Trumped

[Helioform]

I know. It was spin to the right (Trump) and spin to the left (WaPo/liberal MSM)

From the link
“Russian 'collusion' was just an excuse by the Democrats for having lost the Election!”

Trump repeatedly claims the Russia investigation is made up, but the information on Russian efforts to sway the 2016 election was developed by the intelligence community and published in a declassified report, in which the agencies said they had "high confidence" it was correct.

"high confidence" is not the same as certain and sway is not the same as collusion. It's spin city. I don't care what either of them say. They're both liars.

You're just cherry picking now... and it's still misleading based on the facts that we know. I'd take the word of the intelligence agencies over this lying buffoon any day anyway.

 

[Awoken2]

I'm actually going to go with...

C) A Slovenian fashion model who viewed marrying an american "billionaire" as an easy job, only one client to please, but is now stuck with this pompous dotard living in a glass house and having the fact that he cuckolds her put on display for the world.

...true. I've seen hostages with more content expressions...it's like she's come to the realisation that her husband's billions referred to his credit card bills.

 

[Lurker]

You're just cherry picking now.

I just picked the first one.

I'd take the word of the intelligence agencies

The same agencies that said WMD?

 

[Helioform]

The same agencies that said WMD?

Not the same situation. That was to foment a war. They have nothing to gain from lying about external collusion concerning the election of a president. Unless you think that Trump really isn't "one of them", but that is laughable knowing his wealth and his connections. This is Nixon all over again, but much worse.

 

[Lurker]

Not the same situation. That was to foment a war. They have nothing to gain from lying about external collusion concerning the election of a president. Unless you think that Trump really isn't "one of them", but that is laughable knowing his wealth and his connections. This is Nixon all over again, but much worse.

So they lied then, but we can trust them now?

 

[Helioform]

So they lied then, but we can trust them now?

There is a reason for the lying like I said. They have nothing to gain from going after Trump without any reason. This is all infighting between elite factions and various nations.

And you need to realize that these agencies are mostly made of hard working people who are there to defend the country. What happens often is that they are infiltrated from outside to undermine the population's confidence in them, especially when they are nearly broken due to intense mistrust after years of incompetence/corruption at the top of the chain of command. Russia is adept at this, knowing the KGB, so it makes sense that Trump would be their puppet.

Trump was in my view placed there to undermine and destroy trust in all american institutions, like the media for example, which was already being mistrusted. He is also against NATO, another one of Russia's foes, amazingly.

So instead of reforming these institutions, they end up being totally destroyed and replaced by something worse.

 

[The Zone]

I'll assume this is in reference to me.

So what you are basically saying is anybody who calls out Trump for being a 33 Degree Scottish Rite Free Mason, narcissistic, lying, cheating, border line psychotic sleazeball cannot then try and highlight the nefarious methods used by the mainstream music industry to influence society because some of those music artists dislike Trump?

Don't you think it's one hell of a coincidence that now the biggest beneficiary of the "fake news" line is Trump himself? He virtually invented the phrase!....handy if you have a graveyards worth of skeletons in your closet wouldn't you agree?

If you think Trump gives a damn about anybody but himself you are a fool. He would happily sell his own Grandmother if the price was right.



...by the time you realise that, your wife will have PTSD, you will have a turd in your bed and your car will be missing.

...then what you gonna do?

Really now .... if he cares about himself so much then why be president and on the road to hurricane ravished places, etc. we all know trump has an ego but you continue to miss a lot as does the group of five liberals. not all the anwers lie in music videos, bro. and it is not some artist dislike him, it is all of them as well as the deep state, globalist and hollywood noobs. this is just to deep for me, lol. you are trying to make a point not even realizing what it is for even if others here were to concede. we get it. some of you hate trump. you are an expert and anybody with a take other than yours is an idiot. you need for this to be real. btw, time will tell who has a turd in their bed and I will let time be the judge. At least you spend some time on other subjects like the videos, while others just hate on trump 24/7 while ignoring their countries plight, not to mention standing up for the MSM as if they were a forum plant.

 

[The Zone]

There is a reason for the lying like I said. They have nothing to gain from going after Trump without any reason. This is all infighting between elite factions and various nations.

And you need to realize that these agencies are mostly made of hard working people who are there to defend the country. What happens often is that they are infiltrated from outside to undermine the population's confidence in them, especially when they are nearly broken due to intense mistrust after years of incompetence/corruption at the top of the chain of command. Russia is adept at this, knowing the KGB, so it makes sense that Trump would be their puppet.

