UFO Disclosure and AI

[Faker He-Man]

Go easy on each other…

If your ideas are ridiculed, don’t take it too personally. If you ridicule an idea, try not to attack the person at the same time.

The most difficult thing for us to accept is that we have been living under a giant lie. It’s emotionally devastating and tears apart the foundation of our existence.

Yesterday was a big day, energetically speaking. Today seems the same. We are turning the lights on - full power mode. It’s on. I don’t know the timing, I just know the signs are in place. Finally. Hooray!

 

[L3M4]

Much of the Aliens narrative is founded on the assumption that “Science” has somehow proven evolution. Based on an assumed biological evolution, a form of spiritual evolution rides on the same plot line.

What if that evolutionary foundation was far weaker that is popularly believed? What if the evolutionary narrative itself was simply deception. When building a house, it does no harm to check the foundations before starting on the walls…

“The Scopes ‘Monkey Trial’ Revisited” - An invitation to examine both sides of the origins debate

[Edit] This heated presentation by Dr James Tour reflects the closed shop of Evolutionary science. His response is as incisive as it is scathing! I found something I wrote years ago... “Earlier this century the famous Scopes "Monkey" Trial proved to be a turning point in science education...

vigilantcitizenforums.com

I strongly defended evolution as an obvious common-sense knowledge; even most Christians I know will laugh hysterically if you claim otherwise. But sadly, the truth is that archeology and science have been manipulated in specific areas with fraud under fraud for centuries, by certain individuals and groups who perpetuate the same agenda, History Books followed, evolution "theory" is in fact, a calculated modern-age deception. CIA - Corporate owned Science Magazines work as propaganda to extend the deception with hundreds of fabricated articles weekly... Don't worry about this "STARMAN" character claiming other wise, who admitted in a "Demi Lovato" thread to openly sign up on this board only to post pro-alien statements.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

I strongly defended evolution as an obvious common-sense knowledge; even most Christians I know will laugh hysterically if you claim otherwise. But sadly, the truth is that archeology and science have been manipulated in specific areas with fraud under fraud for centuries, by certain individuals and groups who perpetuate the same agenda, History Books followed, evolution "theory" is in fact, a calculated modern-age deception. CIA - Corporate owned Science Magazines work as propaganda to extend the deception with hundreds of fabricated articles weekly... Don't worry about this "STARMAN" character claiming other wise, who admitted in a "Demi Lovato" thread to openly sign up on this board only to post pro-alien statements.

Evolution started to really crumble for me when I began to study the likelihood of abiogenesis. I remember asking my head of department as an undergraduate, given how complex even the most basic functioning cell needed to be, how life could arise be chance anywhere in the universe. I mentioned the chirality of the amino acids in the Miller-Urey experiment, and how life uses exclusively left handed forms. They literally have no answer.

 

[seekinheart]

Evolution started to really crumble for me when I began to study the likelihood of abiogenesis. I remember asking my head of department as an undergraduate, given how complex even the most basic functioning cell needed to be, how life could arise be chance anywhere in the universe. I mentioned the chirality of the amino acids in the Miller-Urey experiment, and how life uses exclusively left handed forms. They literally have no answer.

Where do u stand on germ theory Red

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Evolution does not speak on abiogenesis whatsoever, and you know this.

FWIW, Mr.Morning, I believe in a creator!

Abiogenesis is the first rung in the evolutionary ladder, but many of the other steps are equally “irreducibly complex”. E.g. can you give an account of the evolution of the eye, the feather or even the special organ in the giraffes neck that stops its head exploding when it eats off the ground and prevents it passing out when it picks its head back up again? It takes a special kind of faith to believe this stuff!!

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Circular reasoning. Regardless this is off topic, I know it’s your thread but still.

Anyway, I said I believe there was a guided “spark” that started evolution.

I know what you are saying, but the relentless hunt for alien life is driven by the presupposition that if provided with the right building blocks, like ingredients in a cake, life will spring up wherever the conditions are suitable. That’s what I take issue with.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Where do u stand on germ theory Red

The same problems apply - whatever the conditions, the statistical problems of emerging life remain the same. Life could no more be “seeded” from outer space than spring up in Darwin’s little warm pond!!!

 

[seekinheart]

That’s not what they meant with that question, they mean germ theory, in other words do you believe in microbiology and that microbes can make you sick.

Yeh that's my fault an easy mistake it's off topic what I said.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

That’s not what they meant with that question, they mean germ theory, in other words do you believe in microbiology and that microbes can make you sick.

I didn’t realise that was a theory - it‘s just a thing…

 

[seekinheart]

Well as I said, something stared a “spark” of life and I believe it’s universal as in the entire universe, that same spark. I don’t believe in a creator with one book and one plan for one set of life forms on one planet.

