“Don’t force your help on people who are not willing to change”

[Eternal Salvation]

Wow! You're right!

I was just talking about this with my mom. I told her I spread God's word on social media all the time and all I ever get back is hate! That's because most people prefer their evil desires over God.

Sometimes, you just can't change people and that's life. Not everyone is meant to inherit the kingdom of God anyways. When someone threatens you just for spreading his word, that's when you remain fearless and tell them the truth anyways. If they disagree, they on their own ;-;

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Wow! You're right!

I was just talking about this with my mom. I told her I spread God's word on social media all the time and all I ever get back is hate! That's because most people prefer their evil desires over God.

Sometimes, you just can't change people and that's lite. Not everyone is meant to inherit the kingdom of God anyways. When someone threatens you just for spreading his word, that's when you remain fearless and tell them the truth anyways. If they disagree, they on their own ;-;

I think this old advert gets the tone over right!!!

 

[Todd]

Wow! You're right!

I was just talking about this with my mom. I told her I spread God's word on social media all the time and all I ever get back is hate! That's because most people prefer their evil desires over God.

Sometimes, you just can't change people and that's lite. Not everyone is meant to inherit the kingdom of God anyways. When someone threatens you just for spreading his word, that's when you remain fearless and tell them the truth anyways. If they disagree, they on their own ;-;

Do you really consider sharing bible verses on social media as helping others? Jesus often met a physical need before sharing the gospel with anyone. Try showing the love of God through your actions and being an example of uncondtional love, before beating someone over the head with the Bible...you will see markedly improved results.

 

[Eternal Salvation]

Do you really consider sharing bible verses on social media as helping others? Jesus often met a physical need before sharing the gospel with anyone. Try showing the love of God through your actions and being an example of uncondtional love, before beating someone over the head with the Bible...you will see markedly improved results.

I have to disagree with you. First of all, God's people have DIFFERENT jobs. I'm not the type of person to preach it out on the streets. Sure, I may share the gospel with a few people I know of, but going to people and telling them isn't my job. That's another job for another person or people that God is giving them.

Next, social media actually needs to gospel. God been opened my eyes to all of these evil, greedy, lustful, prideful people on the internet. All you ever see are problems there. I'm not talking about drama problems either, I'm talking about what God showed me in which I'm not sure if you'd understand because I'm NOT assuming this, but it sounds like you're not on good terms with God just by your reply.

God told us to judge with righteousness, and that is what I'm doing to you, and to others who are lost. Plus people expose evil on social media all the time and I usually see them exposing those sellout celebrities which is good since they practice witchcraft and perform spells on their songs. For me, social media is the biggest way to go, so God gave me that job.

And well, you don't know me... so I don't know why you told me to try showing the love through God by my actions and with unconditional love when that's what I also do. God did say to love everybody, but I sure don't love satanists let alone satan himself. It's quite hard to love someone who blasphemes God's name such as them, and quite the number of atheists.

"-Before beating someone over the head with your Bible" Are you a Christian, or no? A Christian wouldn't say this, and if they did, it would mean they're still training in righteousness, so is that what's happening with you? Just so you know, I take my time with people whilst sharing the Gospel but my patience is kind of wearing off since people set that aside and start mocking me and Jesus while they're at it.

"-You will see markedly improved results." Yeah, I will, and I already have. God is the one who will see these results and he will reward me for it. He said he will reward his people for their faith and works. You see, "Faith without works is dead" So as long as you have faith AND work with that faith and listen to what God wants you to do, you'll feel happy and satisfied sharing his perfect word with those who are lost. I've been feeling that all along.

So in conclusion, thanks for replying and it's fine if you disagree, but I've just noticed something off with it.. well have a blessed day.

 

[Todd]

I have to disagree with you. First of all, God's people have DIFFERENT jobs. I'm not the type of person to preach it out on the streets. Sure, I may share the gospel with a few people I know of, but going to people and telling them isn't my job. That's another job for another person or people that God is giving them.

First of all I never said anything about preaching on the streets. My post was specifically about loving your neighbor and showing the love of God through actions. The fact that you "preach" on social media but have an excuse that people have different jobs when it comes to sharing the gospel for why you won't preach on the street tells me more about your insecurties and need to hide behind a computer screen than anything.

