144,000: Literal or symbolic?

Lisa

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I'm already there. Don't assume just because I'm young, I have no experience of life whatsoever because let me tell YOU that there are kids that grow up in a troublesome household and because of that, they already know what to expect in the future. So you can't say anything about that.

Bold of you to also assume that I don't trust God just because I'm young. Sweetheart, let me tell you I already trust God. Have been for years. You don't know the pleasure, pain, trauma, and happiness I've been through in order to make it to where I am now. I've been tested and put on trials so many times that I trust God 100 percent and still to this day as I continue being tested, that trust will remain as high.

I just can't believe you said "You don't have enough life experience" you must not know how this world operates.

And you're one to cause problems, claim you're right, twist words around. Just as @TempestOfTempo said, I too feel like a fool for arguing with such a foolish being like you. You should honestly leave ViligantCitizen if all you're going to do is twist Gods word, and cause problems for other people. Shoot, you probably don't have experience with the real world if you have so much free time to be doing THIS instead of focusing on something more important. You're on every thread concerned with the world, you're definitely CONFUSED, DECEPTION HAS CAUGHT UP TO YOU. I pray for the best, because if you keep acting like a fool who wasn't raised right, you may stay confused.

And the fact I'm only 15 and had to point this out to you just proves how smart youngsters can be, and that I am certainly one of Gods. For all I know, this whole thing could have been a test by God, or even him using me and others that you need to stop your foolish ways and get right with him. You're ridiculous in need of serious prayer.
You’ve got a lot of life ahead of you and you haven’t experienced enough of it, only being 15. I have been a teen like you, thinking I knew it all at that point when I had no idea that I didn’t know it all until I experienced more of life. It’s not a dig on you but reality.
 
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You’ve got a lot of life ahead of you and you haven’t experienced enough of it, only being 15. I have been a teen like you, thinking I knew it all at that point when I had no idea that I didn’t know it all until I experienced more of life. It’s not a dig on you but reality.
I honestly don't even think I'll have an experience considering the times we're in, and nobody said I knew everything, I just said I experienced A LOT in which some events kids should never experience. And don't give me that "You're going to go through this and this" mess because God already informed me and gave me more knowledge of this world. I know even the utter most BEASTLY things because of God, and HE's the one that taught ME. So when it comes to Gods plan, you can't say anything.

Also, you wanted to inform me how I seem to run away from stuff and yet you ignore THAT TRUTH I gave out just to prove your point. You're one of those people who wants to say something, ignores the other message, and wants the last word badly. I'm wondering how many people I need to talk to in order to suggest a prayer request for you.

You're trying to hide from God and ignore WHAT YOU NEED and instead take it all out on me, that's why you're trying to keep the attention on me being young which really has nothing to do with being one of Gods people. This is what I meant with you being prideful, you need to tone it down and become HUMBLE.
 

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I honestly don't even think I'll have an experience considering the times we're in, and nobody said I knew everything, I just said I experienced A LOT in which some events kids should never experience. And don't give me that "You're going to go through this and this" mess because God already informed me and gave me more knowledge of this world. I know even the utter most BEASTLY things because of God, and HE's the one that taught ME. So when it comes to Gods plan, you can't say anything.

Also, you wanted to inform me how I seem to run away from stuff and yet you ignore THAT TRUTH I gave out just to prove your point. You're one of those people who wants to say something, ignores the other message, and wants the last word badly. I'm wondering how many people I need to talk to in order to suggest a prayer request for you.

You're trying to hide from God and ignore WHAT YOU NEED and instead take it all out on me, that's why you're trying to keep the attention on me being young which really has nothing to do with being one of Gods people. This is what I meant with you being prideful, you need to tone it down and become HUMBLE.
We aren’t in the last 7 years..so I think you’ll have time to get more experience.

I’m like anyone else and comment on the things that seem important to me...what stuff have I ignored that you thought important?

You do know that not everyone here is a Christian right? I saw you asking Jess..she isn’t a Christian..maybe you should be more discerning?

It seems like you’re being prideful in suggesting God taught you everything and no one can tell you anything...
 
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We aren’t in the last 7 years..so I think you’ll have time to get more experience.

I’m like anyone else and comment on the things that seem important to me...what stuff have I ignored that you thought important?

You do know that not everyone here is a Christian right? I saw you asking Jess..she isn’t a Christian..maybe you should be more discerning?

