Is the Story of Jesus a re-telling of Horus?

[Yahda]

Are you guys aware of the fact that if you were to travel to the pyramids you are given a pamphlet that tells you this is where Christianity's story of Jesus come from ?

In fact this is where the whole idea of the trinity come from Aset,Asar, and Heru.

Christmas was their winter solstice.

Jesus being born in a manger

The original what we know today as Mary and Jesus

The 3 wise men....

It's all right on the walls of the pyramids including masonry....


You all have been duped and choose to do absolutely nothing about but to carry on blind in faith.

 

[Lisa]

Are you guys aware of the fact that if you were to travel to the pyramids you are given a pamphlet that tells you this is where Christianity's story of Jesus come from ?

In fact this is where the whole idea of the trinity come from Aset,Asar, and Heru.

Christmas was their winter solstice.

Jesus being born in a manger

The original what we know today as Mary and Jesus

The 3 wise men....

It's all right on the walls of the pyramids including masonry....


You all have been duped and choose to do absolutely nothing about but to carry on blind in faith.

I don't feel duped at all. It's more than just a story in a book...Jesus is a personal God and belief in Him brings you back into a personal relationship with the Father. God did walk in the garden with Adam and Eve and He did talk with them there after all

 

[rainerann]

Set and Osiris is an ancient compliment to the story of Cain and Abel. Set kills his brother Osiris. Geb and Nut are a compliment to the story of Adam and Eve. In the Bible, Abel is the first man to ever die. In the story of Osiris, when his brother Set kills him, he becomes king of the underworld. In other words, the accounts compliment each other. The first man to ever die, king of the underworld. Very similar concepts. Osiris was the God of Agriculture. The Bible says that when Abel died his blood cried out from the ground (Genesis 4:3). This verse also implies that Abel lived after he died, or was resurrected according to the story of Osiris.

The story also is not capable of being compared to the account of Mary receiving the message that would conceive a child in the early chapters of Luke. Osiris was not a God. He was a man killed by his brother. Some accounts say that Isis became pregnant with Horus by using magic. Others say she was pregnant before He died. There is no comparison here.

"She took her husband's corpse back to Egypt and used magic to conceive his child, Horus (other accounts suggest she was already pregnant when he died). " http://www.ancientegyptonline.co.uk/osiris.html

This is taken from a very plain, unbiased site that cares nothing about these sorts of debates in the study of Egyptian history. This is not a description that is comparable with the conception of Mary giving in the early chapters of the Gospel of Luke.

Scripture is silent on the subject of whether Abel would have conceived a child before he was killed. Therefore, it is a possibility. However, the story of Isis and Osiris is the demonstration that the ancient world shared a common message about humanity beginning with Adam and Eve, not a prelude to the eventual development of Christianity.

 

[Yahda]

Are you guys aware of the fact that if you were to travel to the pyramids you are given a pamphlet that tells you this is where Christianity's story of Jesus come from ?

In fact this is where the whole idea of the trinity come from Aset,Asar, and Heru.

Christmas was their winter solstice.

Jesus being born in a manger

The story of Mary

The 3 wise men....

It's all right on the walls of the pyramids including masonry....


You all have been duped and choose to do absolutely nothing about but to carry on blind in faith.

I don't feel duped at all. It's more than just a story in a book...Jesus is a personal God and belief in Him brings you back into a personal relationship with the Father. God did walk in the garden with Adam and Eve and He did talk with them there after all

Hi Lisa. You already know I won't entertain you. You are stuck in your way and that's fine with me.

Anyway don't you believe Jesus is God, but he will bring you back into a personal relationship with the father ?

I'll leave you on this note Deuteronomy 32:36

For the Lord will judge his people ( Israel )

And he will feel pity for his servants

When he sees their strength has waned and that only the helpless and weak remain

Then he will say WHERE ARE THEIR gods

The ROCK in whom they sought REFUGE

Who use to eat the fat of their sacrifices

( this is my blood, take it all of you and eat from it....)