Next, social media actually needs to gospel. God been opened my eyes to all of these evil, greedy, lustful, prideful people on the internet. All you ever see are problems there. I'm not talking about drama problems either, I'm talking about what God showed me in which I'm not sure if you'd understand because I'm NOT assuming this, but it sounds like you're not on good terms with God just by your reply.

People on Social media are no better or worse than the real world. Everything just comes out because of the relative anonimity of social media. The same reason you can preach at stranger through social media but not strangers on the street. And yes you would be best to not make any assumptions about my "standing" with God. But I have feeling you are like many of the other religiously bound Christians on this website and the longer you stick around the more likely you will be judging me and condemning me as lost/fallen/reprobate, etc.

God told us to judge with righteousness, and that is what I'm doing to you, and to others who are lost.

Wow that didn't take very long. You went from claiming to not making assumptions to judging me as lost in the same post. LOL!
Where did God tell us as individuals to judge other individuals?

Plus people expose evil on social media all the time and I usually see them exposing those sellout celebrities which is good since they practice witchcraft and perform spells on their songs. For me, social media is the biggest way to go, so God gave me that job.

God gave you the job of judging people on social media? That's funny. The only job, that I see God or Jesus commanding us to do is to love our neighbor as ourself and make disciples. I don't remember reading any command to judge strangers.

And well, you don't know me... so I don't know why you told me to try showing the love through God by my actions and with unconditional love when that's what I also do.

I'm glad to hear that. I was just responding to your post in a thread about helping people and since the social media thing was the only thing you mentioned and you seemed discouraged by the results of it, I was simply offering a suggestion of a better way to actually try to help people. If you already do that great!

God did say to love everybody, but I sure don't love satanists let alone satan himself. It's quite hard to love someone who blasphemes God's name such as them, and quite the number of atheists.

Well that statement speak volumes. I'm glad God and Jesus did not have that attitude towards me, before I came to know them.

"-Before beating someone over the head with your Bible" Are you a Christian, or no?

If you ask the other Christian's on this forum I apparently am not. I am what was called in the New Testemant a follower of "The Way". I trust in the work of Christ on the Cross. I however do not subscribe to many orthodox doctrines of instituionalized Christianity. I'll let you decide if that means I'm a Christian or not in your book.

A Christian wouldn't say this, and if they did, it would mean they're still training in righteousness, so is that what's happening with you?

No, not at all. I became a Christian 30 years, I was "a pastor" for some time in the instituionalized Church and have discipled and lead many people to Christ. The phrase "beat someone ove the head with the Bible" is simply refering to preaching at someone without having a relationship with them. It rarely accomplishes anything. It's through following the commands and examples of Christ in loving our neighbors that the doors will be opened to share God's word with other people.

When I took a survey of how Jesus interacted with different people in the Gospels I realized the only people he ever "preached the word of God at" with an attitude of judgement, were the self righteous religious elite. The sinners and the lost he always loved and demonstrated God's love to, with little tone of judgement or condemnation. Those were also the people who actually responded to the gospel. Something to be learned there.

"Just so you know, I take my time with people whilst sharing the Gospel but my patience is kind of wearing off since people set that aside and start mocking me and Jesus while they're at it.

Hence my suggestion of showing unconditional love through good deeds. Not everyone I have helped has immediately received the gospel of Christ, but they all have respected and appreciated me because of how I treated them or help them. I have no issues with patience wearing off, because Jesus said when I do it to the least of any human being I am doing it unto him.

"-You will see markedly improved results." Yeah, I will, and I already have. God is the one who will see these results and he will reward me for it. He said he will reward his people for their faith and works. You see, "Faith without works is dead" So as long as you have faith AND work with that faith and listen to what God wants you to do, you'll feel happy and satisfied sharing his perfect word with those who are lost. I've been feeling that all along.

Then why are you loosing patience and come across as discouraged and defeated? I am more fullfilled and satisifed loving people and demonstrating the love of God through actions and deeds than I ever was preaching from the pulpit.

So in conclusion, thanks for replying and it's fine if you disagree, but I've just noticed something off with it.. well have a blessed day.

