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Not just the UNRWA report: Countless accounts of Israeli torture in Gaza
Al Jazeera spoke to several released detainees about their ordeals in Israeli holding facilities.
Palestinian Resistance Launch Major Attack on Israel: What Happened? – LIVE BLOG
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South Africa's foreign minister says citizens fighting with Israeli forces in Gaza will be arrested
South Africa’s foreign minister says her country’s citizens who fight in the Israeli armed forces or alongside them in Gaza will be arrested when they return home
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The research group Forensic Architecture has released a new report in which it details how Israel's military has "weaponised humanitarian measures" such as "evacuation orders" and "safe zones" in Gaza in order to facilitate the mass displacement of Palestinians.
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Time to start stocking up on water, canned foods, and batteries
Who wants to bomb Iran?
A range of British political and media figures, some associated with the Israel lobby, are now openly calling for confrontation with Iran.
www.declassifieduk.org
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Here’s what Pramila Patten’s UN report on Oct 7 sexual violence actually said
The UN report on sexual violence on October 7 has found no evidence of systematic r*pe by Hamas or any other Palestinian group, despite widespread media reporting to the contrary. But there are deeper problems with the report’s credibility.
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"You do know that the rave that was taking place was not supposed to be there on Oct 7. It was supposed to finish the day before but miraculously got permission to keep going for an extra day."
Its clear you understand neither warfare, nor Islam. My posts are regarding Islamic requirements for engaging in combat with enemy fighters. You continue to make secular excuses for why they dont have to follow the rules of standard, modern military engagement as well as Islamic codes of ethics as they concern to warfare.
"Interesting since all of Palestine was stolen at gun point. So according to "your understanding" that would mean that at least all male adults would be legitimate targets. That kinda kills off your whole defence."
My defense? Im not defending Hamas or the IDF/Mossad, I indict them all. I recognize the suffering of the Palestinians and the unjust theft of their land, but I also recognized off the rip that this was an illegal military campaign borne out of desperation and hubris, not a legitimate act of military offensive or guerrilla warfare. And its pretty much going as I predicted, not because Im any prophet but this was an easy call for anyone who looks into the ethics involved with warfare under an Islamic banner. The consequences for "doing it our way because we know better than the Creator" can be very severe, but when lives are taken under such a call to arms? When non-combatants are killed under this call to arms? You tell me what you think the outcome will look like.
As far as all of Palestine stolen at gun point, you just have no idea what you are posting. You have no clue and clearly havent bothered to do even cursory research on an issue you claim to be so heavily invested in. The reason Jewish people were in the Middle East in increasing numbers (particularly in whats now recognized as Palestine/Israel) is because Muslim leaders worked DIRECTLY with Western and Jewish efforts to re-populate Jewish people to the area. Thats why they were there again in growing numbers pre-WW1/2. It wasnt even a secret, yet somehow now neither "side" appears willing aknowledge/admit this. And you somehow are also ignorant of such basic history.
As for your quote, I didnt see any link or citation so Im not sure what you want people to do with a random quote you post with no context or sourcing.
And as for your Hamas non-answer its like the rest of our interactions... you ask a lot of questions and even though you recieve detailed answers, you cant handle those answers/cant defend your stated stances/cant answer questions in return. So you pivot to new questions or old ones rephrased and other destractions/deflections.
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'Do you want to be culpable?': UK campaign launched to stop paying tax over Gaza
New movement points to legal obligations under domestic and international law to prevent commission of genocide
www.middleeasteye.net
No Tax for Genocide
It is a criminal offence in this country to pay tax if any of it is used to fund genocide, murder or any criminal activity as per the 1945 UN Charter, Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court, Terrorism Act 2000 and The Nuremberg Code.
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Gaza: IRC and MAP additional statement on airstrike on residential compound housing Emergency Medical Team
Medical Aid for Palestinians (MAP) and the International Rescue Committee (IRC) have previously shared details of the near-fatal airstrike on 18 January 2024 by the Israeli military on a residential compound housing our Emergency Medical Team (EMT) and members of MAP’s local team and their...
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Nailed it.
Unfortunately @Stucky is now so heavily invested in the narrative, there’s no going back. Doubling down (for some reason) is the only way forward.
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Hidden history lessons.
When Muslims Conquer Jerusalem, Again
When Muslims Conquer Jerusalem, Again
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Gaza genocide ignored when EU approved new deals for Israel
Traffic in Tel Aviv matters more than Palestinian rights.
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‘Death trap’: Israeli forces kill six in new attack on Gaza aid seekers
The deadly incident comes after an Israeli air strike on an UNRWA-run aid centre kills at least five people in Rafah.
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This article says that Georgieva was just being sympathetic to Egypt in extending the IMF loan...it didn't say anything about "voluntary migration"Gaza genocide ignored when EU approved new deals for Israel
Traffic in Tel Aviv matters more than Palestinian rights.electronicintifada.net
The IMF and UAE Swoop In to Ease Egypt’s Economic Crisis
Cairo’s main lender and top Gulf donor have come to the rescue once again, offering major loans, investments, and Central Bank transfers that could halt the country’s latest slide despite short-term consumer pain.
Edit to include excerpts of the FT article in case it's behind a paywall for some
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Oh, it's been there from day one!Time to start stocking up on water, canned foods, and batteries
Who wants to bomb Iran?
A range of British political and media figures, some associated with the Israel lobby, are now openly calling for confrontation with Iran.
Palestinian Resistance Launch Major Attack on Israel: What Happened? – LIVE BLOG
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I didn't want to share this until Iran was destabilized but oh well...
"The Original ending of Syriana was George Bush going into Congress and declaring war on Iran and i was going to use the actual footage from the Iraq war declaration....Okay 2003, this goes up the flag pole with the studio and the producers and everyone is like you're insane....Meanwhile my no.1 cohort and source for all this stuff is the ex-Iraq bureau chief....so all his pals are Iran hands. They all said to me, from the first moment of research on Syriana----Iraq is a sideshow." ~ Stephen Gaghan
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Is he a comedian? Honestly i just can't stop laughing at the phrase...."A red cow"....
Anyway, when the Establishment said that "aliens" are coming, i don't think many people ever considered that it was code word for "religious psyop". I maintain the belief that the eschaton will be immanentized in Jerusalem and it's terrifying that those heifers are actually of age....ready to be sacrificed. You can be damn sure though that whatever is created in Israel will be protected, in law, by the Establishment....you can see where this is going.
TPTB have intimated that all our belief systems are up for a reset....and i've been wondering what the psychological impact of destroying the Al Aqsa would be to Islam adherents. Does the mosque play a central role in your eschatology?
I read the Atlantic piece first but within the second article was this oneThank you for posting Weir's article I think it is a good history lesson and summation of the troubling relationship between the US and Israel.
Exaggeration aside the question of the downfall of America is a real one. In this webinar from a month ago Kevin Barrett noted the near $10 trillion spent chasing what was essentially a fraudulent Israeli/Neoconservative War on Terror. It's impossible to raise the standard of living of the public while burning trillions on illegal, frivolous military campaigns.
Zionist Threat to Americans
Barrett's newest article is exciting, partly a response to The Atlantic Franklin Foer piece THE GOLDEN AGE OF AMERICAN JEWS IS ENDING lol. Between he, Ron Unz, Kevin McDonald, Raphael Johnson, and many others it's helpful to find the intellectuals willing to speak truth on the deep psychopathy fueling the cruelty in Palestine:
https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/will-redemption-through-genocide-end-the-golden-age-of-american-jews/
This whole redemption-through-sin philosophy jibes with neoconservatism, which is based on Leo Strauss’s philosophical turning upside down the Western philosophical tradition, sort of in the same way that Sabbatai Zevi turned upside down the Jewish religious tradition. And for Strauss, just as for Shabtai Zvi, good is evil and evil is good. The more evil you are, the better.
Leo Strauss recast exactly that thought in philosophical terms by rewriting Plato’s dialogues such that when Plato argues for virtue, “the virtuous man is the happy man,” Strauss favors Socrates’ antagonist (Thrasymachus) who argues that the truly happy man is the man who appears to be virtuous on the outside but is utterly evil on the inside, and thereby gets the best of both worlds: He gets to enjoy the accolades of all of the people who think he’s good, plus he gets to enjoy torturing and murdering little children, or whatever else he’s doing.
So this is now dominant among the Jewish elite, one strand or the other, whether it’s the Sabbatean version for those people who like to go to orgies, or whether it’s the Straussian version—some of them probably do that too, but others are just philosophers who believe in evil. And if they get the chance to commit it with Jeffrey Epstein, they do.
This is the dominant mentality among the elite Jews who dominate America and are enabling this genocide.
So we’re faced with evil.
We are at war and we do need to identify the enemy.
Redemption through genocide
The ICJ ruled that Israel’s Gaza campaign poses a plausible and urgent threat of genocide. Future historians of Jewish messianism may recount how in 2024 “redemption through sin” became “redemption through genocide,” with unconditional U.S. support.
mondoweiss.net
It's clear that there massive changes up ahead and i think that through these lens ^^, especially, should we contemplate America's demise/transformation. MSM is starting to say that this is a religious war.....almost as if the veil is being dropped or we are being prepped for something. As crazy as it may sound, there are breadcrumbs in MSM that a theocracy will develop in Israel at the same time that one is created in America.
At any rate, different parties are all seemingly working towards a single goal.
Jerusalem Summit - Militarist Monitor
The Jerusalem Summit is an Israel-based advocacy outfit that has brought together Evangelical Christians, neoconservatives, and hardline pro-Israel figures from across the globe in an effort to shape the debate over the status of Palestine.
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"The Jerusalem Summit is an Israel-based advocacy outfit that has brought together Evangelical Christians, neoconservatives, and hardline pro-Israel figures from across the globe in an effort to shape the debate over the status of Palestine, radical Islam, and what its members view as the "relativism" of the West. “The ultimate goal of Jerusalem Summit,” according to a statement on the group’s website, “is to create an alliance of all individuals and organizations from different nations and faiths who realize the grave danger our democratic civilization faces from the new Totalitarianism, represented by radical Islam, and the moral relativism which erodes our resolve to fight and destroy these evil forces.” It adds, “We believe that the center of such an alliance has to be in Jerusalem. Not for nothing these forces of Evil chose Israel as the focus of their attack: here lies the front line of that new battle. If Jerusalem falls, so shall the entire free world.”
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Iam posting this tweet for context through which Ehud Olmert's piece should be read. He makes it seem as though Smotrich and ben-Gvir are all- powerful and Netanyahu is just helplessly spell-bound. Like as though the messianic duo doesn't have people above them that they answer to or that their words and actions aren't producing results that the highest echelons of power desire.
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The ultimate aim of this gang is “purging” the West Bank of its Palestinian inhabitants, cleansing the Temple Mount of its Muslim worshippers and annexing the territories to the state of Israel. This aim will not be achieved without extensive violent conflict. Armageddon
The supreme aim of the far-right duo National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich is not the occupation of the Gaza Strip.
Even settlement throughout the devastated Strip is not the final goal of the bunch of messianic hallucinators that has seized power in the state of Israel. Gaza is just the introductory chapter, the platform this gang wants to build as the foundation upon which the real fight they are eyeing will be conducted: the battle for the West Bank and the Temple Mount.
The ultimate aim of this gang is “purging” the West Bank of its Palestinian inhabitants, cleansing the Temple Mount of its Muslim worshippers and annexing the territories to the state of Israel. The way to achieve this goal is blood-soaked. Israeli blood, in the state and in the territories it has been controlling for 57 years now, as well as Jewish blood in places elsewhere in the world. As well as a lot of Palestinian blood, of course, in the territories, in Jerusalem and if there is no alternative – also among Arab citizens of Israel.
This aim will not be achieved without extensive violent conflict. Armageddon. All-out war. In the south, in Jerusalem, in the territories of the West Bank and to the extent necessary also on the northern border. Such a war will bolster the impression that we are fighting for our lives, for our very existence. In a war for survival, it is permissible to do insufferable things, and the hilltop youth are proving daily that among them are many who are capable of precisely that.
This gang of pogromists has been successful in the first stage prior to the uproar and all-out war that they apparently hope will erupt here. They have taken control of the government of Israel and have made the man who heads it into their servant. The possibility that they will dismantle the government and kick the prime minister out of running the matters of state is not outlandish. It is a process that is taking place at this very moment, step by step.
First, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich decided in effect to sacrifice the hostages. With the intention of preventing the possibility of an end to the successful military campaign that has thus far brought impressive successes to the Israel Defense Forces, even if at a high price. It is clear that we are far from “total victory.” Such a victory is not possible. Even if the military action continues for many more months, the price it is exacting is not worth the “vision” of a victory there is no real possibility of achieving.
Continuing the military action now will drag Israel into Rafah – and that is what they want. Such a move will palpably and immediately endanger the peace agreement between Israel and Egypt. There is no doubt that Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and also the Palestinian Authority and Saudi Arabia are all hoping for Hamas to crash and collapse. However, Egypt knows there is a considerable chance that continuation of Israeli military activity will stir the Muslim Brotherhood out of its dormancy.
Egypt has already seen how the Egyptian regime imposed harsh military discipline to block those fundamentalist extremist elements. It was not able to withstand demonstrations by hundreds of thousands at Tahrir Square in the heart of the capital, Cairo. Only tremendous effort, with tacit backing from the international community, enabled more moderate elements headed by President Abdel-Fattah al-Sissi to take back control in Egypt and lead it as a diplomatic and military entity that is helping to stabilize the Middle East.
Sissi and the military leadership will not take a risk that is liable to plunge Egypt into chaos from which it will be difficult to save itself. Continuation of the military campaign in Rafah, which is overcrowded with more than a million Palestinians, is exactly the fuse that will ignite the streets of Egypt’s cities, and after that also those in Jordan – another country whose relations with Israel are essential to our security.
Before events degenerate, we will be facing several Arab countries that will have lost the remnants of the trust they have in the ability to create a relationship based on cooperation with Israel. However, the United States of America – the ally that inspiringly leapt to help Israel in its moment of unprecedented crisis, when the government was in shock and its leader had lost his last shreds of good judgment and responsibility – will take measures that will shake up Israel’s ability to conduct the military and diplomatic battle and its economic stability.
Amid all this, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has decided to set the Temple Mount on fire. When the riots start around freedom of worship for the Muslim citizens of Israel and the Palestinians from the West Bank and Jerusalem – an extensive wave of terror will crest. This decision is deserving of special condemnation in light of the recent manifestations by Israeli Arab citizens of responsibility and solidarity with the distress their country is experiencing.
Instead of respecting the Arab community’s solidarity, Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir are antagonizing it and inciting against it. Every reasonable person can certainly see this inevitable dynamic. Ben-Gvir and Smotrich and with them the violent hilltop youth and many others in the territories, who are still maintaining a degree of restraint, also understand this.
There is no way to explain their conduct apart from the understanding that this is exactly what they want. This is what they are hoping for. And when the wave of terror erupts, the messianic hallucinators will explain to us that force is necessary to prevent terror. Thus, war will seethe throughout the West Bank.
And we haven’t said anything yet about the northern border. It is possible to try to reach understandings with Lebanon about a solution to the border issue, which could tame the flames that have already been lit there and have forced tens of thousands of Israelis to flee their homes.
Possibly sensible, restrained management without boastful declarations and endless threats will create an equation that will enable Hezbollah to depict the appearance of an achievement by a solution to the years-long conflict focused on a few points along the current border and justify withdrawal to the line north of Lebanon’s Litani River. This would enable Israel to restore the feeling of security to inhabitants of the Galilee and bring them home for another 17 years of quiet. As was accomplished by the Second Lebanon War.
But Ben-Gvir and Smotrich do not want quiet on the northern front. A war there too will only reinforce the claim that there is no choice but to destroy all our enemies, on all the fronts, in all the sectors – whatever the price of this conflict may be.
The prime minister understands the inevitable consequences arising from this total surrender to the gang of pogromists that controls his government. He sees, he understands, but he collaborates. Ultimately (and perhaps a priori), Netanyahu is prepared to relinquish the hostages and undermine the peace agreements with Egypt and Jordan, which are essential pillars in the state of Israel’s security infrastructure.
He is prepared to undermine relations with the United States to the point of a visible crisis with the president most committed ever to Israel’s security, Joe Biden. Netanyahu understands that the continued reckless process will lead to Israel’s isolation in the international community as it has never experienced before. Things are so dire that there is no way to avoid saying them loud and clear: Netanyahu, this will end in a lot more blood. Take heed – you have been warned.
Haaretz
Thu, 22 Feb 2024
The ultimate aim of this gang is “purging” the West Bank of its Palestinian inhabitants, cleansing the Temple Mount of its Muslim worshippers and annexing the territories to the state of Israel. This aim will not be achieved without extensive violent conflict. Armageddon
The supreme aim of the far-right duo National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir and Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich is not the occupation of the Gaza Strip.
Even settlement throughout the devastated Strip is not the final goal of the bunch of messianic hallucinators that has seized power in the state of Israel. Gaza is just the introductory chapter, the platform this gang wants to build as the foundation upon which the real fight they are eyeing will be conducted: the battle for the West Bank and the Temple Mount.
The ultimate aim of this gang is “purging” the West Bank of its Palestinian inhabitants, cleansing the Temple Mount of its Muslim worshippers and annexing the territories to the state of Israel. The way to achieve this goal is blood-soaked. Israeli blood, in the state and in the territories it has been controlling for 57 years now, as well as Jewish blood in places elsewhere in the world. As well as a lot of Palestinian blood, of course, in the territories, in Jerusalem and if there is no alternative – also among Arab citizens of Israel.
This aim will not be achieved without extensive violent conflict. Armageddon. All-out war. In the south, in Jerusalem, in the territories of the West Bank and to the extent necessary also on the northern border. Such a war will bolster the impression that we are fighting for our lives, for our very existence. In a war for survival, it is permissible to do insufferable things, and the hilltop youth are proving daily that among them are many who are capable of precisely that.
This gang of pogromists has been successful in the first stage prior to the uproar and all-out war that they apparently hope will erupt here. They have taken control of the government of Israel and have made the man who heads it into their servant. The possibility that they will dismantle the government and kick the prime minister out of running the matters of state is not outlandish. It is a process that is taking place at this very moment, step by step.
First, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich decided in effect to sacrifice the hostages. With the intention of preventing the possibility of an end to the successful military campaign that has thus far brought impressive successes to the Israel Defense Forces, even if at a high price. It is clear that we are far from “total victory.” Such a victory is not possible. Even if the military action continues for many more months, the price it is exacting is not worth the “vision” of a victory there is no real possibility of achieving.
Continuing the military action now will drag Israel into Rafah – and that is what they want. Such a move will palpably and immediately endanger the peace agreement between Israel and Egypt. There is no doubt that Egypt, Jordan, the United Arab Emirates and also the Palestinian Authority and Saudi Arabia are all hoping for Hamas to crash and collapse. However, Egypt knows there is a considerable chance that continuation of Israeli military activity will stir the Muslim Brotherhood out of its dormancy.
Egypt has already seen how the Egyptian regime imposed harsh military discipline to block those fundamentalist extremist elements. It was not able to withstand demonstrations by hundreds of thousands at Tahrir Square in the heart of the capital, Cairo. Only tremendous effort, with tacit backing from the international community, enabled more moderate elements headed by President Abdel-Fattah al-Sissi to take back control in Egypt and lead it as a diplomatic and military entity that is helping to stabilize the Middle East.
Sissi and the military leadership will not take a risk that is liable to plunge Egypt into chaos from which it will be difficult to save itself. Continuation of the military campaign in Rafah, which is overcrowded with more than a million Palestinians, is exactly the fuse that will ignite the streets of Egypt’s cities, and after that also those in Jordan – another country whose relations with Israel are essential to our security.
Before events degenerate, we will be facing several Arab countries that will have lost the remnants of the trust they have in the ability to create a relationship based on cooperation with Israel. However, the United States of America – the ally that inspiringly leapt to help Israel in its moment of unprecedented crisis, when the government was in shock and its leader had lost his last shreds of good judgment and responsibility – will take measures that will shake up Israel’s ability to conduct the military and diplomatic battle and its economic stability.
Amid all this, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has decided to set the Temple Mount on fire. When the riots start around freedom of worship for the Muslim citizens of Israel and the Palestinians from the West Bank and Jerusalem – an extensive wave of terror will crest. This decision is deserving of special condemnation in light of the recent manifestations by Israeli Arab citizens of responsibility and solidarity with the distress their country is experiencing.
Instead of respecting the Arab community’s solidarity, Netanyahu and Ben-Gvir are antagonizing it and inciting against it. Every reasonable person can certainly see this inevitable dynamic. Ben-Gvir and Smotrich and with them the violent hilltop youth and many others in the territories, who are still maintaining a degree of restraint, also understand this.
There is no way to explain their conduct apart from the understanding that this is exactly what they want. This is what they are hoping for. And when the wave of terror erupts, the messianic hallucinators will explain to us that force is necessary to prevent terror. Thus, war will seethe throughout the West Bank.
And we haven’t said anything yet about the northern border. It is possible to try to reach understandings with Lebanon about a solution to the border issue, which could tame the flames that have already been lit there and have forced tens of thousands of Israelis to flee their homes.
Possibly sensible, restrained management without boastful declarations and endless threats will create an equation that will enable Hezbollah to depict the appearance of an achievement by a solution to the years-long conflict focused on a few points along the current border and justify withdrawal to the line north of Lebanon’s Litani River. This would enable Israel to restore the feeling of security to inhabitants of the Galilee and bring them home for another 17 years of quiet. As was accomplished by the Second Lebanon War.
But Ben-Gvir and Smotrich do not want quiet on the northern front. A war there too will only reinforce the claim that there is no choice but to destroy all our enemies, on all the fronts, in all the sectors – whatever the price of this conflict may be.
The prime minister understands the inevitable consequences arising from this total surrender to the gang of pogromists that controls his government. He sees, he understands, but he collaborates. Ultimately (and perhaps a priori), Netanyahu is prepared to relinquish the hostages and undermine the peace agreements with Egypt and Jordan, which are essential pillars in the state of Israel’s security infrastructure.
He is prepared to undermine relations with the United States to the point of a visible crisis with the president most committed ever to Israel’s security, Joe Biden. Netanyahu understands that the continued reckless process will lead to Israel’s isolation in the international community as it has never experienced before. Things are so dire that there is no way to avoid saying them loud and clear: Netanyahu, this will end in a lot more blood. Take heed – you have been warned.
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Al Aqsa is the 3rd holiest site in Islam. Even with the ongoing genocide in Palestine, some 40,000 Muslims are still showing up to pray there in Ramadan every night. The IOF can't stop it, there are too many Muslims.
I know the Kabah in Mecca will be destroyed towards the very end of this system. I am not aware of any prophecies surrounding Al Aqsa. The entire global situation will likely continue to get worse until the Mahdi comes. While he's predicted to come in Ramadan, I don't think it will be this year. God knows best.
While I think the Jews already got their messiah, and now they wait on the antichrist. The dajjal isn't necessarily tied to the 3rd temple. They don't actually need to build it for the antichrist to appear, according to Islamic texts. According to what you read, he is already here.
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We write to you as technology experts, engineers, international lawyers, human rights advocates, academics and individuals of conscience, and as members and friends of the UK Campaign to Stop Killer Robots, regarding the devastating attacks on Palestine.
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Open letter to UK Government on the devastating attacks on Palestine - UK Stop Killer Robots
To: Rt Hon Rishi Sunak MP, UK Prime Minister; Lord David Cameron, Foreign Secretary United Kingdom Government, Foreign and Commonwealth Office; Mr Grant Shapps, Secretary of State for Defence, United Kingdom; Mr Andrew […]
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