BTS discussion thread

[rottielover]

They used to be a macho hip hop/rapper band but now they are "loving themselves" pink vibes mainstream boy band. Of course he had to change his style. Those bands are just a product of people behind the camera.


I agree they were chosen to push the lgbt agenda. There is no american or european guy that would be loved by so many girls and especially little girls while having makeup on and doing skinship with guys.

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Today I watched at a new teaser of a netflicks series and it was all about lgbt. Everywhere in the entertainment you see that agenda and it's scary. Because this is almost like look this is great and nothing is wrong about it. And you better accept this right now. Almost like they are hurrying up for something.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1130820538148876289

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1130583348823244800

They even had to add this in a series that is more for children/teenagers.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1020390577500717057

whoa never realized all those shows and actually all facets of media/entertainment nowadays is promoting the agenda. all i can say is...the end times are closer than we think..maybe that's why the rush and hurry of things. i can't imagine being a child/teenager in this generation.. its like its leaving them more confused about themselves with all these options presented in front of them rather than what was originally created and intended.

 

[cadiz]

They are definitely going to perform a ritual.You know why I think that?
Special performance............they are offered a special performance...A code word for ritual.And they announced it in an open forum to inform those in the know of the special performance.
Just now I read an article about dep3che mode,a very satanic band.In 2017,they performed a special show at masonic lodge,L.A. as "a thank-you for helping them make history by selling out three nights at the Hollywood Bowl and adding a fourth night to the run, something no band had ever done before."
https://www.laweekly.com/music/depeche-modes-secret-show-at-masonic-lodge-was-a-thank-you-to-la-fans-8174125

Doesn't this description sound familiar in the context of bt5?
Those planning all these are hellbent on making everyone believe that bt5 is the next beatles.Any buyers?

yes sounds like a ritual
how apropiate they have shows in the UK (Beatles land) right after that Beatles "homage"...the timing is perfect

Most boybands are compared to the Beatles but now BTS are getting this exclusive invitation and special performance
Reminds me of the Grammys and how they invited BTS to do a speech before...and you have the UN inviting them too

This are "honors" that boybands dont usually get...it makes you wonder

 

[cadiz]

whoa never realized all those shows and actually all facets of media/entertainment nowadays is promoting the agenda. all i can say is...the end times are closer than we think..maybe that's why the rush and hurry of things. i can't imagine being a child/teenager in this generation.. its like its leaving them more confused about themselves with all these options presented in front of them rather than what was originally created and intended.

right now they are even making cartoon characters gay

'Arthur' character Mr. Ratburn came out as gay and got married in the season premiere and Twitter loved it

'Sesame Street' writer reveals Bert and Ernie are a gay couple

in an interview with Queerty, Sesame Street writer Mark Saltzman revealed the best friends are also a couple.

this agenda is pushed strongly with kids and teenagers. Because they are the easiest to control

 

[Truthteller]

I think the Beatles comparison is more about the screaming female fans than anything else. To be fair, though, let's not forget that the Beatles debuted with a song titled "I Want to Hold Your Hand". They had a lot of those teeny bopper type songs in the beginning. It was only after they got more popular that they were free to produce music with more substance and meaning (although there is plenty of symbolism and weird stuff in their music, too). And their impact was really more about aesthetics in the beginning (that long hair that was taboo before the Beatles made it cool). The politics came later and then, like you said, Lennon took it too far and had to be killed. And those topics, while pretty normal in the US, are still kind of taboo in S. Korea -- so they are a little bit more "rebellious" by S. Korean standards. But musically, there isn't much of a comparison. They could, in theory, end up growing musically -- but considering how tightly run the K-pop industry is, I don't really think that is a possibility. I think BTS are becoming popular to push the gender neutral/gender fluid concept. Just like the Beatles brought us long hair -- BTS seems to be the ones who will usher in make-up for men, and not just gay men or MtF transgender individuals. I bet the cosmetic companies are salivating at the idea of opening up a largely untouched market. And then there is the decidedly feminine fashion. I once noticed a tag in V's shirt on a video and recognized the brand. At first, I thought "wow, I didn't know they had a men's line". But, I looked it up and they don't. The weird part is that this brand isn't young and hip -- it is geared towards older women (I know because I'm an older woman and still some of that brand looks too "grandma" for me). And my first reaction to BTS (when my daughter showed me photos of them) was surprise that they wore so much makeup. And how feminine they looked. I actually looked for the adam's apple because I wasn't sure that they were really boys. So, that is what I first noticed about them -- the gender bending look of the group.

