Those who will not LIVE by The Law will DIE by The Law

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This has been the message from our Creator since the beginning. Our loving Creator wants only what is best for us, and has provided us with His Perfect Law of Liberty to protect us from evil and to set and keep us free from the poverty, oppression, injustice, death and destruction that comes from not keeping our Covenant Promise to keep The Law.

Here is a list of THE BLESSINGS that God has PROMISED to bestow upon us IF we keep The Law:

Deuteronomy 28:1-14
28:1 And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the "I AM" thy God, to observe [and] to do all His Commandments which I command thee this day, that the "I AM" thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth:
28:2 And ALL THESE BLESSINGS shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the "I AM" thy God.
28:3 Blessed [shalt] thou [be] in the city, and blessed [shalt] thou [be] in the field.
28:4 Blessed [shall be] the fruit of thy body, and the fruit of thy ground, and the fruit of thy cattle, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
28:5 Blessed [shall be] thy basket and thy store.
28:6 Blessed [shalt] thou [be] when thou comest in, and blessed [shalt] thou [be] when thou goest out.
28:7 The "I AM" shall cause thine enemies that rise up against thee to be smitten before thy face: they shall come out against thee one way, and flee before thee seven ways.
28:8 The "I AM" shall command the blessing upon thee in thy storehouses, and in all that thou settest thine hand unto; and He shall bless thee in the land which the "I AM" thy God giveth thee.
28:9 The "I AM" shall establish thee an holy people unto Himself, as He hath sworn unto thee, if thou shalt keep the Commandments of the "I AM" thy God, and walk in His Ways.
28:10 And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the "I AM"; and they shall be afraid of thee.
28:11 And the "I AM" shall make thee plenteous in goods, in the fruit of thy body, and in the fruit of thy cattle, and in the fruit of thy ground, in the land which the "I AM" sware unto thy fathers to give thee.
28:12 The "I AM" shall open unto thee His good treasure, the heaven to give the rain unto thy land in his season, and to bless all the work of thine hand: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, and thou shalt not borrow.
28:13 And the "I AM" shall make thee the head, and not the tail; and thou shalt be above only, and thou shalt not be beneath; if that thou hearken unto the Commandments of the "I AM" thy God, which I command thee this day, to observe and to DO [them]:
28:14 And thou shalt not go aside from any of the Words which I command thee this day, [to] the right hand, or [to] the left, to go after other gods to serve them.


The ONLY Way YOU can experience these Blessings is to keep The Law. This IMMUTABLE TRUTH has NEVER been abolished, nor could it be*, and is still in effect today according to Christ (Matt. 5:17-20).

*Our UNCHANGING God doesn't change His Definition of what is right and what is wrong, nor does He break His Promises.
 
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Just as there is a list of BLESSINGS promised to those that keep The Law, there is a list of CURSES (PENALTIES) for NOT keeping The Law:

Deuteronomy 28:15-68
28:15 But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the "I AM" thy God, to observe to do all His Commandments and His Statutes which I command thee this day; that ALL THESE CURSES [of the Law] shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:
28:16 Cursed [shalt] thou [be] in the city, and cursed [shalt] thou [be] in the field.
28:17 Cursed [shall be] thy basket and thy store.
28:18 Cursed [shall be] the fruit of thy body (Eno. 96:14), and the fruit of thy land, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep.
28:19 Cursed [shalt] thou [be] when thou comest in, and cursed [shalt] thou [be] when thou goest out.
28:20 The "I AM" shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of thy doings, whereby thou hast forsaken Me.
28:21 The "I AM" shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until He have consumed thee from off the land, where thou goest to possess it.
28:22 The "I AM" shall smite thee with a consumption, and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
28:23 And thy heaven that [is] over thy head shall be brass, and the earth that is under thee [shall be] [like] iron.
28:24 The "I AM" shall make the rain of thy land powder and dust: from heaven shall it come down upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
28:25 The "I AM" shall cause thee to be smitten before thine enemies: thou shalt go out one way against them, and flee seven ways before them: and shalt be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth.
28:26 And thy carcase shall be meat unto all fowls of the air, and unto the beasts of the earth, and no man shall scare [them] away.
28:27 The "I AM" will smite thee with the botch of Egypt, and with the hemorrhoids, and with the scab, and with the itch, whereof thou canst not be healed.
28:28 The "I AM" shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and with heart-attack:
28:29 And thou shalt grope at noonday, as the blind gropeth in darkness, and thou shalt not prosper in thy ways: and thou shalt be only oppressed and spoiled evermore, and no man shall save [thee].
28:30 Thou shalt marry a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.
28:31 Thine ox [shall be] slain before thine eyes, and thou shalt not eat thereof: thine ass [shall be] violently taken away from before thy face, and shall not be restored to thee: thy sheep [shall be] given unto thine enemies, and thou shalt have none to rescue [them].
28:32 Thy sons and thy daughters [shall be] given unto another people, and thine eyes shall look, and fail [with longing] for them all the day long: and [there shall be] no might in thine hand.
28:33 The fruit of thy land, and all thy labours, shall a nation which thou knowest not eat up; and thou shalt be only oppressed and crushed always:
28:34 So that thou shalt be mad for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
28:35 The "I AM" shall smite thee in the knees, and in the legs, with a sore botch that cannot be healed, from the sole of thy foot unto the top of thy head.
28:36 The "I AM" shall bring thee, and thy king which thou shalt set over thee, unto a nation which neither thou nor thy fathers have known; and there shalt thou serve other gods, wood and stone.
28:37 And thou shalt become an astonishment, a proverb, and a byword, among all nations where the "I AM" shall lead thee.
28:38 Thou shalt carry much seed out into the field, and shalt gather [but] little in; for the locust shall consume it.
28:39 Thou shalt plant vineyards, and dress [them], but shalt neither drink [of] the wine, nor gather [the grapes]; for the worms shall eat them.
28:40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint [thyself] with the oil; for thine olive shall cast [his fruit].
28:41 Thou shalt beget sons and daughters, but thou shalt not enjoy them; for they shall go into captivity.
28:42 All thy trees and fruit of thy land shall the locust consume.
28:43 The stranger that [is] within thy borders shall get up above thee very high; and thou shalt come down very low.
28:44 He shall lend to thee, and thou shalt not lend to him: he shall be the head, and thou shalt be the tail.
28:45 Moreover all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and overtake thee, till thou be destroyed; because thou hearkenedst not unto the voice of the "I AM" thy God, to keep His Commandments and His Statutes which He commanded thee:
28:46 And they shall be upon thee for a sign and for a wonder, and upon thy seed for ever.
28:47 Because thou servedst not the "I AM" thy God with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all [things];
28:48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies which the "I AM" shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in need of all [things]: and He shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until He have destroyed thee.
28:49 The "I AM" shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, [as swift] as the eagle (emblem of Babylon and their descendants the Romans) flieth; a nation whose tongue (babble-onian) thou shalt not understand;
28:50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor show favour to the young:
28:51 And he shall eat the fruit of thy cattle, and the fruit of thy land, until thou be destroyed: which [also] shall not leave thee [either] corn, wine, or oil, [or] the increase of thy kine, or flocks of thy sheep, until he have destroyed thee.
28:52 And he shall besiege thee in all thy gates, until thy high and fenced walls come down, wherein thou trustedst, throughout all thy land: and he shall besiege thee in all thy gates throughout all thy land, which the "I AM" thy God hath given thee.
28:53 And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters, which the "I AM" thy God hath given thee, in the siege, and in the strictness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee:
28:54 [So that] the man [that is] tender among you, and very delicate, his eye shall be evil toward his brother, and toward the wife of his bosom, and toward the remnant of his children which he shall leave:
28:55 So that he will not give to any of them of the flesh of his children whom he shall eat: because he hath nothing left him in the siege, and in the strictness, wherewith thine enemies shall distress thee in all thy gates.
28:56 The tender and delicate woman among you, which would not adventure to set the sole of her foot upon the ground for delicateness and tenderness, her eye shall be evil toward the husband of her bosom, and toward her son, and toward her daughter,
28:57 And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them for want of all [things] secretly in the siege and strictness, wherewith thine enemy shall distress thee in thy gates.
28:58 If thou wilt not observe to do all the words of this Law that are written in this Book, that thou mayest fear this glorious and fearful name, THE "I AM" THAT "I AM";
28:59 Then the "I AM" will make thy plagues extraordinary, and the plagues of thy seed, [even] great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.
28:60 Moreover He will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee.
28:61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which [is] not written in the Book of this Law, them will the "I AM" bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.
28:62 And ye shall be left few in number, whereas ye were as "the stars of heaven" for multitude; because thou wouldest not obey the voice of the "I AM" thy God.
28:63 And it shall come to pass, [that] as the "I AM" rejoiced over you to do you good, and to multiply you; so the "I AM" will rejoice over you to destroy you, and to bring you to nought; and ye shall be plucked from off the land where thou goest to possess it.
28:64 And the "I AM" shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, [even] wood and stone.
28:65 And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the "I AM" shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
28:66 And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:
28:67 In the morning thou shalt say, Would God it were evening! and at evening thou shalt say, Would God it were morning! for the fear of thine heart wherewith thou shalt fear, and for the sight of thine eyes which thou shalt see.
28:68 And the "I AM" shall bring thee into slavery AGAIN with ships, by the way whereof I spoke unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again (if ye keep The Covenant): and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy [you].

Please note well that the ONLY Way to not currently be "under the curse of The Law" is to keep The Law. It is an either/or PROMISE from our Creator.

It is the curse of The Law (the penalty clause for NOT keeping The Law) that is the penalty for sin/breaking The Law (1 John 3:4). And, as can be seen from the list above, sinning (breaking The Law) brings about DEATH AND DESTRUCTION, both physically and spiritually.
 

