BTS discussion thread

Lily-Blue · Apr 22, 2020

Amber_O said:
Agree. & Not only that, but I hope this thread doesn’t go in the direction of useless gossip, like whose dating who? Who cares. there are some really smart, thought provoking posts in this thread. Some girl making eye contact with Tea at a concert isn’t one of them. Sorry not sorry

It all matters and it's all interesting.

lauren_xox · Apr 22, 2020

Anthony's call said:
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So bts followed this dude right?

Well, this dude is mutuals with the girl I suspect to be Jk Girlfriend, Her name is Ashley Marie she's from UK , she is a Gamer ( aha a gamer ????) And has a YouTube Channel.

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Ashley Marie follows him Too.
Here's her social medias Links :
Twitter :

AshleyMarie (@AshleeeyMaarie) on Twitter

Instagram:

Ashley Marie 애슐리 마리 (@ashleymarie) • Instagram photos and videos

548K Followers, 1,417 Following, 2,290 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Ashley Marie 애슐리 마리 (@ashleymarie)

www.instagram.com

YouTube:

마리TV

Hey there! Welcome to my channel, a magical and wonderful place where I post videos of me playing games and failing at them. All for your entertainment. Buis...

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She is very familiar with Korean culture and has been to Korea this summer ! And has met with the tattoo parlor Jungkook had a scandal with !!! She is friends with the girl Jungkook has been rumored to date !!!!
Jungkook this summer went to an auberge in Geoju island he left his signature there, however nobody knows with who he was there !!!
But !!! In bighit denying statement they said Jk had been there with his friends from the tattoo parlor which is bullshit because , the pictures leaked where all taken in Seoul debunked by koreans, which made the whole statement false !!!
Now the foreigner girl has been to the same tattoo parlor !! I think bighit deliberately talked about geoju in case somebody took pictures of them there!!! Jk and his alleged gf , and they used the tattoo girl as a cover up , seems like they offered money to the tattoo parlor to be the scapegoat however it fired back and the tattoo parlor wanted more money, since Lee Mijoo the girl linked with Jk has been bullied and received so much hate to protect Jk real girlfriend !!!

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Do you freaking know where this is ????? This is the freaking place BTS went to , to film summer package !!!

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And the biggest clue of them all ???

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The poor girl JK was falsely rumored to date to hide is real FOREIGNER GF

Sometime in November the tattoo shop after bighit refused to pay them more money posted a pic of Jk hand tattoo along the caption "remember bro"
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Oh my my my ~~~~~~

P.S: why did Ashley delete her post about Tattoo rennis aha !!

dude did we just... solve this all on the VC forum? if this is ends up being real better get ready to go on the run if Bighit decides to sue us lmao

RaquelCF · Apr 22, 2020

boti said:
I've become a member about two months ago and before posting my first entry, I took the time to read every single post, out of the 25,683 (now, after many being deleted) posts made spanned over 1285 pages.
Half of it is very farfetched, non related, gossip, theories, rumors. That's the whole idea of it. Everything we write on forums, comment about people, it's gossiping.

I did not interrupted a discussion, nor did I try to dubiously shut it down, just because I deemed to find it uninteresting.

As per the saying - show me who your friends are and I'll tell you who you are, who the members are personally engaging with, it's probably the most important thing about them/their life/personality.
We are talking about BTS, a group who's celebrity and success is based on the notion that they have no personal life, no personal feelings toward any other female except an "army" of teenage girls. The very own Taehyung shouted out - We only love you, you belong to us. Yoongi said - keep your 4th finger free, that's for us.

If I were a fan buying merchandise, spending every penny I got to "serve" them believing that I have found somebody who's entire love and attention goes solely to me, I would be very mad to find out that they didn't kept their "promise" - for 7 years claiming to have only love "us" and nobody else. I would be justified to feel betrayed. And it is some sort of betrayal.
Imagine liking a guy, who's taking advantage of you without you noticing. Little things. Like in school you buy a sandwich for him, or you make him gifts and he keeps saying how he only has love for you but for some reason he cannot be with anybody together at this moment. Next day he starts a relationship with the new girl in class.

