BTS discussion thread

[whitetable]

Perhaps they are going to shoot for B0n Voy@g3 part 3?

 

[Chic]

Apart from this is a TaeKook fanmade analysis vid, what do u guys think bout Taehyung? He does seem off at the concert.

He's my 3rd fav, and I tend to overanalyze. I won't say much, but he does seem troubled. About what, who knows. Another fight backstage? Stress? Personal issues? The list could go on.
And as many times they have performed SD it shouldn't move him to [stifled] tears like that. Imo, he does look at the crowd lovingly though.

One more thing, he definitely has lost weight. Was it really only in 9 days?? Not only so, he came back with blond hair!

 

[ShiningCarat14]

He's my 3rd fav, and I tend to overanalyze. I won't say much, but he does seem troubled. About what, who knows. Another fight backstage? Stress? Personal issues? The list could go on.
And as many times they have performed SD it shouldn't move to [stifled] tears like that. Imo, he does look at the crowd lovingly though.

One more thing, he definitely has lost weight. Was it really only in 9 days?? Not only so, he came back with blond hair!

Poor V
I tend to overanalyse too lol and he’s my bias so I pay extra attention
Do you think they would starve them though he’s lost a lot of weight in 9 days and he was already skinny before I wonder how his metabolism is
So he’s been reprogrammed twice once after his grandmas passing and now same with Jin he was blonde in Fire there are so many similarities between these two recently
V looked sad when Jins grandma went the only member who had some type of emotion

 

[Anonymous]

Where must b4ngtans be heading to... It's a really private trip...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1010840150769745921

Theyre going for SBS Concert in Taipei if Im not mistaken. It was officially scheduled that they would attend but Bighit hasnt officially announce their departure time. So their flight to the concert was supposed to be a private one since it wasnt officially announced, that was was K Armys meant. Even if their schedule is official but since their flight is unofficial so it was supposed to be private.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1010833681642950657

 

[Hopeful]

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In the background it says "Pro memoria"
Well there's a song called Pro memoria by Ghost and the lyrics are hmm interesting

Why would they write that there though??

“Pro Memoria Lyrics”

Lucifer whispering
Silently into your mind
Who walks behind
Who walks behind
Standing tall invincible
But do not forget your knives
To save your lives
To save your lives
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Don’t you vomit savage slurs
Spewed up wickedly
To hide from me
To hide from me
Navigate all alone
On this tempestuous sea
To ride with me
To ride with me

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Lucifer whispering
Silently into your mind
Who walks behind
Who walks behind
Had you had the chance today
You would’ve sold out too
Ain’t that right
Sweet Saint Peter?

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

(I don't know if someone has already mentioned these stuff)

EDIT: I think the song was released in June this year, so I guess they didn't take it from this :/ It was the only thing I found related to "Pro memoria" though.
Hmm promemoria means reminder in Italian

This song is talking abut death.
And the line from catcher in ry3 novel is talking about death...

Why so many signs signalling to death in a song.

Good analysis

 

[Delacourf]

This song is talking abut death.
And the line from catcher in ry3 novel is talking about death...

Why so many signs signalling to death in a song.

Good analysis

Because one of them will be sacrificed probably. Or it is hints that death surrounding them since their relatives are dying and there will be another sacrifices.

 

[Hopeful]

Because one of them will be sacrificed probably. Or it is hints that death surrounding them since their relatives are dying and there will be another sacrifices.

Hufff.. This sure is depressing...

 

[Hopeful]

V is never leaving his left wrist red string.. Is he...?! There must be something about it.. that he wears it often

 

[Maggieca]

In the background it says "Pro memoria"
Well there's a song called Pro memoria by Ghost and the lyrics are hmm interesting

Why would they write that there though??

“Pro Memoria Lyrics”

Lucifer whispering
Silently into your mind
Who walks behind
Who walks behind
Standing tall invincible
But do not forget your knives
To save your lives
To save your lives
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Don’t you vomit savage slurs
Spewed up wickedly
To hide from me
To hide from me
Navigate all alone
On this tempestuous sea
To ride with me
To ride with me

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Lucifer whispering
Silently into your mind
Who walks behind
Who walks behind
Had you had the chance today
You would’ve sold out too
Ain’t that right
Sweet Saint Peter?