Thank you, I am having a blessed day. I hope you are also!

 

[Dalit]

Just saving a space here to edit and mention more about Boundaries by Henry Cloud and John Townsend later. We can't change others, but must forgive them even if we need distance from some. We're responsible to others but not for others. Scripture never said other-control was a fruit of the Spirit, but self-control is. I think this is some of what you're getting at, @Red Sky at Morning with the Derek Prince video.

Derek Prince has said that he won't counsel those who aren't really seeking help but validation of their current situation and I agree with that. It's good for nobody, the counselor nor the counselee. I did this with a friend not long ago and was so frustrated that she stayed stuck, but again, that was her choice and she never asked me to counsel her even though she considered me a discipler of sorts. I told her over and over again until I was blue in the face to dump toxic people in her life. Her bleeding heart wouldn't let her and still won't. No offense at bleeding hearts since I can be one, too, and will put up with others' crap slinging for way too long. In fact, her struggles made me look at myself and all the toxicity I still allow (too much!) even though I did a full scale dumping of toxic people starting two years ago. I did the polite "drift and die" method of just letting things fizzle out with most. Only the aggressive ones who pushed my boundaries were the ones I got assertive with.

The funny thing is that once I let go of trying to change my friend, she actually changed and is changing for the better. She's still stuck in some ways, but is way better off than before. Plus, if I find myself wanting to change someone else, I don't see what in me needs changing, even if this other person reminds me of a younger me and I want to protect her from making the same screw-ups and mistakes. She's going to make mistakes and screw-up. We all do. We can't protect another from pain. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to sometimes though.

I think this is what Derek Prince is getting at, not that we don't carry one another's burdens (Galatians 6:2), but we don't enable others. As Cloud and Townsend wrote "problems arise when people act as if their 'boulders' are daily loads, or as if their 'daily loads' are burdens they shouldn't have to carry. The results of these two instances are either perpetual pain or irresponsibility." Burdens are the boulders that we can ask for help with and daily loads are our responsibility. I'm a bit more prone to try to carry my own boulders and live in pain and then go and try to tackle others' burdens and daily loads and get overwhelmed and discouraged.

 

[Lisa]

but I've just noticed something off with it..

Yes..there is something off with Todd’s ‘Christianity’.

 

[Lisa]

Just saving a space here to edit and mention more about Boundaries by Henry Cloud and John Townsend later. We can't change others, but must forgive them even if we need distance from some. We're responsible to others but not for others. Scripture never said other-control was a fruit of the Spirit, but self-control is. I think this is some of what you're getting at, @Red Sky at Morning with the Derek Prince video.

Is this the verse you’re thinking of?

Ezekiel‬ ‭33:8‬ ‭
When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require from your hand.​

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[Daciple]

Much of what your saying affirms what this writer is proposing- that substitution theology isn't related to the power of transformation imparted by leaving sin.

Actually what I wrote is contradicting everything this writer stated, I am not sure how you did not pick up on that.

The Substitution Theology is 100% directly related to the power of transformation, it is THAT which gives us the power to leave Sin.

If you have not been Born Again by believing in the Gospel which is what the Substitution Theology is, then you literally have zero power over Sin, none. You will and are 100% ruled by your Flesh and have absolutely no ability to overcome your Flesh. This is not only able to be testified by everyone who has ever been Born Again but is also Scripture.

Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Only by walking in the Spirit, which only come by believing in the Life Death and Resurrection of Christ, aka the Substitution Theology, can one NOT fulfill the lust of the Flesh.

Therefore the Gospel, the Substitution Theology is directly and completely the essence behind overcoming Sin...

The penalty of sin isn't death and hell- SIN IS DEATH AND HELL!

Well what does Scripture say about that?

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord

The word in Greek means the reward, but in a negative context would literally mean the penalty of sin is Death.

And if you read that Chapter most of it is about how one needs to believe in Christs Substitution to be given the Spirit and that because we have died and resurrected with Christ we no longer are indebted to do the will of the Flesh,.

