Free Speech Threat

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"LAST NIGHT, the ACLU posted a letter it sent to all members of the Senate urging them to oppose this bill. Warning that “proponents of the bill are seeking additional co-sponsors,” the civil liberties group explained that “it would punish individuals for no reason other than their political beliefs.” The letter detailed what makes this bill so particularly threatening to basic civic freedoms."

Thanks for the article TMT and I agree with your above assessment!
Amazing that one by one American civil liberties are under assault and the peeps are sleeping.
The zombification is effective.
 

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"LAST NIGHT, the ACLU posted a letter it sent to all members of the Senate urging them to oppose this bill. Warning that “proponents of the bill are seeking additional co-sponsors,” the civil liberties group explained that “it would punish individuals for no reason other than their political beliefs.” The letter detailed what makes this bill so particularly threatening to basic civic freedoms."

Thanks for the article TMT and I agree with your above assessment!
Amazing that one by one American civil liberties are under assault and the peeps are sleeping.
The zombification is effective.
If this passes and gets a rubber stamp from SCOTUS, it's only a matter time before it's illegal to speak out against war, or surveillance, or any political opinion that is inconvenient to whatever regime resides in DC.
 

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If this passes and gets a rubber stamp from SCOTUS, it's only a matter time before it's illegal to speak out against war, or surveillance, or any political opinion that is inconvenient to whatever regime resides in DC.
Can you imagine the ramifications?
Totalitarian statehood that will eventually tell you what to think and where to go or not....
This is the opposite of what the entire world has known the US for.
 

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This would just seem to demonstrate the progression of the Israeli lobby to control the US and turn us into an extension of Israel. A similar law was already made in Israel several years ago regarding the settlements. Somehow, we still ended up agreeing to give them 38 billion dollars over the next 10 years; or, the Israeli lobby gave themselves 38 billion dollars to make it seem like people support the creation of Israel when we shouldn't. We are basically being forced to take a 38 billion dollar loan to give to the Israeli government in order to turn us into their slaves, but this falls on deaf ears. So it doesn't surprise me to hear this at all. Not surprised at all.

This is from an article about the present Boycott law in Israel.

"What the Boycott Law says is that any Israeli could face legal action just for speaking out in favor of boycotting settlements. Human rights groups say that is a step in a wrong direction." https://www.rt.com/news/boycott-law-israel-palestine-499/

We actually already have a law regarding trade that addresses this subject as well called HR 825.

“Drafting HR 825, then known as the US-Israel Trade and Commercial Enhancement Act, took several months. A bipartisan group of congressmen worked with the American Israel Public Affairs Committee on its language.

The purpose of that bill, according to one aide familiar with its drafting, was “to discourage potential trade partners from participating in or promoting politically motivated acts of BDS against Israel, and to seek the elimination of boycotts and barriers to trade where they exist.”

http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/US-Congress-passes-rare-law-targeting-boycotts-of-Israel-407056

It just all seems to become more and more obvious where the real threat to our freedom is coming from.

It seems that Netanyahu is even suing people for participating in these boycott endeavors on occasion.

“Meanwhile, Israel's prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, reportedly convened a meeting with senior ministers several days after Kerry’s remarks to discuss ways to combat the growing threat of boycotts, including suing companies that boycott those who do business in the settlements and encouraging anti-boycott legislation in “friendly” countries. (Calling for boycotts against Israel is already illegal within Israel thanks to a law passed in 2011.)”

Legitimately, we should have the right to boycott whatever we want. A boycott is a very effective and peaceful way to seek improvements when human rights are being violated. We should not be forced to buy anything that we do not want to buy.

Although, it would seem that we are on the road to being forced to buy what we are told to buy.
 

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WHAT IS BDS?
FROM THE WEBSITE:
https://bdsmovement.net/what-is-bds

BDS is an inclusive, anti-racist human rights movement that is opposed on principle to all forms of discrimination, including anti-semitism and Islamophobia.

A global movement
The BDS movement is supported by unions, churches, NGOs and movements representing millions across every continent and there are vibrant BDS campaigns in communities across the world. Progressive Jewish groups play an important role in the movement.

Public figures including Archbishop Desmond Tutu, Naomi Klein, Roger Waters, Angela Davis and Judith Butler back BDS. The slider below features just a small selection of the movement's supporters.

OVERVIEW
Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) is a Palestinian-led movement for freedom, justice and equality. BDS upholds the simple principle that Palestinians are entitled to the same rights as the rest of humanity.

