Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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I don't have secret camera to track them behind closed doors, but some time we don't need that
like they say, eyes are the window to the soul..some of what appears in public can tell whats happen behind closed doors
Has this guy not done a lot of wrong stuff? Might that not be the reason he’s looking so bad?
 

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Has this guy not done a lot of wrong stuff? Might that not be the reason he’s looking so bad?
Ummm... I am sorry because English is not my native and I can misunderstand with your reply... But???
(((Has this guy not done a lot of wrong stuff?)))
It makes me trigger. I know that it can happen misunderstanding but for him... He has scandal about "Burning Sun"... Someone who has scandal or problem usually appeared "Bad"... I often see someone who caught by scandal looked like so bad... You ought have known his scandal with "Burning Sun"... It's so big problem in Korea. I live in Indonesia and there is an Indonesian actress who was investigated because she was friend with him... So I think he is a scandalous person...
 

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Ummm... I am sorry because English is not my native and I can misunderstand with your reply... But???
(((Has this guy not done a lot of wrong stuff?)))
It makes me trigger. I know that it can happen misunderstanding but for him... He has scandal about "Burning Sun"... Someone who has scandal or problem usually appeared "Bad"... I often see someone who caught by scandal looked like so bad... You ought have known his scandal with "Burning Sun"... It's so big problem in Korea. I live in Indonesia and there is an Indonesian actress who was investigated because she was friend with him... So I think he is a scandalous person...
Yes. That’s exactly what I am saying.
 
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I am shocked to find it out that my country are supposedly super religious and conservative adding comments supporting Chen having child before marriage(adultery), and the ironic thing is Koreans are against it, which really surprises me(they are not even as close as 1% of being religious and conservative as mine)

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Korean finally have much more common sense than the international fans lol...and its weird just because its Kpop, fans start accepting many things that are not acceptable in there cultures and community

The agenda of accepting adultery are working with them
 

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you are totally useless in this thread and adding nothing...and keep commenting stupid thing over our post..leave this thread
What? I’m telling the poster who appears to have misunderstood me that I agree that the reason he looks in such poor condition could be explained by the fact that he has been involved in something scandalous because he did something wrong. It has affected his health and how he looks after himself - but after what he did I don’t feel any real sympathy for him.
I am not making excuses for him. I’m acknowledging what he did wrong and yet you’re still being rude? What is wrong with you?
 

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I am shocked to find it out that my country are supposedly super religious and conservative adding comments supporting Chen having child before marriage(adultery), and the ironic thing is Koreans are against it, which really surprises me(they are not even as close as 1% of being religious and conservative as mine)

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Korean finally have much more common sense than the international fans lol...and its weird just because its Kpop, fans start accepting many things that are not acceptable in there cultures and community

The agenda of accepting adultery are working with them
Let's see if it's Baek or Suho so they will die forever... No more EXO again (・o・)

Btw I found something in Twitter...

It's said that "Bridge to Empty Mind" and RV's album is "PSYCHO". It's almost connected cause "PSYCHO" is a mental problem and the bridge is about "Emptiness Mind"... Mental and mind is connected obviously... Whatcha think?
 

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I am shocked to find it out that my country are supposedly super religious and conservative adding comments supporting Chen having child before marriage(adultery), and the ironic thing is Koreans are against it, which really surprises me(they are not even as close as 1% of being religious and conservative as mine)

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Korean finally have much more common sense than the international fans lol...and its weird just because its Kpop, fans start accepting many things that are not acceptable in there cultures and community

The agenda of accepting adultery are working with them
Are you saying that having sex outside of marriage is adultery because it isn’t. Adultery is having relations with another person when you are married.
Okay, he got his girlfriend pregnant, which I understand is frowned upon in certain cultures. However, what age is he? 27? In most cultures many men and women are married and choosing to have children by that. I got married when I was 24. My husband was 26. I didn’t have my first child until I was 28 but that’s considered quite long for many couples.
I think it’s better for babies to be born inside marriage but not everyone agrees with that.
I think it’s not unreasonable to think that at the age of 27 this guy was dating a girl and it seems natural at that age that he might have been having a sexual relationship with her. If he wasn’t in Exo or didn’t have his military service to do so, he may have already been married to her by this stage.
They made a mistake and she is pregnant. That was a bit stupid but it’s not the end of the world. Sometimes contraception fails. It’s a little baby nevertheless and babies are always a blessing.
They have chosen to stay together as a couple. They have chosen to face up to the responsibility of what has happened. They are being truthful and honest with fans. Stop hating and accept it. Presumably they are both adults. This is their decision. They deserve love and support and not hate. Anyone can make a mistake. He’s 27; not 16! He didn’t owe any anyone an explanation and the fact he was worried about fans’ reactions is so sad.
Why can you not just accept that they are adults who can make their own choices. You may not agree with sex outside of marriage. Frankly though, it’s none of your business. I don’t really agree with sex outside of marriage but it’s perfectly natural for someone of his age who is in a relationship to do so - if he doesn’t practice a religious faith which forbids it then what’s the problem?
 

