George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

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What isn't clear? I don't want to debate the premise. I just posted it to get others take on it. I'm not decided myself either way about it as there is not enough information available to make my own conclusion at this time. Hence the reason for posting to see if others have more information or insights into it. What is so confusing about that?
It's amazing how anything posted is immediately extrapolated into "what side youre on". Really a sign of the time
 






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When I want to know what the establishment and CIA want us to think about the world, I read cnn
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that is some simple minded partisan garbage. It doesn't work that way. Trump is in control of the CIA by the way, so how exactly does that work out ? CNN is the voice of the anti-Trump dialectic and Fox is the voice of the pro-Trump dialectic. You act as if there is no establishment or CIA behind the Fox narrative. You dont really seem to understand how this whole thing works.
Go look and see if you can find an article about the rioters or looters. It’s like people don’t even know it’s happening. One poster earlier said she was shocked when seeing rioters beating someone having not seen it.
the rioters attacked CNN for fucks sake, I dont know what you are talking about. Again here it is for you simple. Fox pushes the police state by putting your attention on rioters and looters while ignoring the context and ignoring the heavy handed police comming down on peaceful protesters. CNN pushes the phony outrage of police brutality. They give you slogans but they dont lead you to anything concrete that changes anything. They tell you to vote for Biden, even though Biden was responsible for a massive crime bill which targeted blacks.

thats how it works.
no they want you to feel like thismovement is an expression of “everything you’re mad at”. I promise it’s not.
actually it is, but its being co-opted to be limited in its scope, so nothing is achieved.

It’s lawlessness meant to sow an unfixable divide, police presence being hardened againstpeople, and who knows what else. It is what the establishment wants. That’s why every company from the Bank of America to Sony is supporting it
the lawlessness is only a tiny fraction of what is going on. A tiny fraction that Fox, Trump, AND YOU YOURSELF, amplify in order to bring in the police state.

You are working for the agenda. You just can't see it because you are so heavily stuck in the "culture wars"

What the establishment wants is a "setup" A few bad apples to become the face of a legitmate movement, and then "law and order" is brought in.

bank of America and Sony are all corporations that understand they can't make money if there is CHAOS.
 






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that is some simple minded partisan garbage. It doesn't work that way. Trump is in control of the CIA by the way, so how exactly does that work out ? CNN is the voice of the anti-Trump dialectic and Fox is the voice of the pro-Trump dialectic. You act as if there is no establishment or CIA behind the Fox narrative. You dont really seem to understand how this whole thing works.


the rioters attacked CNN for fucks sake, I dont know what you are talking about. Again here it is for you simple. Fox pushes the police state by putting your attention on rioters and looters while ignoring the context and ignoring the heavy handed police comming down on peaceful protesters. CNN pushes the phony outrage of police brutality. They give you slogans but they dont lead you to anything concrete that changes anything. They tell you to vote for Biden, even though Biden was responsible for a massive crime bill which targeted blacks.

thats how it works.


actually it is, but its being co-opted to be limited in its scope, so nothing is achieved.



the lawlessness is only a tiny fraction of what is going on. A tiny fraction that Fox, Trump, AND YOU YOURSELF, amplify in order to bring in the police state.

You are working for the agenda. You just can't see it because you are so heavily stuck in the "culture wars"

What the establishment wants is a "setup" A few bad apples to become the face of a legitmate movement, and then "law and order" is brought in.

bank of America and Sony are all corporations that understand they can't make money if there is CHAOS.
I can't read your stuff man. I don't come here to be berated by you.
Peace
 






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What isn't clear? I don't want to debate the premise. I just posted it to get others take on it. I'm not decided myself either way about it as there is not enough information available to make my own conclusion at this time. Hence the reason for posting to see if others have more information or insights into it. What is so confusing about that?
No, that much is clear. I thought you were asking something else.
 






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And of course, his family and friends would all be complicit and compliant?
Would they know? Just playing devil’s advocate. We do know Floyd and the cope worked at same company - which is interesting.

However- it looks like complete police abuse to my eyes.

That being said - it may be real, maybe not - but for certain this event was used as a catalyst to create chaos. Just like corona. Did it come from a lab? Was it man made? We will never know. But it certainly was used as a springboard to install maximum control over the public. Both mind and body.
 






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Would they know? Just playing devil’s advocate. We do know Floyd and the cope worked at same company - which is interesting.

However- it looks like complete police abuse to my eyes.

That being said - it may be real, maybe not - but for certain this event was used as a catalyst to create chaos. Just like corona. Did it come from a lab? Was it man made? We will never know. But it certainly was used as a springboard to install maximum control over the public. Both mind and body.
There is evidence which suggests it is very, very unlikely to have been manufactured in a lab.
However, that’s not what this thread about.
 






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@Tidal need a nap? You’re getting grumpy. I think all of this hiding behind Jesus while lashing out with your repressed anger has you a bit tuckered.
 






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Guys, there's a George Floyd memorial service right now, I'm watching it on the news. I wish I could go, but they're a little too far. Also, do you think the policemen will finally get convicted some time after this? I really want to see them go to jail so we can finally have our justice for this specific problem. Obviously, even if they did go to jail, this one event wouldn't stop future events like this from happening, but I still gotta feel thankful.
 