Yes they are definitely pushing the the gender fluid and lgbt agenda hardcore. It is not just their appearance, but their body language, behaviours and group dynamic/interactions. A lot of their fans write R-rated fanfics about them having gay sex with each other or other men they ship them with. This number isn’t even comparable with fanfics about them with women. The Beatles were part of the social/hippie movement that brought the sexual liberation agenda and widespread drug experimentation. Needless to say the effects are still palpable. In the 50s couples having children outside of marriage was frowned upon, promiscuity was a disgrace, now it normal and praised. Drug epidemics ravage many communities. The hippie movement also set ground for normalization of homosexuality, I was in San Francisco recently and learned about how the two cultures merged, by the 70s it was in full swing. The setback was the HIV/AIDs epidemic of the 80s-90s that scared many, but needless to say it is back in action. Never before has lgbt been pushed so heavily everywhere in media, schools and books. When I was in 7th grade we had to read a book about a gay boy, the book included some explicit scenes which angered my parents. My classmates and I all thought it was pretty gross and unnatural at the time. Fast forward a couple years if this were to happen today, and someone complained they would be called homophobes. It is not just BTS but a bunch of other influencers and public figures. Just look at the youtube community. The average age of the audience for most of these are 12-14 yos who are at a very impressionable age. Social engineering at its finest. BTS/bighit use very obvious symbology pertaining to gender fluid, nonconforming lgbt concepts in their MVs and photoshoots. I don’t understand how people on this forum still deny it.

From blatant bisexual/lgbt flags to do wearing female clothing. Do you all see the symbolism here:





RM is deep in the closet LOL.

 

[Hopeful]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1130897566349049856

They mad about something?

 

[iyahpeace]

Y’all look at this. aNd Bts just so happens to be invited to their museum for a “special performance”

 

[rottielover]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1130897566349049856

They mad about something?

so what happened to their whole message about loving yourself? at the same time we see them promoting vulgarity knowing that young kids will see this and look up to them. i know that their fashion choices are not surprising news and maybe already pre-planned by their stylist/company..maybe it could be their choice too..i don't know but i really can't them genuinely anymore --- saying one thing and then doing another, completely opposite. what they're pulling off is all an act. a show.

 

[Chic]

Well, even back in my day we had the heavy metal "hair" bands and people like Adam Ant and Boy George. It just never really took off mainstream. I don't think we were ready for it back then. But, this generation seems to be more open to it. Only time will tell, I guess. China has an entire "boy" group composed of girls (Acrush), so I think it's becoming trendy to blur the gender lines.

Just to reiterate, those are girls who look like boys, right? Never heard of em.

 

[rottielover]

is there something special about that building? looks like they like it (because they are pointing at it), or just making a pose for a photo?

Its just a tourist spot, the building at night is known for changing its colors during holidays,etc, a staple of NYC. but i heard later tonight for their live show, they 're going to light up the building purple to commemorate them and @rmys.

 

[Hopeful]

so what happened to their whole message about loving yourself? at the same time we see them promoting vulgarity knowing that young kids will see this and look up to them. i know that their fashion choices are not surprising news and maybe already pre-planned by their stylist/company..maybe it could be their choice too..i don't know but i really can't them genuinely anymore --- saying one thing and then doing another, completely opposite. what they're pulling off is all an act. a show.

They are over the Love Yourself thing..which was also only loving about oneself not others..It's Speak Yourself time for them now..and they're speaking it.
Just watch them get away with this.. If a president or some minister wore this.. It would have been a chaos by now.. But since it's beetees.. They will get away with it.

 

[NotDelulu]

Yup.. I speak Russian so I was like what.. and he wears it to a group photoshoot at empire state building and interview ..
It's like someone would come on a high profile interview with "fuck you" shirt. Very hardcore. What a bizarre choice of whoever is in charge.

Btw look at the comments, fans are gagging - love yourself hate others era.

http://instagr.am/p/BxvOG8EA2xN/

 

[Chic]

Yup.. I speak Russian so I was like what.. and he wears it to a group photoshoot at empire state building and interview ..
It's like someone would come on a high profile interview with "fuck you" shirt. Very hardcore. What a bizarre choice of whoever is in charge.

Btw look at the comments, fans are gagging - love yourself hate others era.

http://instagr.am/p/BxvOG8EA2xN/

Ballsy.
Instead of wearing it in English or even Korean they chose another language as if no one would notice. What will they think of next? Better yet, who is this a message to?

 

[NotDelulu]

Ballsy.
Instead of wearing it in English or even Korean they chose another language as if no one would notice. What will they think of next? Better yet, who is this a message to?

It's always Jimin or JH with the controversial fashion items..
Bts has a large following in Russia from what I see, they will probably wont come there to perform but it's still a really strong language to use (and I am not a subtle lady). Its like in your face message white on black. Not the kind I would like young kids who stan them to see and normaliz.
I dont know what it means, bts themselves probably dont know and dont care as he can wear those boots he's been living in.
I see they wear it for the iheart interview which means this is going to appear everywhere (now watching bits of the interview which is cringey)

 

[Deadlylady]

I watched that iheart interview live and I think this is the first time they did an interview like this. With interactions with fans almost. The people there were talking back to them etc.

http://instagr.am/p/BxviicbHDhT/
The crowd started singing jk phrase he used say to introduce himself way back I think. This isn't a chant. The whole situation was so funny. Because this is just showing that the fans don't understand a word they are saying or singing. And you could feel that the older members (nj genie h0pe) they aren't too happy about him getting all that attention. But they played along.
Nj made hand signs left right and center. Their friend h@lsey came out of nowhere too she needs that hype power for her new single?

