BTS discussion thread

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finally a korean article about Jamal at the club, this is panchoa (korean fansite)

[enter-talk] IF HE WAS A FEMALE IDOL, WOULDN'T HE BE BURIED TO DEATH?

Spoiler

" He probably thought that he wouldn't be taken in pictures if he went overseas ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ He looks like he drank a lot too since his face is totally red ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Park Jimin was always known to be good at drinking so it's impossible to look like this with only 1 or 2 cups I don't know how the fans will turn this situation around"

some comments:

5. [+144, -47]
If another idol went clubbing, you guys would've f*cking bashed him/her and called him/her promiscuous

6. [+121, -34]
If a female idol went to a pub and played with fans like that and got her pictures taken, it would've been a mess

it's not much....... but at least it was not totally hidden.....

 

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+ New trailer of SuperM:
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Behind him an altar dedicated to the sun, with roses, with different colored candles. White candle, used to summoned spirits. And red candle symbolizes: "The red color is a physical color.The red candle is a symbol of fire.Using the red candle can help you become famous or progress quickly in your career." And "The red candles are used to fulfill dreams, to encourage passions, provoke anger, lust and are beneficial to physical strength.Red is used in magic for passionate love, solving family problems or for revenge, it symbolizes anger and enemies.If your goal is only a flirt, red may not be necessary.".

It has four skulls that disappear on the plane of the top, followed by a Taeyong plane to the key-shaped earring, behind which it forms the light of the third eye (the 6 rings of lights: either rings of light , the representation of the moon or the 6 members of BTS and the altar, the one who is sacrificing):
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Taeyong hold the red son, son of loves, in several clips and photoshoot the son forms the satanist star. On this level in addition to the loop of oriel in the form of key on the right, it has the key in the form of illuminates on the left (very visible at the beginning of the trailer):
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Who starts in a cinema, recalling the scene of Jin, and that of EXO "Love Shot": On this level, above the cross that has a symbolism written over "XXX", " 7 "then" SIX "(Recalling the number of BTS members), then" START "then" 11 "then" 10 " and before that "8" without the cross then "35 SOUND" (or 53? like the photo with Jimin?).

It has a lot of reference to a robbery, it even has a slight appearance of the name of a bank, it also has a reference to the gas station (a motel on some clips). I was afraid it was bigger than we think (I had this theory, it has long ...).

Also note that in the clip "Love Shot", Sehun holds a red rose, while Kai hold a blue rose, "the gun" (the hand) whose two fingers the finger position at the third eye. In a sex dance and Kai in a necklace that looks like that of Black Panther.

He also often has one or more diamonds that appear.

Small annotation on "Love Shot" Xiumin, holds the card of their goddess, the card L, with 9 hearts.

Speaking of their goddess, you should know that the cake lit by candles is the symbol of the moon, their goddess is the goddess of the moon.

interesting, so you think there is a relation between BT-s and this new group? I find their trailers so strange
and why using a gun? with the current climate in the US (and they will focus on that market)...not a good idea

 

[Shuna]

interesting, so you think there is a relation between BT-s and this new group? I find their trailers so strange
and why using a gun? with the current climate in the US (and they will focus on that market)...not a good idea

In the KPop, he has a lot of connection.

 

[worldinside]

+ New trailer of SuperM:
View attachment 25330
Behind him an altar dedicated to the sun, with roses, with different colored candles. White candle, used to summoned spirits. And red candle symbolizes: "The red color is a physical color.The red candle is a symbol of fire.Using the red candle can help you become famous or progress quickly in your career." And "The red candles are used to fulfill dreams, to encourage passions, provoke anger, lust and are beneficial to physical strength.Red is used in magic for passionate love, solving family problems or for revenge, it symbolizes anger and enemies.If your goal is only a flirt, red may not be necessary.".

