class genocide if it’s done prematurely?

You provided me with a biased link...and I did answer your question...those who could work from home are working from home..and those that can’t aren’t. I don’t believe that those who couldn’t are just the poor or non whites..no matter what you seem to think.

 

[DavidSon]

Aftermath: A Coming Mega-Depression

"...We have enormous spiritual powers within us which we can mobilize to stem against the propaganda stream. In fact, the reason we are exposed to this type of ferocious propaganda, is precisely because the masters know about that strength of the human mind. And the way to immobilize it is through fear. That’s what’s happening.

The longer this pathetic and oppressive Martial Law situation lasts (yes, in many countries, even Europe, Martial Law has become the state of the affair), the more this inner power and conviction of Self, of us, Sovereign Selves that we are, will resurface in humanity and displace the fear – to become a force to stand up against the evil forces, stand up for justice and for human equality, for human dignity – and ultimately for solidarity and love.
Love is what makes us overcome this diabolical plan.

That is the scenario of hope and love. Endless hope is hoping and creating to the end, then the end will never come. And as we hope and create endlessly, avoiding conflict, we see the light emerging from the dark – a harmonious flow of peaceful creation."

 

[illuminatimess]

If there’s contempt it’s for the articles that try to get the poor and people of color to feel victimized their whole lives.

They don’t feel victimized, they ARE victimized.

 

[vancityeagle]

something else for people to consider

this operation clearly has multiple agendas, but one I haven't seen people talk about is this

This Covid-19 "crisis" would be the perfect scapegoat for a worldwide economic recession THAT WAS SLATED TO HAPPEN BEFORE ALL OF THIS TOOK PLACE

Bush Juniors tax breaks for the billionaires and the neoliberal policies in place for decades lead to the 2008 global recession.

It has long been speculated that due to Trump's stax breaks that we would soon witness another recession at a much bigger level, and that they could only artificially prop it up for so long.

This "crisis" could be a way out for the Trump administration to excuse their causing of another recession, and blame it on the Covid/China.

I think this another one of many agendas behind all of this.

 

[Lisa]

They don’t feel victimized, they ARE victimized.

Sometimes an attitude change works wonders.

 

[Lisa]

something else for people to consider

this operation clearly has multiple agendas, but one I haven't seen people talk about is this

This Covid-19 "crisis" would be the perfect scapegoat for a worldwide economic recession THAT WAS SLATED TO HAPPEN BEFORE ALL OF THIS TOOK PLACE

Bush Juniors tax breaks for the billionaires and the neoliberal policies in place for decades lead to the 2008 global recession.

It has long been speculated that due to Trump's stax breaks that we would soon witness another recession at a much bigger level, and that they could only artificially prop it up for so long.

This "crisis" could be a way out for the Trump administration to excuse their causing of another recession, and blame it on the Covid/China.

I think this another one of many agendas behind all of this.

Why would he want to do it in an election year? He couldn’t know that the virus would be a factor this year could he? It makes more sense that this virus panic show is in relation to the upcoming presidential election..trying to bury trump under a crisis. So far it hasn’t worked but they still went with Biden...haha!

 

[The Zone]

something else for people to consider

this operation clearly has multiple agendas, but one I haven't seen people talk about is this

This Covid-19 "crisis" would be the perfect scapegoat for a worldwide economic recession THAT WAS SLATED TO HAPPEN BEFORE ALL OF THIS TOOK PLACE

Bush Juniors tax breaks for the billionaires and the neoliberal policies in place for decades lead to the 2008 global recession.

It has long been speculated that due to Trump's stax breaks that we would soon witness another recession at a much bigger level, and that they could only artificially prop it up for so long.

This "crisis" could be a way out for the Trump administration to excuse their causing of another recession, and blame it on the Covid/China.

I think this another one of many agendas behind all of this.

I hate to break this to you, but I spoke of this as did others extensively early in the thread. The world economy has been propped up on paper stilts and this is an excuse for a worldwide collapse where leaders cannot be blamed.

