LGBT+ movement starting to backfire [part 3]

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Regarding the myth about it being about "love" and that same-sex male relationships are somehow healthier than heterosexual relationships...

Unless by healthy we mean lack of monogamy, short duration of relationships, and anything from dozens to hundreds of partners in a lifetime...











And yes, i know that many of these homosexual "values" - polygamy, open relationships, multiple partners, one night stands - have been adopted by other demographics the population in more recent times, as a result of the cultural subversion. Still doesnt make it right, victimless, or healthy.
Ever think these stats reflect a distillation of male sexuality and not homosexuality? Probably why wives were enshrined in American pop culture as a "ball and chain". Most men are regarded as "polysexual".
 

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Wander Lust suppose the name is just an accident. I think not. I would guess Satan himself is lurking around here somewhere and thinks he is being clever with all the statistical claptrap and other nonsense. My only question is who here is possibly a current or former member of NAMBLA. One of Satan's main characteristics is enjoying mocking and deceiving Christians and a certain Mr. LUST seems a little too pleased with himself and his statistics.
LOL, yes because saying the majority of gay men arent pedos means I am one. Brilliant thinking. Also, if you don't know what "wanderlust" means, just admit you have a limited vocabulary, no shame in that.
 

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Wander Lust suppose the name is just an accident. I think not. I would guess Satan himself is lurking around here somewhere and thinks he is being clever with all the statistical claptrap and other nonsense. My only question is who here is possibly a current or former member of NAMBLA. One of Satan's main characteristics is enjoying mocking and deceiving Christians and a certain Mr. LUST seems a little too pleased with himself and his statistics.
The name is revealing what his heart is full of - body/ eyes always wandering for lovers.
The average adult has physical desires that we give into from time to time. Ideally where it comes to sexual behaviour people keep it under control for their sake as well as others.
A mature adult doesn't let it control them. A person who lets their sexuality be **all** they are is an exceptionally shallow person.
 

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There is bad news RE Dr Jordan Peterson, the strong campaigner against wokeness and LGBT+ extremism.
Incredibly he has been told to be "educated ...or ELSE". Obviously the implications for fellow psychologists etc in Canada are very frightening.
It is a massive story.
The Spectator (UK) - Does Jordan Peterson need to be re-educated?
Wall Street Journal - The Campaign to Re-Educate Jordan Peterson. For speaking his mind, the psychologist could lose his license.

He is fighting back. Just in case his Twitter account is rebanned or he deletes the Tweet where he posted it, here is the pdf file where he gives the paperwork between himself and the Ontario College of Psychologists. They are blatantly out to silence him.

 

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There is bad news RE Dr Jordan Peterson, the strong campaigner against wokeness and LGBT+ extremism.
Incredibly he has been told to be "educated ...or ELSE". Obviously the implications for fellow psychologists etc in Canada are very frightening.
It is a massive story.
The Spectator (UK) - Does Jordan Peterson need to be re-educated?
Wall Street Journal - The Campaign to Re-Educate Jordan Peterson. For speaking his mind, the psychologist could lose his license.

He is fighting back. Just in case his Twitter account is rebanned or he deletes the Tweet where he posted it, here is the pdf file where he gives the paperwork between himself and the Ontario College of Psychologists. They are blatantly out to silence him.

Well, this was coming. *passes out popcorn* Love the tolerance and acceptance and freedom of speech coming out of Progressive Canada.
 

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Well, this was coming. *passes out popcorn* Love the tolerance and acceptance and freedom of speech coming out of Progressive Canada.
Australia wouldn't be far off Canada if the media and higher-ups have their way.
We are a stubborn lot though, when us common people find out what is going on we try to keep it from happening or at very least delay it. I listened to this interview yesterday, it is a pity she didn't get her seat last year.


The new Labor government hasn't rushed through any obviously pro-minority group policies so far thank goodness. They have been out of power for years so they probably are still tiptoeing slowly to not upset the voters who just voted Liberals out because we were sick of the old Prime Minister.
 

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Australia wouldn't be far off Canada if the media and higher-ups have their way.
We are a stubborn lot though, when us common people find out what is going on we try to keep it from happening or at very least delay it. I listened to this interview yesterday, it is a pity she didn't get her seat last year.


