Did Evolution Really Happen?

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Red Sky at Morning said:
It is one huge faith commitment to place the complexity of nature and the sophistication of systems under the direction of a blindfolded, mapless driver
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I make no such commitment. Your hapless driver depends on the premise of an intended destination he somehow reached in spite of himself; that the world as we know it is like a paint-by-numbers masterwork that a donkey somehow perfectly slapped onto a canvas with its tail. What I have faith in is that one of a billion hapless drivers with no set destination is bound to eventually arrive somewhere; that with a billion blank canvases, that donkey is bound to eventually paint something.
 
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Evolution in terms of one species changing over millions of year into a completely different species has too many holes in it. Also, since it apparently takes millions of years we can't see the changes to monitor it or even say it happened.
 
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Kung Fu said:
Evolution in terms of one species changing over millions of year into a completely different species has too many holes in it. Also, since it apparently takes millions of years we can't see the changes to monitor it or even say it happened.
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But we have fossils of animals it happened to.
 
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mecca said:
but those could all be fake, let's not rule anything out here
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Many have been fake. Scientists throughout the years have always all of a sudden found the "missing link" but they were all fakes. Why fake so many findings of evolution of one species turning into a completely different species when it's a supposed fact?
 
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mecca said:
humans
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My point in a short way, was that for some, men with fancy man made titles (Dr./Archaelogist/Phd etc...) saying something means its true while for me, I think most institutions including scientific ones, are in existence to lead people to a certain conclusion (away from the truth) that those who control said institutions want them to be led to....

So when I see things such as "fossils" or "dinosaur bones" I usually ask how do we know they're real or if they're fake? Or when they say that theres more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth, how do we know/validate that? Or that the earth is less than a grain of sand in the whole universe? How do we validate any of these beliefs being true or false without referencing the very men that are trying to convince us or believe it themselves to be true? To me it takes just as much faith to follow them down that road, as it does to follow the road down the bible or any spiritual text except spiritual texts usually have things in them that you can personally verify yourself for you and your eyes only...
 
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mecca said:
yes they do
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I can't tell if you're being ignorant or lying straight through your teeth. If not then show me just ONE. Show me what it started as and then what it evolved into with the final product being a completely different species. Show me complete fossil records and full skeletons on said specie. I want to see the complete fossil transitions. Thank you in advance.
 
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KoncreteMind said:
My point in a short way, was that for some, men with fancy man made titles (Dr./Archaelogist/Phd etc...) saying something means its true while for me, I think most institutions including scientific ones, are in existence to lead people to a certain conclusion (away from the truth) that those who control said institutions want them to be led to....

So when I see things such as "fossils" or "dinosaur bones" I usually ask how do we know they're real or if they're fake? Or when they say that theres more stars in the universe than there are grains of sand on earth, how do we know/validate that? Or that the earth is less than a grain of sand in the whole universe? How do we validate any of these beliefs being true or false without referencing the very men that are trying to convince us or believe it themselves to be true? To me it takes just as much faith to follow them down that road, as it does to follow the road down the bible or any spiritual text except spiritual texts usually have things in them that you can personally verify yourself for you and your eyes only...
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In terms of fossils and dinosaur bones no comment. However, about the society following a bunch of men with white lab coats like sheep I completely agree with you.
 
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Kung Fu said:
I can't tell if you're being ignorant or lying straight through your teeth. If not then show me just ONE. Show me what it started as and then what it evolved into with the final product being a completely different species. Show me complete fossil records and full skeletons on said specie. I want to see the complete fossil transitions. Thank you in advance.
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http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03
 
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