Is the Story of Jesus a re-telling of Horus?

[Thunderian]

David, no one who has seriously studied the Bible or Christianity falls for the kind of stuff that you're posting.

I see a lot of entry-level atheist "gotcha's" that you should know better than to bother with.

 

[King David]

My masters? I certainly do not have any masters.... I am not a Theosophist or New Ager.
I have read the bible thoroughly for myself, therefore I can recognize good Christian websites that answer claims like yours when I see them.

Listen, the Christian religion is governed by masters called "pastors" and "deacons." It is trauma based mind control. The blueprint is in Saul's writings...

 

[King David]

My masters? I certainly do not have any masters.... I am not a Theosophist or New Ager.
I have read the bible thoroughly for myself, therefore I can recognize good Christian websites that answer claims like yours when I see them.

Listen, the Christian religion is governed by masters called "pastors" and "deacons." It is trauma based mind control. The blueprint is in Saul's writings...

David, no one who has seriously studied the Bible or Christianity falls for the kind of stuff that you're posting.

I see a lot of entry-level atheist "gotcha's" that you should know better than to bother with.

You know you called me condescending once and again I would caution you for doing the same to Me. One day you're going to wish you just listened...

 

[JoChris]

Listen, the Christian religion is governed by masters called "pastors" and "deacons." It is trauma based mind control. The blueprint is in Saul's writings...

I actually did the reading of the bible ALL BY MYSELF when I was unable to attend any church. You're letting your preconceptions narrow your thinking.

 

[King David]

I actually did the reading of the bible ALL BY MYSELF when I was unable to attend any church. You're letting your preconceptions narrow your thinking.

All right, so let start fresh okay?

I am so glad you were able to break away from "church."

Now please hear me...

I know of this hurts and you want to defend Jesus until you die, but what you need to do is find out what the Father said in the "Old Testament." He does not change - Malachi 3:6. That means He wouldn't send His Son to change His Law. It all starts there...

 

[JoChris]

God blessed me with a fine Baptist church when we moved from that remote town at the end of 2010. I have been indoctrinated and brainwashed by repressive Baptist churches ever since.

 

[KoncreteMind]

That means He wouldn't send His Son to change His Law. It all starts there...

How'd he do that?

 

[King David]

How'd he do that?

The Commandment of An eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth was given by Yahuwah in Exodus 21:24. Jesus changed it in Matthew 5:38.
The punishment for adultery was death in Leviticus 20:10. Jesus let the woman go and did not bring the man to justice in John 8.
Every man must die for his own sin according to Deut 24:16, Jer 31:30, Ezekiel 18:20. Followers of Jesus (Which means "Hail Zeus"in Greek) claim he was the sacrifice for all sin.
Followers of Jesus claim he was the "Lamb of God." No Lamb of God was ever prophesied of in the Old Testament. Instead the lamb sacrifice had to be a FEMALE UNBLEMISHED Lamb - Lev 4:32

Shalom

 

[King David]

David, no one who has seriously studied the Bible or Christianity falls for the kind of stuff that you're posting.

I see a lot of entry-level atheist "gotcha's" that you should know better than to bother with.

I saw this earlier and laughed a little. Why is it that every time I make a good point you don't have an answer? You've got the New Testament figured out from front to back with less than paper thin arguments written by deceivers who are controlled.

You can't stand against real evidence like Malachi 3:6 when it comes to Matthew 5:38 or John 8.

You can't explain why we're going to continue doing sacrifices again in the rebuilt Temple, when Saul said Jesus was the final sacrifice.

All you've done is try to insult me when you get backed into a corner that you can't get out of change topics and run when you're lost. Then you pretend to reach out with curiosity and slam me with nonsense about a hymn to Zeus. Are you for real?

Listen, you need to put your hand over you mouth going forward, or my Father will curse you.

Shalom

 

[Thunderian]

Why is it that every time I make a good point you don't have an answer?

What questions have you asked me that I haven't answered? Because I have a list of ones that you refuse to.

You can't explain why we're going to continue doing sacrifices again in the rebuilt Temple, when Saul said Jesus was the final sacrifice.

We won't be doing sacrifices in the rebuilt Temple. The Jews will.

All you've done is try to insult me when you get backed into a corner that you can't get out of change topics and run when you're lost.

You are deluded. You keep abandoning threads when you are asked questions you can't answer. I haven't insulted you at all, just asked you direct questions and given you my opinion of your posts. You, on the other hand, have called me stupid for wanting you to make sense.

Listen, you need to put your hand over you mouth going forward, or my Father will curse you.

You are really full of yourself, aren't you?

 

[Lady]

I would like to insert a prophecy chart listing prophetic verses from the Tanach and their fulfillment as revealed in the New Testament. After viewing these, one will find it impossible to place anyone else in the position of Messiah except for the Lord Jesus/ Yeshua.

