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First of all, most people in Europe have been disarmed. Secondly, we are all aware that American police, but not just American police, certain American communities too, are more trigger happy than in most European countries.

But there's no point in acting like these protests revolve primarily around police brutality. They revolve around racism. To connect these two and turn police brutality against citizens into racial oppression, you need data and evidence to back up the claim that (white) police officers disproportionately discriminate against black people. That data doesn't exist. In fact, most data that includes the race of officers involved in fatal shootings seems to show that black and hispanic cops, but especially black cops, pull the trigger more often.

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Read the following text underneath to get more info about race relations between officers and shot civilians.

If these numbers are correct or at least to a high degree, than the narrative about white cops shooting blacks deserves to be muted, because not only is it a lie, it's doing a lot of harm.
here you go:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11524-020-00430-0
“Conversely, class 6 (low threat, likely unarmed), which are LIH characterized by an apparent absence of force used by the victim, is the only class in which the plurality of victims is a non-white race (black, non-Hispanic). This finding comports with prior LIH research that finds that black Americans are not only disproportionately likely to be killed by law enforcement but are disproportionately unlikely to present an objective threat of deadly force (as measured both directly by mention of use of force by victim in incident narratives and by proxy through victim’s armed status)”
 

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And the drugs they like to approve of like marijuana being legalized...more dumbing down of people.
There is not a whole lot one can say to someone who is an uneducated marijuna hater. The dumbing down is you and your ignorance. It is booze that makes people idiots, not most drugs. It is Alcohol that has destroyed lives for thousands of years, while marijuna heals and nutures. It has already been proven to reduce symptoms or outright cure of thousands of illnesses. Please try to hold in your ignorance.
 
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That it was staged. Learn to read.
the whole world is staged.

they will turn any situation to their benefit.

they've got all angles covered.

but right now we've got a serious problem with this police state and the criminalization of political opposition, and psychopath in charge of the most powerful nation in the world.

and you're out digging for clues for something that doesn't even matter.
 

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they wanted this to go world wide
Yes. It's not just some random police brutality they saw that COVID19 scam was getting massively exposed so they are doing this now to help create the environment for worldwide martial law. Big psychological operation.
 

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the whole world is staged.

they will turn any situation to their benefit.

they've got all angles covered.

but right now we've got a serious problem with this police state and the criminalization of political opposition, and psychopath in charge of the most powerful nation in the world.

and you're out digging for clues for something that doesn't even matter.
I look at everything, not just the police state which is pretty damn obvious for anyone with even a potato for a head.
 

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Some positive news




Although, I have to say that I have some questions about how this was able to be recorded without the officers ever seeming to be concerned about this potential. It’s not like cell phones are new, and the officers standing around don’t even seem to make a sweep of their surroundings when this was filmed unless I’m seeing a small clip and there is a longer version.

since trump seems to have basically hired his own police force, I have questions about these officers.


I guess these guys say they are with the department of justice when asked. I’m thinking this is just another way of saying that they work for the president.
 
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Lol. Yes western culture is permeated with SJW nonsense. If you are a man, and white you are a dumbass and nothing you have is because you earned it but because you are "priviledged."

And bullshit like this they are even indoctrinating the children:

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I think that kind of shaming stuff is stupid and not really productive.

Doesn't however mean that white privilege is not a real phenomenon.

Also just because you point out instances like this, doesn't mean it's some common thing happening on a wide scale. It's not the big problem you make it our to be.

White people aren't walking around en masse all ashamed.

And nobody said you couldn't have earned anything if you are a white man ?

Are you arguing with your strawman again ?
 
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I think that kind of shaming stuff is stupid and not really productive.

Doesn't however mean that white privilege is not a real phenomenon.

Also just because you point out instances like this, doesn't mean it's some common thing happening on a wide scale. It's not the big problem you make it our to be.

White people aren't walking around en masse all ashamed.

And nobody said you couldn't have earned anything if you are a white man ?

Are you arguing with your strawman again ?
Right wing propaganda outlets are pushing this false notion that white privilege means something different such as shaming yourself for the existence of racism, or that you couldn’t have possibly struggled while being white or whatever etc etc
 

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Obvious deflection and did not answer the questions. What are the discrediting actions that dissenters are being incited to do? Are they being forced to do these actions, or something?

