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illegalbeagle

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Prove it you filthy bastard

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Look at your unholy book first.

An abnormal relationship between Jonathan and David



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Ham deviates with his father Noah



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An abnormal relationship between Naomi and her daughter-in-law Ruth

Jesus commands homosexuality in children

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Jesus confirms same-sex marriage

The kingdom is for homosexuals only

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Abraham orders his servant to hold his penis




The Bible does not condemn homosexuality



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Jesus runs through the streets completely naked



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The spread of homosexuality with the destruction of Sodom



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Paul is a homosexual




How many times have ignorant and uneducated poeple have asked this question over the past 50 or 60 years.

Have you noticed that no church has ever questioned this? Why is that?

Look at your own history and laws, you maybe surprised to find that marrying from such a young age was common practice up ujntil the 1970,s and 80’s.

Just look at ELvis and Priscilla, how old was she when they started dating? has anyone questioned this?

Look at Princess Matilda, how old was she when she married the German Prince?

Look at US marriage laws, some states still allow kids to get married, Look at Indian laws there is no age restricitons.



In fact, what really seemed strange is that child marriage was a very common practice in the medieval era. For instance, Richard the second’s wife, Isabella Valois was 5/6 when she married Richard aged 29.


More shockingly, not long ago, the Bengali reformist writer Rabindranath Tagore married his wife when she was 9 and he 22.[
And that was not even 200 years ago done by a social reformist. In fact, if you read his books then you’d see those books say girls were married off around aged 10 to men a lot older than them. Also, worth mentioning that the canon law, not long ago, permitted the marriage of girls aged seven




If Prophet Mohammed wanted he could have married all the beautiful and virgn young women. But he married those widows whose husband's died in the war. He helped those women and orphan with shelter and food.




5- Why is it wrong to say that prophet Muhammad was a p***phile? | #Islamophobia 1 | Fadel Soliman

This, coming from a culture that preys on children.

Bacha Bazi anyone?

Remember, I aint following no religion.

My saviour didn't fiddle the children.

I dont actually read what you painstakingly write, I skim it then just go back to the main points that never gets answered.

Why do you follow a culture of pagan paedos?

I follow Jesus alone, thats all.

So calling out OT doesnt really matter to me, because again I FOLLOW JESUS.

I'm not of any religion, sect, cult.

I'm aware that all those practices diddle the children, because they are all an abonmination to HIM.

So, until we address my issue, me and you have no more to talk about.
 

akay

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Are you mentally retarded?

You are a Christian, you liar. You worship Christ as God,

Although Christ worships God (the Father) alone.

3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.
John 17:3


And there are statues of Jesus and Mary that you worship in the church, you pagan.


There are pictures and statues in the church violating the second commandment


You are a pagan

Christian theology, and idolatrous. You're the worst type of pagan idolater because you're trying to kill God for your sins.



Then there is a fact that many of those affiliated with Christ, peace be upon him, overlook, which is that the Christian beliefs inspired by the New Testament meet radically with the old pagan beliefs.

The Trinity, the Incarnation, eternal sin, atonement with salvation, crucifixion, and redemption, the Nicene Creed, the Lord’s Supper (Holy Supper) and baptisms, and ecclesiastical sacraments...

Christians agree with the pagan nations in the history of celebrating the birth of Christ, peace be upon him.

Dani Vera said: “The worship of the cross is of pagan origin, as they used the cross in magic before Christianity, and these ideas impressed the pagan emperors to support the worshipers of the Trinity.”




Muslims don't worship cows, Bhuddha or Jesus. Muslims worship God who created everything. Allah forbids us from worshiping anything else (e.g. statues, the sun, moon, Jinn , Angels ,saints, priests or even Prophets). He does not need any partners or intermediaries. Everyone can always worship God .directly.


Muslims do not worship the Kaaba or the Black Stone, as they are a religious ritual since the time of the Prophet Abraham, peace be upon him

Muslims worship God (the Father) alone, just as the Prophet Christ worshiped the Father alone

Islam does not recognize idol worship.








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Christ follows the Old Testament, and you do not follow it because you are against Christ.

You only follow Paul, who corrupted the original doctrine of Christ.