It's the same principle. I don't directly blame those young girls for having the impulse to bash and attack girls like the tattoo Jungkook girl or naked Rachael mistress. Those girls have put themselves intentionally in that position to get attention.
Being surprised or even shocked if they see things like the ones mentioned. It's simply the opposite of what the band has been claiming and preached for years.
From a legal and psychological aspect, the members are the guilty party for having built their success upon a fantasy they still keep present.
If their success was built on the quality of their work, nobody would care if they are even married.
Jungkook went on to apologize and crying for his "behavior" . Guy felt guilt for holding a girl, for letting "army" down. That's how much he is willing to sell from his soul, that he goes on and cries saying he's sorry. Scripted or not, he said it.

There is always a certain amount of disappointment, even in adult women, if you find out that some famous hot shot actor or musician is in a relationship with a girl. It's not logic, it's not real, it's not that you really believe you could be together with the image of somebody who is famous and who you like, but it's simply a reaction.

Jared Leto (the full program like Leonardo di Caprio, promoting leftist democratic agenda, p***philia, promiscuity, part of the illuminati masonic Hollywood ), an almost 50 y old men, who has build a career since his 20s for being hot and cute, dating all models as young as 16, even 14, has been for almost 30 years the obsession of a lot of girl fans, his concerts are filled with women, many of them married, with children, his age. Those same adult women are attacking every now and then the "models" he is "dating" not for the age gasp, but just because....it disturbs their fantasy. That's how this thing works in the advantage of males. All you need in entertainment it's a cute dude - success is guaranteed.

It worked out better for Justin Bieber, because he never hided his relationship with Selena Gomez. They went out publicly from the beginning, so fans had to accept the situation and get accustomed to it. Surprise, surprise. Did it worked out? Of course. Would he have had more success if he would have gone the same route like BTS? For sure! But it was obviously for him that it's not worth harming, disrespecting or lying about the person he is inlove with. If there is one thing I have respect for Justin Bieber, is for at least not selling a bullshit like BTS of image with no girlfriend, or loving someone else.
That's where the problem is and why it's important to point out, that things aren't what they claim to be.

It's the sick hiding of this entire personal life that's harmful, but works out for their advantage.

Deep down, those girls know that the notion of them really only having love feelings for millions of fans they've never met or briefly met, is somehow not making sense. I believe that their reaction sometimes aggressive by going after those girls is due of rage because the band/company/ Bang Si-Hyuk are using the "we don't love anybody else" card. I think deep down, they know it's not realistically.

When you have the feeling someone for whom you have exuberant feelings is taking advantage of you and lying on top of that, doesn't make you more angry?

Out of the almost 26,000 postings, there have been maybe less than 5 regarding to this subject ! That's actually not enough.

It exposed Taehyung taking gifts from a rich fan, in exchange for engaging with her personally, showing his character and how they sell themselves, why they wouldn't want to let go of a lifestyle where they are constantly being gifted by fans all over the world the most expensive stuff;
it exposed Jungkook most likely having had something going on with at least on of the tattoo girls, raising the question on how much is BigHit willing to pay and how further are they willing to go and destroy someone personally and professionally (that store had to shut down for a while) just for keeping the image of Jungkook being "single";
It exposed Taehyung getting a naked instagram model access to their events and Jungkook knowing the naked girl. Taehyung was acting like a porn star on camera licking and biting his lips while looking at the Rachel K starr naked instagram "model" for fee. It was at the same time while he was going to shows claiming like an idiot "I'm a good boy" and vaping jool . Those girls don't look like they come from the best of environments. To express myself in a decent way.
On top of that - you don't get backstage and having Taehyung weaving and bitting his lips to you, with no story behind. People who are having backstage passes, reserved seats, wearing the own clothes of a certain member and taking a PICTURE of it, that's not random. That's hooking up in return for her doing those things and being allowed by BigHit to be present at those events.
BitHit wouldn't even let doctors hired by the event organizer to be NEAR them.

I am welcoming anyone who has material like this. I was not aware about it and it added a new puzzle piece to the BTS story.