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

(I don't know if someone has already mentioned these stuff)

EDIT: I think the song was released in June this year, so I guess they didn't take it from this :/ It was the only thing I found related to "Pro memoria" though.
Hmm promemoria means reminder in Italian

someone here mentioned that in their last album they mentioned a band "ghost"
I'm not sure if I'm remembering this right but I think it was when they released a Rock version of one of their songs, they used a live band and the name of the band was "ghost" so you might be into something

 

[Maggieca]

Suga2 has been wearing a rose ring lately, he changed his old blue ring for the rose one:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1002461175756546048

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000604679309529089

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000605046466281472

This video explains about the rose meaning:

 

[Delacourf]

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V is never leaving his left wrist red string.. Is he...?! There must be something about it.. that he wears it often

Two variants: 1) he is officially in kabbalah doctrine. A lot of celebs worn this; 2) some people belive red string brings luck to person who wear it but usually it is people who don't know anything about religion. Since Tae is a person who aware of ocult and knows much more about it than we do, I think it is 1st variant. Kabbalists( or idk how to call them right) belive red string is a charm or protection from people's envy and evil eye. It is official version, but what does it means in reality in secret ocults, we will never know

 

[Hopeful]

Two variants: 1) he is officially in kabbalah doctrine. A lot of celebs worn this; 2) some people belive red string brings luck to person who wear it but usually it is people who don't know anything about religion. Since Tae is a person who aware of ocult and knows much more about it than we do, I think it is 1st variant. Kabbalists( or idk how to call them right) belive red string is a charm or protection from people's envy and evil eye. It is official version, but what does it means in reality in secret ocults, we will never know

Righttt hmmm...
I read now that they.. Read a jewish prayer on it.. And tie the knots.. I thought it should be knotted all the way... But now i found out that it can also have only 1 or 2 knots.. So that's most probably a kabbalah one.. That he's wearing.. He always wears it to the shows and fansign.. Since a long time ago

 

[truthseeker019821837]

I found a quote from the Cather in the Rye in Run Japanese MV. Idk if it has any significance but it might give a clue for something else later on

“The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one.”

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Oooh nice catch...
Now we have to wait whos the mature one and who's the immature one..
It's a battle between the 2 .. (j1n and V)

Wow, great catch! I remember vaguely reading that one in the book...
So I went and looked what this quote might mean:

"Here's what he said: 'The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one.'" (24.56)
It sounds here like Mr. Antolini might be worried that Holden’s going to commit suicide. But what’s Holden’s “cause”? He wants to be the catcher in the rye—to protect the innocence of youth. If Holden did manage to turn himself away from the rest of the [adult] world, as a kind of recluse, maybe he would “die nobly.”

https://www.shmoop.com/catcher-in-the-rye/wisdom-knowledge-quotes-2.html

In B*T$ terms, I would relate this to saying what is their "cause" or maybe agenda.... Is this the elite !lluminati cause to die nobly for that cause because that cause doesn't entail living humbly. Also, it made me think about the theme of their one of their albums being the “花樣年華” (“Hwa Yang Yeon Hwa”) means the most beautiful or happiest time of one's life does this mean that this is their " most beautiful or happiest time in their life", like when a flower blooms which would signify that it all goes downhill from here on out or that they may presumably live

Spoiler

only a short life

like a flower that blooms but wilts away after a season passes?

I found another interpretation of the quote:
Question
In The Catcher in the Rye, on page 188 what does Mr.Antolini's quotation, from a psychoanalyst named Wilhelm Stekel, mean?
At chapter 24, while Mr. Antolini and Holden were talking, Mr. Antolini said, "The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one."
Say whether you agree or disagree with this definition of maturity, and give an example from real life that shows why you think this.
Some answers
This poster links it to the theme of maturity.

