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This is such a good post..
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on stigma..
This song has also been analyzed by a few old members in the previous pages .. If you search stigma.. You will find their thoughts on it..
A few of us believed that relative he is talking about in his song is his grandma ..
Whenever they have a comeback or after a comeback or before a tour. Some close close relative to V and jin died.. Well it could be natural death of course .. But we are all here just theorizing stuff..
And all of them were young and naive when they joined the companies to pursue their dreams .. Maybe it hit them later on that to get to your dreams you have to give something in return that is other than Hardwork..

Because this always being in the spotlight career is not a study or exams like thing. Where you work hard and you top..

It's to stay in the spotlight in the media in the news.. In everybody's faces.. And the media is already under control by whom..? We all very well know..
I'm currently reading from the beginning and realizing that most of what I said was talked about lol. But I'm so glad I found this thread
 
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RFID, Technology and THE MARK
Mention the mark of the beast today and instantly the majority of people will think of some sort of RFID Chiptechnological device like the RFID chip, or a 'techno' tattoo. And we are not only talking about professed Christians. Even non-believers instantly think of some device or physical mark that is placed upon us. So the whole world believes that one day soon we are going to have a physical mark enforced upon us which will be the prophesied mark of the beast foretold in the book of Revelation, chapter 13.

So what about us. Do we go along with this 'mainstream' view of the beast's mark? I'm afraid not, and for VERY good reason. Which is why we have compiled a short list of reasons as to why the mark of the beast CANNOT be the RFID chip or any technology device or physical mark. This is a very important issue we are dealing with here, as some of God's most dire warnings are associated with the mark of the beast.

Please carefully consider the following 7 reasons as to why the mark of the beast cannot be the RFID chip or any physical mark.

1 - We have the Technology to NOT NEED any 'Chip'
Take a look at the below recent news item from England. It shows a superstore introducing a new payment system whereby people can simply scan their finger to pay for their goods. How? Because the technology is available to be able to simply scan your finger, or even your eye and match that with your bank payment system.

Superstore in London is world's first store to offer fingertip payments

And this technology is being pushed now in many places and we will see this being introduced more and more. Which means there is no need for any RFID chip to be planted inside us! Yes, some people are doing it, but you will not see this RFID thing go worldwide, when there is a more simple option of scanning your finger or eye.

2 - The Word "Mark" Doesn't HAVE to Mean a Physical Mark
So many people look at that word "mark" in Revelation 13 and say ..."Well, the original greek for the word mark means an actual physical mark." ... And they would be right. The problem is, they forget that they are reading it in the book of Revelation. You know, that book which is FULL of symbolic language. For example. The beasts of Revelation 13 and the whore riding a beast in Revelation 17. If you take a look at these in the original language, they too will be described as ACTUAL beasts and a whore. So if you apply the rule that the mark of the beast HAS to be a physical mark because of the word, then you have to apply that rule to the rest of Revelation.

Mark of the BeastNow if you were to ask those people who support the theory of the mark being this RFID chip, or any other physical mark, if they believed we will be seeing ACTUAL beasts and a whore riding a beast forcing the world to worship them. I am sure that they would respond by saying ... "Don't be silly, that is SYMBOLIC language." ... And the same applies with the mark.

Friend, the mark of the beast does not HAVE to be a physical mark. And with the rest of the following reasons, we will show you why it CANNOT be this RFID chip or any other physical device.

3 - Where's the Deception?
Let me give you a few verses which tells us what Satan is going to do in the end times:

2 Thessalonians 2:9-11 ...'Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.'

Revelation 12:9 ...'And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.'

Revelation 13:14 ...'And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.'

Revelation 18:23 ...'for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.'

Revelation 19:20 ...'And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image.'

Now have a REALLY good think about this for a moment. Not only does the vast majority of the professed Christian world believe that the mark of the beast will be a physical mark, like the RFID chip, or an ID card, or tattoo. Even the un-believing world has some 'knowledge' about the mark of the beast, which they relate to a physical mark like the RFID chip. So I ask you, and please think carefully about this .... where is the DECEPTION?. Did you read the above verses from the Word of God concerning Satan's tactics? He is ALL about deception, and the final battle in these last days will contain Satan's greatest deceptions of all.