But when you turn it political, there goes objectivity for you are giving power to a man again when this is about several men pulling the strings. You are thinking in terms of US instead of the world with the economy. And it is as if you do not realize the federal reserve has power over your scapegoat in Trump. When will you realize politics do not matter that much in the big picture? I do not understand why it is so important to push a narrative that is not really that plausible and has more holes than swiss cheese. The evil in this world is not just in the US or with Trump. Surely you have seen all the movements in similarity in other countries. But we do get out there in here at times, so all is fair game.

 

[justjess]

You provided me with a biased link...and I did answer your question...those who could work from home are working from home..and those that can’t aren’t. I don’t believe that those who couldn’t are just the poor or non whites..no matter what you seem to think.

Explain to me what basis you are using to call statistics - which are pretty objective by definition bias?

Your right those that can work from home are and those who can’t arent - they are either still working or unemployed atm. Considering the only people who are currently unemployed are those who can’t work from home (by your own admission) - and we KNOW the majority of those are the poor and minorities (because they are disproportionately among the poor)... tell me again who is the lifeblood of this economy? Because the wealthy and upper middle are still working - from HOME, as you said.

The economy collapsed like a pile of bricks when poor folk went home Lisa. You want to send them back out - risk death - most likely prematurely, to kick start an economy that mostly benefits the people who won’t be asked to go back and risk themselves in the same manner

 

[vancityeagle]

I hate to break this to you, but I spoke of this as did others extensively early in the thread. The world economy has been propped up on paper stilts and this is an excuse for a worldwide collapse where leaders cannot be blamed.

But when you turn it political, there goes objectivity for you are giving power to a man again when this is about several men pulling the strings. You are thinking in terms of US instead of the world with the economy. And it is as if you do not realize the federal reserve has power over your scapegoat in Trump. When will you realize politics do not matter that much in the big picture? I do not understand why it is so important to push a narrative that is not really that plausible and has more holes than swiss cheese. The evil in this world is not just in the US or with Trump. Surely you have seen all the movements in similarity in other countries. But we do get out there in here at times, so all is fair game.

yeah it might have been your post I saw a while ago. I'm looking at many different sources of information so I can't remember where I saw what.

I agree its a worldwide agenda and not limited to the US, but you cannot ignore the fact that Trump just like Bush Jr exacerbated the degree of the recession with their economic policies.

Trump, Bush, and the rest of the politicians are all controlled by networks of billionaire oligarchs, intelligence operatives (both private and public), organized crime syndicates, and policy think tanks.

The network behind Trump has always advocated for tax breaks and so called "Reaganomics"

the economic network running the Trump economy is called the Mont Pellerin Society. They have been behind the Neoliberal push which started in the 80's with Reagan and Thatcher implementing the agenda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Pelerin_Society

former treasurer of Mont Pelerin is a man named Ed Feulner who is also a member of the Council for National Policy, the Heritage Foundation, was a part of Trump's transition team, as well as an economic advisor.

Feulner was responsible for stocking Trump's cabinet with Heritage Foundation members in effect steering the economic agenda. Heritage along with other right wing think tanks like CNP operate under the economic model of the Mont Pelerin Society and shape the economic order.

Before you start with the "anti-US' thing , Mont Pelerin is an international organization.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/magazine/trump-government-heritage-foundation-think-tank.html

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/heritage-foundation-takes-risk-and-wins-big-with-trump

 

[A Freeman]

The following is from Robert F. Kennedy Jr., regarding Bill Gates and his push to have billions vaccinated.

See: https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2020/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-responds-to-bill-gates-statements-on-a-looming-mandatory-vaccine-3720090.html

and http://instagr.am/p/B-s-9ZjH0YP/
Vaccines, for Bill Gates, are a strategic philanthropy that feed his many vaccine-related businesses (including Microsoft’s ambition to control a global vac ID enterprise) and give him dictatorial control over global health policy—the spear tip of corporate neo-imperialism.

