Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

enja

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Wait so

So he basicly lied saying he didn't take it due to being afraid but then saying he did take it? So he lied Smh
i believe his instagram post was in regards to the lsd accusations... he did say in the post that he 'relied on things he shouldn't have'... one thing i will say though is that i believe it was his company and not him that created that instagram post... there were inconsistencies between h4nbin's speech patterns and the content of the note... and it was written in an app that is not available on the type of phone hanbin has...

Hey guys. I'm really happy to see this thread being active nowadays and since I saw some comments about suh0 and ch@ny30l and their "affairs", I would like to contribute talking about k4i. This can be a controversial topic, since he had two public date scandals, but some stuff about him are too strange to ignore.

If you're an ex0-l for a while, you must at least aknowledge that the most famous ship he's involved with is k4is00, the ship with (d.0/kyung_s00) from the same group. It was really famous during their debut back in 2012, getting attention on Naver search engine as one of the most researched names (even getting number 1 spot).

Ships are polemic for a lot of reasons and a base for fanservice, which companies enjoy to increase the hype to the group. Selling merchandise, going on group/couple interviews or reality shows... It can be really positive.

But with k4is00, it seems the opposite happened. Instead of the eSeM pushing them to do activities together, it didn't happen. Actually, in 2013, it was revealed that k4i and d.0 (who used to be roommates since their debut days) started to dorm with other people, completely dissociating their image from each other. And it's weird, especially considering the predebut fics of them being a little too... intimate, perhaps?
This pic is the most intriguing of them all. Not just because of their position, but because the original had a disclaimer, in korean, to not post it around. What happens in general? Koreans tend to have private forums (more private than this one) to gossip and share their content. If k4i and d.0 are just one of many planned ships for ex0, why the secrecy? (The version of this pic with the disclaimer I found is in a bad quality, but you can look for it on google and find it yourself).

Talking about them until 2016 may be far fetched because although they weren't fully promoted by eSeM (compare with t4emin/k4i or even ch@ny3ol/b43khyun or x1um1n/ch3n), they still interacted to the point the got more shippers (what could mean their interactions were genuine. And since they were always known as "behind the scenes couple", nothing changed much about them and how fans perceived them).

But then, k4i was caught on his dating news with Kryzt4l back in April 1st. Before that, coincidentially, a rumor began to spread in March 2016 about a same sex couple inside a kpop group. It said especifically that "The same-sex couple that they will be revealing are two members in the same group and are trending idols that are expected to cause a ripple in the industry. The outlet is currently preparing for the inevitable lawsuit that will result from the report." (korean source). Many people speculated about 1nf1nite and b(t)s, but ex0 also match that clue. After all, they were still at the peak of their success in 2015. Besides, b(t)s wasn't the bomb they are rn, so maybe it would be harder for them to conceal a scandal like this. But which kp0p company has the money and ways to do so? Also, another blind item about it appeared, mentioning the couple was dating (at the time) for five years, but that wouldn't exclude newer groups, since the training period also counts.

So more or less 20 days after this rumor getting huge attention both in Korea and overseas (since someone translated it to international fans), k4i was reported dating. On the same day ex0 had a schedule and k4i was really sad, as expected (a video of this day, shows how much he avoided the crowd, blinked multiple times). The catch here is that, on the same day, d.0 also showed signals of being sad.


Why would he display such emotions if nothing bad (technicaly) happened to him? Just because his friend/band mate was caught dating?

There's also a video from back 2015 of their concert in Shanghai where fans caught k4i calling d.0 "jagi" (0:10 seconds), a term only used by couples to address each other. It could be supported not only by the lipsync, but also SUh0's reaction after k4i said the word is displeased (probably because there was a translator nearby who could have heard it too).


This being said (just the tip of the iceberg honestly, this whole subject is so weird), I wouldn't be surprised if d.0 going to the army earlier could be a way to make k4i free from controversy. After all, Sup3rm is also part of Capitol Records, which means the group and its members will have exposure overseas. If this rumors of the same sex couple are correct and if k4i and d.0 are the couple mentioned, eSeM couldn't risk them to be caught again, this time by american papparazzis. Korean media was able to bury the proof, but the american ones wouldn't be so easily deceived.
this... i mostly agree with... personally i've always felt all of k4i's dating scandals were fake... right around the time j3nk4i happened there were photos spreading of k4i going with another guy to the cinemas... and right after posting it a sasaeng made a vague tweet about how homosexuality is downplayed... there were inconsistencies with both where kryst4l and j3nnie's locations were according to disp4tch and where they actually were at schedules...

new twice song... seems to be strongly Igbt related... n4yeon said she though about cha3young when writing the rap...
 