Again beatles came up. They are using their fame the revive the beatles or what? Are the members still alive, at this rate they are going to do a collab I guess.

http://instagr.am/p/BxvlgtwnXDD/

 

[Hopeful]

I watched that iheart interview live and I think this is the first time they did an interview like this. With interactions with fans almost. The people there were talking back to them etc.

http://instagr.am/p/BxviicbHDhT/
The crowd started singing jk phrase he used say to introduce himself way back I think. This isn't a chant. The whole situation was so funny. Because this is just showing that the fans don't understand a word they are saying or singing. And you could feel that the older members (nj genie h0pe) they aren't too happy about him getting all that attention. But they played along. Because this isn't a group thing but solo.
Nj made hand signs left right and center. Their friend h@lsey came out of nowhere too she needs that hype power for her new single?

Again beatles came up. They are using their fame the revive the beatles or what? Are the members still alive, at this rate they are going to do a collab I guess.

http://instagr.am/p/BxvlgtwnXDD/

Did you also see.. Their fans embarrassed them..they pointed at jin and jin looked defeated after that..The boys even had to shush the fans..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1130987773739933697

 

[NotDelulu]

I watched that iheart interview live and I think this is the first time they did an interview like this. With interactions with fans almost. The people there were talking back to them etc.

http://instagr.am/p/BxviicbHDhT/
The crowd started singing jk phrase he used say to introduce himself way back I think. This isn't a chant. The whole situation was so funny. Because this is just showing that the fans don't understand a word they are saying or singing. And you could feel that the older members (nj genie h0pe) they aren't too happy about him getting all that attention. But they played along. Because this isn't a group thing but solo.
Nj made hand signs left right and center. Their friend h@lsey came out of nowhere too she needs that hype power for her new single?

Again beatles came up. They are using their fame the revive the beatles or what? Are the members still alive, at this rate they are going to do a collab I guess.

http://instagr.am/p/BxvlgtwnXDD/

Lol sorry but that euphoria chant is one of the funniest things and jungkook plays along with it. First time I heard it somewhere I thought the person singing it was possessed. they just took a line of him doing ayego and saying he is the maknae of bangtan and made a chant of it. They do know what it means.. jungkook being the youngest obviously those kinds of things he can relate.

Just finished watching the interview , what a stupid disrespectful crowd. over talking them, shouting non stop, the boys looked annoyed sometimes. rm is so cocky, he wa feeling himself the entire interview for no reason.
Cant believe the anchor asked the fans who is like to mess up a choreography and they yelled Jin to his face. How humiliating. Aren't you fans? He was like " I am not wrong ". Tae actually asked the fans to stop and signaled them and said nobody is messing up. You are seeing your idols in person, have a bit of respect. They lost all of their brain cells. And fans online are actually furious.

And I cant with those stupid boring questions!! Do all of the interviewers get the same checklist of dumb questions? What is your favorite song? What is your message to army? Who would you like to collaborate with? They looked bored.

 

[Chic]

Had I'd been the host I would've asked "what does your shirt say?" Lol. (They'd lie.) I'd also be a delinquent, deviating from the approved questions, and ask my own. Then a BH staff member would come out of the shadows to cut my interview short.

Man! Wishful thinking. Excuse my imagination.


And guess what?? JH is on vlive! Like clockwork. Playing RiRi's Umbrella.

 

[NotDelulu]

Had I'd been the host I would've asked "what does your shirt say?" Lol. (They'd lie.) I'd also be a delinquent, deviating from the approved questions, and ask my own. Then a BH staff member would come out of the shadows to cut my interview short.

Man! Wishful thinking. Excuse my imagination.


And guess what?? JH is on vlive! Like clockwork. Playing RiRi's Umbrella.

Lol that would be nice. some mad Korean going Daenerys on the interviewer. No! Bad American! Ask about what army means!!

And yes; Well it has been like 3 days without him talking about umbrella! Must. Repeat.

 

[Chic]

Lol that would be nice. some mad Korean going Daenerys on the interviewer. No! Bad American! Ask about what army means!!

And yes; Well it has been like 3 days without him talking about umbrella! Must. Repeat.

LOL! Exactly.

 

[cadiz]

Ballsy.
Instead of wearing it in English or even Korean they chose another language as if no one would notice. What will they think of next? Better yet, who is this a message to?

why him again??
a few months ago he wore a shirt with the atomic bomb, celebrating death

This was a scandal in Japan and Big Hit had to apologize for him saying Jimin had no idea what the shirt ment
now he does it again....wearing a "fuck you" shirt on TV? ....the stylist might hate him