It has four skulls that disappear on the plane of the top, followed by a Taeyong plane to the key-shaped earring, behind which it forms the light of the third eye (the 6 rings of lights: either rings of light , the representation of the moon or the 6 members of BTS and the altar, the one who is sacrificing):
View attachment 25331
Taeyong hold the red son, son of loves, in several clips and photoshoot the son forms the satanist star. On this level in addition to the loop of oriel in the form of key on the right, it has the key in the form of illuminates on the left (very visible at the beginning of the trailer):
View attachment 25332
Who starts in a cinema, recalling the scene of Jin, and that of EXO "Love Shot": On this level, above the cross that has a symbolism written over "XXX", " 7 "then" SIX "(Recalling the number of BTS members), then" START "then" 11 "then" 10 " and before that "8" without the cross then "35 SOUND" (or 53? like the photo with Jimin?).

It has a lot of reference to a robbery, it even has a slight appearance of the name of a bank, it also has a reference to the gas station (a motel on some clips). I was afraid it was bigger than we think (I had this theory, it has long ...).

Also note that in the clip "Love Shot", Sehun holds a red rose, while Kai hold a blue rose, "the gun" (the hand) whose two fingers the finger position at the third eye. In a sex dance and Kai in a necklace that looks like that of Black Panther.

He also often has one or more diamonds that appear.

Small annotation on "Love Shot" Xiumin, holds the card of their goddess, the card L, with 9 hearts.

Speaking of their goddess, you should know that the cake lit by candles is the symbol of the moon, their goddess is the goddess of the moon.

i also realize tayong new super M Teaser give me illuminati vibe a lot, it's very obvious

 

[alx849]

Big Hit Chief Bang Si-Hyuk, Mastermind Behind BTS, Talks Music, Fans and New Ventures
https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/bts-big-hit-bang-si-hyuk-talks-music-fans-1203322755/?fbclid=IwAR3I7ZCxklBQCfzaTX07CQxmWulGJn_Bywkrj89U9BX6zc9j6Vnq6Ciiy3A

 

[JINtercession]

Ah, bh knows the influence power of their golden bunny boy, so they're starting to use him as a mouthpiece for the gender fluidity circus... I mean agenda, instead of just the leader since he's more popular (especially with younger fans, while the leader appeals to older/mature audience more I suppose) and more people would listen to him. Smart move BH.

In an interview with 'Vanity Fair'
When asked what “great style” is, Jungkook said, “Wearing anything you like, regardless of gender.”

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-jungkook-gender-norms-fashion-vanity-fair/

I think BH have been prepping him for a while though, I read somewhere they sent him to America to study female dance before debut.
I originally read it somewhere else, but here again in someone's trivia about him: https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/item/jungkook/kwr5_GwXhQIG70MZg036jB1DZ2Xmn6gwjz

Gotta put your 'break' on hold as an opportunity to spread this agenda is too good to miss I suppose.

 

[Truthteller]

Ah, bh knows the influence power of their golden bunny boy, so they're starting to use him as a mouthpiece for the gender fluidity circus... I mean agenda, instead of just the leader since he's more popular (especially with younger fans, while the leader appeals to older/mature audience more I suppose) and more people would listen to him. Smart move BH.

In an interview with 'Vanity Fair'
When asked what “great style” is, Jungkook said, “Wearing anything you like, regardless of gender.”

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-jungkook-gender-norms-fashion-vanity-fair/

I think BH have been prepping him for a while though, I read somewhere they sent him to America to study female dance before debut.
I originally read it somewhere else, but here again in someone's trivia about him: https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/item/jungkook/kwr5_GwXhQIG70MZg036jB1DZ2Xmn6gwjz

Gotta put your 'break' on hold as an opportunity to spread this agenda is too good to miss I suppose.

Someone posted this here, but no one said anything about how the fansite basically outed him. And this was apparently written a year ago to another fansite on chat. Only released recently to divert attention from the Jm scandal. Either way it seems some fans will never acknowledge.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1168916650164445185

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1168563291297333250

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1169322114718941184

 

[Truthteller]

"The other two, I don't feel the presence of their stans",referring to m0nster and h0pe!Sorry,but that was hilarious.
What's the headliner's long text mean?Any translations available?
Wonder what they said.