Rom 6;3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

The Gospel proper is the Good News that Jesus preached about the Kingdom of God

The Gospel proper is literally the Life Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. That we deserve Death and Hell because of our Sins but God loved us so much that He sent His Only Begotten Son to live up to the Law we cant, who then laid down His life and took our Sins upon Himself so that we who deserve Death and Hell are offered Grace, and Eternal Life by Faith in Him. And on the 3rd He Resurrected showing that His Sacrifice was accepted and Atonement was made and Eternal Life was secured.

If you ever want to get into the Kingdom then THAT is what you need to believe, THAT is the Gospel...

This is what I find people of today longing for- the teachings of Jesus. His judgement on the proud, His intelligent words that encourage faith in God.

Of course people long for the teachings of Jesus, but your next statement is completely wrong.

Not Peter or the gospel of Paul necessarily, or other figures of the RCC

Well I am not sure if it is your intention but Peter nor Paul are figures of the RCC. Peter literally is the first person to Preach the Gospel, look it up in Acts 2, guess what He preaches?

Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

The Life Death and Resurrection of Jesus Christ...

Paul is not needed in reaching toward the mind of Christ

Scripture is needed to know God, you can say anything you want but the writings of Paul in the New Testament is Scripture and is there to teach you about God Himself. It is a foolish person who says they want to know more about someone and then willfully rejects the Books He gave them to know Him better.

Dispensationalism, zionism, the elaborate theology of Calvinists and Luthers (like sola fide)... they're just man made add-ons to the glory of God. The complete disagreement between churches over these theories only prove how contrived they are. We want discussions about the works and words of Jesus!

What exactly do you personally want to discuss then? I love to discuss and talk about the Works and Words of Jesus!

Daciple you said in another thread 99% of Christians believe in the Roman concept of the Trinity. Yet I read one post online that added up the non-trinitarian denominations and the number might be closer to 6% of 2.1 billion. I believe those wanting to return to Jesus and God alone, without the Hellenized "apostle to the pagans" or anybody latched onto His works, will slowly increase.

I am sure that Christianity will continue to fall away from the basic doctrines that it once possessed, that is literally what the Scriptures say, however these are doctrines that have been since the beginning of the Church.

Jesus never said he "died for our sins". He LIVED to turn us from sin toward the Kingdom of God.

I just wonder if you yourself have actually picked up the Bible and read it. The things you have said in this thread and the person you quoted from make me seriously doubt you actually have read it or like I stated have had a personal encounter with Jesus Christ.

You have made the statement before that Jesus never said He died for our Sins, but He point blank, straight up said it VERBATIM.

If you make that statement again it is clear you really do not care what Jesus did say and want to create a Jesus of your own desire and mind instead of the real Jesus who VERBATIM says He came to die and shed His Blood for our Sins:

Matt 26:28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Jesus DIED for our Sins and Jesus DIED so that we can enter into the Kingdom. You will never get into the Kingdom unless you drink from the cup He passed to the Disciples that contained His Blood for the remission of sins.

Any other way is a lie and false, I hope one day you come to believe in the Gospel, the Life Death and Resurrection of Christ and partake of the cup of His Blood for the Remission of your Sins...

 

[Eternal Salvation]

First of all I never said anything about preaching on the streets. My post was specifically about loving your neighbor and showing the love of God through actions. The fact that you "preach" on social media but have an excuse that people have different jobs when it comes to sharing the gospel for why you won't preach on the street tells me more about your insecurties and need to hide behind a computer screen than anything.


People on Social media are no better or worse than the real world. Everything just comes out because of the relative anonimity of social media. The same reason you can preach at stranger through social media but not strangers on the street. And yes you would be best to not make any assumptions about my "standing" with God. But I have feeling you are like many of the other religiously bound Christians on this website and the longer you stick around the more likely you will be judging me and condemning me as lost/fallen/reprobate, etc.


Wow that didn't take very long. You went from claiming to not making assumptions to judging me as lost in the same post. LOL!
Where did God tell us as individuals to judge other individuals?

God gave you the job of judging people on social media? That's funny. The only job, that I see God or Jesus commanding us to do is to love our neighbor as ourself and make disciples. I don't remember reading any command to judge strangers.