The problem with Christians is following Paul and not the teachings of Christ.

Your book is originally based on the Old Testament

For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

Matthew 5:18


You must learn before speaking. It seems that you are uneducated


45 “But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. 46 If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47 But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”
John 5:45-47
 

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The God of the Old Testament is the same God as the New Testament because you say that Jesus has existed forever

Jesus commands p***philia

14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.

We all know that what is meant by enjoying women is adultery.... So what is enjoying children?



little Christian women married and had intercourse very early for centuries, intercourse that would be punishable by law today. In France, it was not until the Revolution and the break with Christianity that the age limit rose to 13 years.

Now if we follow the reasoning of some Islamophobic Christian missionaries, we should consider that all Christians were pedophiles, and that Jesus and Paul were accomplices in p***philia since they did not condemn these practices that existed in their day.


Mary married Joseph when she was twelve years old, meaning that she was young, and Joseph her husband was over ninety!!
Most Christian historians agree that Mary the mother of Jesus was between 12 to 14 years old when she married Joseph.
This was very common during that historical time period.

- Roman women married and had sex at the age of 12 and under, before having their period, with husbands who could be their grandfathers.

- Since no New Testament writings condemn this practice, not even Paul who gave recommendations on marriage and married life, Christians have continued to follow these customs.

- The Council of Trent convened by Pope Paul III in 1542 confirms the age of marriage at 12 for girls

See here
اجابة تسحق الفم


Christians question Mohammed’s marriage to Aisha but shamefully accept Joseph’s marriage to Mary?

Mary was 12 and Joseph was 90? | SPEAKER’s CORNER 11/11/2018



Was the Age of Aisha r.a 9 Years old or 19 when she got married? - Dr Zakir Naik







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There are people in the world who care about Islam and embrace Islam after studying it and discovering the truth of the message of Islam, the final message for humanity.
Over the centuries, many Western scholars and writers have explored the life and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ from various angles. Their depictions and interpretations

Early Christian Perspective Towards Prophet ﷺ

During the early years of Islam, Christian perceptions towards Prophet Muhammad ﷺ were largely negative. This was because Islam was seen as a rival religion to Christianity and its teachings were perceived as a challenge to Christian doctrine. Islam and Christianity were in fight from the earliest time of its expansion to outside of the Arabian Peninsula. So, they are compelled to study about the Islam and its Prophet ﷺ, at least for the defamation and abuse.

As a result, distorted historical stories about the Holy Prophet ﷺ were spread in the Western world mainly by church leaders. They were unwilling to study the Holy Prophet ﷺ objectively or to refer to such authentic texts. Church men were trying to hide the individual effect of the Holy Prophet ﷺ to the best of their ability. Often, they imposed ideas against the basic tenets of Islam on the Holy Prophet ﷺ.





The Qur’an is the word of God, which He promised to protect from distortion

God mentioned the errors of the Bible
to the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, whether scientific, historical or moral errors

God revealed the Qur'an to the Prophet Muhammad to correct the previous books

God forbids usury, adultery, alcohol, gambling, pork, incest,

However, we find in the Bible that these calamities are not prohibited in some parts of it

And Christians do it openly and attribute it to Christ and they are not ashamed



Christians are deceived by the devil


Because their book contains these taboos

But the Qur'an forbids that

The Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, who ordered the abandonment of usury, adultery, alcohol, gambling, pork, and incest.

Was he manipulated by Satan and dishonest or your book?

It is clear that you and your book are dishonest and have no integrity
 

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Any so-called Muslim who is still regurgitating the LIE that the Old Covenant/Testament (where God's Law is found) and the New Covenant/Testament (where the Gospel of Jesus is found) have allegedly been corrupted very obviously doesn't believe the Koran/Quran and is, as the Koran/Quran warns "kafir", i.e. an UNBELIEVER/INFIDEL.

Sura 15:9-11
15:9. We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).
15:10. We did send Apostles BEFORE thee amongst the religious sects (John 17:21; Sura 6:159) of old:
15:11. But never came an Apostle to them but they mocked him.

Sura 32:23. We did indeed aforetime give The Book (The Torah) to Moses: be then NOT IN DOUBT of its (The Torah) reaching (THEE): and We made it a Guide to the Children of Israel.

