some random thoughts on the God of the old testament.

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Matthew 4:10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and Him ONLY shalt thou serve.
 
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you havent proven anything. a false entity hijacking the 'God' role does not make it God.

Yahweh, who regrets his own choices. Who walks around in the Garden of Eden, searching for Adam and Eve.
Yahweh, who mass murders innocent souls and even demans virgin girls as a burnt offering.
Yahweh who is jealous..
Yahweh who regrets..
Yahweh who calls pissrael 'my first born' but then later calls pissreal his WHORE WIFE.
Yahweh who later punishes his Whore Wife and mocks her saying 'look at you now, naked, no one likes you' when women are forced to eat their stillborns to survive.
it isnt God.

i can only repeat this since this moron wants to ignore everything and cling onto his fake peity.

It matters not what Jesus said or how we chose to quote scripture. I believe the Torah is DIVINE SCRIPTURE. Yet I look at the intent behind it, the test, the measure of our true ideals and so forth.
so when i see a derpy 'God' who whines and bitches about creating humans wrong, who doesnt know where Adam and Eve are hiding and needs to physically search for them. Who demands mass murder of innocents etc. i just think 'this is the part the real God expects me to differentiate myself from the rest through, because THIS is not MY GOD'

in the Quran, Allah says He taught Jesus AS the TORAH AND THE HIKMAH/WISDOM.

when you die, you'll be judged on the fact you sucked the cock of a satanic 'deity' that demanded innocent girls as a burnt offering.
'virgin girls' doesnt just mean 13-14 yr old girls, it means newborns, babies, children etc. imagine how previous that is...and these were orphaned girls who's parents had just been slaughtered.

there is nothing ive ever seen or heard of in my life more evil than this. this is worse than netenyahu's pissrael.
you're worse than a zionist.
 

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There's an old adage about cursing and vulgarity being the product of a weak-mind, trying to express itself forcefully.

The most important words in all of Scripture are found in John 3, where Jesus said the following:

John 3:3-7
3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born from above, he cannot SEE The Kingdom of God.
3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water (human) and then is born (later) from above as his spirit-"Being" (his REAL self which is NOT human), he can NOT enter into The Kingdom of God (Who is a Spirit-"Being").
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is human; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit (a spirit-"Being") - (a human+Being).
3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Contrary to religious traditions and superstitions, being born again as one's true, spiritual self is the recognition that we are all spiritual-Beings/Souls/Jinns that are TEMPORARILY incarnating the human body we see in the mirror.

It is only through SPIRITUAL eyes and ears that we can see and hear the Wisdom that comes from the Sole/Soul Source of Wisdom: our Creator. ALL attempts by humans to try to understand God and His Word/Message will be in vain, because human eyes and ears see and hear everything upside down and backwards, i.e. the exact opposite of Reality (Sura 31:30).

IF one genuinely understands the REAL reason for human life on this planet, and why we (the spiritual-Beings/Souls) were sent here, and what we should be doing, God's Plan and our own purpose become clear: only through Faith (Trust in God), which engenders obedience and self-discipline, can one TRULY get to know The One True God and what His Will is for each of us.

On the subject of Wisdom:

Psalm 111:10 The fear of the "I AM" [is] the beginning of Wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do [His Commandments]: His praise endureth for ever.

Proverbs 15:33 The fear of the "I AM" [is] the instruction of Wisdom; and before honour [comes] HUMILITY.

Humility can NEVER come from questioning God's Perfect Plan, i.e. arrogantly believing one knows better than God.

Sura 3:54-55
3:54. And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and God too planned, and the best of planners is God.
3:55. Behold! God said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee SUPERIOR to those who reject faith, to The Day of Resurrection: then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.

God promised to send His Firstborn/Eldest SPIRITUAL Son (Prince Michael/Christ - Dan. 12:1; Sura 2:98) again, right before the Last Day (Mal. 4; Sura 43:61) to judge between the matters wherein people dispute (John 5:22), by explaining "the mystery of God", as God has declared to His servants the Prophets, in writing, in a "little book"/"white stone" (Rev. 10:6-10; Rev. 2:17). The name of that "little book"/"white stone" is:

The Way home or face The Fire by JAH

The title is self-explanatory.
 

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Further on the subject of Wisdom, each of us, except for Prince Michael/Christ, is endowed with Wisdom via the Holy Spirit, based upon our obedience to God.

Acts 5:29-33
5:29 Then Peter and the [other] Apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
5:30 The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree.
5:31 Him hath God exalted with His right hand [to be] a Prince (the Great Prince Michael - Dan. 12:1) and a Saviour (the title "Jesus" means "Saviour"), for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
5:32 And we are His witnesses of these things; and [so is] also the Holy Spirit, whom God hath given to them that obey Him.
5:33 When they heard [that], they were cut [to the heart], and took counsel to slay them.

John 3:31-35
3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the Earth is earthly, and speaketh of the Earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no MAN (human) receiveth his testimony.
3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is True.
3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the Truth of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure [unto him].
3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given ALL things into his hand (Matt. 28:18).

And by giving the Son "ALL things" it should be self-evident that God Himself has taught Christ everything.

John 5:19-20
5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever He doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.
5:20 For the Father loveth the Son, and showeth him all things that Himself doeth: and He will show him greater works than these, that ye may marvel.

Which is why Jesus was referred to as "the unlettered Prophet" (no B.S., M.S. or PhD, etc., i.e. worldly letters of academia or religious teachings) in both the Gospel of Jesus as recorded by John, and in the Koran/Quran.

John 7:15-17

7:15 And the Jews marvelled, saying, How knoweth this man "Letters", having never been taught?
7:16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but His that sent me.
7:17 If any man will do His will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or [whether] I speak of myself.

Sura 7:157-158
7:157. Those who follow The Messenger, the unlettered Prophet (John 7:15), whom they find mentioned in their own (Scriptures - the Bible),- in The Law (The Torah) and The Gospel (New Testament - Covenant);- for he commands them what is just and forbids them what is evil; he allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them from what is bad (and impure); he releases them from their heavy burdens (Matthew 23:1-4) and from the yokes (Matt.11:28-30) that are upon them. So it is those who believe him, honour him, help him, and follow the Light which is sent down with him,- it is they who will prosper (John 8:3)."
7:158. Say: "O men! I am sent unto you all, as the Messenger of "I AM", to Whom belongeth the Dominion of the heavens and the Earth: there is no god but He: it is He That giveth both life and death. So believe in "I AM" and His Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet (John 7:15-19), who believeth "I AM" and His words: follow him that (so) ye may be guided (by "The Way" - John 14:6)."

It cannot be made any clearer that God sent Christ, The Messenger of God, in the body of Jesus (John 1:14) to teach God's Doctrine and God's Law, found ONLY in the first five books of the Old Covenant/Testament (namely: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy).

Matthew 5:17-20
5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill [to fully preach The Law (The Torah) and fulfill the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah].
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till all be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in The Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in The Kingdom of heaven.
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians, ye shall in no case enter into The Kingdom of heaven.

And it likewise cannot be clearer that the Koran/Quran was sent to CONFIRM both the Old Covenant/Testament and the New Covenant/Testament, NOT to contradict them.

Sura 61:1-10
61:1. Whatever is in the heavens and on Earth, let it declare the Praises and Glory of "I AM": for He is the Almighty, the Wise.
61:2. O ye who believe! Why SAY ye that which ye DO not (Matt. 5:37; James 5:12)?
61:3. Grievously ODIOUS it is in the sight of "I AM" that ye SAY but that ye DO NOT DO [what He has told you to do in His Scriptures and privately in your mind].
61:4. Truly "I AM" loves those who fight in His Cause in battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure.
61:5. And remember, Moses said to his people: "O my people! Why do ye vex and insult me, though ye know that I am the Apostle of "I AM" (sent) to you?" Then when they went wrong, "I AM" let their hearts go wrong. For "I AM" guides not those who are rebellious transgressors.
61:6. And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the Apostle of "I AM" (sent) to you, CONFIRMING The Law (which came) before me (the Torah), and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be the Comforter (John 16:7-15)." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!"
61:7. Who doth greater wrong than one who invents falsehood against "I AM", even as he is being invited to do His Will (Matt. 22:1-14)? And "I AM" guides not those who do wrong (Satan does).
61:8. Their intention is to extinguish "I AM"'s Light (by blowing) with their mouths: but "I AM" will complete (the Revelation of) His Light (Malachi 4:2), even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).
61:9. It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion OF TRUTH, that he may proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it).

See also: Sura 2:53, 2:87-93,2:97-98, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:47, 4:54, 5:46-51, 6:91-94, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 10:37, 11:17, 12:111, 15:9-10, 17:2-4, 21:48, 22:52, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 78:2
 

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The above bears repeating:

Sura 61:7-8
61:7. WHOE DOTH GREATER WRONG THAN ONE WHO INVENTS FALSEHOOD AGAINST "I AM", even as he is being invited to do His Will (Matt. 22:1-14)? And "I AM" guides not those who do wrong (Satan does).
61:8. THEIR INTENTION IS TO EXTINGUISH "I AM"'s LIGHT (by blowing) WITH THEIR MOUTHS: but "I AM" will complete (the Revelation of) His Light (Malachi 4:2), even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).

Our UNCHANGING God (the "I AM") is ALL-Powerful (Omnipotent), ALL-Knowing (Omniscient) and EVER-Present (Omnipresent - present everywhere always). He is NOT a human, nor the son of a human, nor has God ever taken human form (Num. 23:19); God is a SPIRITUAL-BEING and so are all of His "Sons"/Children (that He CREATED, NOT procreated), whom worship Him (worship Truth and Justice, Freedom and Peace, and the Safety and Security that only God can provide).

Anyone who is claiming, based upon their own ERRANT opinions and superstitious beliefs that God is unfair, or unjust, or not all-knowing, etc. is so far into Satan's grip that they will NEVER come to know the One True God, Who is LOVE.

Over two-thirds of the Old Covenant/Testament and New Covenant/Testament (commonly referred to as the Bible) are PROPHECY, >99% of which has been fulfilled in exact and minute detail. Only a complete fool would look at that track record, and doubt that the God spoken about throughout the Old Covenant/Testament, New Covenant/Testament and confirmed in the Koran/Quran is THE SAME, CHANGELESS, ALL-POWERFUL, ALL-KNOWING, PERFECT AND HOLY GOD THAT GAVE US HIS WORD/MESSAGE. And similarly, only a complete fool would believe that our ALL-Powerful God is somehow powerless against puny humans or that He would prevent His Word from being clearly understood by those who fear Him and seek His Wisdom with a contrite heart and mind, or that the remaining prophecies won't likewise be fulfilled in exact and minute detail.

God is NOT the author of confusion (1 Cor. 14:33); Satan is.

The humble and therefore correct place to search for error is in one's own faulty understanding of God, NOT in God Himself. And, if one actually believes God and that He sent the Koran/Quran, then they MUST also believe that God sent His Law to protect all of us from evil and confusion.

Sura 15:9-11
15:9. We have, WITHOUT DOUBT, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
15:10. We did send Apostles BEFORE THEE amongst the religious sects (John 17:21; Sura 6:159) of old:
15:11. But never came an Apostle to them but they mocked him.

Sura 32:23. We did INDEED aforetime give The Book (The Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.
 

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Genesis 3:1-19
3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the "I AM" God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
3:2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it (the tree of the knowledge of evil - the devil), lest ye die.
3:4 And the serpent (devil - liar) said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree [was] good for food, and that it [was] pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make [one] wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.
3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they [were] naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
3:8 And they heard the voice of the "I AM" God [the tree of the Knowledge of Good-God] walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the Presence of the "I AM" God amongst the trees of the garden.
3:9 And the "I AM" God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where [art] thou?
3:10 And he said, I heard Thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I [was] naked; and I hid myself.
3:11 And He said, Who told thee that thou [wast] naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I COMMANDED thee that thou shouldest NOT eat?
3:12 And the man said, The woman whom Thou gavest [to be] with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.
3:13 And the "I AM" God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.
3:14 And the "I AM" God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
3:16 Unto the woman He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire [shall be subject] to thy husband, and HE SHALL RULE OVER THEE.
3:17 And unto Adam He said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I COMMANDED thee, saying, Thou shalt NOT eat of it: cursed [is] the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat [of] it all the days of thy life (Eno. 96:12-13);
3:18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou [art], and unto dust shalt thou return.

It should be blatantly obvious that the series of questions above that God asks of Adam and Eve are RHETORICAL.

When God asked Adam "Where art thou?", "Who told thee that thou [wast] naked?" and "Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I COMMANDED thee that thou shouldest NOT eat?", it wasn't as if God didn't already know the crimes/sins that both Adam and Eve had committed and why they were now attempting in vain to hide from God. God asked Adam these questions to see how Adam would answer them, to teach Adam, Eve and the rest of mankind to be honest, admit their mistakes and accept their punishment, thereby learning from those mistakes so they are not repeated.

But when someone tries to humanize God, as Lucifer/Satan/Iblis tempts people to do, then they can easily be duped by Satan into believing that God didn't know exactly where Adam and Eve were, or what they had already done or even what they were thinking at that exact moment.

The same goes for ALL human misunderstandings about God. ALL of those misunderstandings are born out of ignorance, which begins when one arrogantly assumes they know more or better than God (i.e. still listening to the serpent/Satan).
 
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