Origins of Freemasonry, is it Satanic?

[Aero]

Why don't you do the right thing then and tell your fellow man what the end game actually is?

Or is that information purely for the chosen few as you appear to insinuate?

Stop talking in bloody riddles, it smacks of arrogance.

And if you were abused as a child I'm sorry for you but you don't have the monopoly on that either. If you are still trying to come to terms with that abuse I suggest you seek the appropriate professional help as opposed to discussing it on a public forum.

You cannot change your past, you will either suffer from it or learn from it. From what I can see you are an example of the former.

Huh? I thought you were woke. I was clearly referencing that Taylor Swift song. I'm kidding, actually. I've never even heard the song. Seriously though, the end game I was talking about is based on a simple theory. And while I've noticed you don't seem like the science type, I'm going to go for it anyway.

We've talked about it here, and if you've ever paid attention to criminal court cases you will see the theory play out. The criminals people love to demonize were all typically victims once themselves. The abused become the abusers, and so on. So if you are keeping up so far, they tried to destroy me. Thus I became the destroyer.

Maybe that's why I'm so arrogant. From destroying so much shit. Like I would make the ancient Gnostics so proud. It's like I can feel them in the Astral plane. And they're like holy shit bro. How can 1 person destroy so many filthy ass snakes? Idk what it is I just fucking hate snakes. And who isn't suffering? I mean really. How low do you cut your grass?

 

[Awoken2]

So this simple theory that your going to explain, just explain it.

By your second paragraph You've veered onto justifying why you behave so badly, It's because you were a victim,so now you think It's your job to create more victims just like you.

That is just a cop out from somebody who thinks that absolves them of any personal responsibility for their actions.

And don't patronise me, you know nothing about me so don't go making wild assumptions about what I may or may not know.

Your arrogance is a barrier for effective communication.

Not all victims turn into abusers so don't generalise that they do.

And there you go again, don't worry about my grass. If you have a question for me just ask it. Talk about the bloody riddler

 

[Awoken2]

Hmmm I see how this works now. Any difficult questions get asked and with a swish of their Masonic apron....they've gone!

That's the third time It's happened now. I see your game Aero

 

[Awoken2]

My position on the whole Freemason thing:
The suggestion they're Satan Worshipers is silly. You can suggest they unknowingly serve Satan, but the Freemason ethos/doctrine is FAR too Christ/Bible-centric to suggest they're knowingly Satanic in practice. The only way you can claim Freemasonry is overtly satanic is if you've never actually read anything Freemason, and simply take what a very cooky internet has told you about them at face-value.

The belief that Freemasons are, for lack of a better term, 'The Illuminati' is an intentional diversion orchestrated by, for lack of a better term, 'The Illuminati'. While I don't deny high-level Freemasons may have been and may now be involved in vast criminal conspiracies, I don't for a second believe they represent the highest echelons of the global elite. This focus we see in mass media on masonic imagery is too pervasive to be coincidence it's true, but do you honestly believe Freemasonry, as a self-respecting secret society, is responsible for its own symbols and practices being turned into friggen Taco-Bell ads? I think 'the powers that be' are quite happy to sit back and smile as those of us who recognize their presence sniffle and snuffle over this 'Freemason-Illuminati' business they've plainly placed before our noses in a doggy-bowl.

Perhaps your opinion my change if you were to read and understand this.

http://humansarefree.com/2011/09/history-of-house-of-rothschild-complete.html?m=0

It's a bit of an eye opener....no pun intended

 

[Awoken2]

A very very enlightening read.

http://humansarefree.com/2011/09/history-of-house-of-rothschild-complete.html?m=0

Just the very first paragraph alone should set some serious alarm bells ringing....

The Rothschilds “claim” that they are Jewish, when in fact they are Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia.

It's not coincidental that this monument stands in Georgia.

If you factor in the transgender agenda which is being forcefully rammed down our throats by these people using their favourite tools of music and entertainment.

This video is a pretty good interpretation of this vision of a "higher self"....the merging of the male and female into some type of androgynous semi android.

 

[mecca]

This video is a pretty good interpretation of this vision of a "higher self"....the merging of the male and female into some type of androgynous semi android.