No idea tbh, but can you believe some people are sooo delusional they think she meant that JK is asexual or a virgin? ”Just proves he is soo pure and has never had gf ” Like how stupid can you be? No one calls young virgins mentally ill (potentially cured by a specific type of girl) or a waste. They just can’t accept that they will never have a chance, simply because he is not interested in girls at all.

Of course this did not come as news for most of us who already suspected he is g@y ( at least not for me). I wonder how much more these fansites know that they won’t spill. But headliner was a fansite of Infinite’s most popular member L before and also the one who spilled his dating news back in the day, which caused him to lose some fans. She then jumped to JK and will probably move on after him to another idol, but not while he is still popular. Ironically this was released by Jimhoe’s fansite, Jimhoe is even more obviously g@y than JK. And a very promiscuous one at that, or at least gives the impression of it. Of course once again some fans will deny.

 

[asdfghjkl3]

Ah, bh knows the influence power of their golden bunny boy, so they're starting to use him as a mouthpiece for the gender fluidity circus... I mean agenda, instead of just the leader since he's more popular (especially with younger fans, while the leader appeals to older/mature audience more I suppose) and more people would listen to him. Smart move BH.

In an interview with 'Vanity Fair'
When asked what “great style” is, Jungkook said, “Wearing anything you like, regardless of gender.”

https://www.koreaboo.com/news/bts-jungkook-gender-norms-fashion-vanity-fair/

I think BH have been prepping him for a while though, I read somewhere they sent him to America to study female dance before debut.
I originally read it somewhere else, but here again in someone's trivia about him: https://aminoapps.com/c/btsarmy/page/item/jungkook/kwr5_GwXhQIG70MZg036jB1DZ2Xmn6gwjz

Gotta put your 'break' on hold as an opportunity to spread this agenda is too good to miss I suppose.

How can people not see that this is a PR strategy???? When has been the last time Jungkook wore something that is gender-neutral, let alone feminine? The answer would be never, he has a very masculine style.
Actually none of them wear androgynous clothes, even Jimin and Jin wear pretty masculine styles in their off-time.

And what exactly do they mean by "female dance"? There are a few traditional dances that are female-only but in modern styles nothing is distinctly female, or female-only. Do they mean female dancers? Or are they saying anything that isn't hiphop is "female dancing"? Then female dance would be ballet, lyrical, contemporary etc.
But I wouldn't see studying "female dance", whatever that means, as proof of an agenda, especially since they never pushed him as androgynous. Besides, I don't think that BH really planned from the beginning to shift them from a macho image to this softer image. I don't think their boss is that smart.
If they mean lyrical or contemporary, it would make sense to teach him that. In the beginning he was stiff as a board and had no expression, be it facial or with his body. That makes a horrible dancer. Contemporary and lyrical are more fluid, and America has been setting a trend with over-the-top facial expressions for the last decade or so. So it would make sense to send him there.

 

[asdfghjkl3]

Someone posted this here, but no one said anything about how the fansite basically outed him. And this was apparently written a year ago to another fansite on chat. Only released recently to divert attention from the Jm scandal. Either way it seems some fans will never acknowledge.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1168916650164445185

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1168563291297333250

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1169322114718941184

Uhm... okay...looks like that person has some serious issues.
By the way, she blocked me. Until now I have never seen or heard of this person. But I cannot access her profile. This is... interesting to put it mildly.

 

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No idea tbh, but can you believe some people are sooo delusional they think she meant that JK is asexual or a virgin? ”Just proves he is soo pure and has never had gf ” Like how stupid can you be? No one calls young virgins mentally ill (potentially cured by a specific type of girl) or a waste. They just can’t accept that they will never have a chance, simply because he is not interested in girls at all.

Of course this did not come as news for most of us who already suspected he is g@y ( at least not for me). I wonder how much more these fansites know that they won’t spill. But headliner was a fansite of Infinite’s most popular member L before and also the one who spilled his dating news back in the day, which caused him to lose some fans. She then jumped to JK and will probably move on after him to another idol, but not while he is still popular. Ironically this was released by Jimhoe’s fansite, Jimhoe is even more obviously g@y than JK. And a very promiscuous one at that, or at least gives the impression of it. Of course once again some fans will deny.

the mentalli sickness part points to him being gay and I believe he is suicidal too
He has been seen with mark on his wrists several times ...

