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He claimed he only received a loan of 1m from daddy so he lied, again, for one, but the point is he is no financial genius or self made man. I would wager that given 60m dollars anyone on this board could be a billionaire.
Fine. He's a liar. Hillary is a liar. Ron Paul is a liar. Bobby Bowden is was a liar. Should I be shocked?
 
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Fine. He's a liar. Hillary is a liar. Ron Paul is a liar. Bobby Bowden is was a liar. Should I be shocked?
But really, when you are already a millionaire at 8, who do you represent but the elite? I just don’t see how people believe he is taking on the elite when he is the definition of elite.

Every one of his policies has benefited them but he gets praised as fighting them, it’s beyond reason.
 

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No, but none of those people are President, are they?
Ok, Bill and Barack are liars. Al (VP) is a hard core liar. Bush 41 and 43 (hope I'm counting right) Liars. Maybe Reagan wasn't "lying". But I should be shocked. Shocked, I tell ya. Now?
 
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Ok, Bill and Barack are liars. Al (VP) is a hard core liar. Bush 41 and 43 (hope I'm counting right) Liars. Maybe Reagan wasn't "lying". But I should be shocked. Shocked, I tell ya. Now?
Ok they aren’t President now, yes they all lied but that isn’t an excuse now.

Btw Ronny lied every time he spoke.
 
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No, it's not. But not an excuse for you to follow the other side either.

So when my Dad had Alzheimer's, he was just lying every time he spoke?
I don’t “follow the other side” lol and you clearly don’t understand my politics.

At the earliest Ronny was having Alzheimer’s signs in 86 but it was probably later considering he lived a long time after is initial diagnosis in the early 90s, for reference it’s about 8 to 10 years from diagnoses to death as I’m sure you know, so the Gipper has plenty of time to lie while in his right mind.

I’m sorry about your dad, it’s an awful way to go I watched it with my Grandma. I hope that if I live that long and get it and it’s not cured that I’ll be allowed to kill myself before it progresses.
 

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Ok, Bill and Barack are liars. Al (VP) is a hard core liar. Bush 41 and 43 (hope I'm counting right) Liars. Maybe Reagan wasn't "lying". But I should be shocked. Shocked, I tell ya. Now?
And...Mr. Obama signed the bill that made it legal in the USA to use propaganda making it okay to lie to its citizens. And folks wonder why Hillary did not win for a continuation os policy.
 

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I don’t “follow the other side” lol and you clearly don’t understand my politics.

At the earliest Ronny was having Alzheimer’s signs in 86 but it was probably later considering he lived a long time after is initial diagnosis in the early 90s, for reference it’s about 8 to 10 years from diagnoses to death as I’m sure you know, so the Gipper has plenty of time to lie while in his right mind.

I’m sorry about your dad, it’s an awful way to go I watched it with my Grandma. I hope that if I live that long and get it and it’s not cured that I’ll be allowed to kill myself before it progresses.
So all politicians lie for personal gain. When should I be shocked? I'm still waiting for that affordable health care.
 
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So all politicians lie for personal gain. When should I be shocked? I'm still waiting for that affordable health care.
Why are you fixating on shocked? I just pointed out that your savior lied, again, and is through and through “elite” it’s just bullshit he’s a shitty business man who bankrupted everything he touched but made a few billion because he had 60m in capital from daddy, he’s screwed his contractors and workers repeatedly but somehow he is a modern day King Solomon taking on the dark forces of the elite? Get real man and stop throwing other Presidents out as if I have ever supported any of them.

ACA wasn’t great to be honest but one of those plans was better and more affordable than what most companies offer unskilled workers and it spared a lot of worthy people going to school for valuable things from worrying about an additional financial headache by being allowed to stay on their parents insurance until 26.