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In case anyone may mistakenly believe that The Law only applied to the ancient Israelites, and somehow not to everyone on this planet, please see for yourself that EVERYONE WHO HAS EVER LIVED HAS A COVENANT PROMISE WITH GOD TO KEEP HIS LAW:-

Deuteronomy 29:9-15
29:9 Keep therefore the words of this Covenant, and DO them, that ye may prosper in all that ye do.
29:10 Ye stand this day all of you before the "I AM" your God; your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, [with] all the men of Israel,
29:11 Your little ones, your wives, and thy stranger that [is] in thy camp, from the hewer of thy wood unto the drawer of thy water:
29:12 That thou shouldest enter into Covenant with the "I AM" thy God, and into His Oath, which the "I AM" thy God maketh with thee this day:
29:13 That He may establish thee to day for a people unto Himself, and [that] He may be unto thee a God, as He hath said unto thee, and as He hath sworn unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel.
29:14 Neither with you only do I make this Covenant and this Oath;
29:15 But with [him] that standeth here with us this day before the "I AM" our God, and also with [him] that [is] not here with us this day [thy children, in PERPETUITY]:

Unfortunately, most today have no fear of God (Matt. 10:28), and very little if any faith (Luke 18:8), and thus are suffering under the oppression and injustice that can ONLY come from a lack of knowledge of God and His Law.

Hosea 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of MY Knowledge: because thou hast rejected My Knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to Me: seeing thou hast forgotten The Law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

This is why Christ -- The Sun of Righteousness and the Light of the World -- promised to return right before Judgment Day (the Great and Dreadful Day of the "I AM") to help us to REMEMBER and return to The Law of God, so that we can avoid the fate that awaits most of mankind for our refusal to keep The Law.

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and ALL that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 4:1 above for details of the curse).
 
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"Christianity" -- which would more aptly be named "Paulianity" or "Churchianity" because it is based upon the MISINTERPRETATIONS of the letters attributed to Paul and the abominable practice of going to church, like the heathens and the hypocrites do (Matt. 6:5-8) -- satanically teaches people the exact opposite of what Christ teaches, i.e. the LIE that The Law is allegedly no longer in effect.

The Gospel Truth about The Law -- as we have it directly from Christ -- is that The Law will NEVER pass away, and thus THE LAW IS STILL IN EFFECT TODAY.

Matthew 5:17-20
5:17 Think NOT that I am come to destroy The Law (1), or the Prophets (who all taught The Law - 2): I am NOT come to destroy (3), but to fulfill [fully preach The Law (The Torah) and fulfill the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah].
5:18 For verily (truthfully) I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till ALL be fulfilled (obviously neither heaven nor earth have passed away - 4).
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in The Kingdom of heaven (a condemnation of any who teach The Law has been done away with - 5): but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in The Kingdom of heaven (high praise for those that keep and teach The Law is still in effect - 6).
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians, ye shall in no case enter into The Kingdom of heaven (i.e. no lawyer or politician, who make up, administer and enforce unlawful man-made legislation, traditions, doctrines, etc., in direct violation of God's Law -- will EVER enter the Kingdom of heaven unless they repent and return to The Law - 7)

That's 7 times in just 4 verses that Christ made it crystal clear that no one should even think that The Law is not still in effect, much less try to con others into believing such lies.

If you're not keeping The Law/Commandments of God, then you don't believe nor love Christ.

John 14:15 If ye love me, KEEP my COMMANDments.

This is EXACTLY what ALL of God's Prophets and Messengers have conveyed to us, just as Christ, His Disciples and the Apostles, including Paul, told us about The Law/Commandments of God. It is only by misreading, misunderstanding or intentionally misconstruing the letters of Paul -- through ignorance of the Scriptures -- that one can come to the very obviously WRONG conclusion that we allegedly cannot keep The Law nor have to anymore.
 

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If we look at what Paul actually said, we find Paul telling us that, after crucifying his "self" (mortifying the flesh/the "old man"), he himself was living by The Law, which Paul described as "holy, just and good", and that he was establishing The Law everywhere he went, because only DOERS of The Law shall be justified upon Christ's return.

Romans 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind (Being) I myself serve The Law of God; but with the flesh (human) the law of sin*.

*which is why the flesh (human/"self") MUST be crucified DAILY (Matt. 10:38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Luke 14:26-27, Gal. 2:20, Sura 6:162, Sura 92:18-21), as Paul reiterated numerous times

Galatians 2:20 My "Self" is crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I (the "Self"), but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

1 Corinthians 9:27 But I keep my body under [control], and bring [the "Self"] into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

Romans 8:13-14
8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body (crucify the "Self"), ye shall live.
8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the (adopted) sons of God.

Here is what Paul said about The Law/Commandments of God:-

Romans 7:12-16
7:12 Wherefore The Law [is] holy, and the Commandment holy, and just, and good.
7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? GOD FORBID. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the Commandment might become exceeding sinful.
7:14 For we know that The Law is spiritual (for my spirit): but my "Self" is carnal, sold under sin.
7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto The Law that [it (The Law) is] good.