Gates’ obsession with vaccines seems fueled by a messianic conviction that he is ordained to save the world with technology and a god-like willingness to experiment with the lives of lesser humans.

Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously.

In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines.

In 2014, the Gates Foundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces. Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders. Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls. The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court.

In 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a trial of a GSK’s experimental malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizure, and febrile convulsions to 1,048 of the 5,049 children. …

 

[Lisa]

Explain to me what basis you are using to call statistics - which are pretty objective by definition bias?

Your right those that can work from home are and those who can’t arent - they are either still working or unemployed atm. Considering the only people who are currently unemployed are those who can’t work from home (by your own admission) - and we KNOW the majority of those are the poor and minorities (because they are disproportionately among the poor)... tell me again who is the lifeblood of this economy? Because the wealthy and upper middle are still working - from HOME, as you said.

The economy collapsed like a pile of bricks when poor folk went home Lisa. You want to send them back out - risk death - most likely prematurely, to kick start an economy that mostly benefits the people who won’t be asked to go back and risk themselves in the same manner

Anyone can come up with statistics...that’s why they’re so diverse.

Some people can‘t work from home. My husband currently has staff that can work on computers working from home..yet he also has staff that works on large equipment that can’t be moved to someones home, so they have to come in and work. So, not everyone who can’t stay at home are out of a job. Some people are still going to work. People working on big machinery could also be the poor and minorities or maybe you are some other ethnicity or even...gasp...white? I guess it would all depend on the job you do and if you are part of the supply chain. Many people in the supply chain are in different types of businesses which I don’t think can be easily qualified as to just being poor or minority.

The lifeblood of the economy is businesses...without business you don’t have jobs and without businesses you have nothing to buy. Seems pretty simple to me.

I want them to go back to work so they don’t become poorer or homeless...common sense. Doubtful that they are gonna die from this..most people survive.

 

[Haich]

Of course it is... I’m surprised the poor and people of color make it at all in life. Yet they

Yes, thank you for your concern. As a person of colour, I am also very amazed at how I 'made it' in life (!)

 

[Lisa]

Yes, thank you for your concern. As a person of colour, I am also very amazed at how I 'made it' in life (!)

You cut off the rest of my quote...I said yet they do. I think you should be talking to Jess who just wants to victimize people of color and the poor.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

The following is from Robert F. Kennedy Jr., regarding Bill Gates and his push to have billions vaccinated.

See: https://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2020/04/robert-f-kennedy-jr-responds-to-bill-gates-statements-on-a-looming-mandatory-vaccine-3720090.html

and http://instagr.am/p/B-s-9ZjH0YP/
Vaccines, for Bill Gates, are a strategic philanthropy that feed his many vaccine-related businesses (including Microsoft’s ambition to control a global vac ID enterprise) and give him dictatorial control over global health policy—the spear tip of corporate neo-imperialism.

Gates’ obsession with vaccines seems fueled by a messianic conviction that he is ordained to save the world with technology and a god-like willingness to experiment with the lives of lesser humans.

Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously.

In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program. The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines.

In 2014, the Gates Foundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces. Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders. Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls. The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court.

In 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a trial of a GSK’s experimental malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizure, and febrile convulsions to 1,048 of the 5,049 children. …

@VigCizMember posted this a few pages ago here, but I think it's worth repeating.

 

[Haich]

You cut off the rest of my quote...I said yet they do. I think you should be talking to Jess who just wants to victimize people of color and the poor.

Why do you always talk to me about Jess? If I have something to say about her links, I'll quote her post.

I didn't cut it off, I just quoted the part where you said you were surprised poor people and people of colour made it.

 

[A Freeman]

@VigCizMember posted this a few pages ago here, but I think it's worth repeating.

Thank-you.

 

[Aero]

I don’t mind paying for my own bailout. I do mind paying for corporate bailout. And at this point it appears WE aren’t going to be bailed out very much but will be on the financial hook for both.

I mind. I say let the banks pay for it all.

Of course the banks paying for it might be happening. We will see how the whole small business relief package works out.