Spoiler: catcher in the rye , maturity, dying for a cause, butterfly, living humbly

An immature man is someone who dies for his cause but doesn't contribute his efforts to help sustain and prolong it. An example from real life would be an activist that doesn't support the use of killing animals to wear fur coats. If that person campaigns and protests to stop people from skinning animals for wardrobe, he/she is fighting it out by living. However, if that activist wants to prove a point by dying for her cause, it marks immaturity as believed by Wilhelm Stekel.

The mature man knows to live life, learn what he admits he doesn't know and keep doing things to add to a cause. The immature boy wants things immediately, swaggers so he LOOKS like he knows and wants to add one huge thing to a cause that may cost him dearly. To be poetic, it's like a butterfly vs. a moth. The butterfly goes through stages until it is beautiful than lives and other may then appreciate its beauty. A moth lives only to find light and a become a part of the light's beauty before disappearing into dust.

I agree with this definition of maturity. This means that an immature man only wants to die in order to create a name or some sort of reputation for onself while living humbly for a cause is strictly just to help a cause, rather than help a reputation. Immature people usually tend to help themselves, rather than mature people who put others lives before their own. A real life example of this a mature person protesting and bringing an issue somewhere it can be changed or amended, rather than an immature person killing themselves to create a 'point', which ultimately doesn't change the problem.

I agree with this quote. an immature person will take more risks and want to die for doing something so I do agree with that part of it. However i don't agree that a mature person "wants to live humbly for one" i think that you don't have to live humbly in order to be mature. it doesnt depend on humbleness. it depends on your actions and the way you act.

http://matthiessen10.blogspot.com/2011/04/wisdom-of-wilhelm-stekel.html
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Interesting that a commenter likens it to the maturity of a butterfly. And we know MK Ultra deals with this kind of symbolism. Also, the theme of "dying for a cause" or "living humbly for one" and the 'maturity'.

 

[truthseeker019821837]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1010802491766669312

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That Deejay KH@led seems to be "another One" of the !lluminati puppets he just doesn't sit well with me. And ofc, we get our usual one eye R*M but now JayK is also paying tribute to their new idol and doing the V sign like Vee.
On Deejay KH@led

Searched his name and this is the 'nother one thing that comes up:

Spoiler: ....kh*led

An article/video

DJ Khaled said he does not perform oral sex on women because 'there are different rules for men'
The rapper says 'a woman should praise the man'

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/dj-khaled-the-breakfast-club-oral-sex-interview-2015-a8337276.html

Was this necessary k00k? Trying to pay tribute the one eyed always... Sick of this p0se.. Lame that they throw it everywhere..

And forget looking cool.. You look scary
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He is now their one official recruits he will likely do this pose to please their masters maybe he will compete with other members who can do the most !lluminati signs now. Disappointing.

 

[truthseeker019821837]

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I found something more from the Japanese Run MV.

"Phi Memoria" written above the "he wants"
(Memoria means memory in Italian)

There's a book written by an Italian neuroscientist and psychiatrist Giulio Tononi called PHI: A Voyage from the Brain to the Soul.
In the book, Phi is a theory that links consciousness to the notion of integrated information. It's part fantasy novel, part scientific expedition.

Galileo’s (told from his perspective) journey has three parts, each with a different guide.

• In the first, accompanied by a scientist who resembles Francis Crick, he learns why certain parts of the brain are important and not others, and why consciousness fades with sleep.
• In the second part, when his companion seems to be named Alturi (Galileo is hard of hearing; his companion’s name is actually Alan Turing), he sees how the facts assembled in the first part can be unified and understood through a scientific theory—a theory that links consciousness to the notion of integrated information (also known as phi).
• In the third part, accompanied by a bearded man who can only be Charles Darwin, he meditates on how consciousness is an evolving, developing, ever-deepening awareness of ourselves in history and culture—that it is everything we have and everything we are.

I haven't looked into this much yet, but could it link to some sort of mind control? If bignhit is the one who wrote those words in the walls.
Since the book was written in Italian, maybe the "memoria" has to do with something that the book talks about..?