This should explain why Paul was establishing The Law everywhere he went.

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void The Law through faith? GOD FORBID: yea, we establish The Law.

Romans 2:13 (For not the hearers of The Law [are] just before God, but the DOERS of The Law (The Torah) shall be justified.

Why then do so many "Christians" pretend that Paul wasn't keeping The Law and establishing The Good, Holy and Just Law/Commandments of God, for everyone's benefit everywhere Paul went? BECAUSE THEIR DEEDS ARE EVIL AND THEY DON'T WANT THEM TO COME INTO THE LIGHT, THAT THEY MIGHT BE HEALED (John 3:19-21).

It should be obvious that any of the other things Paul said about The Law could not possibly contradict his statements above IF they are correctly understood, nor could they possibly contradict the core Gospel Message of Christ, which is we all need to keep The Law/Commandments of God, without which there is no Love (Mark 12:29-31).

Hence Peter's warning about the unlearned, who don't know what they're talking about, preaching to others the LIE that we allegedly no longer have to keep The Law, or that The Law is supposedly "the ministration of condemnation and death", or that the wages of sin are allegedly are NOT the path to death and destruction (Rom 6:23), all of which is utterly ridiculous and untrue.

2 Peter 3:13-18
3:13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new Earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
3:14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found by Him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the Wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
3:16 As also in all [his] epistles (letters), speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other Scriptures, unto their OWN destruction.
3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know [these things] before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.
3:18 But grow in grace, and [in] the Knowledge of our Lord and Christ the Saviour. To him [be] glory both now and for ever. Amen.
 
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"Christianity" -- which would more aptly be named "Paulianity" or "Churchianity" because it is based upon the MISINTERPRETATIONS of the letters attributed to Paul and the abominable practice of going to church, like the heathens and the hypocrites do (Matt. 6:5-8) -- satanically teaches people the exact opposite of what Christ teaches, i.e. the LIE that The Law is allegedly no longer in effect.
Allow me to emphasize something for you, You know Jesus said He came to fulfill the law, right? Look :

Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Romans 13:8‭-‬10

Christians don't "ignore" the law, but fulfill the law by following Jesus commands to love God and one another like ourselves. The change that needs to happen inside us is accomplished by the Holy Spirit writting God's commands in our minds thus changing our behaviours.

"clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart. And we have such trust through Christ toward God. Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."
2 Corinthians 3:3‭-‬6

Hence it's way easier and more beneficial to live by the Spirit than trying to be law keepers like Pharisees plus God's presence makes you live an happier life aswell.
When you have a real fellowship with God through prayer and scripture meditation, your sensitivity to sin increases so much you just can't allow yourself to break God's commandments. Sometimes your sensitivity to evil is so high you simply can't just watch some kinds of movie nor listen to any kind of music even if you tried because that's the Spirit working in you to seek good things.

Maybe you have no idea what i'm talking about but I promise you this is 100% real and I just don't understand why God believers wouldn't want to have this Helper in their lives. All you have to do is welcome the Holy Spirit but first you have to give up your pride, ego and reasonings stopping you from receiving this blessing in your life.
 

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Allow me to emphasize something for you, You know Jesus said He came to fulfill the law, right? Look :

Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Romans 13:8‭-‬10

Christians don't "ignore" the law, but fulfill the law by following Jesus commands to love God and one another like ourselves. The change that needs to happen inside us is accomplished by the Holy Spirit writting God's commands in our minds thus changing our behaviours.

"clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart. And we have such trust through Christ toward God. Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."
2 Corinthians 3:3‭-‬6

Hence it's way easier and more beneficial to live by the Spirit than trying to be law keepers like Pharisees plus God's presence makes you live an happier life aswell.
When you have a real fellowship with God through prayer and scripture meditation, your sensitivity to sin increases so much you just can't allow yourself to break God's commandments. Sometimes your sensitivity to evil is so high you simply can't just watch some kinds of movie nor listen to any kind of music even if you tried because that's the Spirit working in you to seek good things.

Maybe you have no idea what i'm talking about but I promise you this is 100% real and I just don't understand why God believers wouldn't want to have this Helper in their lives. All you have to do is welcome the Holy Spirit but first you have to give up your pride, ego and reasonings stopping you from receiving this blessing in your life.
...what he doesn't understand is that by the measure of the law we are all guilty, even him. That's what Paul meant when he said that every mouth is stopped when The Law is brought forth. It doesn't matter if someone scores a 30 or a 60 or an 80 or even a 99 out of 100 they all stand in the same boat, because they all still end up falling short and missing the mark. It's like someone on death row having occasion to boast about being less guilty then the other individuals who scored lower on the test. Obviously the boasting is foolishness, because it doesn't change the fact the person who scored high is still on death row(along with everyone else). He seeks to impose The Law on the saints and in the process make them transgressors all over again. He doesn't get that under the law sin is only recorded and imputed and every score short of the perfect score of 100 is utterly worthless and brings a guilty verdict and condemnation as result.
 

