COVID-19, DOCTORS SPEAK OUT, W.H.O./GREAT RESET/4IR, 5G, DIGITAL ID, VACCINE, FOOD SUPPLY, TRACKING & TRACING...

[Orwell's mentor]

You guys are hilarious. Unless you swallow word for word, the teachings of the latest cult leader, you are A SHILL !! LOL Is that how it works now ?

This guy has no background studying infectious diseases and he is being promoted by a fraud who once claimed he was in contact with the good inter dimensional beings.

You realize that Kaufman was first promoted by a flat earthers as well.

You're a hoot too! You've brought nothing to this thread but division and dumbed down the debate, which is why I also suspect you're a shill. It's easily understandable to see why you were banned from the David Icke forums with what you bring here to the VC ones, which doesn't seem like much.

 

[Awoken2]

...and I won't even mention the fact that he thinks a crisis actor is some type of health and safety role....

.....oops, just mentioned it

 

[Frank Badfinger]

Professor Knut Wittkowski was head of The Rockefeller University's Department of Biostatistics, Epidemiology, and Research Design for 20 years.

He says that social distancing and lockdown is the absolutely worst way to deal with an airborne respiratory virus.

Further, he offers data to show that China and South Korea had already reached their peak number of cases when they instituted their containment measures. In other words, nature had already achieved, or nearly achieved, herd immunity.
Bitchute Link

Bitchute

BitChute is a video service that prioritizes creators and champions users' freedoms and privacy.

www.bitchute.com

 

[vancityeagle]

You're a hoot too! You've brought nothing to this thread but division and dumbed down the debate, which is why I also suspect you're a shill. It's easily understandable to see why you were banned from the David Icke forums with what you bring here to the VC ones, which doesn't seem like much.

Yeah it's always those who complain they are being censored and claim to fight for freedom and truth who are the first to favor censorship when it suits them. Why am I not surprised.

The truth is you are no different than the authorities who want you to take the MSM at face value and crush dissenting voices.

That is the sad truth which you just cannot see.

As for the DIF, that place has turned into a giant turdbowl filled with Qanon fanatics and 5G dupes. Really it's a badge of honor to be banned from such a place.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

“So far, no transmission of the virus in supermarkets, restaurants or hairdressers has been proved.”

RTL Today joined a press conference of virologist Hendrik Streeck on Tuesday and here we provide a recap of his key statements.


Mr Streeck is a professor for virology and the director of the Institute of virology and HIV Research at the University Bonn. He explained the methodology of his new study in Heinsberg, the “epicentre” of Germany’s COVID-19 outbreak, and talked about potential plans for a country to move forward gradually in getting back to a “normal” life.

During recent weeks, his team completed substantial research conducted through surveys and investigations in homes across the Heinsberg region - where more than 1,400 confirmed cases had been reported. Heinsberg has an approximate population of 250,000 inhabitants and has confirmed 46 coronavirus-related deaths.

These research findings have already provided some indication on how the virus works, as Streeck clarified:

“There is no significant risk of catching the disease when you go shopping. Severe outbreaks of the infection were always a result of people being closer together over a longer period of time, for example the après- ski parties in Ischgl, Austria.” He could also not find any evidence of ‘living’ viruses on surfaces. “When we took samples from door handles, phones or toilets it has not been possible to cultivate the virus in the laboratory on the basis of these swabs….”

Leading German virologist: “So far, no transmission of the virus in supermarkets, restaurants or hairdressers has been proved.”

RTL Today joined a press conference of virologist Hendrik Streeck on Tuesday and here we provide a recap of his key statements.

today.rtl.lu

 

[rainerann]

Enough of your lies.

This is the twitter post that got things started.
From CBS affiliate KX News in Bismark, ND

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1247680994821509121

I think that you need to work on getting references to match the argument that you are making. You basically posted an irrelevant clip to the argument that Fox news was not the primary source for the claim that hospitals have an incentive to claim people as covid because they are receiving a reimbursement amount that is padded to provide incentive.

