I rarely comment on these threads anymore because, well, life is hard enough without arguing online with total strangers. That being said...
Though this thread is completely derailed and is not really about abortion I felt compelled to comment on the discussion that is taking place. So, this is such a hard subject to discuss. Most folks on the forum know that I'm a follower of Jesus Christ, but I was not always... <<taking a deep breath here>> When the topic of abortion comes up there is this sort of standard argument that takes place. But I find that women who have gone through with this rarely speak up about the the reality of the horror and trauma of abortion because of shame. If they speak up then the conservatives will shake their heads and the liberals will just scream and scream like they do. But if one really cares about women then they should be honest about the reality of abortion. It is awful. It is not a fun, liberating experience. The negative effects on a woman who goes through this "procedure" are intense and can last a lifetime. It's physically and emotionally traumatic. I don't care how hardened the women is, it's difficult to go through.
Of course from a biblical standpoint abortion is murder. I don't think there is any disputing that. But if I was arguing from a non Christian perspective I would say the system that carries out these procedures is extremely broken and corrupt. They could not care less about women, and I know from personal experience... So, I went to the hospital because I had no insurance and I knew something was wrong. I had just overcome a hard opioid addiction, cold turkey (still clean after 13 years). I was pretty surprised when I found out I was pregnant, for reasons I won't disclose. But after hours and hours of waiting they couldn't tell me what was going on. So around 6 a.m I just left. Then I was panicking. I was having major symptoms of a pregnancy gone wrong. So, I went to "the clinic." When they did the "exam" I tried to get answers about what was wrong with me. They said they couldn't tell me that, they could only do what they do there. When they handed me my pills I knew in my heart I shouldn't do it, but I did. They just sent me on my way. The cost of the "medicine" $600 and change. Go figure.
I took the pills as directed. At first it wasn't too bad, then it got worse. Much worse. I will not go into detail but I almost bled to death, alone. When I was able to call the next day the lady on the phone was unconcerned. She acted like what I was going through was completely normal. I can assure you nothing about what I experienced should be considered "normal". I bled for weeks. I couldn't stand up without passing out. I was white as a sheet. Now I know I was badly in need of a blood transfusion. But I never went to the hospital and endured it alone. Four days in (I was not a Christian at the time mind you) I knew I had done something horribly wrong. Not to me, but to God. I was sobbing, consumed by guilt. I looked in the mirror and I told God I was sorry for what I did. He knew it wasn't because of what I was going through physically but it was because I knew in my heart I had made the wrong choice and was repentant. And as God is my witness I felt a huge weight come off of me and I began the healing process. But I put myself in that position. That was my fault and I was suffering the consequences of my actions.
However, if there is an extreme case like r*pe, or there is incest r*pe, of course this is absolutely horrible. Anyone who can't feel for the pregnant women or girls who are forced into these situations has no heart in them. Or maybe there's some underlying health issue where the mother's life is possibly at risk. This is a very hard situation. I would say at best, again, from a non Christian perspective these procedures should be performed in a hospital only. The woman should receive free counseling afterwards if she wants. And only for the extreme situations that have been highlighted in this discussion. r*pe, incest r*pe, major deformities effecting fetus or mom. Abortions are NOT birth control. A life is being terminated. Period. I've known girls who have had multiple abortions and you can see it in their eyes, they're all hollowed out.
Anyway, when I hear women defending planned parenthood I wonder if they really know what they are fighting for. I would not wish my experience on any woman. It was beyond awful. I almost died. It took months to fully recover. And I have never fully emotionally recovered. They didn't warn me about any of this. They just handed me my brown paper bag, took my money and sent me on my way. Pure evil. My heart sinks like an anchor when I think about how many women must have died alone like I almost did.