The American “Coup d’etat”

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justjess said:
Anarchists believe in mutual aid. Anarchists don’t believe in a government. Anarchists stuck living under a government believing that same government that takes their money regardless of their consent to it should in fact use that money for the betterment of the people stuck paying it instead of blowing up children on the other side of the world isn’t hypocritical - it’s actually nationalist your just too damn stupid to see it.
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I was talking about the Antifa/Valerio type of anarchists.

There are anarchists in the spirit of Rand and Bakunin. Both on opposite sides of the spectrum and not defined by your partisan interpretations.
 
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vancityeagle said:
the ones treated with paper gloves were the ones allowed to enter one of the most important government buildings in America to take selfies with sympathetic police, and allowed to roam around the halls of Congress looking for the politicians they didn't like. Its a surprise only one of them was actually killed, while with BLM we had peaceful protesters shot with rubber bullets and tear gas so Trump could have a photo op, snatched off the streets by unmarked officers, and some face 10 years in prison.
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Also why would you get into a shoot out with police when you know many of them ARE ON YOUR SIDE.
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Just wondering…

Why haven’t ALL those police officers who opened the doors and took selfies with the rioters been arrested & charged for being enablers (of a “coup”) or deemed guilty by association for their actions if what happened at the Capitol was as deadly serious as MSM is portraying it?

Imagine that you lived in a gated community and I was the security guard at the main gate. A busload of burglars rolls around and I simply opened the gates for them to walk in and accomplish their task. Wouldn’t the estate management conclude that I was part of the whole plan simply because of the way I acted and thus summarily fired from my job and even charged? Many impregnable cities in antiquity fell when an “insider”/traitor opened the gates for the invaders. If the city didn’t fall, the reigning monarch would swiftly execute the “insider” once located.

Therefore, if this was really a coup (I refuse to call it that just because MSM calls it that), which is obviously something very serious then ALL those “sympathetic police officers” would be under investigation/charged by now. Except that all we’ve heard is that the “coup” happened partly because of a policing crisis (understaffed). I mean, we are told that some of the rioters were out for blood…walking in with guns and ziptie cuffs ready to take hostages. Doesn’t this seriously implicate those who stood on the side and let them in? They are as easily identifiable because they weren’t wearing masks/covered up.

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Iam not inclined to believe any of this anymore than I would be inclined to believe that Russia hacked the 2016 election and installed Trump as a Kremlin puppet. So what…the republicans should launch Chinagate investigations? It just seems like espionage games played on the American mind by American Intelligence. Even before the election, those intelligence heads were saying that Russia, China and Iran are going to interfere.
"In addition to the apparent consensus on how foreign meddling will occur during the 2020 election, there is also agreement regarding which countries will be responsible. Again, this is largely based on statements made by U.S. national security officials. For instance, the joint statement issued last November by the DOJ, DOD, DHS, DNI, FBI, NSA, and CISA regarding 2020 election security, states that “Russia, China, Iran, and other foreign malicious actors all will seek to interfere in the voting process or influence voter perceptions” before adding “at this time we have no evidence.”
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justjess said:
I do in fact no tons of people on all sides of the equation. I’m Italian and my immediate family alone is extensive. Plus I’m in my 30’s and have lived in three states in all different types of communities... you tend to come in contact with all sorts and accumulate connections throughout life. Have you not? That’s sad.

what’s silent about the national guard shutting them down? Nothing.

you guys want to throw out cliches and stereotypes that don’t even make sense when used together but go ahead if it makes you feel better.

the wealthy liberal elite don’t need government handouts, the anarchists don’t believe in government period. Maybe insult people in a logical manner if you don’t want me to comment. Or maybe give up your idea of running me off because if it hasn’t happened yet YOU certainly aren’t going to be able to accomplish it.
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I am hammering points home not trying to run you off. More victimhood. You tell us so many things we already know as if it is something earth-shattering or enlightening. And you sort of imply that you've experienced everything;)
 
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DavidSon said:
You raise an important issue. Our ideals are not the same as real-world movements. Many of us are ideologically probably anarchists and extreme libertarians. The question is how such philosophies can express themselves in politics; the answer is they usually can't.

Libertarians believe in free markets but capitalism has become a rigged, corrupt system of exchange. Our total dependence on financial banking institutions can barely even be called capitalism anymore.

Anarchism is a highly idealistic belief in shared independence but that energy is manipulated by the rulers so we're consumed by trivial issues. Socialism is another mirage, at least for a plutocracy like the US. The oligarchs are manipulating people with good intentions to ultimately serve their agenda. International anarchism is a beautiful concept but in real term that will equal a corporate, UN governed, tech-surveilled prison planet.
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It seems interesting that no matter how many times we are played with divide and conquer tactics, we buy into it. The clip below is a memorable one from a film that's now approaching its 45th birthday.

Jensen's speech from the 1976 film "Network"

If instead of people defending to one political system over another, we realized the same group of people created all three for the same purpose -- to divide and conquer -- maybe we would be getting somewhere.

If instead of people defending one political party over another, we realized the same group of people created different political parties for the same purpose -- to divide and conquer -- maybe we would be getting somewhere.

Does anything really change from one administration to another?

Doesn't a bird need BOTH its left wing and its right wing to be able to fly? No wonder we are still here, grounded on this prison-planet, instead of soaring above it.
 
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Artful Revealer said:
I was talking about the Antifa/Valerio type of anarchists.

There are anarchists in the spirit of Rand and Bakunin. Both on opposite sides of the spectrum and not defined by your partisan interpretations.
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And which one of those believes in and desperately wants government handouts? Go ahead. Enlighten me.

Valerio believes in mutual aid. So if your statement was about him you are mistaken. If your just making up shit about a group of people you don’t know to defame them... well. Not shocking.
 
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The Zone said:
I am hammering points home not trying to run you off. More victimhood. You tell us so many things we already know as if it is something earth-shattering or enlightening. And you sort of imply that you've experienced everything;)
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What exactly did I point out that was supposed to be earth shattering? If I posted something derogatory about trump supporters or conservatives or Christians as a group I’d expect you to respond and tell me otherwise. I click on and there we go... liberals living in mommy’s basement, liberals wanting government handouts, liberals this, liberals that blah blah blah. So yeah, I’m going to point out the logical inconsistencies and factual inaccuracies of that.

I’d hope that you’d have experienced a wide variety of life yourself at this point. Considering your probably around the same age as me. And yeah, I’ve been all over the map throughout my life, so what? Experience is the best teacher. I never thought someone could be insulted by me knowing wealthy liberals, militia member trump supporters, and everyone in between. I don’t see how that could be insulting. I’ve posted evidence of the latter btw. The former... well. I’m not giving you my last name so idk what to tell you about that. Why are you constantly turning things into personal attacks or “explorations”? Respond to what I said or don’t. You don’t need to make it about me - that’s DRAMA.

(for the record I know plenty of wealthy conservatives and trump supporters, and a handful of potentially violent liberals too - has your head exploded yet?)
 
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Karlysymon said:
Just wondering…

Why haven’t ALL those police officers who opened the doors and took selfies with the rioters been arrested & charged for being enablers (of a “coup”) or deemed guilty by association for their actions if what happened at the Capitol was as deadly serious as MSM is portraying it?

Imagine that you lived in a gated community and I was the security guard at the main gate. A busload of burglars rolls around and I simply opened the gates for them to walk in and accomplish their task. Wouldn’t the estate management conclude that I was part of the whole plan simply because of the way I acted and thus summarily fired from my job and even charged? Many impregnable cities in antiquity fell when an “insider”/traitor opened the gates for the invaders. If the city didn’t fall, the reigning monarch would swiftly execute the “insider” once located.

Therefore, if this was really a coup (I refuse to call it that just because MSM calls it that), which is obviously something very serious then ALL those “sympathetic police officers” would be under investigation/charged by now. Except that all we’ve heard is that the “coup” happened partly because of a policing crisis (understaffed). I mean, we are told that some of the rioters were out for blood…walking in with guns and ziptie cuffs ready to take hostages. Doesn’t this seriously implicate those who stood on the side and let them in? They are as easily identifiable because they weren’t wearing masks/covered up.


Iam not inclined to believe any of this anymore than I would be inclined to believe that Russia hacked the 2016 election and installed Trump as a Kremlin puppet. So what…the republicans should launch Chinagate investigations? It just seems like espionage games played on the American mind by American Intelligence. Even before the election, those intelligence heads were saying that Russia, China and Iran are going to interfere.
"In addition to the apparent consensus on how foreign meddling will occur during the 2020 election, there is also agreement regarding which countries will be responsible. Again, this is largely based on statements made by U.S. national security officials. For instance, the joint statement issued last November by the DOJ, DOD, DHS, DNI, FBI, NSA, and CISA regarding 2020 election security, states that “Russia, China, Iran, and other foreign malicious actors all will seek to interfere in the voting process or influence voter perceptions” before adding “at this time we have no evidence.”
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How government and media are prepping America for a failed 2020 election | MR Online

Russia, China and Iran are already being blamed for using tech to undermine the 2020 election. Yet, the very technologies they are allegedly using were created by a web of companies with deep ties to Israeli intelligence.
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2 Capitol police officers have been fired, numerous officers in leadership positions have been forced to resign and atleast 15 Capitol police officers at last count are under investigation.
 
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Karlysymon said:
Just wondering…

Why haven’t ALL those police officers who opened the doors and took selfies with the rioters been arrested & charged for being enablers (of a “coup”) or deemed guilty by association for their actions if what happened at the Capitol was as deadly serious as MSM is portraying it?

Imagine that you lived in a gated community and I was the security guard at the main gate. A busload of burglars rolls around and I simply opened the gates for them to walk in and accomplish their task. Wouldn’t the estate management conclude that I was part of the whole plan simply because of the way I acted and thus summarily fired from my job and even charged? Many impregnable cities in antiquity fell when an “insider”/traitor opened the gates for the invaders. If the city didn’t fall, the reigning monarch would swiftly execute the “insider” once located.

Therefore, if this was really a coup (I refuse to call it that just because MSM calls it that), which is obviously something very serious then ALL those “sympathetic police officers” would be under investigation/charged by now. Except that all we’ve heard is that the “coup” happened partly because of a policing crisis (understaffed). I mean, we are told that some of the rioters were out for blood…walking in with guns and ziptie cuffs ready to take hostages. Doesn’t this seriously implicate those who stood on the side and let them in? They are as easily identifiable because they weren’t wearing masks/covered up.


Iam not inclined to believe any of this anymore than I would be inclined to believe that Russia hacked the 2016 election and installed Trump as a Kremlin puppet. So what…the republicans should launch Chinagate investigations? It just seems like espionage games played on the American mind by American Intelligence. Even before the election, those intelligence heads were saying that Russia, China and Iran are going to interfere.
"In addition to the apparent consensus on how foreign meddling will occur during the 2020 election, there is also agreement regarding which countries will be responsible. Again, this is largely based on statements made by U.S. national security officials. For instance, the joint statement issued last November by the DOJ, DOD, DHS, DNI, FBI, NSA, and CISA regarding 2020 election security, states that “Russia, China, Iran, and other foreign malicious actors all will seek to interfere in the voting process or influence voter perceptions” before adding “at this time we have no evidence.”
mronline.org

How government and media are prepping America for a failed 2020 election | MR Online

Russia, China and Iran are already being blamed for using tech to undermine the 2020 election. Yet, the very technologies they are allegedly using were created by a web of companies with deep ties to Israeli intelligence.
mronline.org mronline.org
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It’s divisive tactics to sucker in civilians.
The government is a bored bunch.
 
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