The new Labor government hasn't rushed through any obviously pro-minority group policies so far thank goodness. They have been out of power for years so they probably are still tiptoeing slowly to not upset the voters who just voted Liberals out because we were sick of the old Prime Minister.
It’s going to be interesting in the next election cycle. If we make it that far.
 

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If there are any people In Newcastle UK who are interested in TRUE women's rights, please turn up to support them on 15th January.

The transwomen are getting very upset about women daring to speak up for our rights and safety.

Just in case the Tweet is deleted, I have posted it here. These men are pathetic.

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Australia wouldn't be far off Canada if the media and higher-ups have their way.
We are a stubborn lot though, when us common people find out what is going on we try to keep it from happening or at very least delay it. I listened to this interview yesterday, it is a pity she didn't get her seat last year.


The new Labor government hasn't rushed through any obviously pro-minority group policies so far thank goodness. They have been out of power for years so they probably are still tiptoeing slowly to not upset the voters who just voted Liberals out because we were sick of the old Prime Minister.
Didn't Australians voluntarily give up their rights to possess fire arms?
 

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Didn't Australians voluntarily give up their rights to possess fire arms?
Yes that was in response to Port Arthur Massacre in 1996. The average Australian agrees with that policy. There are gun laws permitting people without any convictions to use guns with a license e.g. farmer.
We see the USA and shake our heads. I expect Americans do the same to us. :)
 
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There is bad news RE Dr Jordan Peterson, the strong campaigner against wokeness and LGBT+ extremism.
Incredibly he has been told to be "educated ...or ELSE". Obviously the implications for fellow psychologists etc in Canada are very frightening.
It is a massive story.
The Spectator (UK) - Does Jordan Peterson need to be re-educated?
Wall Street Journal - The Campaign to Re-Educate Jordan Peterson. For speaking his mind, the psychologist could lose his license.

He is fighting back. Just in case his Twitter account is rebanned or he deletes the Tweet where he posted it, here is the pdf file where he gives the paperwork between himself and the Ontario College of Psychologists. They are blatantly out to silence him.

Whatever happened to Crocodile Dundee ? In the movie they made Australians look tough and scary.
 

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Whatever happened to Crocodile Dundee ? In the movie they made Australians look tough and scary.
He was a stereotype of all the people who live in the outback melded together. Some people are like that for real in personality though. The average city dweller is nothing like him.
It isn't Australians who should scare you, it's the weather, the bushfires and the animals you should worry about.... like the drop bear and hoop snake.

Where it comes to social issues, we are pretty live and let live, think of what is best for society in general... until we get pushed too far and then we stand our ground.
 
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He was a stereotype of all the people who live in the outback melded together. Some people are like that for real in personality though. The average city dweller is nothing like him.
It isn't Australians who should scare you, it's the weather, the bushfires and the animals you should worry about.... like the drop bear and hoop snake.

Where it comes to social issues, we are pretty live and let live, think of what is best for society in general... until we get pushed too far and then we stand our ground.
I read somewhere once that Australia has aggressive spiders that instead of running away from humans they actually come at you.
 

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If there are any people In Newcastle UK who are interested in TRUE women's rights, please turn up to support them on 15th January.

The transwomen are getting very upset about women daring to speak up for our rights and safety.

Just in case the Tweet is deleted, I have posted it here. These men are pathetic.

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Oh good god...

So, as this was something that came up in another thread and kicked off a huge dialogue between Wanderlust and you I'm going to say my peace on this. First, defining "TERF" for those who do not know Terf = Trans Exclusionist Radical Feminist. Ok? Good. As a feminist myself, and radical because I think I am pretty radical, and as a secular pro-life, democratic, feminist. I acknowledge the arguments made by biologically female people who feel threatened by transgender people who call themselves "women" yet do not have and will not understand what it is to be female biologically and physically. It would be the same if I tried to understand how Wanderlust may feel as a gay person. I might have an idea, but my ideas are limited based on what I have read or witnessed. If my source material about this is flawed (ie my only understanding of the feminine is based on pornography, media, and anecdotal experiences) I am only getting a part of the whole picture.

