BTS discussion thread

Joined
May 24, 2018
Messages
1,407
What do you guys think of BT$ debut which is June 13, 2013. I read that 13 is an important number for the elite? Also 20(13) and when you add the numbers 2+0+1+3 = 6. And June being the 6th month and I heard they also like to sacrifice during this month? Or it doesn't have a meaning?

T.N: BTS anniversary is on June 13 (they debuted on June 13, 2013). BTS FESTA are celebrations that start June 1st leading up to their anniversary on June 13. Bangtan drop a series of photos, songs, videos … as a gift for their fans on their different social media platforms. And ARMYs too prepare a series of celebrations for the boys.
 

Bae Yeon Hee

Established
Joined
May 17, 2018
Messages
487
I'm not sure if freemasonry is that evil
I've heard people saying its not and the ones who are evil are the ones who are pretending to be freemasons in the group or aren't true freemasons
But i'm not a freemason so I wouldn't know for sure
It is evil, you have to get to higher levels before they trust you with the information and show you everything, therefore some Freemason early members wouldn't know what really goes on... 33 is the highest level of freemasonry, Walt Disney and many others were 33 level. Jesus died at the age of 33 which is why that's a important number for Masons
Here's a quick history on the Illuminati and Freemasonry. Why at the 33rd degree, they are one in the same. Adam weishaupt created the secret society the Illuminati in Bavaria Germany in 1776. After a yr it was banned in all of Germany. So Weishaupt joined a Masonic lodge in Munich. There he was able to get in good with a very powerful mason. He was able to convince this powerful mason to adopt his original Illuminati agenda and philosophy, there by basically infiltrating masonry as more lodges would later adopt the same agenda. Since Weishaupts original Illuminati had been banned, they kept the darker aspects of it secret til reaching higher degrees. Yes many Masons have no clue about the sinister side, only the elected get that so called privilege. It did originally start off as something good til Adam Weishaupt corrupted it.
 

the world is a stage

Established
Joined
Mar 28, 2018
Messages
267
What do you guys think of BT$ debut which is June 13, 2013. I read that 13 is an important number for the elite? Also 20(13) and when you add the numbers 2+0+1+3 = 6. And June being the 6th month and I heard they also like to sacrifice during this month? Or it doesn't have a meaning?
It has a meaning. Occultists love to play with numbers.
 

Bae Yeon Hee

Established
Joined
May 17, 2018
Messages
487
What do you guys think of BT$ debut which is June 13, 2013. I read that 13 is an important number for the elite? Also 20(13) and when you add the numbers 2+0+1+3 = 6. And June being the 6th month and I heard they also like to sacrifice during this month? Or it doesn't have a meaning?
Well numerology is sacred in the occult. Everything they do is centered around numerology. 3,5,6,7,9,11,13, 27 & 33 being very special to them. 11,13 & 33 are signature #'s. I don't think it was coincidence they debuted on that day. That date was considered a powerful date.
 
Joined
May 24, 2018
Messages
1,407
here is the backstage of their music video:


Pay attention how they don't explain the scenes at all. Only RM talks about looking at his "other self" in the mirror and Jimin says he has to represent "trauma"
Then we see them wearing the cloaks (of course no explanation for that) and them joking with the masks talking about Iron Man

If there is nothing to hide then why don't they talk about the true meaning behind those customes and what is the relation with the "fake love" concept? They don't even talk about the movie "eyes wide shut" that was their obvious inspiration.
I don't believe RM is clueless about this, he is out there recommending books and talking about Nieztche and Marx but he doesnt queastion their music videos at all?

Wow they didn't even explain the masks/cloaks? And jh0p3's setting just gives me el1te p3do vibes- the candy the amusement park things all indicate childhood. And j M with trauma with water what is that? Someone should bring that up in their interviews. All the symbols
 

hrosies

Rookie
Joined
May 17, 2018
Messages
98
View attachment 8351View attachment 8352
These two ones are really striking s well. It's even worse on Jungook's pants as you have to actually combine both symbols.

And that's a really strange shirt to be worn by a guy.
I think J!n’s sweater is supposed to mean that he wants a girl to call him. I think if it was supposed to be implied differently, it would say “Please Call Me A Girl”.
 

Obsidian

Rookie
Joined
May 19, 2018
Messages
58
Hello, I'm new to this thread. I found it very insightful & informative.

And wanted to share my review. First of all, I'm sorry for my English( Also, I dont have intention to attack any religion. Just want to share my experience.
My belief/religion (?) is paganism, so we believe that nature has soul, we believe in forces of nature, have shamans and do rituals.
My mom always told me: "Don't be afraid Evil/Satan. Be afraid of people. People has evil side".
In spring we give sacrifice to great River. We believe it has spirit/soul. Our sacrifice is usually just bread with butter. We don't believe that River spirit is absolute Good. We know it has also evil side like each human.
About BTS - during earlier day they did use some dark things/hidden triggers like skulls etc. But as time flew I think they also changed. Now they use more difficult hidden triggers: they logo - butterfly (it can be interpreted as symbol of mind control Monarch MK Ultra but I always see it as symbol of rebirth/metamorphosis), tree (dead tree revives in the end of Spring Day), bird (Abraxas - God with good and bad side, symbol of growth, self-enlightenment) etc.
They do use triggers/symbols but in good way - to help those who lost their way. BTS always give me hope.
In Fire MV, they burned hooded figure. In later MVs they turn hooded figures into ally using their music. There are many another theories/interpretation but I think BTS accepted existence of bad side of this imperfect world and try to change it considering all trials.

