Cloning: Fact or Fiction?

manama

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Human cloning is fiction to me until I actually see it. I can't decipher the technology because you can NOT make an adult clone, just a baby who would look like someone else due to similar genomes. Even then its a genetically engineered to look alike but is a completely different person.
But artificial wombs are not something we have been able to replicate yet. Even animal cloning has been done using surrogates. And real life cloning will never be like the ones in the movies.
 

Mr.Anderson

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I believe that they are desesperate about cloning. But what good would a clone do without the original soul inside it? It's somewhat common knowledge that the wizards of yore would go trough great lenghts to extend their lifetime because there is nothing to them beyond the grave, hence why singularity is so importante to to them but you get a clone and then what? One thing is to transfer their mind, conscience or wathever but unless you can preserve your soul bound to this eartly realm them they still have a long walk.
 

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I guess I have to ask... what would be the purpose?

A GET OUT type situation is more concerning
Motivation could be a number of things. I think they are pursuing it because they want to see if they can do it. Scientists often do things that either don't have any real value or even a negative value all in the name of science. Because science itself is generally amoral. They don't set out to do evil, necessarily (though some times they do -- ie, weapons of mass destruction and biological warfare), but they think that discovering scientific knowledge justifies whatever means they have to use to obtain it. They have experimented on people without their knowledge on many, many occasions -- so it wouldn't surprise me that they would attempt to clone just to figure out how to do it. They don't think they need to worry about how something will be used. That is for other people to work out after they've achieved it.

At the moment, cloning probably only offers the benefit of spare body parts. There was even a movie about that (The Island). There is always the possibility that they are looking to breed a class of people for a certain function. Add gene splicing and cloning together, you might be able to breed a class of people who are temperamentally born to be happy as a menial worker. Or be an elite soldier who doesn't feel fear in the face of danger. Although, to be honest, AI is probably a better bet for that than clones.

I have no doubt at all that they are working on it. And no doubt that the uber wealthy would love the idea of raising up a literal mini-me -- even if that is the only benefit. I just don't know if they have already achieved that or if they are still light years away from making it a reality. But, it would be naive to think that there isn't a military installation somewhere with a lab that is working on that at this very moment. And not just the US -- China, Russia and others are probably all pursuing it because they think everyone else is doing it.
 

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Motivation could be a number of things. I think they are pursuing it because they want to see if they can do it. Scientists often do things that either don't have any real value or even a negative value all in the name of science. Because science itself is generally amoral. They don't set out to do evil, necessarily (though some times they do -- ie, weapons of mass destruction and biological warfare), but they think that discovering scientific knowledge justifies whatever means they have to use to obtain it. They have experimented on people without their knowledge on many, many occasions -- so it wouldn't surprise me that they would attempt to clone just to figure out how to do it. They don't think they need to worry about how something will be used. That is for other people to work out after they've achieved it.

At the moment, cloning probably only offers the benefit of spare body parts. There was even a movie about that (The Island). There is always the possibility that they are looking to breed a class of people for a certain function. Add gene splicing and cloning together, you might be able to breed a class of people who are temperamentally born to be happy as a menial worker. Or be an elite soldier who doesn't feel fear in the face of danger. Although, to be honest, AI is probably a better bet for that than clones.

I have no doubt at all that they are working on it. And no doubt that the uber wealthy would love the idea of raising up a literal mini-me -- even if that is the only benefit. I just don't know if they have already achieved that or if they are still light years away from making it a reality. But, it would be naive to think that there isn't a military installation somewhere with a lab that is working on that at this very moment. And not just the US -- China, Russia and others are probably all pursuing it because they think everyone else is doing it.
Acquiring military lackeys could be much easier done though. And much cheaper. Menial workers again much easier and cheaply done by other means...

And even though science might be interested just for the challenge of it... someone still has to fund it. Science doesn’t fund itself.

I could see some narcissist funding how to transfer consciousness but I just don’t see what the motivation behind a clone would be.
 

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I don't believe everything I hear just because someone's saying it.
Neither do I, my friend! I add it to the proverbial vault, then I open the door and see how much of the same BS falls out. Then I start to question it.

As humans that have been indoctrinated into the world that was created for us, we need to start questioning things we're NOT hearing.
 
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~JC~

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I guess I have to ask... what would be the purpose?

A GET OUT type situation is more concerning
I think the purpose is for profit (esp. if you consider high paid celebrities that can be at many places at once), perversion, and to further perfect humans that others can control for all of the above. This sounds crazy AF, but we didn't make this sht up.
 
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