Prophecy Tanach Reference Fullfilment
The Messiah would be the seed of the woman Genesis 3:15 Romans 16:20
Galatians 4:4
Revelation 12:9
Revelation 12:17
The Messiah would be the descendant of Abraham through whom all nations would be blessed Genesis 12:3 Acts 3:24-26
The Messiah would be a willing sacrifice Genesis 22:1-18 John 3:16
The Messiah would be the coming one to whom the scepter belongs Genesis 49:10 Luke 2:1-7
Luke 3:33
Galatians 4:4
The Messiah would be the Passover lamb Exodus 12:1-51 John 1:29
John 1:36
John 19:33
John 19:36
1 Corinthians 5:7-8
1 Peter 1:19
The Messiah would be lifted up Numbers 21:6-9 John 3:14-18
The Messiah would be the star coming out of Jacob Numbers 24:17 Matthew 2:2
Revelation 22:16
The Messiah would be a prophet like Moses Deuteronomy 18:15-19 Matthew 13:57
Matthew21:46
Luke 24:19
John 1:21
John 1:25
John 6:14
John 7:40
Acts 3:22
Acts 28:28
The Messiah would be our Kinsman-Redeemer Ruth 4:4-9 Luke 1:50
Luke 1:58
Luke 1:68
Luke 1:72
Luke 1:78
1 Peter 1:18
Hebrews 2:11
The Messiah would be a descendant of David 2 Samuel 7:12-16 Matthew 1:1
Luke 1:32-33
Acts 15:15-16
Hebrews 1:5
The Messiah would be called God’s Son Psalms 2:1-12 Mark 1:11
Luke 3:22
Acts 4:25-28
Acts 13:33
Hebrews 1:5
Hebrews 5:5
The Messiah would be resurrected Psalms 16:8-11 Acts 2:22-32
Acts 13:35-37
The Messiah would be forsaken and pierced, but vindicated Psalms 22:1-31 Matthew 27:39
Matthew 27: 43-44
Matthew 27:46
Mark 15:34
John 19:24
Hebrews 2:12
The Messiah would be the righteous sufferer Psalms 69 Matthew 27:33-34
John 2:17
John 15:25
Acts 1:20
Romans 11:9-10
Romans 15:1-3
The Messiah would be greater than David Psalms 110:1-4 Matthew 22:42-45
Mark 12:35-37
Luke 20:41-44
Acts 2:34-36
1 Corinthians 15:25-28
Hebrews 1:3
Hebrews 1:13
Hebrews 4:14–5:10
The Messiah would be the rejected cornerstone Psalms 118:22-24 Matthew 21:42
Mark 12:10-11
Luke 20:17-18
Acts 4:9-12
Ephesians 2:20
1 Peter 2:6-8
TheMessiah would be acclaimed Psalms 118:25-29 Matthew 21:9
Mark 11:9-10
Luke 13:35
Luke 19:38
John 12:13
The Messiah would be born of a virgin Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:22-23
Luke 1:31-35

 

[Lisa]

Listen, you need to put your hand over you mouth going forward, or my Father will curse you.

Shalom

Really? King David? Is that the way your going to be?

 

[Lady]

Miraculously, God gave us more...

Prophecy Tanach Reference Fullfilment

The Messiah would be the great light Isaiah 9:1-2 [Hebrew Bible, 8:23-9:1] Matthew 4:13-16
Luke 1:76-79
The Messiah would be the Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father and Prince of Peace Isaiah 9:6-7 [Hebrew Bible, 9:5-6] Luke 1:32-33
Luke 1:79
John 6:51
John 14:27
Acts 10:36
Romans 9:5
Colossians 2:3
The Messiah would be called a Nazarene Isaiah 11:1, Isaiah 53:3 Matthew 2:23
The Messiah would perform signs of healing Isaiah 35:5-6 Matthew 11:4-6
Luke 7:20-23
The Messiah would be preceded by a forerunner Isaiah 40:3-5 Matthew 3:1-3
Mark 1:1-3
Luke 1:76
Luke 3:1-6
Luke 7:27
John 1:22-23
The Messiah would be a light for the nations of the world Isaiah 42:1-6 Matthew 12:15-18
Luke 2:27-32
John 8:12
(The Suffering Servant, Part 1) Isaiah 52:13–53:12 Matthew 8:16-17
Matthew 20:28
Matthew 26:28
Matthew 27:59-60
Mark 10:45
Mark 14:24
Luke 22:20
John 12:37-38
Acts 8:32-35
Romans 10:16
Hebrews 9:28
1 Peter 2:21-25
(The Suffering Servant, Part 2) Isaiah 52:13–53:12 Matthew 8:16-17
Matthew 20:28
Matthew 26:28
Matthew 27:59-60
Mark 10:45
Mark 14:24
Luke 22:20
John 12:37-38
Acts 8:32-35
Romans 10:16
Hebrews 9:28
1 Peter 2:21-25
(The Suffering Servant, Part 3) Isaiah 52:13–53:12 Matthew 8:16-17
Matthew 20:28
Matthew 26:28
Matthew 27:59-60
Mark 10:45
Mark 14:24
Luke 22:20
John 12:37-38
Acts 8:32-35
Romans 10:16
Hebrews 9:28
1 Peter 2:21-25
(The Suffering Servant, Part 4) Isaiah 52:13–53:12 Matthew 8:16-17
Matthew 20:28
Matthew 26:28
Matthew 27:59-60
Mark 10:45
Mark 14:24
Luke 22:20
John 12:37-38
Acts 8:32-35
Romans 10:16
Hebrews 9:28
1 Peter 2:21-25
The Messiah would do life-affirming, redemptive deeds Isaiah 61:1-2 Luke 4:17-21
The Messiah would be the object of a murderous plot Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:16-18
The Messiah would bring in a new covenant Jeremiah 31:31 Matthew 26:28
Mark 14:24
Luke 22:20
1 Corinthians 11:25
2 Corinthians 3:6
Hebrews 8:6-13
Hebrews 9:15
Hebrews 12:24
The Messiah would be the Son of Man Daniel 7:13-14 Matthew 9:6
Matthew 12:8
Matthew 13:41
Matthew 16:13
Matthew 16:27
Mark 8:31
Luke 6:22
Luke 9:22
John 1:51
John 3:13-14
Acts 7:56
and many others
The Messiah would come according to a timetable Daniel 9:24-27 Matthew 24:15-16
Mark 13:14-15
Galatians 4:4
The Messiah would be called out of Egypt Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:13-15

