seekinheart
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I wanted to bring something up and that is the very nature of suffering in life and how I am really struggling with the idea of a good God. Now I have always heard this argument but it's clear I have never really suffered enough.
As much as I understand the concepts. For instance the paradox of. Live a good life, but do not value ur life here on earth. Look to the next life. But in the same breath is this life is bad. Do not moan or groan. Personally I have become confused on what or who God is.
I don't know if I'm being punished or being saved. I'm supposed to feel grateful for tragedy in life or at least resigned which is counterintuitive. I struggle to find a meaning in life when God makes himself almost impossible to detect in the journey of my life in a sense of the roadmap Is not your typical get saved and become okay.
I'm reminded of the man who wrote it is well with my soul - Horatio, but you know as much as I want it to be well with my soul that sentiment just doesn't cut it.
Then I look at some of the fates that have befallen people particularly rare diseases such as fatal familial insomnia, crutzefeld Jakob disease. And see immense suffering inflicted upon someone to the degree that I do not see a reason.
A big side of me just doesnt get it.
The wrath of God poured out on the cross, I just don't get it. Why do we need to be tortured in an eternity to satisfy Gods wrath on our sin. Why not obliterate it ?
I have accepted some of these things on faith without fully agreeing or understanding at times. Particularly when I am faced with my own suffering and my own circumstances and how unfailingly ironic the affliction has been. To the point that I'm surprised I do not go around living life in reverse in hopes of the opposite happening.
If God doesn't move in ur life and grant u peace or if he doesn't resolve whatever u have going In and instead wether it's ur fault or not further complexes issues u came to him to resolve for.
Could one be pushed too far to the point where belief in God has been made almost impossible. Can God push us too far and if so why?
Alot of the issues I feel Christians find hard to rectify are much easier to muse on and assert from a Christian view aslong as they are not actually happening.
I post this thread out of angst and frustration. And on a bit of a merry go round with faith. I don't see the plan, I mean I don't see the good, I don't see how the being allowing this CAN be good. And when I look at others suffering in this life either it means something or it doesnt this life and I just can't fully reconcile it right now and that's not to say I won't someday because without God my life feels even emptier but there's a certain satisfaction In the rebellion given that it intuitively what is happening and why just doesn't feel right.
As much as I understand the concepts. For instance the paradox of. Live a good life, but do not value ur life here on earth. Look to the next life. But in the same breath is this life is bad. Do not moan or groan. Personally I have become confused on what or who God is.
I don't know if I'm being punished or being saved. I'm supposed to feel grateful for tragedy in life or at least resigned which is counterintuitive. I struggle to find a meaning in life when God makes himself almost impossible to detect in the journey of my life in a sense of the roadmap Is not your typical get saved and become okay.
I'm reminded of the man who wrote it is well with my soul - Horatio, but you know as much as I want it to be well with my soul that sentiment just doesn't cut it.
Then I look at some of the fates that have befallen people particularly rare diseases such as fatal familial insomnia, crutzefeld Jakob disease. And see immense suffering inflicted upon someone to the degree that I do not see a reason.
A big side of me just doesnt get it.
The wrath of God poured out on the cross, I just don't get it. Why do we need to be tortured in an eternity to satisfy Gods wrath on our sin. Why not obliterate it ?
I have accepted some of these things on faith without fully agreeing or understanding at times. Particularly when I am faced with my own suffering and my own circumstances and how unfailingly ironic the affliction has been. To the point that I'm surprised I do not go around living life in reverse in hopes of the opposite happening.
If God doesn't move in ur life and grant u peace or if he doesn't resolve whatever u have going In and instead wether it's ur fault or not further complexes issues u came to him to resolve for.
Could one be pushed too far to the point where belief in God has been made almost impossible. Can God push us too far and if so why?
Alot of the issues I feel Christians find hard to rectify are much easier to muse on and assert from a Christian view aslong as they are not actually happening.
I post this thread out of angst and frustration. And on a bit of a merry go round with faith. I don't see the plan, I mean I don't see the good, I don't see how the being allowing this CAN be good. And when I look at others suffering in this life either it means something or it doesnt this life and I just can't fully reconcile it right now and that's not to say I won't someday because without God my life feels even emptier but there's a certain satisfaction In the rebellion given that it intuitively what is happening and why just doesn't feel right.