The RFID Chip is not a deception. But I tell you what is ... the WHOLE world is waiting for the RFID chip or some physical mark to be enforced. THAT is the deception!

4 - The Mark is all to do With Worship
The many people who focus on the RFID chip or some other technology device being the mark of the beast tend to forget about the spiritual aspect of being a Christian. Does the Bible say we are warring against physical enemies? No, the Bible is very clear on what we are up against:

Ephesians 6:12 ...'For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.'

You see, our battle is not against the physical things of this world. Our battle is a SPIRITUAL one. Satan is not so much looking to gain control of our wallets. He us ultimately looking to gain control of our MINDS. He wants to drive a wedge between us and Christ Jesus. And how does he do that? By stopping us from giving TRUE worship to our Creator God. Look at what the final warning to the world is in Revelation 13 and 14:

Revelation 13: vs 4 ... And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? ... vs 8 ...And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world ... vs 11-12 ...And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth ... and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast ... vs 15 ...and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.'

Revelation 14: ...'vs 6-7 ...And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven ... Saying with a loud voice ... worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters ... vs 9-10 ...If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand ... The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God

I think the mark is all to do with worship don't you? This is the final warning to the world, and it is a warning about worshipping the beast system and a call to TRUE WORSHIP. The three angels of Revelation 14 don't just say ... "DON'T TAKE THE MARK" ... They are telling us to remember our Creator and worship Him ONLY who created the heavens and the earth. They are pointing us back to creation and telling us to give our allegiance to the ONE true Creator God, Jehovah!

Now I ask you. How does getting a physical mark STOP us from giving TRUE worship to our Creator? It doesn't! Which is why the mark of the beast CANNOT be a physical mark.

Now some people claim that these RFID chips could be able to alter your mind and thoughts and in some way take control. But God would never allow this to happen on a mass scale, because He wouldn't allow our free choice to be taken away from us. If we are not able to make a free conscious decision with regards to our worship and allegiance, then the judgment of the mark would not be a fair one. The mark of the beast is all about a free conscious decision by each and every person as to who we give our allegiance and worship to.

5 - RFID Chip Can be Forced Upon Us
Let's look at the follow scenarios:

Someone is taken into hospital for an operation and during the operation the doctors insert an RFID chip into the person. Now according to the many people who believe the RFID chip to be the mark of the beast, this person who went to hospital, NOW HAS THE MARK OF THE BEAST, and is going to be lost!

Police ForceAnother scenario: The military take control of a town and force their way into each and every home, injecting (somehow) an RFID chip into every person. There is nothing that the people can do. Some make a run for it, but are captured and forced to have this RFID chip. The same goes for any other physical mark. They can be forced upon us if the governments decided, and there is little we could do about it, because as TRUE Christians, we should not fight back.

So is God going to reject people for having a physical mark forced upon them? No, not a chance! Because we serve a loving God who is fair and just in all His ways. And not only that, any one of us could have a physical mark forced upon us, but then we could continue to worship God in spirit and truth, which is what God is most interested in (John 4:24). Why would God be concerned about us having a physical mark like an RFID chip or ID card forced upon us? As long as we continue to serve God and keep His commandments and worship Him in spirit and truth, then God is happy with us, no matter what kind of "marking" the governments decide to place upon us.

Remember what the apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 8:4? That food offered to idols is nothing to worry about for a strong Christian, because the idol is nothing and we know there is only One God and it is Him we still worship. The same applies to a physical mark. It is NOTHING, and God is only concerned with our true WORSHIP of Him in spirit and truth.

6 - The Mark, OR the Name OR the Number of the Beast
Revelation 13:17 confirms the following: "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, OR the name of the beast, OR the number of his name."

This verse shows us that this issue is FAR deeper than a mere physical mark like an RFID chip or ID card. Many people place all their focus upon this RFID chip or some other technology device. And yet Revelation 13 reveals there is more to this than just the "mark". We are shown here that ANY affiliation with the beast, ANY kind of support or agreement we make with the beast, apart from the "mark" will see us condemned!