Furthermore, this has been compounded and complicated by people who have been imposters using "gender dysphoria" as a way to avoid being sent to a male prison or to gain access to vulnerable women. These agent provocateurs create strife and discord among women by demanding to be accepted and welcomed (or in some cases, starting a relationship) with women and, when rejected, become aggressive and violent. I'm going to refer to the elephant in the room here and speak on JK Rowling's open letter and her arguments as to why she believes transgenderism is dangerous. She lists it in five points, and I have provided the link to the letter to read for yourself if interested.
The transgender "movement" is dangerous because of the following:
1. It puts caregivers in a dangerous position and emotionally sabotages them into thinking they must allow for their child to undergo a procedure that will permanently alter them forever.
2. It jeopardizes vulnerable women and girls by "redefining" sex and gender
3. It will negatively affect education and society
4. The dysphoria could be a result of a dangerous echo chamber found online that self-perpetuates natural dysphoria felt at puberty
5. It is the byproduct of a misogynistic society to directly quote her words:
"We’re living through the most misogynistic period I’ve experienced. Back in the 80s, I imagined that my future daughters, should I have any, would have it far better than I ever did, but between the backlash against feminism and a porn-saturated online culture, I believe things have got significantly worse for girls. Never have I seen women denigrated and dehumanised to the extent they are now. From the leader of the free world’s long history of sexual assault accusations and his proud boast of ‘grabbing them by the pussy’, to the incel (‘involuntarily celibate’) movement that rages against women who won’t give them sex, to the trans activists who declare that TERFs need punching and re-educating, men across the political spectrum seem to agree: women are asking for trouble. Everywhere, women are being told to shut up and sit down, or else."
Source: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Rowling was canceled and has faced death threats and has been blackballed by the media. Yet, she has stood by her position on the matter because, in truth, I think she is right.

"I’ve read all the arguments about femaleness not residing in the sexed body, and the assertions that biological women don’t have common experiences, and I find them, too, deeply misogynistic and regressive. It’s also clear that one of the objectives of denying the importance of sex is to erode what some seem to see as the cruel segregationist idea of women having their own biological realities or – just as threatening – unifying realities that make them a cohesive political class. The hundreds of emails I’ve received in the last few days prove this erosion concerns many others just as much. It isn’t enough for women to be trans allies. Women must accept and admit that there is no material difference between trans women and themselves.
But, as many women have told me, ‘woman’ is not a costume. ‘Woman’ is not an idea in a man’s head. ‘Woman’ is not a pink brain, a liking for Jimmy Choos, or any other sexist ideas now somehow touted as progressive. Moreover, the ‘inclusive’ language that calls female people ‘menstruators’ and ‘people with vulvas’ strikes many women as dehumanizing and demeaning. I understand why trans activists consider this language to be appropriate and kind, but for those of us who’ve had degrading slurs spat at us by violent men, it’s not neutral. It’s hostile and alienating."

Source: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Ultimately, we need to follow the narrative to see the motive as to why such a group demands an all-or-nothing approach. Inclusive means to include to welcome in, and that also means that there will be differences, and it means to recognize those differences for what they are, not try to change the definition or homogenize the group. I find it rather humorous that the trans activists are afraid of being doxxed when they are more than happy to do the deed to a "TERF". Again, the double standard is remarkable.

"We become by performing the action." Aristotle.
"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions that differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." - Albert Einstein
 
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He was a stereotype of all the people who live in the outback melded together. Some people are like that for real in personality though. The average city dweller is nothing like him.
It isn't Australians who should scare you, it's the weather, the bushfires and the animals you should worry about.... like the drop bear and hoop snake.

Where it comes to social issues, we are pretty live and let live, think of what is best for society in general... until we get pushed too far and then we stand our ground.
Put another shrimp on the barbie mate lol. I think that was his big commercial line.
 

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Oh good god...

So, as this was something that came up in another thread and kicked off a huge dialogue between Wanderlust and you I'm going to say my peace on this. First, defining "TERF" for those who do not know Terf = Trans Exclusionist Radical Feminist. Ok? Good. As a feminist myself, and radical because I think I am pretty radical, and as a secular pro-life, democratic, feminist. I acknowledge the arguments made by biologically female people who feel threatened by transgender people who call themselves "women" yet do not have and will not understand what it is to be female biologically and physically. It would be the same if I tried to understand how Wanderlust may feel as a gay person. I might have an idea, but my ideas are limited based on what I have read or witnessed. If my source material about this is flawed (ie my only understanding of the feminine is based on pornography, media, and anecdotal experiences) I am only getting a part of the whole picture.