Trump was in my view placed there to undermine and destroy trust in all american institutions, like the media for example, which was already being mistrusted. He is also against NATO, another one of Russia's foes, amazingly.

So instead of reforming these institutions, they end up being totally destroyed and replaced by something worse.

so you think Trump was magically placed yet deny the existence of a deep state. wow, you have all the answers. we can all go home now. now trump is a KGB puppet... LMAO. You are so damned clueless and in denail of anything the MSM does not tell you. Trump is destroying American institutions, huh, LMAO. He is building them up, Captain Clueless. You do realize you want globalism don't you....Russia has to fall for that to happen as does the US. They are the last two countries standing in its way. Then everyone can think like you and the merry MSM will never be torn down as you say, You defend the media at every turn and beg for one world thought.

 

[Awoken2]

.. if he cares about himself so much then why be president and on the road to hurricane ravished places,

You obviously couldn't recognise a megalomaniac if one came up and slapped you upside the head....it's called PR you numbnut, they have to go to dupe idiots like you into thinking they give a shit.

we all know trump has an ego but you continue to miss a lot as does the group of five liberals

So you've labelled people and put them into groups? Did you make a special chart for that?...bit trollish if you ask me.

. not all the anwers lie in music videos, bro

No but some do, but they go straight over your head...and I ain't your bro either!

this is just to deep for me,

....(he says, stood in a puddle)

you are trying to make a point not even realizing what it is for even if others here were to concede. we get it.

And who's the we you are referring to? I don't see anybody here putting you forward as their spokesman, you struggle to coherently represent yourself so representing anybody else here may be a tad ambitious (not inclusive of Aero)

some of you hate trump. you are an expert and anybody with a take other than yours is an idiot

As sweeping generalisation go, that's pretty impressive....even for an idiot.

You appear to be more preoccupied with other people's posts than you do about your own content, as of yet you appear to have revealed absolutely nothing...and I've been here nearly 8 months now.... I won't hold my breath.

 

[justjess]

Why be president? Well the marketing for his name recognition just got a free major boost, he’s able to set the agenda to cut taxes for himself and his friends too. He can amend regulations on business to benefit himself as well. His organization was able to close a few deals they had been working on for a long time right after he was given the republican nomination. Plus there’s the whole ego boost thing.

I’ve never seen you criticize him once zone. But you spit a lot of venom at those who do for whatever reason.

 

[The Zone]

You obviously couldn't recognise a megalomaniac if one came up and slapped you upside the head....it's called PR you numbnut, they have to go to dupe idiots like you into thinking they give a shit.



So you've labelled people and put them into groups? Did you make a special chart for that?...bit trollish if you ask me.



No but some do, but they go straight over your head...and I ain't your bro either!



....(he says, stood in a puddle)



And who's the we you are referring to? I don't see anybody here putting you forward as their spokesman, you struggle to coherently represent yourself so representing anybody else here may be a tad ambitious (not inclusive of Aero)



As sweeping generalisation go, that's pretty impressive....even for an idiot.

You appear to be more preoccupied with other people's posts than you do about your own content, as of yet you appear to have revealed absolutely nothing...and I've been here nearly 8 months now.... I won't hold my breath.

what a joke. you say i am preoccupied with others posts yet here you are going over every point i made. and once again you revert back to insults, name calling etc breaking forum rules as you go.

then you bring other posters you've had issues with like aero into it, seriously, you have a lot of hang ups and an inability to let anything go once you feel slighted.

as for a group, considering you stand in a circle with the same few liking each others posts constitutes fairness in point out said group. others here on occasion have discussions and likes from other people than their comfy group of hata's.

you do not discuss anything. you create a thread on music videos and then hang out with trump haters and fwiw, you can go ape shit crazy with insults and never get under my skin. argue the points and let go of the personal attacks. share facts, not accusations. maybe you need a little hit of a dopamine like from another poster or something, but please do not even try to tell a soul here they do not get it with so many issues of your own.

oh... and exactly... you have been here eight months while some of us have been here on the other forums before this and others for years. yet, you think you have a grip on things in such a short time. anyone who has been here for a long time does not feel the need to be on constant defense and can get along with those they've disagreed with in the past in other threads. that skill completley eludes you and you make everything personal. like i said, your hang up, sis.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

I think it’s hilarious that anyone thinks a President going to a hurricane zone in anyway proves empathy lol, every one of them has toured a disaster zone it’s literally the easiest thing to do.