Everyone has the choice to do right or wrong. Everyone.
No, it was an honest question. If you don’t understand group psychology or if you believe psychology is quack science period then there is no point in me responding.
 

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Right wing propaganda outlets are pushing this false notion that white privilege means something different such as shaming yourself for the existence of racism, or that you couldn’t have possibly struggled while being white or whatever etc etc
I just explained to my son that privilege does not mean your life is all peaches or you don’t struggle. I get that the concept can be confusing.. but if a 16 year old can comprehend it after a fifteen minute conversation..
 

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now they’re rolling out the terrorists..


Great upstanding guy. Maybe they should have crushed his neck to death.. no? Why not? (I am being facetious, I’m happy they didn’t)
 
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Right wing propaganda outlets are pushing this false notion that white privilege means something different such as shaming yourself for the existence of racism, or that you couldn’t have possibly struggled while being white or whatever etc etc
Pretty much everything they do is a false notion.

They always create strawmen, make exaggerations, twist things out of context, or outright make shit up.

Its tiring listening to all their talking points, but I've heard every single one, and they all fall apart with the slightest scrutiny.

I've been on forums almost entirely consisting of far right people, in one form or another. I've heard ot all. It's all boring and a distraction from the real issues.

But basically the wanna act the victim so they can justify the awful shit they wanna do.
 
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I just explained to my son that privilege does not mean your life is all peaches or you don’t struggle. I get that the concept can be confusing.. but if a 16 year old can comprehend it after a fifteen minute conversation..
As a mixed race person who grew up in a middle upper class family I can admit that I have many privileges over a poor white person.

But in other aspects they will have privilege over me.

These conversations are nuanced. It doesn't help to turn them into silly memes.But right wingers are only interested in playing the victim, so they can create fake outrage.
 

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George Floyd was a 46 year old man from Texas with six felonies including armed robbery where he pointed a gun at the stomach of a pregnant black woman.

He had been arrested for cocaine possession and also narcotics distribution, spent several years in prison and then moved to Minnesota “to clean up his life.”

He was in a low budget pornographic movie, had pre-existing heart problems, had drugs on him at the time of arrest for trying to pass a fake $20 bill, while clearly intoxicated and that was the reason the police were phoned on him.

Gets arrested for driving under the influence, resists arrest, and dies from a heart attack, tests positive for fentanyl and meth.

This causes celebrities, antifa, and self-hating white people to go on a tirade about social injustice, even though white people are killed more frequently than black people by police. Furthermore, black people kill more white people despite being only a fraction of the population. Both black people and police officers kill on average more than 1 white person per day.

White liberals are the only demographic that don't have in-group preference, making white people provably scientifically the least prejudice out of all races.

My conclusion:

The average person is so fucking braindead and brainwashed by social media that society is completely irredeemable. We live in an age of anti-intellectualism and the mob is a bunch of frothy mouthed retards that should be put in an insane asylum, including the celebrities.
 

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Bullshit non-answer, because you have no real answer other than excuses for criminals. People are responsible for their actions, end of. People are also responsible for defending criminal actions, just as you've done from the beginning. No one is forcing anyone to riot and loot. Psychology doesn't erase the destruction and murder. Pretend all you want, but it's all lies.

The more people like you excuse, tolerate, and even support criminality, the worse things will get. What goes around will come around.
Are you triggered? Do you need a safe space? Seriously. Chill the f*** out. I asked you a question. That’s what people do.

clearly the answer was no - your not familiar with or do not believe in group psychology and probably not psychology at all. I’m a social worker and a behaviorist. How exactly do you think a conversation between us is going to go?

I’m not defending criminals. I’m defending people’s right to air their grievances in a system that denies them a voice. I am not okay with unprovoked violence on persons on either side of this issue. I’m not okay with trashing small businesses. idgaf if every police station in the country burns - buildings aren’t people and those specific buildings are symbolic of oppression. If you’ve never had first hand experience with oppression at the hands of a power drunk cop, I’m happy for you. That isn’t the experience of a vast amount of our fellow citizens.

 
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Philly is always a war zone. Atleast certain parts of it.
 
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