But the way his fansite talks about him....is pure hate. She considers him a loser you can tell
And the things she says about the others lol, It looks like Hope and RM are not popular in korea

 

[Scars512]

the mentalli sickness part points to him being gay and I believe he is suicidal too
He has been seen with mark on his wrists several times ...

But the way his fansite talks about him....is pure hate. She considers him a loser you can tell
And the things she says about the others lol, It looks like Hope and RM are not popular in korea

It doesn't surprise me that they aren't popular in Korea. They are the least attractive members. And not trying to be harsh, but the vast majority of Koreans wouldn't be considered good looking by their own standards ... so it is pretty hypocritical of them to focus on the looks of celebrities so much. Of course, it is the same in the US as well. Most people in any country can't live up to their own country's beauty standard. I don't know why people who aren't really good looking themselves would want to uphold such rigid beauty standards. It would benefit the majority to change society to focus on other traits that actually help society (like being good people, helping in the community, etc.) and that are achievable by most everyone rather than just looks (which is nothing more than winning the genetic lottery) -- but that's what humans do, it seems. The gazillion dollar beauty industry loves it, though. It is great for business.

 

[Truthteller]

the mentalli sickness part points to him being gay and I believe he is suicidal too
He has been seen with mark on his wrists several times ...

But the way his fansite talks about him....is pure hate. She considers him a loser you can tell
And the things she says about the others lol, It looks like Hope and RM are not popular in korea

To say she hates her job would be an understatement. She is only in it for the money and doesn’t admire these people at all ( probably because of all the things she knows about them). Of course what do you expect when all she does is to follow some kpop dude around, taking HD photos and videos of him or organizing meaningless fan projects. She probably feels like she isn’t contributing to anything meaningful in life which is understandable. She might have ber own mental problems and on top of all that must deal with hateful fans. Of course we don’t even know about other things that go on behind the scenes, he might be nasty to some people. So far we have seen TH who is supposed to be sweet and kind show some very shady attitude towards different people. Same with Jimbo. We don’t even know what they are like behind to the scenes or how thet treat others with less power than them.

I don’t know if he is suicidal even though it seems like he did self harm, but he is mentally unstable and very insecure about himself. Just the fact that he is a grown ass man who constantly gets nervous break downs and starts crying because of mistakes during performance, yeah that is not normal imo. Maybe that is why no one ever makes fun of him. Actually several of them seem mentally unstable especially Candyman ( abuses prescription drugs), TH (most likely to kill himself one day) and Jimbo (alcohol problem, total wreck tbh).

 

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I don’t know if he is suicidal even though it seems like he did self harm, but he is mentally unstable and very insecure about himself. Just the fact that he is a grown ass man who constantly gets nervous break downs and starts crying because of mistakes during performance, yeah that is not normal imo. Maybe that is why no one ever makes fun of him. Actually several of them seem mentally unstable especially Candyman ( abuses prescription drugs), TH (most likely to kill himself one day) and Jimbo (alcohol problem, total wreck tbh).

I'm thinking this too
The other members never make fun of him....it may be related to him having serious issues (self harm) so they have to treat him carefully

about Candy man....a few days ago I saw an article about him looking very bloated and some fans pointed out it may be some prescription drugs ..... Because his body was still very skinny but his face was bloated (he looked unhealthy)
So yes....these guys are all in very bad mental state

 

[yxxllxh]

I'm thinking this too
The other members never make fun of him....it may be related to him having serious issues (self harm) so they have to treat him carefully

about Candy man....a few days ago I saw an article about him looking very bloated and some fans pointed out it may be some prescription drugs ..... Because his body was still very skinny but his face was bloated (he looked unhealthy)
So yes....these guys are all in very bad mental state

can you link me the Candy Man article about the prescription drugs or any evidence on that please ?