The word "memoria" just reminds me of obituary "In memoriam", "in memory of" hopefully its not foreshadowing.
in me·mo·ri·am
ˌin məˈmôrēəm/Submit
noun
1.
an article written in memory of a dead person; an obituary.
"in memoriam notices in the paper"
preposition
preposition: in memoriam
1.
in memory of (a dead person).
"an openly revolutionary work in memoriam Che Guevara"

Spoiler

And I noticed, B*T*$ put some blatant and scary occult symbolism in their Japanese ver. of MVs. Like this one

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In the background it says "Pro memoria"
Well there's a song called Pro memoria by Ghost and the lyrics are hmm interesting

Why would they write that there though??

“Pro Memoria Lyrics”

Lucifer whispering
Silently into your mind
Who walks behind
Who walks behind
Standing tall invincible
But do not forget your knives
To save your lives
To save your lives
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Don’t you vomit savage slurs
Spewed up wickedly
To hide from me
To hide from me
Navigate all alone
On this tempestuous sea
To ride with me
To ride with me

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Lucifer whispering
Silently into your mind
Who walks behind
Who walks behind
Had you had the chance today
You would’ve sold out too
Ain’t that right
Sweet Saint Peter?

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

(I don't know if someone has already mentioned these stuff)

EDIT: I think the song was released in June this year, so I guess they didn't take it from this :/ It was the only thing I found related to "Pro memoria" though.
Hmm promemoria means reminder in Italian

The song Pro Memoria by Ghost just sounds morbid with death and like an ode to satanism with mention of "lucifer" blatantly in the lyrics. Why they put title songs behind and also the themes with K. Cobain Nirvana (27 club) and Nevermind album and his connection to satanism must be all clues embedded in their MVs.

Lucifer whispering
Silently into your mind
[...]
Don’t you forget about dying
Don’t you forget about your friend death
Don’t you forget that you will die

 

[Hopeful]

what in the world is he wearing ... Black and white of course ... And please bring on the fly repellent... He's in desperate need of it

 

[truthseeker019821837]

The bear with its mouth sewn shut is actually from the Disney Movie Coco. It's about dias de los muertos , day of the dead. Remember me is a song in the movie. I usually avoid Disney movies because of the symbolism and stuff but I did watch Coco too many times. It's actually really cute with minimal symbolism.

Thanks for the info. I heard about Day of the Dead in some movies too and its like a celebration:

The Day of the Dead is a Mexican holiday celebrated throughout Mexico, in particular the Central and South regions, and by people of Mexican ancestry living in other places, especially the United States.

I watched a movie and its like mentioned the day of the dead and it was like hunger games but like a corporate version and people killing each other. This might what the el!te would want. In the plot it had people with a microchip implant in the brain and a theme of surveillance too and people locked in a building:

I watched 'Up' and idk if that has occult symbolism, hopefully not but it had a cute/ sentimental part:

Oh this hurts to watch...
K00k merely getting back into senses after a sleep and threatened.. Not fair for anybody..

And V got hit straight in the chest.. This comes as a shock to the person getting hit.. Straight in the chest and the look on the hitting person's face is full of wrath...

And the rude managers.. Pushing the girls away like they're not humans... And idols watching them being pushed.. Can't do anything .. Cuz if they did they would get hit in return... And only scandals would develop..

Scary world out there.

The way managers, security etc. treated fans like that was disgusting. That aggression must be stemming from some problem within their lives. And it was also bad some of the artists it seems

Spoiler

were smiling after seeing fans get hit.

It's creppy
And since idols from a lots of group said to jamal to stop it mean that he wasn't flirty but more of a psychopathe ? Pervert, freak..
Glad to see that other idols, both men and women stood up for that girl

Man,

Spoiler

that jamal guy. Needs some help if this is true

Has anyone heard of the Lotte event and how messed up it was? I wonder if everything that went down was on purpose. BlackPink's stage being cut short in the middle of their performance made me think it was a humiliation ritual.
It was so unprofessional that it seemed staged lol

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1010399614288125952

Exactly. It's not like this event was thrown together at the last minute, they had ample time to prepare. Did this go down during the summer solstice??