There are over two dozen references in the Koran/Quran COMMANDING true believers to read, study and apply both God's Law (found in the first five books of the Bible, namely: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, and to follow THE EXAMPLE found in Christ-Jesus, whom God sent to deliver HIS Message.

See: Sura 2:53, 2:87-93,2:97-98, 3:1-3, 3:48-50, 4:47, 4:54, 5:46-51, 6:91-94, 6:154-157, 7:157, 9:111, 10:37, 11:17, 12:111, 15:9-10, 17:2-4, 21:48, 22:52, 23:20, 23:49, 25:35, 28:1-3, 32:23, 35:25-32, 37:117, 40:53, 40:70, 41:45, 42:14-17, 45:16, 46:12, 46:30, 48:29, 53:36-47, 57:25-29, 61:6-7, 78:2

A few examples from the above list:

Sura 2:53. And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong [The Torah]): there was a chance for you to be guided aright.

Sura 3:1-3
3:1. A. L. M. (Almighty. Loving. Merciful.)
3:2. Allah (God). There is no God but He,- the Living, the Self-Existing (YHWH - "I AM"), Eternal.
3:3. It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it and He sent down The Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) BEFORE this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the Criterion (of Judgment between right and wrong).

Sura 5:47-50
5:47. It was We Who revealed The Law (to Moses): therein is Guidance and Light. By its Standard (Criterion) have been judged the Jews, by the Prophets who bowed to "I AM"'s Will; the Rabbis and the Doctors of Law: for to them was entrusted the protection of "I AM"'s Book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear Me, and sell not My Signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers.
5:48. We ordained therein for them: "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if any one remits the retaliation by way of charity, it is an act of atonement for himself (Matt. 5:44). And if any fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) wrong-doers (and are the accomplices of the wrong-doers and equally guilty).
5:49. And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming The Law that had come before him (Matt. 5:17-20): We sent him the Gospel: therein is Guidance and Light, and confirmation of The Law that had come before him: a Guidance and a Warning to those who fear "I AM".
5:50. Let the People of the Gospel judge by what "I AM" hath revealed therein. If ANY do fail to judge by (the Light of) what "I AM" hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel (and are equally guilty).

Sura 6:154-157
6:154. Moreover, We gave Moses the Book (Torah), COMPLETING (Our favour) to those who would do right, and explaining ALL things IN DETAIL,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord.
6:155. And this (Torah) is a Book which We have revealed as a BLESSING: so follow it and be righteous, that YE may receive mercy (Sura 32:23):
6:156. Lest YE should say: "The Book (Torah) was sent down to two Peoples before us, and for our part, we remained unacquainted with all that they learned by careful study:"
6:157. Or lest YE should say: "If the Book (Torah) had only been sent down to US, we should have FOLLOWED its guidance BETTER than they (Sura 32:23)." Now then hath come unto YOU a clear (Sign) from your Lord,- and a GUIDE and a MERCY: then who could do MORE WRONG than one who rejecteth "I AM"'s Signs (and Torah - Bible), and turneth away therefrom? In good time shall We requite those who turn away from Our Signs, with a dreadful penalty, for their turning away.

And, of course:

Sura 3:55. Behold! God said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee SUPERIOR to those who reject faith (John 14:6), to The Day of Resurrection: then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute (via Christ, whom God has given the authority to judge us all - John 5:22).

It should therefore be crystal clear that ANY so-called Muslim who is still falsely claiming the Bible has allegedly been corrupted, and/or that it allegedly can no longer be trusted -- allegedly because our ALL-POWERFUL GOD is supposedly powerless to stop puny humans from corrupting HIS Word, even though He promised that would NEVER happen -- is a LIAR, and the Truth is NOT in them.

1 John 2:1-7
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2:2 And he is the atonement for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, IF we keep His Commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in him.
2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old Commandment which ye had from the Beginning. The old Commandment is The Word which ye have heard from the Beginning (John 1:1-2).


Come out of the darkness of "Islam" (and ALL organized religion) and into THE LIGHT.

There is no other way to learn The Way home.
 
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