It's not just interesting, it's the domino stone that will clash everything down.
From building the image of "cute babies, innocent, loving nobody but ARMY" , implying them being homosexual, constantly engaging in homosexual behavior and becoming the homosexual and pedophiliac propaganda tool, to the image of boys with questionable character engaging on live camera in behavior alluding to sexual content hooking up with naked instagram models.

Of course it's important to find out about gossip if they order naked instagram models to their shows. Adds up to the Illuminati sex orgies.

You made some really awesome points.

The company/the members are to blame to be honest with how attached the fandom are to them. They constantly say things to feed into the delusion which is very harmful.. especially to young girls. Saying things like you stated, also when they were asked once where are your girlfriends?? And RM responded with “army are our girlfriends” or in a Vlive when someone asked tae “who do you like right now?” And he responded “I like army”.
Tbh I don’t blame girls for getting jealous if they eventually will announce one of them is dating someone. Of course there’s always people who take things too far which is NOT OKAY (talking about death threats etc..) I’m in my 20s and I don’t even like the idea of some of the members I like dating which is so messed up, but it goes to show that what the guys say to again, like I said, feed into this delusion of fantasy of being with them is NOT okay.

Creating this image from the beginning that they’re never dating or with anyone ahhh.....not smart.

AndrAt3A · Apr 22, 2020

Found this tweet lol

muchim · Apr 22, 2020

Anthony's call said:
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Dark selfie challenge, which means no filter no edit.
Now, I realise their pictures are so heavily edited that they look like other people.
They're very average looking especially V who somehow looks ethereal in pictures.

I understand why most people who met BTS in person were amazed by J-Hope visuals.

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Another thing that irritates me , yes Jungkook works out but he's still slim and more on the skinny side ? Why'd they always exaggerate his physic ??? They kept pushing this muscle bunny idea since 2016 , If you hear them speak you'd think they're talking about Hulk when he's just as normal as can be ? He's toned but his thighs aren't so thick , RM's thighs are thicker, his waist is very very very narrow as well as shoulders. Which is okay.

But it just shows that the most basic form of hypnosis is repetition. We keep saying why'd we find them attractive as if under a spell ? It's hypnosis induced by repetition, if you keep saying said or said member has this trait you'll start to see it as such even if it's far from reality.

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Tiny tiny jsjsjsjsjsjsjjs XD

Well, they just average boys. Like what PewDiePie said when he made a video about K-pop. They just average but when they together, it will BOOM!

Their charms are 27482829294819298492 times blow up. Ngl, but their visual isn't as good as big 3 companies,

I like them bcs their behavior, not good-looking only. I prefer their behavior. That's why I still stuck with hyyh era until now. They were so fun at that time than rn.

And yeah, armys still think that ta3hyung changed bcs he's mature, but who knows? Everyone get changed but duh, not that easy EXCEPT there's a trigger

Door · Apr 22, 2020

Not Bts related, but you guys are so knowledgable, I thought you might give me an answer.
What's the meaning behind the red carpet?
I heard that the shoes with red soles are illuminati symbolism because it's how your shoes would look if you walk in blood. And then I wondered why is the red carpet red, is there meaning behind that? I mean, I'm guessing it's connected to blood, but walking on the red carpet is also considered like a huge thing.

Edit: Could it kind of mean that if you're invited to walk on it, that there has been blood spilled for your success? Because we already know that in order to be successful in this material world you have to suck the devils dick in one way or another.
A path created from blood.

sabrininss · Apr 22, 2020

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1015884073019904001

here you go, the video

RaquelCF · Apr 22, 2020

sabrininss said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1015884073019904001
here you go, the video