This clip never mentions this point. It is completely useless in doing anything other than creating the appearance that you are posting a counterargument. The clip discusses identifying covid patients on death certificates. What does that have to do with bogus claims presented on Fox intended to stir the pot by suggesting to people who don't know better that there is a financial incentive to claiming a patient has covid?

You are welcome to try to make a better argument to support your belief that this is all overblown. I would welcome something more substantial but as a healthcare worker with some experience and familiarity with hospital billing, you are not doing yourself any favors by repeating a claim that I know based on experience is false. There is no financial incentive in taking covid patients no matter where you are in the country. Even in New York, they are losing millions of dollars having ambulatory surgery centers shut down for this.

It is an absurd claim to make and it demonstrates a sort of tunnel vision to your argument that makes the information you are presenting no more beneficial than mainstream media. If you want to post something in response that actually helps your argument, you could try to find an instance that demonstrates some location that appears to be financially benefiting. Good luck with that though considering the direction this line of reasoning is leaning is that it was false and misleading to begin with based on the numerous articles showing that healthcare workers are being laid off and that most hospitals, even in New York, are looking to the government to supplement the money they are losing right now.

Making an argument is fine. Hanging on to a dead argument is not.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Yeah it's always those who complain they are being censored and claim to fight for freedom and truth who are the first to favor censorship when it suits them. Why am I not surprised.

The truth is you are no different than the authorities who want you to take the MSM at face value and crush dissenting voices.

That is the sad truth which you just cannot see.

As for the DIF, that place has turned into a giant turdbowl filled with Qanon fanatics and 5G dupes. Really it's a badge of honor to be banned from such a place.

Lol, think what you want as you've just arrived on here and you don't know a thing about me or what I believe. As I said, I don't find you credible in any way so continue with your juvenile and ego-shilled posts. I'm not really interested in anything you have to say.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

What does that have to do with bogus claims presented on Fox intended to stir the pot by suggesting to people who don't know better that there is a financial incentive to claiming a patient has covid?

Bogus claims?
Did you miss the NY times story? Why do I have to post again?
3,700 presumed cases added to death toll

N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count (Published 2020)

The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.

www.nytimes.com

Dr.Jensen speaks on facebook (mirrored) as Facebook version won't play...hmmm?
Senator Scott Jensen(MN): Conspiracy & Corruption in Fauci/Gates/CDC,Hospital/Medical System,Corona

There is no financial incentive in taking covid patients no matter where you are in the country. Even in New York, they are losing millions of dollars having ambulatory surgery centers shut down for this.

I'll take Dr.Jensen's word, over yours shill.

based on the numerous articles showing that healthcare workers are being laid off and that most hospitals, even in New York, are looking to the government to supplement the money they are losing right now.

The US government just gave 100 Billion dollars to Hospitals

Congress gives hospitals $100B they demanded in coronavirus package

The funding was a major sticking point and amounts to a big win for hospitals, who warn the pandemic could be a financial disaster for the industry.

www.politico.com

You and others posting about this don't actually care or have any interest in learning what the healthcare actually costs or how this reimbursement compares to the reimbursement for anything else.

Sad straw man argument. Just stop your nonsense.

You are a shill. Don't bother replying as I am done with your long winded drivel, go play games in the other thread.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count

The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.

N.Y.C. Death Toll Soars Past 10,000 in Revised Virus Count (Published 2020)

The city has added more than 3,700 additional people who were presumed to have died of the coronavirus but had never tested positive.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Frank Badfinger]

Hospitals get 100 Billion in stimulus money.