To drink the wine of their drink offerings ?

LET THEM RAISE UP AND HELP YOU !! ( I'll wait lol)

Let them become your place of refuge.

SEE NOW THAT I-I AM HE AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE

and there are NO gods besides ME !

I put to death and I make alive I wound and I heal. NO ONE can rescue you out of my hands

PREACHH !

 

[rainerann]

Listen, the Christian religion is governed by masters called "pastors" and "deacons." It is trauma based mind control. The blueprint is in Saul's writings...

You do understand what trauma based mind control is right? Torture inducing dissociation that is not even comparable to the actions of church people who open their church doors on a Sunday hoping someone will accept Jesus because they believe they are supposed to do this so people will know that God loves them and want them to spend eternity with Him. A person could come and not ever have to come again.

Your definitions are insulting, yet you want people to show you respect. Trauma based mind control is on a whole other level that is not even appropriate to discuss in detail.

 

[JoChris]

Just because pamphlets are printed and distributed widely doesn't automatically mean they are correct.
There are many cults over the years which have given out such material which falsely forecasted the end of the world.

 

[Yahda]

I'm referring to the pamphlets handed out at the actual pyramids giving you the history of the place. You guys come up with the lamest excuses.

This is why it was not hard for me to denounce Christianity. I got tired of lying to myself. Always gotta make an excuse. You got to walk around dumb and blind for a religion. Nothing ever makes sense.....I got tired. All praise to The Most High. It feels so good not to have to deal with bs. I swear. I thank God every day for FREEING MY MIND. Yes Lord.

 

[Thunderian]

Are you guys aware of the fact that if you were to travel to the pyramids you are given a pamphlet that tells you this is where Christianity's story of Jesus come from ?

Do you mean to say that you get your information on Christianity from an Egyptian tourist pamphlet?

No wonder you have it all wrong.

 

[Yahda]

Do you mean to say that you get your information on Christianity from an Egyptian tourist pamphlet?

No wonder you have it all wrong.

Dude! You can see the actual visuals/pictures on the walls. Like come on. It's so obvious they had no choice but to address it in the pamphlet.

To those of you with any kind of sense PLEASE PLEASE FLEE RELIGION. It will fry your brain.

 

[JoChris]

I swear. I thank God every day for FREEING MY MIND. Yes Lord.

A God-thanking atheist is an oxymoron. Either you believe in chance/ evolution or you believe in a God/ gods but hate Him/ them.
Can't have it both ways.

 

[Yahda]

A God-thanking atheist is an oxymoron. Either you believe in chance/ evolution or you believe in a God/ gods but hate Him/ them.
Can't have it both ways.

What gives you the impression I'm an atheist? I love God. My love for the Creator of all things is what allows me to see the ERROR OF MY WAYS unlike you.

 

[JoChris]

What gives you the impression I'm an atheist? I love God. My love for the Creator of all things is what allows me to see the ERROR OF MY WAYS unlike you.

Sorry I misunderstood you.
So you rejected the Christian God, the God of the bible? How did you reach the conclusions you've got now?

 

[Yahda]

Sorry I misunderstood you.
So you rejected the Christian God, the God of the bible? How did you reach the conclusions you've got now?

How do you put a long story short ?

I would say I came to this earth knowing God and spiritually connected, but there were a lot of things I didn't understand. Now add that with a curious mind.

I have always sought understanding, and understanding of the text. I guess you can say grew up in church ( COGIC). I went until I was about 13, or 14.....all while attending catholic school. My best friend was a JW btw.

Anyway. In church, school, whatever, I always asked questions and never could get straight answers. I will hold up your class, your sermon, your Sunday school, your mass, bar mitzvah idc if it didn't make sense. I realized that if you ask too many questions it don't make sense to them either. You always get the run around. Or the answer lead to some more drama that don't make sense. Better yet thats when they start telling you " we don't know, just believe, have faith..."

By now I'm no longer going to church due to sports. I go to a Catholic school and the ball games are on Sunday imagine that ?