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Allow me to emphasize something for you, You know Jesus said He came to fulfill the law, right?
Christ did fully preach The Law and fulfill the Prophecies about His Coming in the body of Jesus. But Christ very obviously did NOT do away with the requirement for all of us to keep The Law. Do you understand that please?

Look :

Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
Romans 13:8‭-‬10
And vice-versa; i.e. only through the fulfilling of The Law can one love another/your neighbour. The passage is literally quoting directly from The Law (Exod. 20:3-17; Deut. 5:7-21), to illustrate that if you keep The Law it's impossible to harm your neighbour. Do you understand that please?

Christians don't "ignore" the law, but fulfill the law by following Jesus commands to love God and one another like ourselves. The change that needs to happen inside us is accomplished by the Holy Spirit writting God's commands in our minds thus changing our behaviours.
If that were true, then you and the other "Christians" wouldn't be here arguing against keeping The Law. It's impossible to truly love God and our neighbour as much or more than ourselves without keeping The Law.

And yes, that can only be accomplished by the Holy Spirit writing God's Law upon our hearts and minds, so that we remember them and NEVER forget them, but it still requires our obedience. And it is only through that obedience to God that it becomes evident that the Holy Spirit has written The Law on one's heart and in their mind. Do you understand that please?

"clearly you are an epistle of Christ, ministered by us, written not with ink but by the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of flesh, that is, of the heart. And we have such trust through Christ toward God. Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think of anything as being from ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."
2 Corinthians 3:3‭-‬6

Hence it's way easier and more beneficial to live by the Spirit than trying to be law keepers like Pharisees plus God's presence makes you live an happier life aswell.
Anyone who isn't living by God's Perfect Law, which is Holy, Just and Good (Rom. 7:12-16), is very obviously NOT living by God's Holy Spirit (Matt. 7:16-20), or it would be doing Its perfect work inside of them.

1 John 3:4-10
3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.
3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our (past) sins; and in him is no sin.
3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he (Christ) is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever DOETH NOT righteousness is NOT of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

Do you understand this please?

When you have a real fellowship with God through prayer and scripture meditation, your sensitivity to sin increases so much you just can't allow yourself to break God's commandments.
Agreed.

Sometimes your sensitivity to evil is so high you simply can't just watch some kinds of movie nor listen to any kind of music even if you tried because that's the Spirit working in you to seek good things.
Agreed. And Father (God) rewards those who are striving to keep His Law with even more spiritual vision and insight, which itself provides even further motivation to strive even harder to obey God.

Keeping The Law is really only the beginning. Eventually, one has to recognize Father's Small, Still Voice guiding them in the moment, not only teaching us but warning us of impending danger before it actually happens. That's how amazing the strait and narrow path is that leads to Life, which sadly very few choose.

Maybe you have no idea what i'm talking about but I promise you this is 100% real and I just don't understand why God believers wouldn't want to have this Helper in their lives.
Why wouldn't someone show God their Love and Belief through their obedience, as we have been COMMANDED to do? Can you really not see that disobedience to God is sinful/evil, which is the source of ALL of our problems, as sin (breaking The Law) SEPARATES us from God? Only through discipline and obedience can we draw closer to God (James 4:8).

All you have to do is welcome the Holy Spirit but first you have to give up your pride, ego
Agreed. And IF the Holy Spirit actually DWELLS inside of someone, they will invariably strive to keep The Law God gave us to protect us from evil and to set us free from poverty, oppression, injustice, disease and death, CERTAIN that God knows best and always keeps His Promises.

and reasonings stopping you from receiving this blessing in your life.
God is The Small, Still Voice of Reason, and His Law is a Blessing to ALL that keep it, exactly as God has promised. Do you understand that please?
 

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...what he doesn't understand is that by the measure of the law we are all guilty, even him.
What you don't seem to understand is how arrogant it is to claim that God is powerless to effect positive change in our lives, as if we are incapable of keeping His Law WITH His Help. Nothing could be further from the Truth (Matt. 19:26).

That's what Paul meant when he said that every mouth is stopped when The Law is brought forth. It doesn't matter if someone scores a 30 or a 60 or an 80 or even a 99 out of 100 they all stand in the same boat, because they all still end up falling short and missing the mark.
What you don't seem to understand is how arrogant and ungrateful it is to falsely claim that we are supposedly incapable of keeping The Law that our Perfect, Just, Fair and Loving Creator gave to us to protect us from evil. The "deeds of The Law" that Paul refers to in Romans 3 are the substitute animal sacrifices, by which no flesh shall be justified. It again is interesting to note that Paul concludes that chapter by telling us that faith in no way voids The Law, which he (Paul) was establishing everywhere he went.

Also interesting to note is what Paul said in the previous chapter of the same letter to the Romans:

2:13 (For not the hearers of The Law [are] just before God, but the DOERS of The Law (The Torah) shall be justified.