Israel is occupying and colonising Palestinian land, discriminating against Palestinian citizens of Israel and denying Palestinian refugees the right to return to their homes. Inspired by the South African anti-apartheid movement, the BDS call urges action to pressure Israel to comply with international law.

BDS is now a vibrant global movement made up of unions, academic associations, churches and grassroots movements across the world. Eleven years since its launch, BDS is having a major impact and is effectively challenging international support for Israeli apartheid and settler-colonialism.

Ending its occupation and colonization of all Arab lands and dismantling the Wall
International law recognizes the West Bank including East Jerusalem, Gaza and the Syrian Golan Heights as occupied by Israel. As part of its military occupation, Israel steals land and forces Palestinians into ghettos, surrounded by checkpoints, settlements and watchtowers and an illegal apartheid Wall. Israel has imposed a medieval siege on Gaza , turning it into the largest open air prison in the world. Israel also regularly carries out large-scale assaults on Gaza that are widely condemned as constituting war crimes and crimes against humanity.
 

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Bipartisan US Bill Moves To Criminalize Boycotting Israel
Lawmakers in both the United States and Israel are ramping up efforts to suppress support for the Boycott Divestment and Sactions (BDS) movement.
By teleSUR | July 20, 2017

Protesters demonstrate against a state-sanctioned backlash against the movement for Palestinian human rights. New York City, June 9, 2016. (Photo: Erik McGregor/Pacific Press/ Sipa/AP)

The ACLU released a statement this week opposing the Israel Anti-Boycott Act (H.R. 167/S.720), a bill with bi-partisan support seeking to ban support for the Boycott Divestment and Sanctions movement (BDS) for anyone engaged in “interstate or foreign commerce,” imposing penalties of up to 20 years in prison.

Israel meanwhile, is looking to make Israeli state action against BDS campaigners secret, by exempting these actions from Israel’s Freedom of Information Law which allows Israeli citizens and residents to obtain public information.

In a statement released Monday about the U.S. bill, which was first introduced in March, the ACLU said that “The bill would impose civil and criminal punishment on individuals solely because of their political beliefs about Israel and its policies.”

The civil liberties group pointed out that there are numerous businesses and individuals who do not engage in transactions with Israel or Israeli companies for reasons of political opposition to the ongoing occupation of Palestinian territories, and that these people would face harsh, legal penalties under the law. The ACLU, although it emphasizes that it takes “no stance” on boycotts, argues that the proposed law is a first-amendment constitutional violation.

According to the proposed law, which is sponsored by Democratic Senator Benjamin L. Cardin and backed by a group of 43 U.S. Senators – 14 Democrats and 29 Republicans – those who violate the measure could face up to a US$1 million fine and 20 years in prison

“The bill amends the Export-Import Bank Act of 1945 to include as a reason for the Export-Import Bank to deny credit applications for the export of goods and services between the United States and foreign countries, opposition to policies and actions that are politically motivated and are intended to penalize or otherwise limit commercial relations specifically with citizens or residents of Israel, entities organized under the laws of Israel, or the Government of Israel,” the bill’s summary states on Congress’s website.

Related: The Price Of Criticizing The State Of Israel

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobbying group that assisted in the bill’s drafting, has explicitly stated that they aim to combat so-called “delegitimization of Israel,” particularly in international spaces such as the United Nations.

Israel’s bill looks to bury the actions of the Israeli government which combat BDS supporters.

“One of the principles for success is keeping our methods of action secret… Since most of the ministry’s actions are not of the ministry, but through bodies around the world who do not want to expose their connection with the state,” Israeli Strategic Affairs Minister, Gilad Erdan said according to Ma’an News Agency.

Erdan, who is from the right-wing Likud party, is in charge of combatting the BDS movement.

Founded 12 years ago, the BDS movement was inspired by both the South African anti-apartheid movement and the U.S. Civil Rights movement. It calls for a worldwide movement to ban Israeli products and raise pressure against Israel to end the illegal occupation and system of institutionalized racial discrimination, which the U.N. has recognized meets the definition of an apartheid system.

© teleSUR
 

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Yes, it could be the top of a very slippery slope. However, I am not worried (yet).
From Congress.gov---
The bill prohibits U.S. persons engaged in interstate or foreign commerce from:

  • requesting the imposition of any boycott by a foreign country against a country which is friendly to the United States; or
  • supporting any boycott fostered or imposed by an international organization, or requesting imposition of any such boycott, against Israel. And from Govtrack.us----
    Prognosis:

    8% chance of being enacted according to Skopos Labs



 

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Here is a letter regarding what you're all talking about. Feel free to not let it affect your uninformed opinions in the slightest.