That's not really what Forty Six & 2 is about. Also that video is factually inaccurate.

 

[Awoken2]

That's not really what Forty Six & 2 is about. Also that video is factually inaccurate.

But I never said it was factually accurate, I said it was an interpretation of a vision.

The lyrics to the song are quite ambiguous as most of Maynards work was. It's all open to interpretation really.

 

[mecca]

The lyrics to the song are quite ambiguous as most of Maynards work was. It's all open to interpretation really.

That's true... but in the song he talks about his shadow, and that concept really doesn't have anything to do with transgender people.

But I never said it was factually accurate, I said it was an interpretation of a vision.

I was just pointing it out because the video is pretty absurd, it calls Australian aboriginals indians (lol) and says that they're "primitive" and that they have less chromosomes than everyone else, which is blatantly false and super racist. Aboriginals aren't less evolved. All humans have the same, specific amount of chromosomes (46). If we didn't have 46 chromosomes, we would be a completely different species.

 

[Awoken2]

Yes that's correct but he did say in the opening description it was a highly unbelievable theory taken from a book so He's not claiming it to be factually correct.

The point I'm trying to make is there must be a reason why this transgender agenda is being so heavily pushed forward. It's been continuously permeated throughout the entertainment industry which is just another arm of the Freemasons control system.

The 322 Skull and Bones Society have many links to this transgender ideology.

There have been many mainstream music videos where they openly show us that there is Oestrogen going into the food chain, sperm counts are plumneting and this agenda is in full motion.

Did you read the Rothchild article? Do you not feel this organisation could possibly be the biggest threat we all face today?

 

[mecca]

Yes that's correct but he did say in the opening description it was a highly unbelievable theory taken from a book so He's not claiming it to be factually correct.

The point I'm trying to make is there must be a reason why this transgender agenda is being so heavily pushed forward. It's been continuously permeated throughout the entertainment industry which is just another arm of the Freemasons control system.

The 322 Skull and Bones Society have many links to this transgender ideology.

There have been many mainstream music videos where they openly show us that there is Oestrogen going into the food chain, sperm counts are plumneting and this agenda is in full motion.

Did you read the Rothchild article? Do you not feel this organisation could possibly be the biggest threat we all face today?

Well, transgender people have always existed and no one really made a big deal. I think this is manufactured division and it takes the focus away from the real problems that we are all facing. It's not even possible them to turn people transgender... some people are just born like that and they are an extremely small portion of the population.

 

[mecca]

The pollution of our food and water sources is the fault of corporations and their focus on profits over everything else, not necessarily a conspiracy.

 

[Awoken2]

Not necessarily a conspiracy?

It's shoved right in our faces

 

[mecca]

It's shoved right in our faces

Maybe the corporations are conspiring... but they are conspiring about how to get the most profit.

 

[Aero]

I shouldn't have to explain things that are self explanatory. Nor should I take the topic way off course by trying to explain things that people can research on their own. If you want to actually understand something, you do research. It doesn't matter how well I share my thoughts. I know I'm not going to convince people on my own. Therefore I really don't care about other peoples problems. Unless you care about mine.

There's plenty of cases of actual abuse, and the hysteria it caused. There's even a movie about it for the lazy people. So with that said, I'm not here to debate anyone. Consider me like an Orator outside the Senate House in Ancient Rome. I'm just here utilizing my keen oratory skills. Sometimes they are not so keen, but everyone experiences failure. In Ancient Rome they would cut your hands and tongue off and nail them to the Senate door.

You can't heckle a good Orator. And that Tool song is about an unconscious archetype. It's about becoming aware of "shadow" material. And bringing it into conscious thought. In simple terms, it's a song about him developing mature defense mechanisms. How anyone can not get that is proof some of you are caught hook line and sinker. Like how about this one. All the transgender people coming out are all crisis actors. Sorry. It's clearly all fake.

 

[Maes17]

Freemasonry is satanic as hell. There are different “denomination” of freemasonry. I recently talk to a black male who is a member. He kept ranting on how no body should be messing with a black man because they are “God”. He also said 33rd degree isn’t the last but rather 360 degree. I just chuckled and parted way. I got attacked later that night while asleep, but the name of Jesus took care of these demons.