 

[Lady]

I can go on, there is more on the list but I think that these prophecies from the Tanach will be enough for now to show how the Lord God has procured the rightful reign of the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, from the very start of His communication with man.

 

[KoncreteMind]

The Commandment of An eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth was given by Yahuwah in Exodus 21:24. Jesus changed it in Matthew 5:38.
The punishment for adultery was death in Leviticus 20:10. Jesus let the woman go and did not bring the man to justice in John 8.
Every man must die for his own sin according to Deut 24:16, Jer 31:30, Ezekiel 18:20. Followers of Jesus (Which means "Hail Zeus"in Greek) claim he was the sacrifice for all sin.
Followers of Jesus claim he was the "Lamb of God." No Lamb of God was ever prophesied of in the Old Testament. Instead the lamb sacrifice had to be a FEMALE UNBLEMISHED Lamb - Lev 4:32

Shalom

I think you should compare that story of the potential stoning of the woman in John 8 not being in the original texts, with Jeremiah 8:8 saying the scribes handled the instruction falsely. Did you take Jeremiah 8:8 into account when reading the Torah?

I think someone saying something out their own mouth, is different than someone claiming to be a follower saying something about said person. You dont?

 

[King David]

What questions have you asked me that I haven't answered? Because I have a list of ones that you refuse to.



We won't be doing sacrifices in the rebuilt Temple. The Jews will.



You are deluded. You keep abandoning threads when you are asked questions you can't answer. I haven't insulted you at all, just asked you direct questions and given you my opinion of your posts. You, on the other hand, have called me stupid for wanting you to make sense.



You are really full of yourself, aren't you?

I laid it out for you already... Malachi 3:6 vs. Mat 5:38 and John 8 ring a bell?

The "Jews" will build the Temple huh? So "The Prince" in Ezekiel 46:12... Is He a Jew too? The One who the eastern gate is opened for? The One that eats in the presence Yahuwah?

The deluded one is you. I am not full of myself, just full of the Truth and tired of seeing deceivers like you act arrogantly with lame arguments that carry no weight.

 

[King David]

I think you should compare that story of the potential stoning of the woman in John 8 not being in the original texts, with Jeremiah 8:8 saying the scribes handled the instruction falsely. Did you take Jeremiah 8:8 into account when reading the Torah?

I think someone saying something out their own mouth, is different than someone claiming to be a follower saying something about said person. You dont?

Wow. It's really a waste of time to debate with you any further isn't it? I mean, you don't like that it contradicts the Father, so you just want to say "oh, yeah that maybe wasn't in the original"...

What?? I'm laughing, but I'm sad at the same time...

 

[KoncreteMind]

Wow. It's really a waste of time to debate with you any further isn't it? I mean, you don't like that it contradicts the Father, so you just want to say "oh, yeah that maybe wasn't in the original"...

What?? I'm laughing, but I'm sad at the same time...

Huh? Does Jeremiah 8:8 say the scribes handled the law falsely or did I make that up? Am I making it up that story wasnt in the original book of John?

 

[Thunderian]

I laid it out for you already... Malachi 3:6 vs. Mat 5:38 and John 8 ring a bell?

You don't get to keep asking questions while ignoring mine. There is a post from me from days ago that you still have not answered. Please deal with that one first. You can hardly accuse me of not answering your questions when you still haven't answered my first one. I have looked over your posts and haven't seen anything that will be too difficult to deal with. But since you refuse to answer my first and very simple questions about the Bible, why would I waste my time answering anything else you ask me?

Go back, deal with that post I linked to, and if you can answer what I asked you there, I am more than willing to deal with anything else you have to say.

 

[Thunderian]

I can go on, there is more on the list but I think that these prophecies from the Tanach will be enough for now to show how the Lord God has procured the rightful reign of the Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ, from the very start of His communication with man.

Is that all you have?