A humble servant obeys their Master, and certainly doesn't expect to be rewarded for their continued disobedience. And a Master, Who went to the all of the effort to have His Son pay off someone's debt would certainly not tolerate an arrogant and ungrateful servant who decided to run that debt up yet again.

It's like someone on death row having occasion to boast about being less guilty then the other individuals who scored lower on the test.
It's interesting that you use this analogy, because all of us are actually on death row, awaiting final Judgment before Christ (John 5:22). And how will Christ judge us? BY OUR WORKS (Matt. 16:27), whether they be good or evil, as good and evil are defined in Father's Law (John 7:16-17).

Anyone who is still sinning/breaking The Law on Judgment Day, will have proven, beyond any reasonable doubt, that they have no gratitude whatsoever for Christ's Sacrifice.

Obviously the boasting is foolishness, because it doesn't change the fact the person who scored high is still on death row(along with everyone else).
What's amazing is that someone boasting they don't have to obey God, but can declare themselves to be "saved", is somehow not seen as utter foolishness. NONE of us will mark our own report cards; that's Christ's Job (Matt. 25:31-46; John 5:22).

Even worse, someone judging Father's Perfect Law of Liberty to be "the ministration of condemnation and death", is the height of arrogance. Arrogance masks one's own ignorance, including the ignorance of one's own arrogance, which is what makes it so dangerous.

He seeks to impose The Law on the saints and in the process make them transgressors all over again.
THERE ARE NO SAINTS here on Earth. There isn't ONE righteous individual on this entire prison planet for the criminally insane.

It is God Who has given us The Law, and COMMANDED us to keep it, for our own benefit. The ONLY Way someone can become a transgressor IS BY BREAKING THE LAW.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.

Conversely, the ONLY Way to stop being a transgressor of The Law IS BY KEEPING THE LAW.

He doesn't get that under the law sin is only recorded and imputed and every score short of the perfect score of 100 is utterly worthless and brings a guilty verdict and condemnation as result.
THIS is what brings condemnation, according to Christ:-

John 3:19-21
3:19 And THIS is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil.
3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the Light, neither cometh to the Light, lest his deeds should be revealed.
3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
 
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A good lawyer could maybe get a lot of us off claiming that many are trying to be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone. Also many could plead the fifth and say we would rather not be forced to testify against ourselves. And what about diminished capacity defense or insanity defense. We can claim that we were driven insane by Satan and didn't know what we were doing. And what about a jury trial made up of our peers. Reasonable doubt could be proven for many. Many could claim we committed most of our crimes when we were minors and didn't know any better. As a last resort we can claim we are autistic and couldn't read the Bible because we lack reading comprehension skills because we attended public schools. Also we are dyslexic. If all else fails we can try and ask for mercy from the court and promise to do better next time if we can get work release or community service. Please don't judge us too harshly and what good does sending us to Hell do if many of us just committed minor infractions and nothing real serious. We can still be saved and if you send us to Hell only Satan will benefit. Give us another chance. Everyone deserves a second chance.
 
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What you don't seem to understand is how arrogant it is to claim that God is powerless to effect positive change in our lives, as if we are incapable of keeping His Law WITH His Help. Nothing could be further from the Truth (Matt. 19:26).


What you don't seem to understand is how arrogant and ungrateful it is to falsely claim that we are supposedly incapable of keeping The Law that our Perfect, Just, Fair and Loving Creator gave to us to protect us from evil. The "deeds of The Law" that Paul refers to in Romans 3 are the substitute animal sacrifices, by which no flesh shall be justified. It again is interesting to note that Paul concludes that chapter by telling us that faith in no way voids The Law, which he (Paul) was establishing everywhere he went.

Also interesting to note is what Paul said in the previous chapter of the same letter to the Romans:

2:13 (For not the hearers of The Law [are] just before God, but the DOERS of The Law (The Torah) shall be justified.

A humble servant obeys their Master, and certainly doesn't expect to be rewarded for their continued disobedience. And a Master, Who went to the all of the effort to have His Son pay off someone's debt would certainly not tolerate an arrogant and ungrateful servant who decided to run that debt up yet again.


It's interesting that you use this analogy, because all of us are actually on death row, awaiting final Judgment before Christ (John 5:22). And how will Christ judge us? BY OUR WORKS (Matt. 16:27), whether they be good or evil, as good and evil are defined in Father's Law (John 7:16-17).

Anyone who is still sinning/breaking The Law on Judgment Day, will have proven, beyond any reasonable doubt, that they have no gratitude whatsoever for Christ's Sacrifice.


What's amazing is that someone boasting they don't have to obey God, but can declare themselves to be "saved", is somehow not seen as utter foolishness. NONE of us will mark our own report cards; that's Christ's Job (Matt. 25:31-36; John 5:22).

Even worse, someone judging Father's Perfect Law of Liberty to be "the ministration of condemnation and death", is the height of arrogance. Arrogance masks one's own ignorance, including the ignorance of one's own arrogance, which is what makes it so dangerous.


