To be fair, “Gog and Magog” look very different depending on whether you believe in an actual millennium* or not…
*I would actually add amillennialism and premillennialism to the presuppositional foundations mentioned above.
Gog and Magog appear in
Ezekiel 38—39 and in
Revelation 20:7–8. While these two passages use the same names, a close study of Scripture clearly demonstrates they do not refer to the same people and events. The events are separated by at least 1,000 years. In Ezekiel’s prophecy, Gog will be the leader of a great army that attacks the land of Israel, which is “peaceful and unsuspecting” at the time (
Ezekiel 38:11). Gog is described as “of the land of Magog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal” (
Ezekiel 38:2–3). When will Ezekiel’s battle of Gog and Magog occur? There are a couple of theories:
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Before the tribulation begins. This view points to the fact that, after the battle, the people of Israel will be burning the enemy’s weapons for seven years and spend over seven months burying the dead (
Ezekiel 39:9–10,
12–16). That length of time most likely requires the battle to be fought before the tribulation, and possibly even before the rapture of the church.
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During the first part of the seven-year tribulation.This view hinges on the fact that Israel is at peace when the attack begins (
Ezekiel 38:8,
11). The security Israel enjoys is assumed to be the result of Israel’s covenant with the Antichrist at the beginning of the tribulation, Daniel’s 70th Week (
Daniel 9:27a).
According to Ezekiel, Magog will not win. God will intervene to preserve Israel. “There shall be a great earthquake” (
Ezekiel 38:19), “every man’s sword will be against his brother” (verse 21), and God “will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on [Gog] and on his troops and on the many nations with him” (verse 22). The result is that the nations will see God’s greatness and holiness (verse 23).
Gog and Magog are mentioned again in
Revelation 20:7-8. The duplicated use of the names Gog and Magog in
Revelation 20:8-9 is to show that these people demonstrate the same rebellion against God and antagonism toward God as those in
Ezekiel 38-39. It is similar to someone today calling a person "the devil" because he or she is sinful and evil. We know that person is not really Satan, but because that person shares similar characteristics, he or she might be referred to as "the devil."
The book of Revelation uses Ezekiel’s prophecy about Magog to portray a final end-times attack on the nation of Israel (
Revelation 20:8-9). The result of this battle is that all are destroyed, and Satan will find his final place in the lake of fire (
Revelation 20:10).
It is important to recognize that the Gog and Magog of
Ezekiel 38-39 is quite different from the one in
Revelation 20:7-8.
Below are some of the more obvious reasons why these refer to different people and battles.
1. In the battle of
Ezekiel 38-39, the armies come primarily from the north and involve only a few nations of the earth (
Ezekiel 38:6,
15;
39:2). The battle in
Revelation 20:7-9 will involve all nations, so armies will come from all directions, not just from the north.
2. There is no mention of Satan in the context of
Ezekiel 38-39. In
Revelation 20:7 the context clearly places the battle at the end of the millennium with Satan as the primary character.
3.
Ezekiel 39:11–12 states that the dead will be buried for seven months. There would be no need to bury the dead if the battle in
Ezekiel 38—39 is the one described in
Revelation 20:8–9, for immediately following
Revelation 20:8–9 is the Great White Throne judgment (20:11–15) and then the present heaven and earth are destroyed, replaced by a new heaven and earth (
Revelation 21:1). There obviously will be a need to bury the dead if the battle takes place before or in the early part of the tribulation, for the land of Israel will be occupied for another 1,000 years, the length of the millennial kingdom (
Revelation 20:4–6).
4. The battle in
Ezekiel 38-39 is used by God to bring Israel back to Him (
Ezekiel 39:21-29). In
Revelation 20, Israel has been faithful to God for 1,000 years (the millennial kingdom). Those in
Revelation 20:7-10 who are rebellious are destroyed without any more opportunity for repentance.
What are Gog and Magog? When will Gog and Magog attempt to destroy Israel? What modern nations represent Gog and Magog?