Here's what's in the $2 trillion stimulus package — and what's next

This gargantuan bill won’t make it to President Donald Trump’s desk without some last-minute political angst.

www.politico.com

 

[rainerann]

The US government just gave 100 Billion dollars to Hospitals

Congress gives hospitals $100B they demanded in coronavirus package

The funding was a major sticking point and amounts to a big win for hospitals, who warn the pandemic could be a financial disaster for the industry.

www.politico.com

Exactly, like I said. There is more evidence that hospitals are losing money than there is evidence to support the claim that they are being financially incentivized to claim covid patients. You have just proved my point. In future, it would be better to refrain from using the Fox news clip about reimbursement.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

In future, it would be better to refrain from using the Fox news clip about reimbursement.

Is that a threat?

 

[Frank Badfinger]

As he is careful to point out, Professor Michael Levitt is not an epidemiologist. He’s Professor of Structural Biology at the Stanford School of Medicine, and winner of the 2013 Nobel Prize for Chemistry for “the development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems.”
With a purely statistical perspective, he has been playing close attention to the Covid-19 pandemic since January, when most of us were not even aware of it. He first spoke out in early February, when through analysing the numbers of cases and deaths in Hubei province he predicted with remarkable accuracy that the epidemic in that province would top out at around 3,250 deaths.

In this interview with Freddie Sayers, Executive Editor of UnHerd, Professor Levitt explains why he thinks indiscriminate lockdown measures as “a huge mistake,” and advocates a “smart lockdown” policy, focused on more effective measures, focused on protecting elderly people.

 

[rainerann]

Is that a threat?

Of course not. That is a paranoid and ridiculous conclusion. I was simply forming a conclusion to our discussion on the subject of the Fox news clip that has clearly reached a conclusion that you supported by posting an article showing that the hospitals are losing a lot of money in reality. So comments about how much the hospital makes when a patient is on a ventilator are not based in any kind of reality that would encourage anyone to continue on with the way things are simply as a way of retaining this for a longer period of time.

I don't know, I always sort of thought coming here and posting provided the benefit of hearing first-hand accounts in relation to a subject. I have some first-hand experience with the subject of hospital billing. It costs a lot to run a hospital in the US for one very significant reason being how much nurses are paid in this country. The US is still able to recruit a good number of nurses from other countries simply based on the fact that nurses make very good money by comparison. That may not always be true going forward, but it has been true up to this point.

So for me it is just common sense to make some mental calculations on how much this actually would cost and then use this experience to share how this would not be a substantial incentive for the healthcare community to promote this whole thing as a way of increasing profits. That is all I'm saying and your article and others are supporting that this is true.

Simply a conversation with a real person who is not a shill. I'm just a regular person applying personal experience to a shared experience.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

Dr. Ioannidis on Results of Coronavirus Studies

 

[thursdayafternoon]

They are so full of virtue signaling crap. These are the same people who, due to their wealth and status, have not been inconvenienced much by the pandemic. Life for them will continue pretty normally no matter what.

I get the feeling they are secetly thrilled by the pandemic and subsequent lockdown of the ignorant cattle class (us).

Many of them are goyim. In megacities/mega animal farms (Agenda 21), they will be cattles equally with everyone.

 

[Awoken2]

I think the flat earth boys raise a valid point here.....these people flattened their curve a looong time ago.

 

[Awoken2]

I like to spend at.least an hour a day reading through the comments section of videos like this one.

It's here you find gems like....more people have died investigating Hilary Clinton than have died from Coronavirus.

*warning* watching this video will result in you being bounced onto a pro Trump algorithm.

 

[thursdayafternoon]

Swedish Model: Deaths From COVID-19 Will Be Far Fewer Than Deaths Caused by Ruined Economy – Prof

Unlike its European neighbours Sweden has not opted for a strict COVID lockdown: and although all public gatherings of more than 50 people are banned and people are largely encouraged to stay home, restaurants and bars are open and...

sputniknews.com

"It's so important to understand that the deaths of COVID-19 will be far less than the deaths caused by societal lockdown when the economy is ruined. Why? Because of unemployment and all the social problems with it. A bad economy will hurt and kill people in the future", the academic argues.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

Cop reminds fellow officers they have no right to trample on the rights of citizens