THERE ARE NO SAINTS here on Earth. There isn't ONE righteous individual on this entire prison planet for the criminally insane.

It is God Who has given us The Law, and COMMANDED us to keep it, for our own benefit. The ONLY Way someone can become a transgressor IS BY BREAKING THE LAW.

1 John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.

Conversely, the ONLY Way to stop being a transgressor of The Law IS BY KEEPING THE LAW.


THIS
is what brings condemnation, according to Christ:-

John 3:19-21
3:19 And THIS is the condemnation, that Light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil.
3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the Light, neither cometh to the Light, lest his deeds should be revealed.
3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the Light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
Did you sin this past week? Was there even a single day you went without sinning?
 

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It's also Paul and John who refer to God's people(on earth) as the saints. You can just simply do a word search on how many times the word is used in the NT.

And no, everybody who has been redeemed is not on death row. That's a flawed interpretation of the scriptures and failure to understand the saints position in Christ.
 

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Did you sin this past week? Was there even a single day you went without sinning?
Why do you need to worry about what someone else is doing? Isn't this just more arrogance, to distract you from what YOU should be doing?

If you actually believe The Law -- which we KNOW to be holy, just and good -- is somehow evil and death, then you are clearly seeing everything upside down and backwards.

What have you possibly got to lose (except the evil/sin within) by drawing CLOSER to Father (God) through keeping His Law as Christ COMMANDS? As a personal testimony there is nothing more amazing or more rewarding in this world than drawing closer to Father and spending time in His Presence. It is something that one can and should be striving to do every single minute of every single day, and the more one does it, the more one never wants to do anything else.

It is that amazing connection with Father through Christ that is being shared with you.

It's also Paul and John who refer to God's people(on earth) as the saints. You can just simply do a word search on how many times the word is used in the NT.
Check your translation and look at what the word actually is in the Greek text.

One example from: https://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/1-2.htm

If there isn't one righteous individual on this planet (Ps. 53:1-3; Rom. 3:10-12), then there are no "saints". That should hopefully explain why no one has ever ascended to heaven except for Christ, Who came from heaven (John 3:13).

And no, everybody who has been redeemed is not on death row. That's a flawed interpretation of the scriptures and failure to understand the saints position in Christ.
That's you trying to be a judge again, instead of leaving that job to Christ and Father's Law to sort out. Please stop doing that, for your sake as well as others you may mislead with that nonsense.

We should all be on our very best behaviour at ALL times, and the very best way to do that is to KEEP THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, to show Christ we love Him and that He didn't suffer the agony of the cross in vain.

It should be VERY humbling to know that there are only 144,000 who will be redeemed from the Earth, which should likewise serve as motivation to do better each and every day.
 

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Why do you need to worry about what someone else is doing? Isn't this just more arrogance, to distract you from what YOU should be doing?

If you actually believe The Law -- which we KNOW to be holy, just and good -- is somehow evil and death, then you are clearly seeing everything upside down and backwards.

What have you possibly got to lose (except the evil/sin within) by drawing CLOSER to Father (God) through keeping His Law as Christ COMMANDS? As a personal testimony there is nothing more amazing or more rewarding in this world than drawing closer to Father and spending time in His Presence. It is something that one can and should be striving to do every single minute of every single day, and the more one does it, the more one never wants to do anything else.

It is that amazing connection with Father through Christ that is being shared with you.


Check your translation and look at what the word actually is in the Greek text.

One example from: https://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/1-2.htm

If there isn't one righteous individual on this planet (Ps. 53:1-3; Rom. 3:10-12), then there are no "saints". That should hopefully explain why no one has ever ascended to heaven except for Christ, Who came from heaven (John 3:13).


That's you trying to be a judge again, instead of leaving that job to Christ and Father's Law to sort out. Please stop doing that, for your sake as well as others you may mislead with that nonsense.

We should all be on our very best behaviour at ALL times, and the very best way to do that is to KEEP THE LAW/COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, to show Christ we love Him and that He didn't suffer the agony of the cross in vain.

It should be VERY humbling to know that there are only 144,000 who will be redeemed from the Earth, which should likewise serve as motivation to do better each and every day.
How is that arrogance? You acctually just judged me. I asked a simple question and I get the same response everytime.
If that question makes me arrogant then does that mean your unwillingness to even confess to sinning this past week make you proud? Most honest and humble Christians could tell you (at the very least) they didn't have a perfect week and fell short plenty of times. You on the other hand can't even confess to having a less than perfect week. Christ acctually used The Law to point out people's hypocrisy in order to help them. So did Paul. He used it to point out the absurdity of their interpretation, because correcting them doctrinally certainly didn't open their eyes.
 

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The problem with modern society is we do not keep the law. What are we talking about?

We have a society where sodomites are exalted and we look down on families. What are we talking about?

Yeshua did not do away with the law. And he was God’s son— not the actual Father.

Yeshua and his sacrifice offer us grace— not a pass to live in Sodom and Egypt. Though the society we live in is Sodom and we are in Egypt— slavery or if you prefer bondage.
 