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i think the difference between the two has to do with the dominant mythos of the time of their revelation...
the old testament jews believed in the grave and death...that was a powerful symbol for them.
whereas the new testament was about life and the resurrection.
the core prophecy/event is one and the same..and it is certainly coming long after
-the euphrates war..even the apollyon prophecy of Rev 9
-the fall of mystery babylon
-the fall of the beast system
Gog and Magog is a prophecy coming after these MAJOR global events.
yet you also know that in Rev 11, the city of jerusalem is called 'like SODOM AND EGYPT' and you're fully aware of the absolute fact that the Whore of Babylon, is the jewish nation.
how can it be the roman church? the roman church is rome is the beast, the whore 'sits on the beast'...eg the whore controls the global system for a while.
who is the adulterness in jeremiah 2 and 3? the prostitute, the whore etc?
why does Zechariah 5 call 'her' a 'wicked woman who is taken to the land of shinar on a basket' (shinar/babylon)?
jeremiah and zechariah were very much in tune with the babylonian exile and destruction of jerusalem story...they lived at that time...
yet you like to wipe your own arse with the holy scripture whenever it doesnt suit you. you'll pretend the whore is something else.
Matthew 23
“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you,
Rev 18
In her was found the blood of prophets and of God’s holy people,
this is the judeo-christian alliance isnt it?
the xtians of ROME/the west...colonialists etc..and the synagogue of satan who was turfed out of the holy land and now only exists in what is now 'sodom and egypt'
the masonic gay parade city
Jerusalem has so many secrets and mystery, I would like to uncover a great secret about the Freemasons and the connection to the Tzidkiyahu Cave in Jerusalem
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The entire structure of Freemasonry is based on the symbolism of the construction of the ancient temple of Jerusalem, and the destruction of Jerusalem in the bible by the Romans in 70 AD.
the knights templar began in jerusalem.......
since they worship Baphomet.....they are in essence reversing the polarity of the masculine and feminine...
and hence gay parade is a religious masonic event too.
how the fuck do you not know this stuff? oh yeh, because you're not a muslim, therefore you are misguided by only half the story.
@Infinityloop
read Surah 18
focus on the direction of the duality throughout. this is all connected to the yin and yang and tao philosophy btw esp the story of Moses and Khidr. Jesus, who is like Khidr, represents that higher wisdom of the Tao, hence 'the tao of Jesus' is something you may be familiar with.
now open up Isaiah 45 and read the dhul qarnain (2 horned ram of daniel 8, Cyrus) chapter. he's a messianic archetype..but notice the reversal of polarity?
Dhul qarnain in surah 18 goes West upto the black sea, then he goes east.
in
Isaiah 45
so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
since this messianic archetype links to persia, 6-7th century jewish messianicism influenced Persia to fight the Byzantines. It came with all the propaganda you can imagine for that time, inc the forged Bahmast yast 'zoroastrian prophecies'.
in the end, there was no jewish messiah. the figure they were expecting, connected with a messianic take on Isaiah 42 (the wilderness/settlements of kedar etc) turned out Arab. that is why in the hadith, the jews 'recognised him' as if he was 'one of their own', but couldnt accept him because he's arab. He was the fruit from their own seed...as part of the leviticus 26 punishment.
it led to the entire islamic era and rule of the temple mount.
all we're seeing now is an attempt to reverse the polarity..and it extends directly into the metaphysical game of reversing yin and yang...hence they're also behind the global trans agenda and homosexuality which stems from that metaphysical flaw.
the actual family who own israel, wear the baphomet symbol openly
that reverse polarity is why it's now ROME going after Persia and the muslim world. get it?
it only leads to dajjal though.
when we are judged...we can't just say 'oh we didnt know, they tricked us, we thought they were good'
does the above look good? does this family own israel? 100%.
ashkenazi jews...the camp who was kicked out of the holy land, mixed with khazar blood and is now lactose fucking intolerant...and directly doing a 180 on the messianic ideals outlined in texts like ezekiel 38..
who could be so dumb to not understand what this is?
it's always the muslims educating these clowns on their religion and their scripture. they are lost. fuck whatever spirit they have in them, it isnt the holy spirit. it isnt even satan. im certain satan does a face balm knowing they've got no intellectual guile whatsoever.
i swear these xtians are posessed by this guy
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