 

[NotDelulu]

To say she hates her job would be an understatement. She is only in it for the money and doesn’t admire these people at all ( probably because of all the things she knows about them). Of course what do you expect when all she does is to follow some kpop dude around, taking HD photos and videos of him or organizing meaningless fan projects. She probably feels like she isn’t contributing to anything meaningful in life which is understandable. She might have ber own mental problems and on top of all that must deal with hateful fans. Of course we don’t even know about other things that go on behind the scenes, he might be nasty to some people. So far we have seen TH who is supposed to be sweet and kind show some very shady attitude towards different people. Same with Jimbo. We don’t even know what they are like behind to the scenes or how thet treat others with less power than them.

I don’t know if he is suicidal even though it seems like he did self harm, but he is mentally unstable and very insecure about himself. Just the fact that he is a grown ass man who constantly gets nervous break downs and starts crying because of mistakes during performance, yeah that is not normal imo. Maybe that is why no one ever makes fun of him. Actually several of them seem mentally unstable especially Candyman ( abuses prescription drugs), TH (most likely to kill himself one day) and Jimbo (alcohol problem, total wreck tbh).

Headliner is a 40 year old woman who has been following jk since he was 14. She obviously knows a lot about him as he is also very transparent in hiding his emotions. He never really acknowledged her and I heard many times he doesnt like her(they all have many fansites which they came to recognize over the years and look at their cams during concerts).
Headliner is a psycho herself, she has had so many controversy around her - just 2 weeks ago she had a scandal and accused of being racist. but only after these text exposed she finally started to lose followers (she was over 1m followers on twitter).
This whole fiasco was exposed deliberately on jk's birthday by jimin fancam site. I also believe none of them care about the boys as people but a way to make a profit out of them they do make a lot of money. Lots of the fansites are rude, assaulting fans and disturbing the concerts so the fans have little tolerance to begin with towards them.
I actually was surprised she didnt say the messages were fabricated, she admitted she sent them and apologized- basically confirming she did say all that.
And yes I 100% believe she meant he was gay, which in sk you must not out someone against their will as its against the law. Lucky for her she implied it and didnt say it directly

 

[cadiz]

can you link me the Candy Man article about the prescription drugs or any evidence on that please ?

it was a pannchoa article...here is the tweet but it looks like the original article was deleted or reported, and link don't work

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1160937711559200770

 

[NotDelulu]

Isn't it strange how all the members are travelling yet only hobi was documented leaving and returning to Korea? Bh really has the power over the media, they couldn't have stayed under the radar like that without kmedia cooperating with b1ghit. So why hope and not the others? I think the way he looked and appeared was delibarate and they had to show him somehow for some reason.

Jimin going to Paris and rm going to Europe but nobody saw them? Please.
btw I dont think jm was back to Korea for jk birthday. In all tweets he posts he loves showing himself and here they only showed jk. I think it was staged

 

[blackdwarf]

Headliner is a 40 year old woman who has been following jk since he was 14. She obviously knows a lot about him as he is also very transparent in hiding his emotions. He never really acknowledged her and I heard many times he doesnt like her(they all have many fansites which they came to recognize over the years and look at their cams during concerts).
Headliner is a psycho herself, she has had so many controversy around her - just 2 weeks ago she had a scandal and accused of being racist. but only after these text exposed she finally started to lose followers (she was over 1m followers on twitter).
This whole fiasco was exposed deliberately on jk's birthday by jimin fancam site. I also believe none of them care about the boys as people but a way to make a profit out of them they do make a lot of money. Lots of the fansites are rude, assaulting fans and disturbing the concerts so the fans have little tolerance to begin with towards them.
I actually was surprised she didnt say the messages were fabricated, she admitted she sent them and apologized- basically confirming she did say all that.
And yes I 100% believe she meant he was gay, which in sk you must not out someone against their will as its against the law. Lucky for her she implied it and didnt say it directly

40 years old? Why am I surprised lmao

 

[blackdwarf]

it was a pannchoa article...here is the tweet but it looks like the original article was deleted or reported, and link don't work

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1160937711559200770

I've seen an ig post in Seoltang's fanbase account that Seoltang was gaining weight. At first I was happy for him being healthy (because he's so skinny ofc) but not exaggerating my happiness like other Armies. I just like, "oh you're gaining weight. It's good."

But what happen with his face? He looks weird in that photo