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Susu.mochi

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If it’s a younger market then I can kind of see why they’d prefer that to religion but I still think the whole thing is gross.
And I need to say here that I’m not a religious person - obviously I respect everyone for their beliefs etc so even though I don’t believe in any ‘god’ as such, I do believe in energy and vibrations etc, that’s why I agree about Bt5 having bad/dark energy... it’s about vibes isn’t it... But for me god and religion don’t come into it.
Again I absolutely respect everyone here for their beliefs though :):)
Thank you for being so kind and respectful about religions, and not bashing anyone for their belief
 

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So Jennie met rih4nna a short while ago, and she has an eye closed in both selfies she took with her (probably to be like yoo I'm in this, too)

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Ever since that, she's been posting a bunch of questionable pics on her ig.

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That one finger raised also has a meaning. She's posted symbolic pics before but all of the pics above were posted like within a week, and after meeting the demon herself
 

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So Jennie met rih4nna a short while ago, and she has an eye closed in both selfies she took with her (probably to be like yoo I'm in this, too)

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Ever since that, she's been posting a bunch of questionable pics on her ig.

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That one finger raised also has a meaning. She's posted symbolic pics before but all of the pics above were posted like within a week, and after meeting the demon herself
there were rumors she was going to be part of her Fently line (rihanna's line)

see this pic with the doll too

http://instagr.am/p/B2vkL8YHfoG/
And have you notice how all celebs seem to preffer Jennie? I posted other pics and it looks like she is the one making all those conections...I think she is being promoted very strongly
 

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Jennie looks quite average standing beside Rihanna. Of course could be because Rihanna is gorgeous. Hmm everything is relative...
Fun fact: Rihanna was banned from visiting Senegal for allegedly being a member of the illuminati. Can’t believe a whole country did this. Now of course Rihanna is very likely a member of these secret socieities. She went through her humialiation period some years back and now she is building an empire. Must give it to her though, great sense of business depsite never graduating high school. Better to make something of yourself if you are going to sell your soul.
 
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Chibi Maruko Schweetz

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So Jennie met rih4nna a short while ago, and she has an eye closed in both selfies she took with her (probably to be like yoo I'm in this, too)

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Ever since that, she's been posting a bunch of questionable pics on her ig.

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That one finger raised also has a meaning. She's posted symbolic pics before but all of the pics above were posted like within a week, and after meeting the demon herself
I feel that she just like said "Hey! I am the golden girl of Waiji! Because I sacrifice maself for popularity! I am the queen! And I will do everything even the worst thing for wealthy and popularity!" I miss my previous Jen(whistle era and BeePee house era) she looks like more natural and happy. Illumi makes her get anxiety I think. And my speculation is Jen maybe sacrificed more than other member, didn't she? Or It may be she is the favourite of illumi because she has something inside? Her parents are rich. So they can pay much for popularity. It's my speculation
 

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Hey guys. I'm really happy to see this thread being active nowadays and since I saw some comments about suh0 and ch@ny30l and their "affairs", I would like to contribute talking about k4i. This can be a controversial topic, since he had two public date scandals, but some stuff about him are too strange to ignore.

If you're an ex0-l for a while, you must at least aknowledge that the most famous ship he's involved with is k4is00, the ship with (d.0/kyung_s00) from the same group. It was really famous during their debut back in 2012, getting attention on Naver search engine as one of the most researched names (even getting number 1 spot).

Ships are polemic for a lot of reasons and a base for fanservice, which companies enjoy to increase the hype to the group. Selling merchandise, going on group/couple interviews or reality shows... It can be really positive.

But with k4is00, it seems the opposite happened. Instead of the eSeM pushing them to do activities together, it didn't happen. Actually, in 2013, it was revealed that k4i and d.0 (who used to be roommates since their debut days) started to dorm with other people, completely dissociating their image from each other. And it's weird, especially considering the predebut fics of them being a little too... intimate, perhaps?
This pic is the most intriguing of them all. Not just because of their position, but because the original had a disclaimer, in korean, to not post it around. What happens in general? Koreans tend to have private forums (more private than this one) to gossip and share their content. If k4i and d.0 are just one of many planned ships for ex0, why the secrecy? (The version of this pic with the disclaimer I found is in a bad quality, but you can look for it on google and find it yourself).