I'm glad to hear that. I was just responding to your post in a thread about helping people and since the social media thing was the only thing you mentioned and you seemed discouraged by the results of it, I was simply offering a suggestion of a better way to actually try to help people. If you already do that great!

Well that statement speak volumes. I'm glad God and Jesus did not have that attitude towards me, before I came to know them.


If you ask the other Christian's on this forum I apparently am not. I am what was called in the New Testemant a follower of "The Way". I trust in the work of Christ on the Cross. I however do not subscribe to many orthodox doctrines of instituionalized Christianity. I'll let you decide if that means I'm a Christian or not in your book.


No, not at all. I became a Christian 30 years, I was "a pastor" for some time in the instituionalized Church and have discipled and lead many people to Christ. The phrase "beat someone ove the head with the Bible" is simply refering to preaching at someone without having a relationship with them. It rarely accomplishes anything. It's through following the commands and examples of Christ in loving our neighbors that the doors will be opened to share God's word with other people.

When I took a survey of how Jesus interacted with different people in the Gospels I realized the only people he ever "preached the word of God at" with an attitude of judgement, were the self righteous religious elite. The sinners and the lost he always loved and demonstrated God's love to, with little tone of judgement or condemnation. Those were also the people who actually responded to the gospel. Something to be learned there.

Hence my suggestion of showing unconditional love through good deeds. Not everyone I have helped has immediately received the gospel of Christ, but they all have respected and appreciated me because of how I treated them or help them. I have no issues with patience wearing off, because Jesus said when I do it to the least of any human being I am doing it unto him.

Then why are you loosing patience and come across as discouraged and defeated? I am more fullfilled and satisifed loving people and demonstrating the love of God through actions and deeds than I ever was preaching from the pulpit.


Thank you, I am having a blessed day. I hope you are also!

Just because I preach on social media doesn't mean I'm insecure and hide behind a computer. I'm actually typing this on my phone. And the fact we have different jobs is NOT an excuse. God gives his people jobs based on what he wants them to do. Example, my sister has depression and anxiety. She wouldn't really be able to preach on the streets, so instead she MAKES SURE to spread his word on social media just like I do even though I don't have what she haves.

God knows who's fit and who isn't fit for a certain job. He gives us a job, we take it and do what he says. Me? I'm only a young teenager trying to help other teenagers find God by his word.

I never judged you saying you were lost. I said God said we can all judge in righteousness, but not in the hypocritical way. Remember when I said I wasn't going to assume? You just assumed I would probably judge you as "lost or fallen etc"

How is spreading his word on social media funny? That's GOOD not funny sir. We aren't only supposed to love each other and spread his word you know. We do more than that which I'll tell you in another post since you either don't know, or just forgot for some reason. Also, yes we righteously judge others including strangers. You don't just judge people you know. For instance, on social media when I tell people the word of God I judge them in righteousness and tell them what they're doing that's bad.

Anyway, I typed more than this but apparently this site got a little glitchy and so half of the rest deleted. Oh well, go figure.

 

[Eternal Salvation]

Yes..there is something off with Todd’s ‘Christianity’.

Are you serious or are you being sarcastic? People have been sarcastic with me lately, so I apologize for not knowing which one you're feeling

 

[Lisa]

Just because I preach on social media doesn't mean I'm insecure and hide behind a computer. I'm actually typing this on my phone. And the fact we have different jobs is NOT an excuse. God gives his people jobs based on what he wants them to do. Example, my sister has depression and anxiety. She wouldn't really be able to preach on the streets, so instead she MAKES SURE to spread his word on social media just like I do even though I don't have what she haves.

God knows who's fit and who isn't fit for a certain job. He gives us a job, we take it and do what he says. Me? I'm only a young teenager trying to help other teenagers find God by his word.

I never judged you saying you were lost. I said God said we can all judge in righteousness, but not in the hypocritical way. Remember when I said I wasn't going to assume? You just assumed I would probably judge you as "lost or fallen etc"

How is spreading his word on social media funny? That's GOOD not funny sir. We aren't only supposed to love each other and spread his word you know. We do more than that which I'll tell you in another post since you either don't know, or just forgot for some reason. Also, yes we righteously judge others including strangers. You don't just judge people you know. For instance, on social media when I tell people the word of God I judge them in righteousness and tell them what they're doing that's bad.