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Are you saying that having sex outside of marriage is adultery because it isn’t. Adultery is having relations with another person when you are married.
Okay, he got his girlfriend pregnant, which I understand is frowned upon in certain cultures. However, what age is he? 27? In most cultures many men and women are married and choosing to have children by that. I got married when I was 24. My husband was 26. I didn’t have my first child until I was 28 but that’s considered quite long for many couples.
I think it’s better for babies to be born inside marriage but not everyone agrees with that.
I think it’s not unreasonable to think that at the age of 27 this guy was dating a girl and it seems natural at that age that he might have been having a sexual relationship with her. If he wasn’t in Exo or didn’t have his military service to do so, he may have already been married to her by this stage.
They made a mistake and she is pregnant. That was a bit stupid but it’s not the end of the world. Sometimes contraception fails. It’s a little baby nevertheless and babies are always a blessing.
They have chosen to stay together as a couple. They have chosen to face up to the responsibility of what has happened. They are being truthful and honest with fans. Stop hating and accept it. Presumably they are both adults. This is their decision. They deserve love and support and not hate. Anyone can make a mistake. He’s 27; not 16! He didn’t owe any anyone an explanation and the fact he was worried about fans’ reactions is so sad.
Why can you not just accept that they are adults who can make their own choices. You may not agree with sex outside of marriage. Frankly though, it’s none of your business. I don’t really agree with sex outside of marriage but it’s perfectly natural for someone of his age who is in a relationship to do so - if he doesn’t practice a religious faith which forbids it then what’s the problem?
What @SHinEeHeaven thinks is... Why Koreans don't accept that and even bully that??? It's Korean and Korea is a country where KPop was born... Koreans actually should support that couple meanwhile they hate his decision... Meanwhile, outside Korea or international fans are supporting JONGDAE with his decision. Like it's so much okay if JONGDAE did se* before got married. @SHinEeHeaven doesn't mean to hate his marriage, but she means "Why he did se* before got married?". I think her opinion is like that :)
 

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Let's see if it's Baek or Suho so they will die forever... No more EXO again (・o・)

Btw I found something in Twitter...

It's said that "Bridge to Empty Mind" and RV's album is "PSYCHO". It's almost connected cause "PSYCHO" is a mental problem and the bridge is about "Emptiness Mind"... Mental and mind is connected obviously... Whatcha think?
The term psycho is used in several different ways. It refers to the mental state known as “psychosis” which really means that people have an altered perception of what is going on around them. It can also refer to the term psychopath which refers to a particular type of personality disorder where individuals have little understanding of how other people feel and can’t tell the difference between right and wrong. Psychosis and Psychopathy are quite different from each other.
The term psycho as I understand Red Velvet to use it, is a slang term to describe some who is a bit mentally unstable and doing things which are out of character. The relationship they are having in the song has turned them into a psycho because of how they feel for each other.
Their mind in the song “psycho” is not empty - it is filled with all kinds of irrational thoughts. That’s typical of being psychotic.
I suppose bridge to empty mind could be connected. You have to remember that sometimes the meaning of things can be lost in translation. It could mean bridge to a peaceful mind. If you relate that to the song Psycho it could mean that getting out of the relationship might give you a more peaceful mind. I don’t know that’s just my interpretation.
 

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What @SHinEeHeaven thinks is... Why Koreans don't accept that and even bully that??? It's Korean and Korea is a country where KPop was born... Koreans actually should support that couple meanwhile they hate his decision... Meanwhile, outside Korea or international fans are supporting JONGDAE with his decision. Like it's so much okay if JONGDAE did se* before got married. @SHinEeHeaven doesn't mean to hate his marriage, but she means "Why he did se* before got married?". I think her opinion is like that :)
Maybe. I know that sex outside of marriage is frowned upon in a lot of cultures. It is in Christianity too. However, realistically I think it’s not unusual that this is the kind of relationship a 27 yr old is having. It’s perfectly natural for a couple of that age to want to have that type of relationship. However, in South Korean culture people tend not to marry until later maybe partly because they have to do military service. Also, being an idol, fans don’t really seem to like them having relationships. This makes it hard for them to have a girlfriend or marry while they are in a group.
If fans didn’t put that expectation on them, they could be more open or even get married younger.
We really have to understand that if someone doesn’t share our religious or cultural viewpoint, then having a sexual relationship before marriage isn’t such a big thing.
Thank you for explaining.
 