 

[Awoken2]

Maybe the corporations are conspiring... but they are conspiring about how to get the most profit.

 

[Awoken2]

I shouldn't have to explain things that are self explanatory. Nor should I take the topic way off course by trying to explain things that people can research on their own. If you want to actually understand something, you do research. It doesn't matter how well I share my thoughts. I know I'm not going to convince people on my own. Therefore I really don't care about other peoples problems. Unless you care about mine.

There's plenty of cases of actual abuse, and the hysteria it caused. There's even a movie about it for the lazy people. So with that said, I'm not here to debate anyone. Consider me like an Orator outside the Senate House in Ancient Rome. I'm just here utilizing my keen oratory skills. Sometimes they are not so keen, but everyone experiences failure. In Ancient Rome they would cut your hands and tongue off and nail them to the Senate door.

You can't heckle a good Orator. And that Tool song is about an unconscious archetype. It's about becoming aware of "shadow" material. And bringing it into conscious thought. In simple terms, it's a song about him developing mature defense mechanisms. How anyone can not get that is proof some of you are caught hook line and sinker. Like how about this one. All the transgender people coming out are all crisis actors. Sorry. It's clearly all fake.

You orate far too much rubbish for me. I've seen you over different threads pontificating away but as soon as somebody hits you with a valid point you just disappear....arriving later in another thread to start the process again.

I've done some work in the area of mental health and I'm seeing plenty of signs of a multi personality disorder.....no offence

Direct no more of your oration at me because I speak as I find.

And yes, people don't care how much you know until they k ow how much you care

 

[Aero]

You orate far too much rubbish for me. I've seen you over different threads pontificating away but as soon as somebody hits you with a valid point you just disappear....arriving later in another thread to start the process again.

I've done some work in the area of mental health and I'm seeing plenty of signs of a multi personality disorder.....no offence

Direct no more of your oration at me because I speak as I find.

And yes, people don't care how much you know until they k ow how much you care

I don't think I've seen you post one valid point about anything. All your replies to me are full of personal attacks, and strawman arguments. That tends to mean that a person doesn't have a clue. And if I'm rubbing anyone the wrong way, than that's their problem. Isn't it?

The theories I have laid out in this thread are perfectly accurate. So it's no surprise the people who think Masons and Satan are the same thing have nothing to say. Many of you are simply succumbing to fear tactics. Or most of this stuff can be chalked up to what Psychology calls introjection.

Introjection simply meaning. The unconscious adoption of the ideas or attitudes of others.

"Freud said that development takes place through introjection, but if it remains introjection and goes no further, then it becomes a block; it becomes identification. Introjection is to a great extent unawares"

 

[Awoken2]

I don't think I've seen you post one valid point about anything.

Here is a valid point. Only one of us is a Free Mason, that's you. Freemasonry is a Luciferean Occultist Society.

End of point.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

@Aero

"So it's no surprise the people who think Masons and Satan are the same thing have nothing to say."

I don't presume to know as much about Freemasonry as you, but I had a very clear thought. The devil is described as both Satan and Lucifer in the Bible. Growing up I didn't understand why.

To say I do now would be to over stretch my human awareness but I think I have an example that helped me understand a bit.

ISIS were masters of Asymetric Warfare. There would be an explosion and a firefight suddenly break out at one end of town - everyone would dash to the scene, and meanwhile, the other side of town they would roll in with their vehicles and take over.

In the same way, nasty attention grabbing, Satanism fills the headlines and attention over at VCF. People rush over to oppose this obvious evil.

The Hegelian Dialectic is not wasted here. People react to opposites.

If Satanism is anti-human, chewing up and spitting out kids and stars without remorse, its "opposite" in terms of PR is not automatically Biblical Christianity, but any system that raises and promotes the value of the individual.

As such, the trucks streaming in at the other side of the spiritual town are full of Gnostics, Humanists, Rosicrucians and Freemasons.

Too few people realise that the solution to the darkness of the Satanic elites is not the false light of Lucifer, but the true light of Jesus Christ.