Ew the way people are praising a grown ass man pushing a GIRL in the comments I’m disgusted

sabrininss · Apr 22, 2020

yeah right?? im not saying the girl is right, i know it must be tiring all of there girls showing up to your face but damn!! she is YOUR fan, how rude and arrogant you must be to not care about a fan of yours!!?? also she is just a girl and she wasn't harming anyone, she was just overwhelmed and maybe didnt know she crossed the line, there was NO reason for AGRESSION. It's even worse that he's much stronger and taller than her! It made me so upset that tae didn't say anything to the security man! If he loves army so much like he says, then why do he do this? Dude, if I was a male celebrity, and a younger girl tried getting closer to me like that, knowing she's the one who spends money and time on me, I'd NEVER be so cold like that! I truly felt bad for the girl...
I saw some army '' Oh, poor tae, what if she had a scissor or a knife?'' WHAT???!! Do you seriously look at this girl and think that??? how dumb are you? or are you just blind that your OppA isnt an angel?? Also, I highly doubt that an airpoirt would let a GIRL with a knife or something like that enter.... I really really like tae so much and hes also my bias but his behaviour was shitty as hell.
And heres a opinion of mine, do you like these girls when they spend their money on you, give you streams, but dont like when they show up to the airpoirt to just see you in person? C'mon, your hand won't fall if you wave at them or just smile....

sabrininss · Apr 22, 2020

But again, army are so brainwashed and dumb to think for themselves, if bts ever spits on someone, they will blame the person for standing in front of them!!

TheNightDuck · Apr 22, 2020

Secret149 said:
ahhh so non Muslims Arabic can also be seen wearing that kinda outfits ?

Yip anyone and everyone wears that attire there. So it makes ppl think its all muslims but thats not true

Princessssss · Apr 22, 2020

sabrininss said:
yeah right?? im not saying the girl is right, i know it must be tiring all of there girls showing up to your face but damn!! she is YOUR fan, how rude and arrogant you must be to not care about a fan of yours!!?? also she is just a girl and she wasn't harming anyone, she was just overwhelmed and maybe didnt know she crossed the line, there was NO reason for AGRESSION. It's even worse that he's much stronger and taller than her! It made me so upset that tae didn't say anything to the security man! If he loves army so much like he says, then why do he do this? Dude, if I was a male celebrity, and a younger girl tried getting closer to me like that, knowing she's the one who spends money and time on me, I'd NEVER be so cold like that! I truly felt bad for the girl...
I saw some army '' Oh, poor tae, what if she had a scissor or a knife?'' WHAT???!! Do you seriously look at this girl and think that??? how dumb are you? or are you just blind that your OppA isnt an angel?? Also, I highly doubt that an airpoirt would let a GIRL with a knife or something like that enter.... I really really like tae so much and hes also my bias but his behaviour was shitty as hell.
And heres a opinion of mine, do you like these girls when they spend their money on you, give you streams, but dont like when they show up to the airpoirt to just see you in person? C'mon, your hand won't fall if you wave at them or just smile....

Same thing happened to Jackson from got7 a girl was getting cloe to him I think holding an umbrella up for him , and his guard pushed her away so sge tripped. Everyone gasped and he became so angry at the guard , he went from smiling to angry and said something to guard like you dont push women , I really respect him . He is an idol but also just very normal always openly said that he dates etc , has girls in his mv and he’s just super humble. Besides that owns his own social media lol . He stil has fans they are just not delusional

RaquelCF · Apr 22, 2020

sabrininss said:
yeah right?? im not saying the girl is right, i know it must be tiring all of there girls showing up to your face but damn!! she is YOUR fan, how rude and arrogant you must be to not care about a fan of yours!!?? also she is just a girl and she wasn't harming anyone, she was just overwhelmed and maybe didnt know she crossed the line, there was NO reason for AGRESSION. It's even worse that he's much stronger and taller than her! It made me so upset that tae didn't say anything to the security man! If he loves army so much like he says, then why do he do this? Dude, if I was a male celebrity, and a younger girl tried getting closer to me like that, knowing she's the one who spends money and time on me, I'd NEVER be so cold like that! I truly felt bad for the girl...
I saw some army '' Oh, poor tae, what if she had a scissor or a knife?'' WHAT???!! Do you seriously look at this girl and think that??? how dumb are you? or are you just blind that your OppA isnt an angel?? Also, I highly doubt that an airpoirt would let a GIRL with a knife or something like that enter.... I really really like tae so much and hes also my bias but his behaviour was shitty as hell.
And heres a opinion of mine, do you like these girls when they spend their money on you, give you streams, but dont like when they show up to the airpoirt to just see you in person? C'mon, your hand won't fall if you wave at them or just smile....