There’s a way to give everyone affordable healthcare but you won’t go for it because it calls for ending capitalism :)
 

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your savior
No, not y anything. Just because I disagree with you does not mean I agree with someone else.
ACA wasn’t great
ACA was/is a joke. Personal experience.
parents insurance until 26.
That part I agreed with, but it just meant 26 was the new 18-20
There’s a way to give everyone affordable healthcare but you won’t go for it because it calls for ending capitalism
I don't mind the single payer part, It's the single provider part that scares the hell out of me.
 
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Ok if you want to keep it on this thread,fine.

Trump has called for dealers to be executed and when a crisis happens you’ll see true authoritarianism, you can use the excuse “oh you can only point to executive orders that all presidents do” as some kind of excuse seeing as he was elected to do better lol I know you’ll be wearing a brown shirt when shit gets real.

You can pretend to be someone else and mask who you are to others,but I know exactly who you are.
 

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Ok if you want to keep it on this thread,fine.
i would. thanks. its only fair to the OP.

Trump has called for dealers to be executed and when a crisis happens you’ll see true authoritarianism, you can use the excuse “oh you can only point to executive orders that all presidents do” as some kind of excuse seeing as he was elected to do better lol I know you’ll be wearing a brown shirt when shit gets real.
You can pretend to be someone else and mask who you are to others, but I know exactly who you are.

not in favor of dealers or anyone being executed. too many times people who are executed end up being found innocent later through DNA tests and mistaken identities.
trump may have said that he supports the filipino president executing drug dealers and their tough stance, but nothing has been done about it.

Trump’s support for executing drug dealers, citing the success of the policy in more authoritarian regimes, created a huge splash. But the death penalty is, theoretically, already on the books for certain “drug kingpins” who traffic in quantities on the order of hundreds of kilograms of heroin or cocaine, due to a 1988 law that was expanded in 1994. There is also a multitude of state and federal statutes that allow for the death penalty for drug dealers when someone dies as a result of using their wares.

As a practical matter, however, no one has ever been sentenced to death under any of these laws. They are likely unconstitutional under current Supreme Court precedent. In 2008’s Kennedy v. Louisiana, the High Court found it a violation of the Eighth Amendment’s ban on “cruel and unusual punishment” to execute a man convicted of raping, but not killing, a child. The case built on 1977’s Coker v. Georgia, which found the same for an adult rapist.


https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/20/sessions-gives-nod-trumps-drug-dealer-death-penalty-already-law/

i dont care what trumps view is-- i am not in favor of drug dealers being executed. now, back to ironing my brown shirts...
 
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i would. thanks. its only fair to the OP.




not in favor of dealers or anyone being executed. too many times people who are executed end up being found innocent later through DNA tests and mistaken identities.
trump may have said that he supports the filipino president executing drug dealers and their tough stance, but nothing has been done about it.

Trump’s support for executing drug dealers, citing the success of the policy in more authoritarian regimes, created a huge splash. But the death penalty is, theoretically, already on thebooks for certain “drug kingpins” who traffic in quantities on the order of hundreds of kilograms of heroin or cocaine, due to a 1988 law that was expanded in 1994. There is also a multitude of state and federal statutes that allow for the death penalty for drug dealers when someone dies as a result of using their wares.

As a practical matter, however, no one has ever been sentenced to death under any of these laws. They are likely unconstitutional under current Supreme Court precedent. In 2008’s Kennedy v. Louisiana, the High Court found it a violation of the Eighth Amendment’s ban on “cruel and unusual punishment” to execute a man convicted of raping, but not killing, a child. The case built on 1977’s Coker v. Georgia, which found the same for an adult rapist.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/20/sessions-gives-nod-trumps-drug-dealer-death-penalty-already-law/

i dont care what trumps view is-- i am not in favor of drug dealers being executed. now, back to ironing my brown shirts...
Whatever, once Kavanaugh gets appointed whose to say that anything Trumpolini says isn’t law?

You support a guy who is an authoritarian by every meaning of the word, again you can pretend otherwise, or that support is nuanced but it won’t work on me because again, Polymoog, I know what you are.
 
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