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The bubble is bursting I think. People are starting to see the truth.
I think that sharing the truth is the only thing that could help not only the fans, but the members too! But I wonder what could happen if hypothetically their influence and fame diminish. Like would they just get disbanded and freed or swallowed in that satanic pit, only to be used for other awful stuff?
 

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There were also two other points that I didn't quite enjoy while I was "consuming" their content- the fact that fans often looked at them in forums, websites in a very sexual way "shipping" them and praising everything that they could see. After that, I realized that they always talk about being humble and no exposing body parts, but from the beginning, there is no such thing- first I believe mostly Jimin did it but after that the exposure becomes more often and reached more members. Why do they do that when they know that some of their fans are minors.... Is this not leading to the same effect as other subliminal sexual content in media? It is awful...
That always disturbed me too. During my time on stan twitter, I would see fans tweeting the most vile sexual things about the members and armys loved it. Also, all the disturbing fanfiction that's out there. Maknae line (the youngest members) were always sexualized since debut. And J*min if I'm not mistaken was a minor when he had to lift up his shirt. There is also alot of bizarre p*do type photoshoots they would have the members do in the early days. The Chicago Now 3 photoshoot comes to mind. Also beta kitten programming is talked about in this thread and that explains a lot of their current behaviors. I've attached photos from Now3 and you can see why I find them questionable...
 

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That always disturbed me too. During my time on stan twitter, I would see fans tweeting the most vile sexual things about the members and armys loved it. Also, all the disturbing fanfiction that's out there. Maknae line (the youngest members) were always sexualized since debut. And J*min if I'm not mistaken was a minor when he had to lift up his shirt. There is also alot of bizarre p*do type photoshoots they would have the members do in the early days. The Chicago Now 3 photoshoot comes to mind. Also beta kitten programming is talked about in this thread and that explains a lot of their current behaviors. I've attached photos from Now3 and you can see why I find them questionable...
Daaamn I have never seen these pics...awful...the make-up making them look even more childish and the poses and everything... And btw I am not sure, but have they ever addressed the problem with members being shipped? Like I have seen fans talk about it as a problem but never the members ( which itself too is disturbing)
 

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That always disturbed me too. During my time on stan twitter, I would see fans tweeting the most vile sexual things about the members and armys loved it. Also, all the disturbing fanfiction that's out there. Maknae line (the youngest members) were always sexualized since debut. And J*min if I'm not mistaken was a minor when he had to lift up his shirt. There is also alot of bizarre p*do type photoshoots they would have the members do in the early days. The Chicago Now 3 photoshoot comes to mind. Also beta kitten programming is talked about in this thread and that explains a lot of their current behaviors. I've attached photos from Now3 and you can see why I find them questionable...
Suga in the fourth picture looks he was about to cry
 

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Daaamn I have never seen these pics...awful...the make-up making them look even more childish and the poses and everything... And btw I am not sure, but have they ever addressed the problem with members being shipped? Like I have seen fans talk about it as a problem but never the members ( which itself too is disturbing)
T*e is the only one that has. It wasn't in an obvious way but he responded to a shipper post with this...IMG_20210731_111851.jpg
 
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That always disturbed me too. During my time on stan twitter, I would see fans tweeting the most vile sexual things about the members and armys loved it. Also, all the disturbing fanfiction that's out there. Maknae line (the youngest members) were always sexualized since debut. And J*min if I'm not mistaken was a minor when he had to lift up his shirt. There is also alot of bizarre p*do type photoshoots they would have the members do in the early days. The Chicago Now 3 photoshoot comes to mind. Also beta kitten programming is talked about in this thread and that explains a lot of their current behaviors. I've attached photos from Now3 and you can see why I find them questionable...
These were questionable too.



The donuts blanket remind me of the Chicago pizza comments from txt.


 

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These were questionable too.



The donuts blanket remind me of the Chicago pizza comments from txt.


They are made to look like kids and at the same time some of them (especially Jimin) at some points is made so feminine...this is not right at all...And some of these poses and shots are plain sexual or submissive... And in conclusion, this is made reachable to any BTS fan, including adults who clearly had no problem with this.... how brainwashed can you be and just label this as cute and go on.... Im sorry if I sound too dramatic at times, but as a psychologist I cannot just accept this and move on..
 

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In regards to all I have seen here, I am very much persuaded of the effects that the K-pop industry ( and not only, but here the topic is K-pop so I include only that). But I am also a future psychologist and would like to actually examine how vast and how serious are the effects of K-pop (good and bad sides) on the audience (and mostly their fans). So in this regard, if there are here other psychology students who are interested in a group and global psychological research, please message me! :)
 

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I feel like Tae and Kookie were absolutely fooling around/a thing at some point, doubt they even speak much with each other now off cam.

Also apparently during some point of kook's Vlive you could hear a female voice..Army about to lose their minds once that blows up lol .
 

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These were questionable too.



The donuts blanket remind me of the Chicago pizza comments from txt.