THANK YOU! I completely agree with you.
Taes my bias too but I’m not brainwashed into thinking these guys can do no wrong and they have no faults.

I’ve stated this before here but the mentality that the fans have that BTS are perfect and blameless in their eyes is so toxic.

When I sense any arrogance coming from any of the members I’m just like ew

sabrininss · Apr 22, 2020

Princessssss said:
Same thing happened to Jackson from got7 a girl was getting cloe to him I think holding an umbrella up for him , and his guard pushed her away so sge tripped. Everyone gasped and he became so angry at the guard , he went from smiling to angry and said something to guard like you dont push women , I really respect him . He is an idol but also just very normal always openly said that he dates etc , has girls in his mv and he’s just super humble. Besides that owns his own social media lol . He stil has fans they are just not delusional

that was super humble of him!

sabrininss · Apr 22, 2020

RaquelCF said:
THANK YOU! I completely agree with you.
Taes my bias too but I’m not brainwashed into thinking these guys can do no wrong and they have no faults.

I’ve stated this before here but the mentality that the fans have that BTS are perfect and blameless in their eyes is so toxic.

When I sense any arrogance coming from any of the members I’m just like ew

yeah it pisses me off so much, who do they think they are? Jesus?

Kittyn · Apr 22, 2020

Princessssss said:
Same thing happened to Jackson from got7 a girl was getting cloe to him I think holding an umbrella up for him , and his guard pushed her away so sge tripped. Everyone gasped and he became so angry at the guard , he went from smiling to angry and said something to guard like you dont push women , I really respect him . He is an idol but also just very normal always openly said that he dates etc , has girls in his mv and he’s just super humble. Besides that owns his own social media lol . He stil has fans they are just not delusional

And he doesn't feed delusion to his fans. Talented and smart. Friendly also to Got7 members. He is angry if he have to. If I am a boy, I will be jealous but at the same time will be his fan.

TheNightDuck · Apr 22, 2020

Yeonjun said:
Factszz

All praise is due to Omniscient and Omnipresent Hayy-ul-Qayyoom. All journeys start and end at him. Our Team has no any other agenda except to tell you Truth and only Truth 2:42

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its true, about 97% of muslims are not properly following islam, only 3% follow quran which is true islam
as for 5 daily prayers, those are rituals, they are Zoroastrianisms persian corruption

Hi

If u piece together the Quraan it does say pray 5 times a day and constantly be in the rememberance of God

TheNightDuck · Apr 22, 2020

Anonymous said:
So arent you like defying the prophe Muhammad saw too if you defy hadith since hadith is quoted by him? How did you choose which hadith too believe in and which hadith not to since hadith has its own 'grade'. And Abu Hurairah ra is a companion of Muhammad saw and a narrartor. So when the hadith came to us, I mean our century it has been narrated by many thats why we have 'grades' in hadith and the Bukhary book which is أصح الكتاب بعد القرءان. Im sorry if I asked too much. Its just Ive learned Quran hadith and other courses/majors related so Ive heard bout Quranist but never met one.

Hadith have to be backed up by what the Qur'an says. If it doesnt match its fake or weak

muchim · Apr 22, 2020

sabrininss said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1015884073019904001
here you go, the video

Ughh, hate how I have to admit that he's arrogant asf, but here army saying the girls deserve it. welp

BOTH of them are wrong, the girl supposed to behave,
and THE GUY should respect that she's just a girl, what's wrong dude???? girl can harm them??? what kind girl? A fbi one? terrorist(sorry not trying to offend or racist)??

IT'S JUST A FANGIRL.

muchim · Apr 22, 2020

TheNightDuck said:
Hadith have to be backed up by what the Qur'an says. If it doesnt match its fake or weak

it depends on the 'sanad', 'matan', and 'rawi'

this book will explain it but, it's in Indonesian language and this is the book that we use in school, this is

http://pendis.kemenag.go.id/file/dokumen/bukupaiarab/buku_alquran_hadis_MA_10_siswa.pdf

page 92, they explain about the details of hadith

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