It seems like you’re being prideful in suggesting God taught you everything and no one can tell you anything...
God definitely didn't teach me everything, matter fact nobody but him can know everything in the first place. Since you can't understand the difference between "everything" and "a lot" I suggest you work on trying not to compare everything.
When I said you can't say anything, I meant you're not aware of what I've been through, therefore you can't assume just how much I've learnt, and I already told you I will be experiencing more things need be, it's ultimately decided by God. I personally just felt we were too close in the end times that I would hardly continue.

And yes, you can have your opinion but there's a difference between having an opinion and openly claiming something against someone. However, I meant I stand by Gods word, not by what man says. Some things I write have deeper meanings that you somehow just can't figure out, and it'd be easy if you looked deep into Gods word.

Anyways...I digress.
 

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Ah, you laugh at the thought of becoming humble? You shouldn't laugh at Gods word. And by that message, it had a deeper meaning so I really suggest not laughing at something serious.

It seems you think everything is fun and games...watch yourself.
I think he was laughing at the irony of your words..
 
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I think he was laughing at the irony of your words..
Then that's him also laughing at Gods word.

1 Peter 5:6 Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you,

Philippians 2:3 Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. (This one is for you lisa)

1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, you who are younger, be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.

Proverbs 29:23 One's pride will bring him low, but he who is lowly in spirit will obtain honor

Etc..

So I guess by me suggesting Gods word, it's also irony. Sad shame.
 

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Then that's him also laughing at Gods word.

1 Peter 5:6 Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you,

Philippians 2:3 Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. (This one is for you lisa)

1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, you who are younger, be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.

Proverbs 29:23 One's pride will bring him low, but he who is lowly in spirit will obtain honor

Etc..

So I guess by me suggesting Gods word, it's also irony. Sad shame.
Obviously...it’s gone over your head.
 

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Ah, you laugh at the thought of becoming humble? You shouldn't laugh at Gods word. And by that message, it had a deeper meaning so I really suggest not laughing at something serious.

It seems you think everything is fun and games...watch yourself.
Laughing at you little girl
 

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1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, you who are younger, be subject to the elders. Clothe yourselves, all of you, with humility toward one another, for God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.
Can I laugh again? According to your belief, I can just repent and all is good... right?
 
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Laughing at you little girl
Okay, little man. I'm not known as a "little kid" anymore, I'm actually a big kid but whatever. Seize your mockery now, I think you've had enough. But because of you laughing, I'm now aware that I'm doing good. Jesus said the world hates his people because he chose them out of the world, not to mention the lukewarm and cold Christians, so in a way this actually let me know I'm doing good for the day.
 
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Can I laugh again? According to your belief, I can just repent and all is good... right?
Yeah, all is good until you backslide. Repenting ONCE will not get you in the kingdom of God unless you actually do his will with hunger for his word in your heart and endure to the end. We mess up, but become humble enough to get back up and continue your walk with the Lord and all is good. Ultimately, it's up to God to choose his people though. You've got to deem yourself worthy.
 
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That’s your criteria?
Yeah, you don't understand Gods word do you? Because you'd know he said the world hates his people because his people ARE his people so if you find yourself being hated by others because you've preached the word of God or only said so much as a little mention of God and they react in a hysteric way, that's one of the ways you know you're filled with the Holy Spirit doing Gods will even if people hate you for it.
 
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No one is worthy..
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.​
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His people are worthy because he's the one that chose them. By "deem yourself worthy" I mean do Gods will fully, ugh my patience is low but I'll give you the verse and just turn the other cheek for your sake.
 
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No one is worthy..
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.​
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Luke 21:36 "Watch you therefore, and pray always, that you may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the son of man" this verse means make sure your walk with God is correct, yes, you mess up but make sure you get back up and don't backslide, and that way when you stand before the Lord thy God, you will hear him tell you that you have succeeded.
 

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just turn the other cheek for your sake.
Is that your humbleness talking?


Yeah, you don't understand Gods word do you? Because you'd know he said the world hates his people because his people ARE his people so if you find yourself being hated by others because you've preached the word of God or only said so much as a little mention of God and they react in a hysteric way, that's one of the ways you know you're filled with the Holy Spirit doing Gods will even if people hate you for it
I don’t hate you...but I do think your young and really don’t understand how silly you are right now.
 
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