Do you see this? There will be many people who don't take the actual mark of the beast and yet they will still be lost. Because they will in some way still be on the wrong side. In the last days, there will be only two groups of people. Those who are for Christ Jesus and those who are for the beast and Satan. Now if you are not on the side of Christ, then you are automatically placed on the side of the beast and Satan, and you will be lost. Even if you don't take the mark of the beast.

For instance, what would you have if you had the 'name of the beast'? Well, let's use the Bible to interpret. In Exodus 34:5-7 we see that God descended down to Moses on the mount and 'proclaimed the NAME of the Lord'. And what did the Lord proclaim?:

Exodus 34:5-7 ...'And the Lord descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the Lord. And the Lord passed by before him, and proclaimed, The Lord, The Lord God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty.'

Do you see what 'NAME' God proclaimed to Moses? He proclaimed His CHARACTER! So it will be with the beast. Those in the last days who have the 'name of the beast' will have the CHARACTER of the beast.

7 - Those Who Don't Take the Mark are Keeping God's Commandments
This is a vital point to understand, and one that the majority of people completely miss. Revelation 14 contains the three angels messages (which you can read about here). And those three angels tell us that we need to worship the true God. That Babylon is fallen. And that we should not take the mark of the beast. Now here is the vital point. Right after the third angel warns against receiving the mark, he says ... "Here is the patience of the saints, here are they which keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus."

Wow! So who are the one's who do NOT take the beast's mark? The one's who are keeping the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus Christ. So how do you fit a physical mark like the RFID chip into this? You cannot! To not take the mark means to keep God's commandments and follow in the footstep of Christ. Which means the mark of the beast is to do with the BREAKING of commandments of God or not following in Christ's footsteps.

Friend, the mark of the beast cannot be any kind of technology device. The beast's mark is a SPIRITUAL mark, as this is a SPIRITUAL issue, and our war against Satan is a SPIRITUAL war. Don't get me wrong. Technology WILL be used to help enforce the mark of the beast. But in of itself, the RFID, or ID Card or Tattoo, or whatever else CANNOT be the mark. The mark HAS to be a spiritual one. Which is why we receive it in the hand OR the forehead. And do you know where we make our decisions? In the front of our forehead. So those who decide to go along with the beast's mark will receive it (spiritually) in their forehead. And those who don't accept it, but continue to break God's commandments and reject Christ Jesus, will receive the mark (spiritually) in their hand, which represents their ACTIONS against God.

We will have to make a decision one day soon, whether to be on God's side and receive His seal, or to be on Satan's side and receive the mark of the beast. And that decision will decide your eternal destiny!

I've been looking for information about this chip and I hope they'll take you further
This explains it perfectly!!!
I should read ahead before I post comments lol
 

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You're right about that..
And now that i see.. We will never know when it happens .. Means.. We will ourselves get tired of the stuff they put out on a daily basis.. And move on with our lives but they will still be here..

Well anyways.. They sure are having a comeback soon.. And probably already made songs for it too..
So yeah.. They aren't going anywhere soon..
 

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Umm Yeah ..
And after another 7 years.. I don't think they will be able to escape at all..

Remorse might be gone.. But.. Atleast one or two of them may realize what they done .. Some already look done with themselves..
It's never too late right? Until you're breathing..
 

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If you go on twitter you see Army making excuses for their bad vocals. And It's the same with Jimin using atomic bomb shirt. Armys keep making excuses for him

Army are braiwashed and they dont accept any negative comment about BTS
I know this is true because when I was Army I used to get very upset when someone bashed BTS and I defended them like crazy!!!
But since I stopped listening to BTS music my mentality changed a lot!!!

Armys tried to hack accounts in this thread because they can't accept any person saying negative things about BTS!! they come here all the time making new accounts and writting in weird languages trying to scare the users and stop this thread
Why do they act like that? because they feel a huge need to protect BTS, they are under their spell (spells that BTS puts in their music)

If Armys stopped listening to BTS songs for a week they would notice a huge change in their mentality!!
 

