JoChris
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https://www.gotquestions.org/first-Jew.htmlCool website!
So when was the first instance of "Judean" (יְהוּדִ֔י) being changed to "Jew"?
https://www.gotquestions.org/first-Jew.htmlCool website!
So when was the first instance of "Judean" (יְהוּדִ֔י) being changed to "Jew"?
False.https://www.gotquestions.org/first-Jew.html
"The word Jew is much more commonplace in the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esther."
You can get on the web and find people that agree with you on the subject, There are several different views. I choose to agree with the Messianic Jews I fellowship with. It is just like reading that Christ birth line includes Rehab the Harlot (Josh. 2:1; Matt. 1:5) In whom was a Gentile, but most people denies it, even thou it is in Scripture, But it goes to show the Grace of God....not by works, but by Faith in Him.That makes much more sense.
But the worship of idols is not what makes one a gentile either. But if you have a point to make by calling Abraham, Noah, Adam etc.. gentiles (even though the prophets in the bible would never call them that) I'll leave you to your thread..
Hi Jo, I'm not sure what your point is? What do you think Iewes means in the 1611 edition?The word "jew" wasn't in the 1611 bible. The word "iewe" was though. Different lettering etc.
Want proof? https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/search1611.php?hs=1&q=Iewes
Want photographical proof from an original copy ? Look at bottom right hand corner of p.1253 and find King of the JEWES https://archive.org/stream/1611TheAuthorizedKingJamesBible/1611 The Authorized King James Bible#page/n1253
This anti-Semitic information is the result of Benjamin H. Freedom In whom was a Jew and converted to Catholicism. He also denies the Holocaust.Today ignorant people think "Jew" means 'a Judean' like Jesus. It does not. Today that word refers only to a person who follows Talmudic Judiaism, which did not even exist until the Talmud was first codified around 400 A.D.
You understand that the j didn’t exist in the 1611 bible and it wasn’t until the revisions in the 17th century that this word existed so Freedman is correct.This anti-Semitic information is the result of Benjamin H. Freedom In whom was a Jew and converted to Catholicism. He also denies the Holocaust.
Benjamin H. Freedman - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_H._Freedman
Benjamin Harrison Freedman (1890 – May 1984) was an American businessman, Holocaust denier, and vocal anti-Zionist. Born in a Jewish family, he converted from Judaism to Roman Catholicism. Outside of political activism, Freedman was a partner in a dermatological institute and investor for small businesses.
- Biography
Freedman was, from 1925 to 1937, a partner with Samuel D....- Activities
He was a financial backer of the author Conde McGinley,...- Here is his anti-Semitic essay:
History of God's Holy Bible and the so-called JewsAnd of course, Anti-Semitic's are going to support this view. Do you believe tha the Holocaust happened?
www.biblebelievers.org.au/jew.htm
In these 18th century editions with revisions the word "Jew" appeared for the first time in any English translations. The word "Jew" as it was used in the 18th century editions has since continued in use in all the editions of the New Testament in the English language. The use of the word "Jew" was thus stabilized. . .
Hi rain, It is not the spelling that is in question...no matter how you spell it, the nomenclature is still the same. The word, Jew was originally meant for the tribe of Judea and Benjamites of the Southern kingdom and then became a standard for all Israelites. The German's Called the Jews, "Juden", Which meant Jew. None of this has to do with our Salvation. Freedman claims Jesus was not even a Jew and it is false and we are duped.You understand that the j didn’t exist in the 1611 bible and it wasn’t until the revisions in the 17th century that this word existed so Freedman is correct.
I was saying iewe = jew, like color= colour, or sayeth = says.Hi Jo, I'm not sure what your point is? What do you think Iewes means in the 1611 edition?
Yes people can find other people that agree with them on a subject (including me) but on this one, the position makes no sense. No way Moses says Abraham was a gentile or that the Israelites came from Gentiles. Now would he say Abraham was a stranger/foreigner to the land he came across? Yes. But would he refer to him as a gentile during a time where gentiles meant outsiders of Israel? Not at all.You can get on the web and find people that agree with you on the subject, There are several different views. I choose to agree with the Messianic Jews I fellowship with. It is just like reading that Christ birth line includes Rehab the Harlot (Josh. 2:1; Matt. 1:5) In whom was a Gentile, but most people denies it, even thou it is in Scripture, But it goes to show the Grace of God....not by works, but by Faith in Him.
The better question would be was he called a "Jew" when he was living? That answer of course being no...I was saying iewe = jew, like color= colour, or sayeth = says.
Therefore Jesus king of the iewes = Jesus king of the jews, disproving the ridiculous claim that Jesus was not called a jew in the 1611 bible, therefore Jesus was not a jew.
Yes, but all men come from women. But I understand your point.And in regards to Rahab, the seed is determined by the father not the mother. Which is why David was accepted in Israel despite his mother being a Moabite...
I hope you are not being serious.The better question would be was he called a "Jew" when he was living? That answer of course being no...
Just because people in the Media have huge egos doesn't make them boss. I think that the media and entertainment industry only accounts for like 1% of the total GDP in America. So you could own a mine, or a construction company and make more money.The Jews are the boss of this reality. I decoded this, in this video (no one normally picks up on this coded, double meaning speak, but I'm well aware of what's happening because I will not let them put me to sleep while I'm watching (camera movements meant only to put your brain in alpha state). You can watch from the time stamp I included, but if you want to start at the beginning, it clearly shows you the sleep commands (traditional hypnosis) they are always using:
There is not enough Ritalin in the world to make me believe this.The Jews are the boss of this reality. I decoded this, in this video (no one normally picks up on this coded, double meaning speak, but I'm well aware of what's happening because I will not let them put me to sleep while I'm watching (camera movements meant only to put your brain in alpha state). You can watch from the time stamp I included, but if you want to start at the beginning, it clearly shows you the sleep commands (traditional hypnosis) they are always using:
Doesn't take drugs, it takes intelligence and awareness:There is not enough Ritalin in the world to make me believe this.
It would for me.Doesn't take drugs
No, because that would literally be impossible.Search those ancestors' names in the Old Testament - were they Jews or not?