Furthermore, this has been compounded and complicated by people who have been imposters using "gender dysphoria" as a way to avoid being sent to a male prison or to gain access to vulnerable women. These agent provocateurs create strife and discord among women by demanding to be accepted and welcomed (or in some cases, starting a relationship) with women and, when rejected, become aggressive and violent. I'm going to refer to the elephant in the room here and speak on JK Rowling's open letter and her arguments as to why she believes transgenderism is dangerous. She lists it in five points, and I have provided the link to the letter to read for yourself if interested.
The transgender "movement" is dangerous because of the following:
1. It puts caregivers in a dangerous position and emotionally sabotages them into thinking they must allow for their child to undergo a procedure that will permanently alter them forever.
2. It jeopardizes vulnerable women and girls by "redefining" sex and gender
3. It will negatively affect education and society
4. The dysphoria could be a result of a dangerous echo chamber found online that self-perpetuates natural dysphoria felt at puberty
5. It is the byproduct of a misogynistic society to directly quote her words:
"We’re living through the most misogynistic period I’ve experienced. Back in the 80s, I imagined that my future daughters, should I have any, would have it far better than I ever did, but between the backlash against feminism and a porn-saturated online culture, I believe things have got significantly worse for girls. Never have I seen women denigrated and dehumanised to the extent they are now. From the leader of the free world’s long history of sexual assault accusations and his proud boast of ‘grabbing them by the pussy’, to the incel (‘involuntarily celibate’) movement that rages against women who won’t give them sex, to the trans activists who declare that TERFs need punching and re-educating, men across the political spectrum seem to agree: women are asking for trouble. Everywhere, women are being told to shut up and sit down, or else."
Source: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Rowling was canceled and has faced death threats and has been blackballed by the media. Yet, she has stood by her position on the matter because, in truth, I think she is right.

"I’ve read all the arguments about femaleness not residing in the sexed body, and the assertions that biological women don’t have common experiences, and I find them, too, deeply misogynistic and regressive. It’s also clear that one of the objectives of denying the importance of sex is to erode what some seem to see as the cruel segregationist idea of women having their own biological realities or – just as threatening – unifying realities that make them a cohesive political class. The hundreds of emails I’ve received in the last few days prove this erosion concerns many others just as much. It isn’t enough for women to be trans allies. Women must accept and admit that there is no material difference between trans women and themselves.
But, as many women have told me, ‘woman’ is not a costume. ‘Woman’ is not an idea in a man’s head. ‘Woman’ is not a pink brain, a liking for Jimmy Choos, or any other sexist ideas now somehow touted as progressive. Moreover, the ‘inclusive’ language that calls female people ‘menstruators’ and ‘people with vulvas’ strikes many women as dehumanizing and demeaning. I understand why trans activists consider this language to be appropriate and kind, but for those of us who’ve had degrading slurs spat at us by violent men, it’s not neutral. It’s hostile and alienating."

Source: https://www.jkrowling.com/opinions/j-k-rowling-writes-about-her-reasons-for-speaking-out-on-sex-and-gender-issues/

Ultimately, we need to follow the narrative to see the motive as to why such a group demands an all-or-nothing approach. Inclusive means to include to welcome in, and that also means that there will be differences, and it means to recognize those differences for what they are, not try to change the definition or homogenize the group. I find it rather humorous that the trans activists are afraid of being doxxed when they are more than happy to do the deed to a "TERF". Again, the double standard is remarkable.

"We become by performing the action." Aristotle.
"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions that differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are even incapable of forming such opinions." - Albert Einstein
I find men trying to mimic having periods, pregnancies and all other biological processes unique to women especially disgusting.
Using sanitary products is not our kink, it is a necessity for hygiene, clean clothing and feeling as comfortable as possible.
No woman is ever going to pretend having wet dreams or erections as part of becoming a transman for Heaven's sake! It is a fetish, a disgusting one unique to men!
People with a uterus: Women sometimes have to have hysterectomies, sometimes removal of cervix as well due to cancer- does that make them "it"?!
People who menstruate: does that make me, a woman going through menopause an "it".. even though I went through nearly 40 years of PMT and periods, two pregnancies, two caesarians and breastfeeding two babies?
A man has absolutely NO idea of those life experiences and body changes- NONE!!!!

It makes me so furious because we can't just shed our female body like changing clothes and make-up. Medically some women like me have it very hard from hormone swings over the month.
*rant over for now*
 
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