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A good lawyer could maybe get a lot of us off claiming that many are trying to be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone. Also many could plead the fifth and say we would rather not be forced to testify against ourselves. And what about diminished capacity defense or insanity defense. We can claim that we were driven insane by Satan and didn't know what we were doing. And what about a jury trial made up of our peers. Reasonable doubt could be proven for many. Many could claim we committed most of our crimes when we were minors and didn't know any better. As a last resort we can claim we are autistic and couldn't read the Bible because we lack reading comprehension skills because we attended public schools. Also we are dyslexic. If all else fails we can try and ask for mercy from the court and promise to do better next time if we can get work release or community service. Please don't judge us too harshly and what good does sending us to Hell do if many of us just committed minor infractions and nothing real serious. We can still be saved and if you send us to Hell only Satan will benefit. Give us another chance. Everyone deserves a second chance.
Interestingly, Christ said that not one single lawyer (scribe) or politician (pharisee), who were also the priests 2000 years ago, will enter the Kingdom of heaven unless they and do an about face and repent/stop breaking The Law (Matt. 5:20). Making-up, administering or enforcing any man-made legislation, rules, doctrines, statutes, "codes", etc. is a capital crime under The Law that God gave us.

Our actions over the past 6000 years have all been recorded, and that record will be read back on Judgment Day, when we will have absolutely no excuses or say so in what happens. The insanity defense therefore won't work. We chose to do evil rather than good of our own free-will.

Do you believe any true court of law would not hold the last two U.S. presidents, Fauci, the pharmaceutical companies, the hospital staff, doctors and nurses that administered the poisons in every country accountable for the genocide they've conspired to create and carry out on behalf of their bankster overlords and the rest of the parasitic ruling criminal class?
 

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The problem with modern society is we do not keep the law. What are we talking about?

We have a society where sodomites are exalted and we look down on families. What are we talking about?

Yeshua did not do away with the law. And he was God’s son— not the actual Father.

Yeshua and his sacrifice offer us grace— not a pass to live in Sodom and Egypt. Though the society we live in is Sodom and we are in Egypt— slavery or if you prefer bondage.
If you are suggesting we put everyone under The Law that would mean the stoning of such people. That's what The Law says. We can't pick and choose which parts of God's law we want to impose.
 

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Interestingly, Christ said that not one single lawyer (scribe) or politician (pharisee), who were also the priests 2000 years ago, will enter the Kingdom of heaven unless they and do an about face and repent/stop breaking The Law (Matt. 5:20). Making-up, administering or enforcing any man-made legislation, rules, doctrines, statutes, "codes", etc. is a capital crime under The Law that God gave us.

Our actions over the past 6000 years have all been recorded, and that record will be read back on Judgment Day, when we will have absolutely no excuses or say so in what happens. The insanity defense therefore won't work. We chose to do evil rather than good of our own free-will.

Do you believe any true court of law would not hold the last two U.S. presidents, Fauci, the pharmaceutical companies, the hospital staff, doctors and nurses that administered the poisons in every country accountable for the genocide they've conspired to create and carry out on behalf of their bankster overlords and the rest of the parasitic ruling criminal class?
Should people who fail to keep the Sabbath be stoned?
What about people who dishonor and rebel against their parents?
What about people who take God's name in vain?

God's law demands these people be put to death.
 

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How is that arrogance? You acctually just judged me.
Upside down and backwards again. You have been repeatedly told that Christ is the only Judge and that He will judge everyone according to our actions, i.e. whether we have learned to be good, as good is defined by God in His Law, or whether we have continued to do evil (break The Law). That isn't judging you; that's merely sharing with you Who the Scriptures tell us will judge us and by what criteria the Scriptures tell us we will be judged.

I asked a simple question and I get the same response everytime.
You(?) have been asking me to judge myself, which no one should be doing, and then act surprised when you(?) are unable to trick me into doing that.

If that question makes me arrogant then does that mean your unwillingness to even confess to sinning this past week make you proud?
As above please. Following Christ's COMMANDS (Matt. 7:1-4 includes judging one's own self) with a healthy fear of God is the path to humility and wisdom, whereas disobedience is driven by arrogance.

Most honest and humble Christians could tell you (at the very least) they didn't have a perfect week and fell short plenty of times.
There's no such thing as an honest or humble "Christian" according to Christ.

You on the other hand can't even confess to having a less than perfect week.
As above please. Judging is NOT my job, nor is it yours.

Christ acctually used The Law to point out people's hypocrisy in order to help them. So did Paul.
Because people were instead following their own made-up traditions, rules and doctrines , which make the Commandments of God of no effect. That's why making up our own traditions, rules and doctrines is a capital crime according to God's Law.

He used it to point out the absurdity of their interpretation, because correcting them doctrinally certainly didn't open their eyes.
Agreed. Just as is being done with the upside down and backwards doctrines you are attempting to promote while attacking The Law Father gave to us as a BLESSING to those who keep it.
 
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