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What sort of a life do these id0ls have.. Getting fame.. For some years only?
Some years?
Is life worth it?
they will be getting money to settle down i guess..
But.. I find it saddening.. How they will let them go... And be forgotten ..

After all the spotlight and being on cameras all the time. Getting loved by millions around the world.. will they be able to live as normal humans after that? I doubt it.. They will miss it all and up being depressed after not getting it all.

Wait till b1gh1t gets a newbie group... Same will happen to them too
 

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What sort of a life do these id0ls have.. Getting fame.. For some years only?
Some years?
Is life worth it?
they will be getting money to settle down i guess..
But.. I find it saddening.. How they will let them go... And be forgotten ..

After all the spotlight and being on cameras all the time. Getting loved by millions around the world.. will they be able to live as normal humans after that? I doubt it.. They will miss it all and up being depressed after not getting it all.

Wait till b1gh1t gets a newbie group... Same will happen to them too
I must add I am feeling sorry especially for Jungkook that lost his teen years overworking, freedom privated and forced to do their dirty orders. So young.. how to be this cruel.. he was naive and not able to protect himself
 
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Soon we will get some spoilers for the next comeback on their MAMA performance.
I hope they won't get back to HYYH concept.. it will be personally hard to me to resist listening to their songs..
Deni have you seen billie ellish new video with all the black goo drinking and coming out of her eyes.. Much worse but in a same way black goo came out of V's mask in singularity and jamal in Bst

A call for an uprising made a video on black goo recently because of her video..that vid It's too creepy..

And today i was just going through YouTube suggestion and these she was singing in korea... I mean korea? Out of all countries why in korea?

Something is up with this music industry in korea.. Something very dark
 

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BTS performance in Japan TV show Cancelled


japanese fans still support them but Japanese media might be different story. Bighit still give no apology
No the media supports them as well as the diehard fans..
The problem is with the security now in japan..
As some groups are already planning protests against them..
If the groups know their timings and locations and performances .. Things can go down and someone might end up getting hurt..

They already had a full promotion on Japanese media of their Japanese mv.. The problem is something else now.. The security mainly.. The safety first rule
 
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Deni have you seen billie ellish new video with all the black goo drinking and coming out of her eyes.. Much worse but in a same way black goo came out of V's mask in singularity and jamal in Bst

A call for an uprising made a video on black goo recently because of her video..that vid It's too creepy..

And today i was just going through YouTube suggestion and these she was singing in korea... I mean korea? Out of all countries why in korea?

Something is up with this music industry in korea.. Something very dark
I’ve seen it what a satanic and creepy song wow
Also the poor girl she’s in her teens I was watching a video of her and she looks in an absolute state he eyes are screaming sadness and she looks absolutely broken and exhausted
Korea’s Entertainment is deep in
About the black goo thing
This video is interesting and talks about how they want to make the matter to change the shape of things and how this is a definition under trans human key terms their agenda for everyone to look the same again for example if they are able to have a matter which will change the shape of not just materialistic objects but also humans then Eureka they have found a way for everyone to look the same
These are the definitions of the coloured goos:
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The green one was used in bst on Jimin right now read the definition “used for population control of humans” and “eco terrorist groups”
So blatant
 

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I’ve seen it what a satanic and creepy song wow
Also the poor girl she’s in her teens I was watching a video of her and she looks in an absolute state he eyes are screaming sadness and she looks absolutely broken and exhausted
Korea’s Entertainment is deep in
About the black goo thing
This video is interesting and talks about how they want to make the matter to change the shape of things and how this is a definition under trans human key terms their agenda for everyone to look the same again for example if they are able to have a matter which will change the shape of not just materialistic objects but also humans then Eureka they have found a way for everyone to look the same
These are the definitions of the coloured goos:
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The green one was used in bst on Jimin right now read the definition “used for population control of humans” and “eco terrorist groups”
So blatant
Nice post ..
The green goo fits so much well with beetees .
Because they already supporting the agenda 2030..
And their logo was changed to those Georgia stones. On which they want very less population with one government
 
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