Bacsi
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No, it's true. It has nothing to do with being above or below. God isn't a monster. He's good.Thinking that you are above somebody intellectually just because they believe in something you don't only shows lack of maturity...Teenager mindset...
Yeah your friend is working hard trying to prove that Christian God is some monster, ain't nobody buying it...Who is your God ? It's not bible God so who is it then?No, it's true. It has nothing to do with being above or below. God isn't a monster. He's good.
How often humans rise from the dead ?You didn't get me. Here's the human sacrifice I'm talking about:
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There is only one God, the true one. The Bible god is an invention of people from the vile Middle EastYeah your friend is working hard trying to prove that Christian God is some monster, ain't nobody buying it...Who is your God ? It's not bible God so who is it when?
Oh very many. Ask any ER doctor. CPR works wonders sometimes.How often humans rose from the dead ?
After three days by themselves too? Never mind conceived by Holy Spirit, if you are willing to entertain the idea that biblical history is what actually happened you have to admit everything about about Jesus life is supernatural from start to finish...Oh very many. Ask any ER doctor. CPR works wonders sometimes.
Can you share some info about true God ? Link to a book or site will do just fine...There is only one God, the true one. The Bible god is an invention of people from the vile Middle East
If you search God with a pure heart, he will reveal himself to you. Go to him direct. Don't read books full of lies. They will lead you astray.After three days by themselves too? Never mind conceived by Holy Spirit, if you are willing to entertain the idea that biblical history is what actually happened you have to admit everything about about Jesus life is supernatural from start to finish...
Can you share some info about true God ? Link to a book or site will do just fine...
It already happened, that is why i am so sure i follow right path...And i am not religious by most standards , i don't go to church, i don't belong to community, but i believe in bible, even if i was an atheist i would still view bible as source of wisdom, not a book of lies...You know which God i follow but you refuse to show your one and only God. Im really curious, having in mind your background and all...If you search God with a pure heart, he will reveal himself to you. Go to him direct. Don't read books full of lies. They will lead you astray.
I agree but the mainstream religions do not find profit in that. That is why they have their Inquisitions and Jihads.Carrot and stick approach works on a primitive level. It's like treating animals... I believe we humans are capable of thinking and making conscious decisions based on understanding of how this world actually works. Not lies to scare you into submission.
You are saying Jesus volunteered, even though while on the mount of olives, he begged God to change his mind.I know what his sacrifice means for me personally and that's good enough. That girl failed at around 1 minute mark, yeah it would not make sense if he was forced to do what he did. Thing is nobody forced Him He did it because he wanted to do it. What is foolishness from her view point is ultimate expression of love for those who find more in his actions than just foolishness. That girl also fails to understand meaning of life victory over death, hence her comment about it means nothing because He rose up after three days. Lets oversimplify everything until it sounds dumb... If she thinks she is being clever, she has reading comprehension problems...Half of bible deals with explaining Jesus life and death and half of world refuses to understand it...I get that people doesn't believe it, but to pretend not understand it.... I don't believe that for one second..
Anyways best of luck with educating folks here about "truth" i got points, im happy now...
God the Son was on the Cross of his own free will. He chose to lay down His life for you @Bacsi - I'm sure you can see that there is no voluntary element in human sacrifice!You didn't get me. Here's the human sacrifice I'm talking about:
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It's absolutely abhorrent. The true God would never do anything so barbaric and awful.
Jesus said that children were brighter in some things than the so called adults.Thinking that you are above somebody intellectually just because they believe in something you don't only shows lack of maturity...Teenager mindset...
I think our friend is a protestant who does not know what the leader of that movement taught.If you search God with a pure heart, he will reveal himself to you. Go to him direct. Don't read books full of lies. They will lead you astray.
One and only God?It already happened, that is why i am so sure i follow right path...And i am not religious by most standards , i don't go to church, i don't belong to community, but i believe in bible, even if i was an atheist i would still view bible as source of wisdom, not a book of lies...You know which God i follow but you refuse to show your one and only God. Im really curious, having in mind your background and all...
He asked if his Father will is still the same, and allowed himself one moment of human weakness, connection between him and father was broken as Jesus appears strangely unaware what his father thinks anymore it was done so he could suffer to the fullest, as simple human.You are saying Jesus volunteered, even though while on the mount of olives, he begged God to change his mind.
You are keeping your immoral eyes on the prize and foolishly think Jesus/God would condemn you just to turn around and die for you. Your delusion is quite deep. They must have cought you before the age of reason.
Let's see if you have any moral sense left.
You do know that Jesus was a Jewish Rabbi. Right?
You do know he would teach the following. Right?
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear theiniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
Deuteronomy 24:16 (ESV) "Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death be cause oftheir fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.
The declaration which says that God visits the sins of thefathers upon the children is contrary to every principle of moral justice.[Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason]
Do you deny that Jesus would preach those good moral tenets?
Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them,--- is immoral. To abdicate personal responsibility or use a scapegoat is immoral.
Do you agree? If not, your moral sense is corrupted.
Regards
DL
If true and as you say, then you must think and believe as this scholars says.you have to admit everything about Jesus' life is supernatural from start to finish...
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Yet Jesus referred back to O.T. law, but don't let facts interfere with the God you have invented.He asked if his Father will is still the same, and allowed himself one moment of human weakness, connection between him and father was broken as Jesus appears strangely unaware what his father thinks anymore it was done so he could suffer to the fullest, as simple human.
Sheer amount of times he prophesied about his death would suggest he was very well aware what is going to happen to him , and was okay with that...
I won't comment on OT laws, they mean nothing to me...We not under the law anymore, that is because of Jesus also...Punishments were hard back when, wages of sin is death...
As for your personal observations, im recently become religious, most of my life i spent hating God and blaming him for everything what has happened to me through life...Im quite happy being immoral and without sense of reason, certainly feel a lot better than i used to...Anyways im done in this thread...Best of luck with your...Sisyphus job...
You can run but you cannot hide what happened here....Anyways im done in this thread...
Sacrifice:God the Son was on the Cross of his own free will. He chose to lay down His life for you @Bacsi - I'm sure you can see that there is no voluntary element in human sacrifice!
You can be like the thief who spits in His face, or the one who believes.