Anyway, I typed more than this but apparently this site got a little glitchy and so half of the rest deleted. Oh well, go figure.

I think you’re looking for this verse..

Ephesians‬ ‭4:11-12‬ ‭
And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ.​

Are you serious or are you being sarcastic? People have been sarcastic with me lately, so I apologize for not knowing which one you're feeling

I am serious, and its ok, this is a tough site to be on sometimes. You noticed something is off with Todd and he’s touchy because I’ve told him that he’s fallen from the faith, because from the things he has said, it seem to me that he has.
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[Eternal Salvation]

I think you’re looking for this verse..

Ephesians‬ ‭4:11-12‬ ‭​

And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ.​

I am serious, and its ok, this is a tough site to be on sometimes. You noticed something is off with Todd and he’s touchy because I’ve told him that he’s fallen from the faith, because from the things he has said, it seem to me that he has.
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Yeah, I was wondering why he acts like that. I was going to tell him half the things he told me wasn't even true. I'm only a young teenager and even I know the truth. Yeah God said no one has full knowledge of the Bible but honestly I don't see who he is to tell me I'm the one being hypocrital with insecurities behind a computer. That was just low of him.

 

[Todd]

I think you’re looking for this verse..

Ephesians‬ ‭4:11-12‬ ‭​

And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ.
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Which has nothing to do with sharing the gospel with the lost.​

 

[Todd]

Yeah, I was wondering why he acts like that. I was going to tell him half the things he told me wasn't even true. I'm only a young teenager and even I know the truth. Yeah God said no one has full knowledge of the Bible but honestly I don't see who he is to tell me I'm the one being hypocrital with insecurities behind a computer. That was just low of him.

I sincerely apologize for offending you. Please forgive me. I think you missed the point I was trying to make though. Also I did not call you hypocritical. If it came across that way, again please forgive me.

Having said that, I still stand by my original contention that preaching at people without showing and demonstrating unconditional love through deeds and acts is a fruitless excercise. If you want to continue talking about that, we can start over with no pre-conceived judgments or assumptions.

 

[Lisa]

Yeah, I was wondering why he acts like that. I was going to tell him half the things he told me wasn't even true. I'm only a young teenager and even I know the truth. Yeah God said no one has full knowledge of the Bible but honestly I don't see who he is to tell me I'm the one being hypocrital with insecurities behind a computer. That was just low of him.

I agree it was low of him and I am glad you see through him..he’s been trying to deceive people with his version of the gospel, take care if you talk anymore with him. I’ll be praying for you since you are a young teenager..this place can get rough with some people having no regard for others.

 

[Lisa]

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Which has nothing to do with sharing the gospel with the lost.​

Everyone has a place in Christ

‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭12:14-26‬ ‭
For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot says, “Because I am not a hand, I am not a part of the body,” it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body. And if the ear says, “Because I am not an eye, I am not a part of the body,” it is not for this reason any the less a part of the body. If the whole body were an eye, where would the hearing be? If the whole were hearing, where would the sense of smell be? But now God has placed the members, each one of them, in the body, just as He desired. If they were all one member, where would the body be? But now there are many members, but one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; or again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.” On the contrary, it is much truer that the members of the body which seem to be weaker are necessary; and those members of the body which we deem less honorable, on these we bestow more abundant honor, and our less presentable members become much more presentable, whereas our more presentable members have no need of it. But God has so composed the body, giving more abundant honor to that member which lacked, so that there may be no division in the body, but that the members may have the same care for one another. And if one member suffers, all the members suffer with it; if one member is honored, all the members rejoice with it.​

She is young, cut her some slack Todd.

 

[Lisa]

showing and demonstrating unconditional love through deeds and acts is a fruitless excercise.

Can Christians really show and demonstrate unconditional love Todd? However, would we share the gospel then?

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Can Christians really show and demonstrate unconditional love Todd? However, would we share the gospel then?

Wow! Are you REALLY asking this question sincerely?

 

[Lisa]

Wow! Are you REALLY asking this question sincerely?

Ya, why?