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Are you saying that having sex outside of marriage is adultery because it isn’t. Adultery is having relations with another person when you are married.
Okay, he got his girlfriend pregnant, which I understand is frowned upon in certain cultures. However, what age is he? 27? In most cultures many men and women are married and choosing to have children by that. I got married when I was 24. My husband was 26. I didn’t have my first child until I was 28 but that’s considered quite long for many couples.
I think it’s better for babies to be born inside marriage but not everyone agrees with that.
I think it’s not unreasonable to think that at the age of 27 this guy was dating a girl and it seems natural at that age that he might have been having a sexual relationship with her. If he wasn’t in Exo or didn’t have his military service to do so, he may have already been married to her by this stage.
They made a mistake and she is pregnant. That was a bit stupid but it’s not the end of the world. Sometimes contraception fails. It’s a little baby nevertheless and babies are always a blessing.
They have chosen to stay together as a couple. They have chosen to face up to the responsibility of what has happened. They are being truthful and honest with fans. Stop hating and accept it. Presumably they are both adults. This is their decision. They deserve love and support and not hate. Anyone can make a mistake. He’s 27; not 16! He didn’t owe any anyone an explanation and the fact he was worried about fans’ reactions is so sad.
Why can you not just accept that they are adults who can make their own choices. You may not agree with sex outside of marriage. Frankly though, it’s none of your business. I don’t really agree with sex outside of marriage but it’s perfectly natural for someone of his age who is in a relationship to do so - if he doesn’t practice a religious faith which forbids it then what’s the problem?
You are clearly stupid and couldnt read what I am saying and you are derailing the thread...your response have zero contribution to the thread any way
What I am clearly saying is that not accepted in my country, we are not white European so we have different culture..the white west no wonder are already lost with se* addiction, drugs p***philia etc..my country are nowhere like the lost west..so the point is that fans in my country are supporting of him while I see a lots of koreans are against it so I am kinda embarrassed that some people of my country are supporting of it..the point is that kpop agenda to make se* acceptable and the agenda is working
Hope you get it
 

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You are clearly stupid and couldnt read what I am saying and you are derailing the thread...your response have zero contribution to the thread any way
What I am clearly saying is that not accepted in my country, we are not white European so we have different culture..the white west no wonder are already lost with se* addiction, drugs p***philia etc..my country are nowhere like the lost west..so the point is that fans in my country are supporting of him while I see a lots of koreans are against it so I am kinda embarrassed that some people of my country are supporting of it..the point is that kpop agenda to make se* acceptable and the agenda is working
Hope you get it
In what way am I derailing the thread?
Oh and while we’re on the subject of stupid, you don’t even know the correct definition of adultery!
 
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no refute on this clip of JB's music video? Guess there is an agenda somehow.:cool:
Are you asking me?
I am not that familiar with Justin Bieber and I’m not that familiar with Skrillex. Didn’t they do this song together?
Yea, it’s a horrible video. My understanding is that it was a project carried out with fans where they were allowed to draw on still photographs which were then gathered together into a video. I mean, Justin Bieber and Skrillex are obviously still associated with it and I don’t think it’s good that they are. I can’t imagine why anyone would find it appropriate.
What else can I say? It’s pretty bad - apart from any symbolism that people may see in it.
I am not going to try to defend it. It’s indefensible.
 

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Are you asking me?
I am not that familiar with Justin Bieber and I’m not that familiar with Skrillex. Didn’t they do this song together?
Yea, it’s a horrible video. My understanding is that it was a project carried out with fans where they were allowed to draw on still photographs which were then gathered together into a video. I mean, Justin Bieber and Skrillex are obviously still associated with it and I don’t think it’s good that they are. I can’t imagine why anyone would find it appropriate.
What else can I say? It’s pretty bad - apart from any symbolism that people may see in it.
I am not going to try to defend it. It’s indefensible.
The song was a collab between JB and Skrillex. I think his record company used the fan thing as an excuse so that more symbolism can be embedded and then blamed on the fans. Thanks for the reply. What most of us are implying with our messages and discussions here is that the symbolism in many videos are recurring and that is something one must open their eye too. Subliminal messages are marketing strategies that are aimed for the viewers. One thing is using green and yellows to highlight a product's image, another is using evil symbolism like freemason images used in the Jb's video to represent an agenda.
 