Talking about them until 2016 may be far fetched because although they weren't fully promoted by eSeM (compare with t4emin/k4i or even ch@ny3ol/b43khyun or x1um1n/ch3n), they still interacted to the point the got more shippers (what could mean their interactions were genuine. And since they were always known as "behind the scenes couple", nothing changed much about them and how fans perceived them).

But then, k4i was caught on his dating news with Kryzt4l back in April 1st. Before that, coincidentially, a rumor began to spread in March 2016 about a same sex couple inside a kpop group. It said especifically that "The same-sex couple that they will be revealing are two members in the same group and are trending idols that are expected to cause a ripple in the industry. The outlet is currently preparing for the inevitable lawsuit that will result from the report." (korean source). Many people speculated about 1nf1nite and b(t)s, but ex0 also match that clue. After all, they were still at the peak of their success in 2015. Besides, b(t)s wasn't the bomb they are rn, so maybe it would be harder for them to conceal a scandal like this. But which kp0p company has the money and ways to do so? Also, another blind item about it appeared, mentioning the couple was dating (at the time) for five years, but that wouldn't exclude newer groups, since the training period also counts.

So more or less 20 days after this rumor getting huge attention both in Korea and overseas (since someone translated it to international fans), k4i was reported dating. On the same day ex0 had a schedule and k4i was really sad, as expected (a video of this day, shows how much he avoided the crowd, blinked multiple times). The catch here is that, on the same day, d.0 also showed signals of being sad.


Why would he display such emotions if nothing bad (technicaly) happened to him? Just because his friend/band mate was caught dating?

There's also a video from back 2015 of their concert in Shanghai where fans caught k4i calling d.0 "jagi" (0:10 seconds), a term only used by couples to address each other. It could be supported not only by the lipsync, but also SUh0's reaction after k4i said the word is displeased (probably because there was a translator nearby who could have heard it too).


This being said (just the tip of the iceberg honestly, this whole subject is so weird), I wouldn't be surprised if d.0 going to the army earlier could be a way to make k4i free from controversy. After all, Sup3rm is also part of Capitol Records, which means the group and its members will have exposure overseas. If this rumors of the same sex couple are correct and if k4i and d.0 are the couple mentioned, eSeM couldn't risk them to be caught again, this time by american papparazzis. Korean media was able to bury the proof, but the american ones wouldn't be so easily deceived.
I have just thought why EsEm chose Kayi and Bee. They're always shipped. So EsEm thinks that they must dissociate them due to the paparazzi and Sasaeng. And for D.0, I have a video that he doesn't want to have a wife/girlfriend. He seems he doesn't have any interest with girls. (This talk about D.0 wants to be a farmer.)
"MC: So will you do that with your wife?
D.0 seemed he had to think long time for saying yes/no. He seemed blank and after the MC asked again, he said yes"
KayS00 and Ch@nbee are too clingy to each other. And EsEm avoids that gossip of l98T Kpop artist in their company. It's what I think guys. Do you have any idea?
 

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Who knows about kard new song? It has illuminati / satanic symbolism and lyrics nonsense. I really dont like that song and video. i almost dont listen songs of kpop and i'm a christian too.
I've seen that. And yes, you're right
I tried to find some disturbing details....
The most obvious is black vs. white combination
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Here S0min seemes to sit on the altar (connected with sacrifice)
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And SJ scene has red candles (mentioned before) but also the chair he's sitting on has symbol of two-headed eagle (at least it resembles one) - the one I added is 33rd degree mas0n eagle; I'm sorry about small photo
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Bi.eM appears along with lightning bolts ("Satanic worshippers identify this as ‘777’ famed by Aleister Crowley who wrote the guide to witchcraft and satanic worship")
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Also this background is mainly with roses. They are connected with applicant's rosettes on the apron which indicates his degree. Roses also appeared at the R0thschild 1llum1nat1 party from 1972
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And this "flower" she's holding looks like 4-leaf clovers to me
I've found that it's mainly connected with Rosicrucianism. It's a spiritual and cultural secretive movement which was influential on Freemas0nry. I've found piece of James A. Marples titled "IS THE IRISH 4-LEAF CLOVER A ROSICRUCIAN SYMBOL ALL OVER?" (and he is inter alia a member of the Y0rk Rite and of the Knight Mas0ns)

The rest of images below show the upside down cross (a symbol of rejecting/mocking Christ) under the eye; breaking the shackles (kind of release from slavery); drinking from the chalice (symbol known as "the Square and Compasses") and holding a rod (rods symbolize "the proper and true guidance in the truths of mas0nry") - actually I realized that bt5's Ratm0n had kind of rod in 'we are bulletproof pt2'. I thought in 'boy with luv' too but apparently it's an umbrella :rolleyes:

Terribly sorry about a long post! ^_^'
 

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I've seen that. And yes, you're right
I tried to find some disturbing details....
The most obvious is black vs. white combination
View attachment 25818
Here S0min seemes to sit on the altar (connected with sacrifice)
View attachment 25808
And SJ scene has red candles (mentioned before) but also the chair he's sitting on has symbol of two-headed eagle (at least it resembles one) - the one I added is 33rd degree mas0n eagle; I'm sorry about small photo
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Bi.eM appears along with lightning bolts ("Satanic worshippers identify this as ‘777’ famed by Aleister Crowley who wrote the guide to witchcraft and satanic worship")
View attachment 25813
Also this background is mainly with roses. They are connected with applicant's rosettes on the apron which indicates his degree. Roses also appeared at the R0thschild 1llum1nat1 party from 1972
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And this "flower" she's holding looks like 4-leaf clovers to me
I've found that it's mainly connected with Rosicrucianism. It's a spiritual and cultural secretive movement which was influential on Freemas0nry. I've found piece of James A. Marples titled "IS THE IRISH 4-LEAF CLOVER A ROSICRUCIAN SYMBOL ALL OVER?" (and he is inter alia a member of the Y0rk Rite and of the Knight Mas0ns)

The rest of images below show the upside down cross (a symbol of rejecting/mocking Christ) under the eye; breaking the shackles (kind of release from slavery); drinking from the chalice (symbol known as "the Square and Compasses") and holding a rod (rods symbolize "the proper and true guidance in the truths of mas0nry") - actually I realized that bt5's Ratm0n had kind of rod in 'we are bulletproof pt2'. I thought in 'boy with luv' too but apparently it's an umbrella :rolleyes:

Terribly sorry about a long post! ^_^'[/QUOTE
 

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I've seen that. And yes, you're right
I tried to find some disturbing details....
The most obvious is black vs. white combination
View attachment 25818
Here S0min seemes to sit on the altar (connected with sacrifice)
View attachment 25808
And SJ scene has red candles (mentioned before) but also the chair he's sitting on has symbol of two-headed eagle (at least it resembles one) - the one I added is 33rd degree mas0n eagle; I'm sorry about small photo
View attachment 25809
View attachment 25811
Bi.eM appears along with lightning bolts ("Satanic worshippers identify this as ‘777’ famed by Aleister Crowley who wrote the guide to witchcraft and satanic worship")
View attachment 25813
Also this background is mainly with roses. They are connected with applicant's rosettes on the apron which indicates his degree. Roses also appeared at the R0thschild 1llum1nat1 party from 1972
View attachment 25814
And this "flower" she's holding looks like 4-leaf clovers to me
I've found that it's mainly connected with Rosicrucianism. It's a spiritual and cultural secretive movement which was influential on Freemas0nry. I've found piece of James A. Marples titled "IS THE IRISH 4-LEAF CLOVER A ROSICRUCIAN SYMBOL ALL OVER?" (and he is inter alia a member of the Y0rk Rite and of the Knight Mas0ns)

The rest of images below show the upside down cross (a symbol of rejecting/mocking Christ) under the eye; breaking the shackles (kind of release from slavery); drinking from the chalice (symbol known as "the Square and Compasses") and holding a rod (rods symbolize "the proper and true guidance in the truths of mas0nry") - actually I realized that bt5's Ratm0n had kind of rod in 'we are bulletproof pt2'. I thought in 'boy with luv' too but apparently it's an umbrella :rolleyes:

Terribly sorry about a long post! ^_^'
You're right. Thank you for the long post. I understood. You know so much about this. I just could identify the down cross and others things in the video. Devil works in the mind of the ppl who follow this group and all kpop groups actually. In the bomb bomb song of them (kard) somin appeared with the several roses like a throne who was given by devil.I hope you understand my english. :(
 
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Chibi Maruko Schweetz

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Does anybody notice with 3v3r9low's comeback with "Hush"? I know I am late to ask this. But I have some pictures of them in their new comeback. I am sorry if the pictures are not good. It's hard because I have to screenshot it one bye one :)

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She does "hush" symbol?
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Screenshot_20190924-115459.pngIn here there are numbers that are so mysterious.
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/attachments/screenshot_2019-05-04-20-06-15-png.21512/


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Sun and moon?
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It's look like triangle. And there is sun?
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What is that? What does it mean? Any idea?
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Altar?
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Stairs???
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Three pillars???
I continue in the next thread
 

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I feel that she just like said "Hey! I am the golden girl of Waiji! Because I sacrifice maself for popularity! I am the queen! And I will do everything even the worst thing for wealthy and popularity!" I miss my previous Jen(whistle era and BeePee house era) she looks like more natural and happy. Illumi makes her get anxiety I think. And my speculation is Jen maybe sacrificed more than other member, didn't she? Or It may be she is the favourite of illumi because she has something inside? Her parents are rich. So they can pay much for popularity. It's my speculation
I think compared to other members she could be more willing to sleep her way up or do what's necessary to be promoted.
 