Exo too, the mic wasn't working, it does seem deliberate

I found this YT vid, it has some comments from the one who made it. Apparently fans noticed and it is June so might be part of their humiliation ritual.

according to the insider the other one was Tae3 and this is something both of them used to do. A game for them to see who could get the girl first
I don't know if the tea was legit but I read a blog about kpop rumors a few years ago and there was a very similar blind item about a kpop group that just debuted (this rumor is from December of 2013)
Seducing Girls
○…A new K-Pop boy group is notorious for making a pass at female idols. The group's members usually make a bet on who is going to succeed in seducing woman. Actually, the women are the victims because the group members have no real interest in talking to women. They just want to flaunt. Girls, keep away from the group!
source: http://www.kpopbehind.com/2013/12/kpop-stars-rumors-plastic-surgey-sex.html

If its true, that's like really snakey behaviour. Playing with people like that. Not nice at all.

From all the yesterday's post i have come to a small little theory of my own...
J1min being the p3rvy brat.. Isn't allowed to have a room to himself.. Like all the others.. If he had a room the company would always be afraid to whom he talks to at nights or call or what he does alone.. There company is scared to get into scandals...
So they had to keep a guardian on him.. To which h0bi was assigned and he had to agree with living with him... And we know how V and j1m get suddenly scared when h0bi gives them a death glare.. Means he can keep them under control ...

Hob1 is their designated babysitter then... Seems like a serious guy irl so i can see that. Needs to keep jamal in check. And his look at them being done I find funny ...

 

[truthseeker019821837]

what in the world is he wearing ... Black and white of course ... And please bring on the fly repellent... He's in desperate need of it
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I shouldn't be laughing at this. but what is that. Seems like some traditional clothing tho. And ofc doing his favourite one eye with that el1te inspired clothing I presume.
The el!te sure do love wearing strange clothing like the strange/

Spoiler

satanic practice they do.

edit:
Almost forgot, I got him the eco-friendly one. Probably still won't help but well,

 

[truthseeker019821837]

And guys, see this F1re perf. fancam it felt like in Hades with all the fire effects

And some of the comments said, as it was previously noticed:

nctlucas
I HOPE TAEHYUNG IS OKAY
update, taehyung lost a lot of weight in the mass of 9 days and a lot or ARMYS are worried he also looked very lost and tired and he kept drinking water during the concert
Bloom *
nctlucas I know right it's like his body is screaming in protest not to dance so much .... also he has become too thin now ... nevertheless he gave a spectacular performance
Johlyn Poli
I think everyone is concerned because an insider mentioned that recently when taping his mic to his body, he had a lot of pain relieving tape also taped to his body.
Yeet yeet
army taetae apparently he has lost a lot of weight between this concert and the prom fiesta one, there was an analysis on youtube
MOCHI with a lot of SUGA and a cup of chocolaTAE
yoongi lost 1/4 of his before cb weight but no one cares ok bye

well, i found this weight loss from other members

Also think sugar because one of the comments mentioned nobody took notice when he lost weight

I can't find Vee's as some of the commenters said a person did here's jimb0

This is a focus on Vee fire perf:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1010227176610791424

some people noticed their error
https://twitter.com/lydia130613/status/893103392024924160?lang=en

 

[Delacourf]

That Deejay KH@led seems to be "another One" of the !lluminati puppets he just doesn't sit well with me. And ofc, we get our usual one eye R*M but now JayK is also paying tribute to their new idol and doing the V sign like Vee.
On Deejay KH@led

Searched his name and this is the 'nother one thing that comes up:

Spoiler: ....kh*led

An article/video

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/dj-khaled-the-breakfast-club-oral-sex-interview-2015-a8337276.html

He is now their one official recruits he will likely do this pose to please their masters maybe he will compete with other members who can do the most !lluminati signs now. Disappointing.
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Eeeew, dj khaled such a sexist eeeeeeew.