Turned out to be a Good thing. I was born knowing God seems like. I had his word, and always studied and read on my own to no avail. Lol. That's just goes to show you the Power of the word and God.

Still I was learning more on my own, more than I ever learned in church. And yes I feel like all church people and religious are the same. Which actually is different. Every one has a different theory and belief. I'm not just saying this btw. I actually observe and ask a lot of questions, talk to different people, and have been around a few different religions. You can even see it on these boards.

Eventually TMH begin to grant me understanding of the text. Once the word begin to open up to me it all began to make sense.

Once I begin to understand the OT, I'm like wait a minute. This don't match anything being taught to the masses in the New Testament. Something is not right.

God just begin to reveal things to me. He begin to reveal the deception. It's all right there in the pages.

Anyway. Back to me saying that I came here spirituality connected. Luckily for me that I didn't allow religion to fully DESTROY that connection disconnecting me from my Creator. Because that's what it does. It take you away from Him, His will, and his word. That for one is on your heart.

Shalom .

 

[Camidria]

I would like to add a nice series from someone who is NOT a preacher featured on TV, this will explain in great detail referencing the Bible and Torah throughout how satan has falsified the story of Jeshua in order to deceive the world with a false "savior" and that Jeshua story differs greatly from all the other falsification stories out there... These stories are similar only because the Nimrod and Semiramis story (also in the Torah) and in old manuscripts, legends ext. really happened and was satan's ingenious way of corrupting Jeshua's true story that did happen hundreds of years later... although Semiramis twisted some details to make herself into a deity, and then Jeshua was born, and His story also really happened (even confirmed by people like Josephus and Thallus who didn't write the New Testament and is considered Historians by our modern Historians). Mary never made herself into a deity btw like Semiramis did, so the Roman Catholics took the false story and glorified Mary as the queen of heaven....

Serious Historians in our modern day say if you deny Jeshua ever existed then you are ignorant of history because what the New Testement tells about Him really happened and all the clues left behind confirm it when you analyse the gospels like a "cold case", when you analyse the gospels for a historical perspective and when you look at non Biblical texts as well...

KD, you also keep mentioning that Michael will "stand up" meaning he will be a sinner first and then without sin.... Jeshua was without sin from birth....

The Messiah is without sin - Isaiah 53:9, 1 Peter 2:22, 2 Corinthians 5:21 and so forth

 

[Yahda]

KD, you also keep mentioning that Michael will "stand up" meaning he will be a sinner first and then without sin.... Jeshua was without sin from birth....

The Messiah is without sin - Isaiah 53:9, 1 Peter 2:22, 2 Corinthians 5:21 and so forth

Job 25:4 How then can man be righteous before God. How can one born of a woman be pure ?

I told you guys. It just don't add up. * await the run around and excuses *

 

[Camidria]

Job 25
25 Then answered Bildad the Shuhite, and said,
2 Dominion and fear are with him, he maketh peace in his high places.
3 Is there any number of his armies? and upon whom doth not his light arise?
4 How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?
5 Behold even to the moon, and it shineth not; yea, the stars are not pure in his sight.

Job's other friends also said a lot of other things that were not Jehuwah's words?

 

[AspiringSoul]

Another low quality post @ King David.
Maybe you should study the underlying metaphysics of egyptian mythology.

What Horus actually represented was the kabbalistic tree of life...or Adam Kadmon ie the archetype of the perfect man, the higher self. Set represented the tree of death or the shadow of the perfect man ie the satanic self.
Jesus Christ was representing the Logos which transcends duality. The counterpart of the logos in egyptian mythology was Nu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu_(mythology)

The watery abyss/ocean represents the Logos/universal consciousness.
The Nun is the source of all that appears in a differentiated world, encompassing all aspects of divine and earthly existence. In the Ennead cosmogony Nun is perceived as transcendent at the point of creation alongside Atum the creator god.[

Notice Atum is the 'creator God' ie Atum represents causation, from which duality also appears.