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The song was a collab between JB and Skrillex. I think his record company used the fan thing as an excuse so that more symbolism can be embedded and then blamed on the fans. Thanks for the reply. What most of us are implying with our messages and discussions here is that the symbolism in many videos are recurring and that is something one must open their eye too. Subliminal messages are marketing strategies that are aimed for the viewers. One thing is using green and yellows to highlight a product's image, another is using evil symbolism like mason images used in the Jb's video to represent an agenda.
I understand what you are trying to say. What I object to is the fact that other religions, cultures and societies are not always taken into account while considering what things mean.
Its fine to have theories but to analyse them properly, you have to consider all the evidence. It’s okay for other people not share the same opinion you because it is only by discussing those opinions that we learn to be objective.
There is a lot of stuff in that video which I see as inappropriate. Whether it is organised symbolism or whether it is individuals with their own agenda, is difficult to say. It could equally be that the company is having a swipe at people who speculate about them being evil and part of the illuminati.
You have to understand that people like me are just trying to offer an alternative perspective. A perspective where you don’t have to live in fear all the time. There is a lot of evil in the world but humankind has been responsible for some pretty bad stuff. However, humankind is also capable of a lot of love and can be a source of goodness in the world.
 

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Maybe. I know that sex outside of marriage is frowned upon in a lot of cultures. It is in Christianity too. However, realistically I think it’s not unusual that this is the kind of relationship a 27 yr old is having. It’s perfectly natural for a couple of that age to want to have that type of relationship. However, in South Korean culture people tend not to marry until later maybe partly because they have to do military service. Also, being an idol, fans don’t really seem to like them having relationships. This makes it hard for them to have a girlfriend or marry while they are in a group.
If fans didn’t put that expectation on them, they could be more open or even get married younger.
We really have to understand that if someone doesn’t share our religious or cultural viewpoint, then having a sexual relationship before marriage isn’t such a big thing.
Thank you for explaining.

Sorry for interrupting your conversation, but I couldn't help myself from replying your comment.
You said "having a sex relationship before marriage isn't a big thing"? If is it so, then why do you think a global satanic organization such as illuminati considers "sex" as a basic practice of their rituals?

Riligiouns aren't soccer teams you have to be fanatic of one of them, they are simply rules guide us to make right decisions and help us to get through bad times in our life, that's why you find "sex before marriage" in most of these religiouns as a forbidden action which is why illuminati strives to erase any riligious aspect in the world so they can spread their filthy practices freely with no single obstacle in their way.

I agree with you that sex is a natural need for any creature in the world, but we surpass all the creatures by our great intelligence so we aren't supposed to have sex as randomly as wild animals do because we are far more significant than that.

If Chen was going to marry her any way, then why didn't he before sleeping with her? Don't you conclude some key point from this question?
 

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Sorry for interrupting your conversation, but I couldn't help myself from replying your comment.
You said "having a sex relationship before marriage isn't a big thing"? If is it so, then why do you think a global satanic organization such as illuminati considers "sex" as a basic practice of their rituals?

Riligiouns aren't soccer teams you have to be fanatic of one of them, they are simply rules guide us to make right decisions and help us to get through bad times in our life, that's why you find "sex before marriage" in most of these religiouns as a forbidden action which is why illuminati strives to erase any riligious aspect in the world so they can spread their filthy practices freely with no single obstacle in their way.

I agree with you that sex is a natural need for any creature in the world, but we surpass all the creatures by our great intelligence so we aren't supposed to have sex as randomly as wild animals do because we are far more significant than that.

If Chen was going to marry her any way, then why didn't he before sleeping with her? Don't you conclude some key point from this question?
Absolutely, I see what you are saying.
For many religions, sex outside of marriage is unacceptable. However, if this couple don’t necessarily follow a particular religion, then they may not see the need to stick to the rule. There may be all kinds of reasons why he didn’t marry her before having sex. In the past, fans have reacted angrily to idols having relationships. He may have felt that as long as he was in Exo, he would not be able to marry. Further, he probably thought it wouldn’t be ideal to marry before going off to complete his military service. The average age in South Korea for a man to marry is 31. That’s quite high compared to some other cultures. I would imagine it’s maybe quite unusual to get married at a younger age. in fact, many South Koreans today are choosing not to marry at all.
These are all reasons why he may not have wanted to marry yet or didn’t think it acceptable to.
It might not be ideal to have sex outside marriage, but I don’t think it’s unusual at his age that he did. Within a loving, consensual relationship sex isn’t wrong or filthy. It is a perfectly natural expression of a couple's feelings for each other. This may be the only sexual partner he has ever had, or it may not be. We don’t know that.
Yes, it’s good to discourage sexual immorality but we also have to be careful to teach people that it isn’t something wrong or dirty. Wanting to have that kind of relationship at his age, is perfectly normal. In any other culture he may well have been married already.
It’s unfair to expect these idols to remain single for their fans. Everyone needs friendships and love in their lives. He shouldn’t have to hide that out if fear of what his fans may think.
 
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