Little remark about Illuminati. From Wiki: "the society's goals were to oppose superstition, obscurantism, religious influence over public life, and abuses of state power. Many influential intellectuals and progressive politicians counted themselves as members." Afterwards meaning changed. So initially it was underground community of scientists &intellectuals who were looking for enlightenment like in legend of Prometheus.
Sounds similar with BTS but I dont think they are involved with nowadays illuminatis who are very different from initial purpose of founder illuminati.
About fan obsession - it's not BTS guilt, they dont want it that much (Pied Piper). If obsession over BTS influences badly on fans lives - fans are guilty themselves for not controlling their own evils that live inside each person. Big Hit as any company wants profit - but it doesnt demand you to give your last money. You decide yourself.
So in conclusion I wanna tell - if you are looking for Evil in BTS, you will find it, because BTS are imperfect, they did many mistakes. But BTS try to grow as persons, to act like good role models, they also suffer, sacrifice their youth for career, but they still try to comfort us, give advise. You can decide yourself which side you are looking for. Like fire - it can burn - bad side, but also give warmth - good side.
I agree with you on many things. In the case of symbolism - I'm still researching - but many symbols originally had a good meaning but have been intentionally corrupted. Because of this, the 'masses' have an automatic negative knee jerk reaction to symbolism, which is a shame because symbols are powerful.

At this point, I think with the music industry, the symbolism used is most probably not in our favour. But sometimes I think, if I changed my mindset, would the symbolism somehow have to work in my favour? Because I approach with a more negative mindset.

I don't know if any of you are into reading palms, but I find it very interesting that his palm has such a faint heart line and such an unusually long head line.
 

blissfate

Veteran
Joined
Apr 1, 2018
Messages
698
Jungkook would just be scared of a microwave and you’d be analysing and turning it into a bad thing... don’t get me a wrong I believe in things that are said in This thread but some of y’all are getting one thing and turning it into something bad.. lmao
Yeah keep in mind jk's brain hasn't (fully developed)? if you would say so this seems to be pretty normal
 

blissfate

Veteran
Joined
Apr 1, 2018
Messages
698
I don't know if any of you are into reading palms, but I find it very interesting that his palm has such a faint heart line and such an unusually long head line.
I also saw that he has a mole on his palm (i'm not sure if this connects) but i've heard something along the lines of that being bad luck or obstacles?
 

blissfate

Veteran
Joined
Apr 1, 2018
Messages
698
That's interesting. I was told that a mole on the palm indicates wealth !
You might be right.. i've heard of moles being on the fingers are obstacles so I assumed it might be the case
But i'm looking at other images and yours seems to be true.. but its on the left
 

UnspokenSoliloquy

Established
Joined
Mar 21, 2017
Messages
457
I was Korean dramas on my fire stick through the Rakuten Viki app. It has a awesome feature where it can show both the subtitles and comments that people leave during the show, like a live chat. Every show I’ve ever watch at some point BTS or Army shows up.
 

Chic

Veteran
Joined
Jan 16, 2018
Messages
797
Jungkook would just be scared of a microwave and you’d be analysing and turning it into a bad thing... don’t get me a wrong I believe in things that are said in This thread but some of y’all are getting one thing and turning it into something bad.. lmao

To be fair, @hibzter did say they realized it wasn't related to JK but was just sharing what they found.

I don't think people read an entire post before commenting.
 

Chic

Veteran
Joined
Jan 16, 2018
Messages
797
I agree with you on many things. In the case of symbolism - I'm still researching - but many symbols originally had a good meaning but have been intentionally corrupted. Because of this, the 'masses' have an automatic negative knee jerk reaction to symbolism, which is a shame because symbols are powerful.

At this point, I think with the music industry, the symbolism used is most probably not in our favour. But sometimes I think, if I changed my mindset, would the symbolism somehow have to work in my favour? Because I approach with a more negative mindset.



I don't know if any of you are into reading palms, but I find it very interesting that his palm has such a faint heart line and such an unusually long head line.

I peeped that too.
 

Bae Yeon Hee

Established
Joined
May 17, 2018
Messages
487
I was Korean dramas on my fire stick through the Rakuten Viki app. It has a awesome feature where it can show both the subtitles and comments that people leave during the show, like a live chat. Every show I’ve ever watch at some point BTS or Army shows up.
Oh wow, I love kdramas but I couldn't handle seeing comments. I have DF but rarely read reviews. I also typically avoid YT comment sections but the few times I do read em there is always several ARMY on the most random videos. It's crazy.
 

MochiAmour

Established
Joined
Feb 14, 2018
Messages
460
To be fair, I don't think people read an entire post before commenting.
This ^ some new posters are coming off quite condescending and mocking.

It's okay to not believe everything in this thread since we'll all have our own views and opinions on different matters, but there's no need to try and make others feel foolish for sharing their theories or other information since that's the point of this thread. If you think something is too outside the box for your thinking, feel free to skim past that particular post and comment on something else you can actually contribute too. Just my thoughts.

Also, it would be appreciated if new posters can read through the entire thread (yes, it's long but filled with tons of useful information). This thread is starting to go in circles with the repetitive questions that have been discussed in depth previously and new information/theories are getting lost in the midst of it.
 
Last edited:
Top