Now The Logos or Nu is also Vishnu in hinduism.
Brahma (causation) is the same as Atum in egyptian mythology.
The fish also symbolises the Ocean (ie vishnu)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsya
in this story the fish carried Manu from the water
Manu, is wrongly compared to Noah and the water to the flood story. Manu is basically once again, the primordial man....the tree of life.

Nu is actually connected with Khidr AS (but few people really know that) and in the same story of Moses meeting Khidr AS in the Quran, they meet at the junction of 2 seas (representing the duality of yin/yang) and the 'fish' represents this meeting point.
Khidr AS is a figure who is very much like Jesus Christ AS and the new testament teachings of higher consciousness (ie above the LAW which connects to duality).
65So they found one of Our servants, on whom We had bestowed Mercy from Ourselves and whom We had taught knowledge from Our own Presence.
Ie Khidr AS had achieved universal consciousness.

In the sufi myths Khidr AS makes regular appearances in the waters, his appearance is 'green' ie it's basically like Nu.


In islam Nun is also the Divine Pen which precedes the Divine Tablet...
again in sufi myths the ocean represents the 'ink' from which the pen writes down the Loh al Mahfooz (ie the akashic records/destinies of all things ie the code of creation).
The pen is basically symbolic of the same story of Matsaya in hinduism from which 'Manu' the primordial man came into being.

Surah al-Qalam
http://www.searchtruth.com/chapter_display.php?chapter=68&translator=2&mac=

In fact in this Surah it begins with 'Nun' but it ends with the story of Jonah ie being saved by the Whale.

That story of Jonah being thrown into the ocean and saved by the whale is basically symbolic of the Matsaya story.


what will your next thread be about? are you going to compare Yahweh to Santa Claus?

 

[AspiringSoul]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nun_(letter)

 

[Lurker]

Not sure why the OP singles out Christians. It seems to me that most religions are astro-theology based. But that's just me, so I'll just leave it at that

 

[Lisa]

Are you guys aware of the fact that if you were to travel to the pyramids you are given a pamphlet that tells you this is where Christianity's story of Jesus come from ?

In fact this is where the whole idea of the trinity come from Aset,Asar, and Heru.

Christmas was their winter solstice.

Jesus being born in a manger

The story of Mary

The 3 wise men....

It's all right on the walls of the pyramids including masonry....


You all have been duped and choose to do absolutely nothing about but to carry on blind in faith.



Hi Lisa. You already know I won't entertain you. You are stuck in your way and that's fine with me.

Anyway don't you believe Jesus is God, but he will bring you back into a personal relationship with the father ?

I'll leave you on this note Deuteronomy 32:36

For the Lord will judge his people ( Israel )

And he will feel pity for his servants

When he sees their strength has waned and that only the helpless and weak remain

Then he will say WHERE ARE THEIR gods

The ROCK in whom they sought REFUGE

Who use to eat the fat of their sacrifices

( this is my blood, take it all of you and eat from it....)

To drink the wine of their drink offerings ?

LET THEM RAISE UP AND HELP YOU !! ( I'll wait lol)

Let them become your place of refuge.

SEE NOW THAT I-I AM HE AND THERE IS NO ONE ELSE

and there are NO gods besides ME !

I put to death and I make alive I wound and I heal. NO ONE can rescue you out of my hands

PREACHH !

It seems we are both stuck in our ways?

He is a personal God, Yahda

They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the garden. Then the LORD God called to the man, and said to him, "Where are you?" He said, "I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid myself." And He said, "Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree of which I commanded you not to eat?"”
Genesis 3:8-11

They have a whole conversation with Him which I'm not going to print it all-this happened before the events in Deuteronomy.

But you know God is still a personal God. He's the cloud by day and fire by night. With His people even when they aren't faithful to Him because He wants them to know Him and let Him be their God. And the New Testament is a continuation of that. God has given people a way to come to Him and restore the broken relationship that happened in the garden through the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus.