You prove my point. Daze did not claim that he supported the killing of civilians. And since you acknowledge that military targets were legit it would follow you support that part of the Oct 7 attacks?.
What about civilians that are living on stolen land. Are they exempt as military targets? I ask because i came across this,
In your opinion Is the above quote true to Islamic rules of war?
The VC article was poor and it never exposed anything in any detail.....Period
EDIT: Can you show me where the Hamas leadership were being defended?
Right after you posted your comments to me, Daze posted his unequivocal support for the Oct. 7 campaign. Do you see how deficient/dyslexic your defense is here?
"We know this campaign violates Islamic rules of engagement. We know its illegitimate by Muslims own standards. We know they have incurred many violations of these warfare ethics resulting in war crimes, under both UN and Islamic mandates. But we support this... wait, we sort of support it.... I mean, we fully support it unless the faultiness/legitimacy/war crimes are called out... then we still support it, but not the war crimes."
This is what it looks like when we can observe peoples morals and honesty become compromised in real-time.
"And since you acknowledge that military targets were legit it would follow you support that part of the Oct 7 attacks?."
No I dont support part of it. It was incumbent on Hamas to iron out the non-combatant, environmental and other issues before they launched their attack... you dont get to break some of the most serious laws in Islam and then claim to be legit because you did some of what is required. And I accept that nobody, including the most professional military units of the world, bat 1000%... but Hamas erased their own legitimacy when they stepped over the boundaries of what is permissible in warfare, and the Palestinians in general with their support of it... so if the Creator has stated these kinds of actions wont be accepted, what grounds would I have to stand on in refutation of those mandates?
"What about civilians that are living on stolen land. Are they exempt as military targets?"
It depends, if they are raising arms to steal the land or if they occupy as a direct result of Israeli military action then the adults would be legitimate targets according to my understanding, at least the male adults. As for if they just wandered into homes abandoned from the cleansing and were willing to leave without a violent struggle and return the property top its rightful owners, Im not sure but I doubt they could be considered legitimate targets or combatants. But I dont know an exact answer for that question.
"The VC article was poor and it never exposed anything in any detail.....Period"
So prior to reading that article, you knew the actual Hamas shot-callers are billionaires who live outside of Palestine, some of them not even living within the Middle East region itself?
As for your quote... where did you find that justification for attacking unarmed civilians? Because it sounds like its a mirror copy of the IDF/Mossad playbook that everyone is outraged about. Just as the Jews are taking on the traits of their former oppressors (Nazis), Muslims are now apparently taking on the traits of their oppressors (Israel) in order to justify their race to the bottom of the morality barrel.
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