What's the purpose of aliens helping us ?

To become immortal?

 

[elsbet]

Thank you for the videos Elsbet.

Yes I know of Dr. Greer I believe he is trying to help people and this planet. I think it’s very exciting and I’m looking forward to see what happens. I have no reason to believe it’s anything negative for us. Many people have done it independent of Greer that I believe it’s true and I’m not easily swayed.

Regardless I think we agree that something is happening.

The media that portrays them as hostile vastly outweighs any that portray them positively, and research papers and articles skew that way too. Not to mention the newly created US Space Force.

You're welcome!

The new Space Force... I hear you.
There is nothing they could do to them, anyway-- and they know it.

It would also be pointless because these entities are not limited to "space travel." They have multiple points of access-- always have.

I'm curious though-- if you've never communicated with them before, what convinced you their intentions are good, beyond shadow of doubt?

 

[seekinheart]

They are highly conscious beings with evolved empathy centers who don’t want to see us suffer and die and destroy ourselves.

Our actions reverberate as well, things like nuclear testing cause ripples that effect how these beings live.

If people were mad at God for his seeming absence they should really be mad at the aliens then. Lol they don't seem to be helping that many people

 

[seekinheart]

So many people have reported contact with them, specifically through the protocols and none of it has been negative.

Whistleblowers and evidence talking about the national security state’s desire to paint them as hostile. The Von Braun death bed testimony, Reagan etc.

If they were hostile they would have taken care of us in the 40s. So many reports are about them averted nuclear crises and being around nuclear bases and such.

Seems more like wishful thinking to me

 

[Nikōn]

Do you believe in God? That’s unproven too pal.

I can say the same, that waiting for Jesus’ return is also wishful thinking.

It's curious how you negatively compare the credibility of your aliens (and alien technology) to God and Jesus's return. Whether this is a Freudian-slip or not, it must make thread readers wonder (considering this is the thread's biggest alien fanboy).

 

[Nikōn]

What’s curious about it? Sure there’s faith and hope involved, like with everything. There certainly is less of it with aliens. It’s been admitted that something is up.

At least it’s positive and based off a desire for healing, whereas with Christianity and Islam it’s about destruction.

Again, very curious that you're doing so much Abrahamic religion bashing here in your preaching, as if it had anything to do with the conversation. I really could not care less about however you frame the Abrahamic religions.


I certainly never brought up anything on that side of things in this thread. I mentioned the very direct connections between UFOlogy/Aliens with Occultism, and aspects of politics.
It's funny that you jump on the anti-theist kind of Communist train so willingly, as if you are just too eager to prove what I've already been saying.
Aka: "RELIGION IS EVIL, THERE IS NO GOD, WE NEED TO BULD A COMMUNIST UTOPIA AND THE ALIENS ARE GOING TO HELP UP ASCEND TO COMPLETE IT. COMMUNISM NEVER WORKED BEFORE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE ALIENS"

 

[Lyfe]

Christianity and Islam are about destruction? What about the aliens? I dont think farmers appreciate having their crops destroyed by crop circles or their cattle mutilated. What about people being abducted against their own will and all the horrifying abduction stories? The aliens sound like godless barbarians.

 

[Nikōn]

It's funny though that the extreme ultimate result of the materialist antitheist camp is either aliens or AI. Why is it always the same thing?

 

[Nikōn]

Christianity and Islam are about destruction? What about the aliens? I dont think farmers appreciate having their crops destroyed by crop circles or their cattle mutilated. What about people being abducted against their own will and all the horrifying abduction stories? The aliens sound like godless barbarians.

And practical jokers. The trickster and deceptive (which I use without any pejorative) element to UFOs and aliens has been well observed. The component of CIA and disinfo goes back to the earliest reports of this phenomena.
Many Occultists with an interest in UFOlogy even compare UFOS/aliens to the Fool tarot card, Jungian psychologists observe similar things about it. (remember that Jung himself wrote one of the first psychological analysis' of the UFO phenomenon).

 

[Nikōn]

Also regarding UFOs, people always forget about this work of fiction which long predates it:

The War of the Worlds - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And the even more infamous radio broadcasts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds_(1938_radio_drama)

Just makes you wonder.

 

[Lyfe]

Christian and Islamic eschatology is certainly about destruction and revenge against unbelievers leaving most of the world dead.

Cattle mutilations and abductions are staged by the government.

Maybe... I believe there is both a government and supernatural element to the abductions and mutilations. Its a real doozy of a subject.

I have read allot of material about how aliens arr sending messages to their alien cults about how we need to cleanse the world from negative energies holding humanity back. Probably means genocide of course for dissenters. Idk how much better off youd be with the aliens wanting to kill muslims and christians to clean the world.