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Tidal said- I hear that George Floyd bloke was a troublemaking junky and cheque-forger who was disrespecting the police by resisting arrest. Some people might lament a criminal's passing (black or white) but I'm certainly not one of them.. :)
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Jesus and Christianity is crystal clear about people who reject him-
"dogs, pigs." (Matt 7:6)
"weeds" (Matt 13:38 )
"brute beasts," (2 Peter 2:12)
"liars" (1 John 2:22/23)
"defiled" (Titus 1:15)

"filthy" (Rev 22:11)

If people are happy to have criminals like Floyd running around endangering their wives and kids, they must be lousy hubs and fathers and you can't get much lower than that..;)
I would like to know what you think of George, because it seems you're on to him. I kind of am too, but not to the extent you are. Mind explaining so I can possibly have an understanding as to why you go against him?
 






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Sure but where is the balancing force that used to come from the rationalists?

Don't get me wrong, postmodernism can clearly work as a vehicle for change. We are seeing it in action right now. Take Ohio for example. Governor Dewine is saying stuff about reform he would have never said without these riots. Will there be follow through? I honestly don't know.
Meanwhile they just killed a man with tear gas in the federal lockup in nyc. All talk until proven otherwise as far as I’m concerned.
ANTIFA starting a real revolution? That's funny. ANTIFA is just a tool to create chaos so the deep state can continue to take away our freedoms and distract us from what's really happening. A real revolution? LOL!
your flying blind here old friend
 






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Guys, there's a George Floyd memorial service right now, I'm watching it on the news. I wish I could go, but they're a little too far. Also, do you think the policemen will finally get convicted some time after this? I really want to see them go to jail so we can finally have our justice for this specific problem. Obviously, even if they did go to jail, this one event wouldn't stop future events like this from happening, but I still gotta feel thankful.
Probably. Only 10 unarmed black men were killed by the police in 2019, 5 of which attacked the officer right before. Of the remaining 5, 3 officers went to jail for homicide, one other was an accident, one was a multi hour stand off with a man who said he was going to kill the cops and had a gun.
 






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So where is the media and public outcry about the retired Saint Louis police chief who was murdered while trying to stop looters? He, as a person, and his situation when he was murdered, is certainly a more noble story than that of George Floyd. Why no outcries for justice for him? Why no national televised memorials for him? Oh that's right, his story does not fit the narrative and agenda that is being pushed upon us.
 






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So where is the media and public outcry about the retired Saint Louis police chief who was murdered while trying to stop looters? He, as a person, and his situation when he was murdered, is certainly a more noble story than that of George Floyd. Why no outcries for justice for him? Why no national televised memorials for him? Oh that's right, his story does not fit the narrative and agenda that is being pushed upon us.
If he was murdered - and I’m not suggesting for one minute that he wasn’t - then justice should be done.
 






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Guys, there's a George Floyd memorial service right now, I'm watching it on the news. I wish I could go, but they're a little too far. Also, do you think the policemen will finally get convicted some time after this? I really want to see them go to jail so we can finally have our justice for this specific problem. Obviously, even if they did go to jail, this one event wouldn't stop future events like this from happening, but I still gotta feel thankful.
The video evidence is pretty damning for the police officers.
I suppose my one question in all this, is why no one did more to intervene?
Perhaps, it’s because they were frightened of what would happen if they did but they all looked on while a man was killed.
 






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So where is the media and public outcry about the retired Saint Louis police chief who was murdered while trying to stop looters? He, as a person, and his situation when he was murdered, is certainly a more noble story than that of George Floyd. Why no outcries for justice for him? Why no national televised memorials for him? Oh that's right, his story does not fit the narrative and agenda that is being pushed upon us.
The outrage is that police can murder and get away with it. They are protected by the system.

You can't murder a police chief and have the system protect you.

Big difference.

There would be NONE of this going on, and that retired police chief would still be alive, if police were actually held accountable to the law they claim to protect.
 






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The outrage is that police can murder and get away with it. They are protected by the system.

You can't murder a police chief and have the system protect you.

Big difference.

There would be NONE of this going on if police were actually held accountable to the law they claim to protect.
Literally all anyone is asking for is that the police are held to the same standard as the people they police. Somehow this gets missed
 






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Literally all anyone is asking for us that the police are held to the same standard as the people they police. Somehow this gets missed
Is that all?


See above post
Probably. Only 10 unarmed black men were killed by the police in 2019, 5 of which attacked the officer right before. Of the remaining 5, 3 officers went to jail for homicide, one other was an accident, one was a multi hour stand off with a man who said he was going to kill the cops and had a gun.
And ask yourself if they are held to that standard,
 






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I think a lot of people have been taught to hate cops more than they hate criminals.
So is it ok to hate cops who are criminals?.... and who's going around teaching people to hate cops?.... is it like a night class type thing?

That's far more dangerous than the threat of a police state
What a load of bollocks If you think we all need a police state to keep us safe from marauding civilians just get the police to do what they are supposed to do, protect and serve the public.....by consent!

Because from whichever way you look at it, a society needs police, it doesn't need criminals.
No, a society needs police that are not criminals themselves, feckin simple really! If it wasn't for criminal cops showtimed on mainstream news across the world there would be no rioting to quell. Everybody would be at home trying not to come into contact with the invisible enemy.

You who love your servitude think you need protection from everything. Minds completely rinsed.
 






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