Setting the Record Straight: Nothing in the Israel Anti-Boycott Act restricts constitutionally-protected free speech

medium.com/setting-the-record-straight-nothing-in-the-the-israel-anti-boycott-act-restricts-constitutionally-13bfa7428d8
July 20, 2017

Mr. Faiz Shakir

National Political Director

American Civil Liberties Union

915 15th Street NW

Washington, DC 20005

Dear Director Shakir:

We write in response to your letter regarding the Israel Anti-Boycott Act. Our offices have a long history of defending the civil rights of all Americans, including their right to constitutionally-protected free speech. Because of that history, and because we would not support legislation that infringed on those rights, we welcome the opportunity to correct some fundamental misunderstandings about the bill.

We cannot state this strongly enough: the bill does not “punish U.S. persons based solely on their expressed political beliefs.” Nothing in the bill restricts constitutionally-protected free speech or limits criticism of Israel or its policies. Instead, it is narrowly targeted at commercial activity and is based on current law that has been constitutionally upheld.

In particular, as you know, Congress has the authority to put limits on international commercial conduct. Pursuant to this authority, Congress amended the Export Administration Act (EAA) in 1977 to prohibit U.S. persons from complying with unauthorized foreign boycotts — specifically, the Arab League Boycott of Israel — and authorized penalties against violations. Courts have consistently upheld the Arab League Boycott provisions of the EAA.

The bill makes one small but important change in current law. The EAA currently prohibits U.S. persons from complying with unsanctioned foreign boycotts imposed by foreign countries. The new legislation would extend this prohibition to unsanctioned foreign boycotts imposed by international governmental organizations such as United Nations agencies or the European Union. For example, if the United Nations Human Rights Council requests information from an American company about its business dealings in Israel or Israeli-controlled territories as part of an effort to compile a blacklist of companies doing business with Israel, the bill would prohibit the company from responding.

Because of the breadth of concerns raised in your letter, it may also be helpful to note conduct that the bill does not address.

The bill does not prevent U.S. companies and individuals from expressing their points of view, speaking in favor of boycott, divestment, or sanctions (BDS) activities, engaging in boycott activity of their own accord, or being critical of Israel. Individuals who “actively avoid purchasing goods and services” because of their own political viewpoint would not be subject to the bill. Similarly, the bill does not regulate civil society organizations who are critical of Israeli policies or prevent them from speaking in favor of BDS. The legislation does not encourage or compel persons to do business with Israel, nor does it punish individuals or companies from refusing to do business with Israel based on their own political beliefs, for “purely pragmatic reasons,” or for no reason stated at all. Any suggestion that this bill creates potential criminal or civil liability for these actions is false.

We also note that you referenced the Export-Import Bank Act in your letter, and implied that the Export-Import Bank Act penalizes U.S. persons for complying with unsanctioned foreign boycotts. This is not correct. The Export-Import Bank changes in our bill apply to the charter of the Export-Import Bank and the policy considerations the Bank must take into account when evaluating certain financial or credit applications.

We believe we have — and have long held — similar goals and beliefs when it comes to First Amendment protections. Consistent with those goals and beliefs, this bill does not limit the rights of American citizens or organizations to express their views on Israeli or American foreign policy. Nor does it introduce any core legal principles that have not already been upheld in court. We welcome a healthy dialogue with you and any other interested parties about the purpose and importance of our legislation, and sincerely hope that this letter has addressed your concerns.

Sincerely,

Benjamin L. Cardin

Rob Portman

cc: Ms. Susan N. Herman, President, American Civil Liberties Union

https://www.cardin.senate.gov/download/aclu-israel-anti-boycott
 

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Abbas: Shut Up or I will Arrest You!
gatestoneinstitute.org/10684/palestinian-cyber-crime-law

A new Palestinian law combating information technology (IT) crimes has sparked a wave of protests from Palestinian journalists and human rights organizations.

The controversial Cyber Crime Law, signed by Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas on July 11, permits the imprisonment of Palestinians for "liking" or sharing published material on the internet.

Critics say the law paves the way for the emergence of a "police state" in PA-controlled territories in the West Bank. They also argue that the law aims to silence criticism of Abbas and the PA leadership.

The new law comes on the heels of the PA's recent decision to block more than 20 Palestinian websites accused of publishing comments and articles critical of the PA leadership.

The law was approved by Abbas himself, without review by the Palestinian parliament, known as the Palestinian Legislative Council (PLC). The PLC has been paralyzed for the past decade, as a result of the power struggle between Abbas's PA and Hamas -- the Islamist movement that controls the Gaza Strip.