How’s Puerto Rico by the way?

 

[The Zone]

Why be president? Well the marketing for his name recognition just got a free major boost, he’s able to set the agenda to cut taxes for himself and his friends too. He can amend regulations on business to benefit himself as well. His organization was able to close a few deals they had been working on for a long time right after he was given the republican nomination. Plus there’s the whole ego boost thing.

I’ve never seen you criticize him once zone. But you spit a lot of venom at those who do for whatever reason.

you are sseeing what you want to see jess. i have criticized him on numerous occasions which is in th body of my work. i just do not blindly criticize him for every wrong in america. his name is big enough, he is rich enoung to need nothing. any regulations he changes can be changed again by the next president. ego, agreed. but people hang up on trump is ridiculous. it is okay to hate him., etc. it is foolish to act like he is the devil though for he is not. he aint pretty but he does not have us in a f'n war either. my criticism can be found in past posts, but can you show me where you have ever said anything good about his policies....

and the venom you speak of, lets talk about that. maybe you have not noticed where it started in that some attack peoples posts on a regular basis,.newbies, of course. but you are right, the rest of us should back out of this thread and just let it roll on as it will. with no retorts maybe people will realize how silly constant rants look. that is it for me, the rants and the blame as if he is the say all be all of the worlds problems. trump did not corrupt the world we live in after he was elected. and fwiw, you just get caught in the middle of the venom where other posters have made things nasty already. to stop in and just see that must be disappointing considering we get along in many ways in the past.

 

[The Zone]

I think it’s hilarious that anyone thinks a President going to a hurricane zone in anyway proves empathy lol, every one of them has toured a disaster zone it’s literally the easiest thing to do.

How’s Puerto Rico by the way?

you can do better than that. it is easy to pick out one thing while avoiding others. bottom line is he can do no right in some people eyes and that is your right to see it as such. at least you avoided the petty insults. the issue is are you a judge of empathy... nope. but your opinion is what this country is all about, freedom of speech and right now, we still have it. okay, work to do, let the insults and name calling begin from others. i will check in later to see yall get it off your chest.

 

[Colonel Valerio]

you can do better than that. it is easy to pick out one thing while avoiding others. bottom line is he can do no right in some people eyes and that is your right to see it as such. at least you avoided the petty insults. the issue is are you a judge of empathy... nope. but your opinion is what this country is all about, freedom of speech and right now, we still have it. okay, work to do, let the insults and name calling begin from others. i will check in later to see yall get it off your chest.

He hasn’t done anything good Zone. He hasn’t got us out of any wars, increased the funding for military more than anyone else, increased the deficit faster than anyone. It’s only a matter of time before he plays the war card anyway.

 

[Awoken2]

like i said, your hang up, sis.

I know your probably out on your skateboard right now but you inadvertently left a personal insult at the end of your post. Couldn't stop yourself could you?

 

[Colonel Valerio]

I know your probably out on your skateboard right now but you inadvertently left a personal insult at the end of your post. Couldn't stop yourself could you?

The Zone has a nasty little habit of using “sis” as an insult, as if being a woman somehow invalidates your post anyway.

 

[Awoken2]

The Zone has a nasty little habit of using “sis” as an insult, as if being a woman somehow invalidates your post anyway.

Well with him being so pro trump I suppose a certain degree of misogyny comes with the territory....they're ok for pussy grabbing but have no value in any type of debate.

Think he's nailed his colours to the mast on that one!

 

[The Zone]

you two pro nouns are too much, the sis was becasue he told me not to call him bro. i see that as funny, myself. notice how awoken mirrored what i said to take away from his name calling and insults. better watch the warnings and play within the rules, and, btw, using sis is not an insult to normal people who do not identify as a jackass neutralized bi malefemalethingy. wait, is awoken a sis or is colonel tmt.... i do not think anyone other than a pc nut job sees my sis comment as an issue, especially if you actually sponge what is being said back and forth.

btw, while you two were babbling i mowed two large yards, took care of real world business and well, it is okay to multi task and not spend all day worrying about mean old zone or trump. try life. i am still not using your preferred pro noun, captain.

 

[Awoken2]

btw, using sis is not an insult to normal people who do not identify as a jackass neutralized bi maleofemalethingy.

Incredible level of maturity you've demonstrated there, true colours shown.

I rest my case m'lord.