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When he gets to the stadium, it makes me think of Dark Knight, because of the NCT BOMB clip:
By the way, I posted a link in my list, where he had the movie Oblivion, where he had a reference number 49, he also talks about the movie Batman:
See: 4) Le Super Bowl à travers les films Batman, Oblivion et The Hunger Games - Comète Ison.
Attention, it is the second page which appears, after the display of the first one.

+New Clip of Jackson:
+ Text in English:
Devil in a black dress They must’ve kicked you out of heaven I wish I knew you were an actress I fell in love with your impression Cause now I’m staring down a barrel You got my life in your hands now You wanna hit me with an arrow 6 seconds till it’s man down Locked and loaded finding your target, You marked it I’m the one you’ve chosen to hit, I’m your victim Finger on the trigger I know it’s too late to be saved Bullet to the heart Bullet to the heart I fell for a stranger With one in the chamber Who left me for dead and with a scar on my heart Bullet to the heart Bullet to the heart Oh you’re so reckless Leaving me breathless You go to my head and leave me alone in the dark Bullet to the heart Bullet to the heart Bullet to the heart Elegant assassin You spin me round like a revolver A dozen roses on my casket I thought we’d end up at the altar But now you got me going under Blowin’ kisses to my tombstone You already found another Wish I could tell him all that I know (tell him all I know) Locked and loaded finding your target, You marked it I’m the one you’ve chosen to hit, I’m your victim Finger on the trigger I know it’s too late to be saved Bullet to the heart Bullet to the heart I fell for a stranger With one in the chamber Who left me for dead and with a scar on my heart Bullet to the heart Bullet to the heart Oh you’re so reckless Leaving me breathless You go to my head and leave me alone in the dark Bullet to the heart Bullet to the heart Bullet to the heart
Et Français:
Diable en robe noire
Ils doivent vous expulser du paradis
Je voudrais savoir que tu étais une actrice
Je suis tombé amoureux de ton impression

Parce que maintenant je regarde dans un baril
Tu as ma vie entre tes mains maintenant
Tu veux me frapper avec une flèche
6 secondes jusqu’à ce que c’est l'homme

Verrouillé et chargé pour trouver votre cible,
Vous l'avez marqué
Je suis celui que vous avez choisi de frapper, je suis votre victime
Doigt sur la gachette
Je sais qu’il est trop tard pour être sauvé

Balle au coeur
Balle au coeur
Je suis tombé amoureux d'un étranger
Avec un dans la chambre
Qui m'a laissé pour mort et avec une cicatrice sur mon coeur

Balle au coeur
Balle au coeur
Oh tu es si imprudent
Me laissant à bout de souffle
Tu vas dans ma tête et me laisse seul dans le noir

Balle au coeur
Balle au coeur
Balle au coeur

Assassin élégant
Tu me fais tourner comme un revolver
Une douzaine de roses sur mon cercueil
Je pensais qu'on se retrouverait à l'autel

Mais maintenant tu me dois aller sous
Blowin ’bisous à ma pierre tombale
Vous avez déjà trouvé un autre
J'aimerais pouvoir lui dire tout ce que je sais (lui dire tout ce que je sais)

Verrouillé et chargé pour trouver votre cible,
Vous l'avez marqué
Je suis celui que vous avez choisi de frapper, je suis votre victime
Doigt sur la gachette
Je sais qu’il est trop tard pour être sauvé

Balle au coeur
Balle au coeur
Je suis tombé amoureux d'un étranger
Avec un dans la chambre
Qui m'a laissé pour mort et avec une cicatrice sur mon coeur

Balle au coeur
Balle au coeur
Oh tu es si imprudent
Me laissant à bout de souffle
Tu vas dans ma tête et me laisse seul dans le noir

Balle au coeur
Balle au coeur
Balle au coeur

The lady in black will surely make you think of the lady in red TVXQ! The black fabric fabrics in for example New Heroes of Ten or in the movie The Fantastic Beats. He even appears in the new SuperM trailer.
And the black fingers of the lady, to those for example to Twilight of ONEUS.
 
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