In the absence of parliamentary life, Abbas and his senior officials and advisors have felt free to pass their own laws to serve their interests and promote their personal and political agendas.

In the view of Palestinian journalists and human rights advocates, the new Cyber Crime Law will further restrict freedom of expression, especially on social media, which will now be closely monitored by the PA security forces. They say that the law makes a mockery of the PA leadership's motto that the "sky is the limit when it comes to freedom of expression."

The absence of a free and independent media in the PA-controlled territories has prompted many Palestinian journalists, bloggers and political activists to resort to Facebook and Twitter. There, they express their opinions, air their grievances, and discuss taboo issues -- such as financial and administrative corruption among the top brass of the Palestinian Authority leadership.

The new law legalizes what has long been happening in the PA-controlled territories, however. PA security forces have long targeted Palestinians who post critical and controversial comments on social media.

Hardly a week passes without two or three Palestinians arrested or summoned for interrogation by the PA security forces regarding a Facebook or Twitter posting or comment. Many Palestinians have been taken into custody for "liking" or sharing a post, article or photo that was deemed offensive to Abbas or a senior PA official.

Yet, the Cyber Crime Law is indeed a watershed in repression: prior to it, no law existed that prohibited Palestinians from expressing their views on social media platforms.

Now, anyone who commits the offense of establishing a website with the intent of disseminating news that could "undermine the safety of the state or its internal or external security" is liable to a prison sentence and fine. The law also aims to punish anyone who promotes such news by "liking" or sharing it.

Palestinian journalists identify themselves as the real targets of the Cyber Crime Law. One journalist in Ramallah remarked:

"What is laughable is that this law carries penalties that are tougher than those imposed on thieves and sex offenders. This is a law with a purely political goal, although it has some positive aspects such as preventing extortion, fraud and impersonation on social media. But the law, in its present form, is designed to limit the freedom of the media and punish people for simple matters."

Jihad Barakat, a Palestinian journalist who was recently arrested by the Palestinian Authority security forces for filming the motorcade of PA Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah while it was passing through an Israeli military checkpoint, expressed outrage over the new law. He too said that the law was aimed at curbing freedom of expression and intimidating critics of the PA.

"This is a dangerous law," Barakat complained. "The law should conform with public freedoms and not be used to curb them." Barakat later was charged with "begging and loitering in a public place in suspicious circumstances." He was arrested because his filming of the PA prime minister at the checkpoint was considered embarrassing and offensive.

Palestinian journalists and human rights activists point out that the law contains ambiguous references, such as the "undermining or endangering of the safety of the state."

Journalist Shatha Hammad said that she and her colleagues were not sure what this phrase actually means.

"As journalists, we are confused," she said. "We don't know what type of news or postings which are considered -- according to this law -- a threat to the security of the state." She also pointed out that the new law comes amid a continued crackdown by the PA on Palestinian journalists and activists over their Facebook postings.

Alarmed by the new law, several Palestinian journalists and writers said it paves the way for the emergence of a repressive regime whose goal is to suppress public freedoms and violate the privacy of people.

"This law is aimed at providing the Palestinian Authority with a legal cover to suppress the voices of its opponents," explainedPalestinian writer Ahmed Al-Najjar.

"In this way, the PA can arrest any journalist or ordinary citizen for publishing an article or posting something on social media that is deemed harmful to the security of the state. This is a bleak scenario that makes it clear that we are facing a repressive police system. This dangerous law drives the final nail in the coffin of public freedoms."

The Ramallah-based Palestinian human rights organization Al-Haq joined the chorus of critics of the new law restricting freedom of expression. "The law was issued by President Abbas without being presented to the public," the organization said. "It was issued in a very secretive manner."

Al-Haq also noted that the PA leadership turned down requests and appeals by Palestinian groups and individuals to receive copies of the new law before it was passed. The organization went on to denounce the law as a "Sword of Damocles" over the head of Palestinian journalists.

The Cyber Crime Law showcases the fact that the Palestinian Authority regime is being run as a one-man show.

This latest dictatorial move in the PA-controlled territories might also serve to remind the international community about the current readiness of the Palestinian leadership for statehood, and what such statehood would look like. In its current incarnation, that state would fit in just fine with its brutal Arab neighbors.
 

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Came in here to post "In before Thunderian tries to play around the issue and perform damage control" but I was too late.

Hypocrites the lot of these Satan worshipers. They want to criminalize actions like this but they then go and put sanctions on places like Russia, Iran, and other various "bad" countries. Fucking Zionists want to control every aspect of your life.
 
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