So disturbing. The photobook talked about never growing up etc. Creepy! And in these photos of jn and jk you can see the neverland poster in the back. I think they are supposed to be the lost boys from Peter pan. I read someone's post on here about the occults love for referencing Peter pan and I wish I remember what they said.41a2f8a723ff919e5299f6d753725a33.jpgdownload.jpeg-2.jpg
 

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That always disturbed me too. During my time on stan twitter, I would see fans tweeting the most vile sexual things about the members and armys loved it. Also, all the disturbing fanfiction that's out there. Maknae line (the youngest members) were always sexualized since debut. And J*min if I'm not mistaken was a minor when he had to lift up his shirt. There is also alot of bizarre p*do type photoshoots they would have the members do in the early days. The Chicago Now 3 photoshoot comes to mind. Also beta kitten programming is talked about in this thread and that explains a lot of their current behaviors. I've attached photos from Now3 and you can see why I find them questionable...
These were questionable too.



The donuts blanket remind me of the Chicago pizza comments from txt.


wow wtff i have never seen this pictures.... i was just watching a documentary called an open secret and they were literally talking about the SAME thing at 27:18. There was this photographer named Bob Villard who photographed aspiring child actors and he would take pictures of them with the camera angle from the top down because it shows how a child would look at a predator in an abuse situation. And that's EXACTLY how those photos are of bt5. It really makes me sick, because in the documentary they said that he would then sell those photos on ebay so clearly those photos weren't just for the fans :( so who knows WHO bang p3d0 was also sending those photos to

tae sitting on the black couch in particular is the most disturbing for me because of "casting couch" meaning :(
 

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I feel like Tae and Kookie were absolutely fooling around/a thing at some point, doubt they even speak much with each other now off cam.

Also apparently during some point of kook's Vlive you could hear a female voice..Army about to lose their minds once that blows up lol .
Ohhh a female voice?? Haha reminds me of some DVD content where JK was in front of the camera and his ex was sitting on the couch waiting for him. They blurred her out, tattoos and all but it was clearly her. Armys tried to bury that one and said it was a staff lol.
 

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The donuts blanket remind me of the Chicago pizza comments from txt.
they would ALWAYS mention p3d0 code words in interviews. Even during their debut days when they were in the US for their showcase. I really didn't want to believe at first that they were also prostitutes because they are still so young but now im convinced. This was one in one of their performances for their comeback. I'm afraid them and enhyp3n will end up just like bt5. Ni-ki and Sun00 are only 15 and 17 and yet their already being sexualized just like jungk00k was :(
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wow wtff i have never seen this pictures.... i was just watching a documentary called an open secret and they were literally talking about the SAME thing at 27:18. There was this photographer named Bob Villard who photographed aspiring child actors and he would take pictures of them with the camera angle from the top down because it shows how a child would look at a predator in an abuse situation. And that's EXACTLY how those photos are of bt5. It really makes me sick, because in the documentary they said that he would then sell those photos on ebay so clearly those photos weren't just for the fans :( so who knows WHO bang p3d0 was also sending those photos to

tae sitting on the black couch in particular is the most disturbing for me because of "casting couch" meaning :(
I saw that documentary and cried. I can never look at a film with child actors in it the same way again knowing what happens behind the scenes. And true, it seemed that photoshoot was not geared toward armys at all. The way they have the camera angled, the looks they had the members convey, the poses, just horrible. These 2 photos I have
no words..
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they would ALWAYS mention p3d0 code words in interviews. Even during their debut days when they were in the US for their showcase. I really didn't want to believe at first that they were also prostitutes because they are still so young but now im convinced. This was one in one of their performances for their comeback. I'm afraid them and enhyp3n will end up just like bt5. Ni-ki and Sun00 are only 15 and 17 and yet their already being sexualized just like jungk00k was :(
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OMG this breaks my heart! I can't believe their parents would throw them to the wolves like this. How old is the boy in the black & white photo, he looks like a preteen. So disturbing! I know it's unlikely, but I pray they can be saved somehow.
 

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OMG this breaks my heart! I can't believe their parents would throw them to the wolves like this. How old is the boy in the black & white photo, he looks like a preteen. So disturbing! I know it's unlikely, but I pray they can be saved somehow.
I too wish there is a way for them to be saved and often ask if we, as a global community can do something. For now we can only pray for them...
 

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I wonder isn't the staff, praised so much by ARMY that they always care for the members ( which is probably not true) are all in this or they just have no option but to stay silent... To have any traces of dignity and pride crushed, they probably barely know who they are and what are they actually doing by this point...
 

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OMG this breaks my heart! I can't believe their parents would throw them to the wolves like this. How old is the boy in the black & white photo, he looks like a preteen. So disturbing! I know it's unlikely, but I pray they can be saved somehow.
i believe he's 17. and I know right?! Like in t ex t's mv for puma there were so many disturbing scenes, like two members being forced to eat raw meat and look at each other sexually. Even in enhyp3n's given-taken the youngest member, ni-ki was chained in the mv and he was 14 i believe. If i were their parents and I saw that my son had plastic surgery to look like a girl, and is now sucking on lollipops, wearing cheetah print, tied in chains, locked in cages, and singing about the devil I DEFINETLY would not let it slide. Like for example this is hu3ning ka1's older sister when she was in the girl group viva. I saw someone mention in the comments that she was underage in this and they gave her and the rest of the group these short ass skirts and dancing all suggestively. I seriously wonder what their parents think seeing their child like this... think strawberrypie mentioned that his younger sister will be in a show called girls planet 999 or something like that:confused:
That's why I'm starting to think that many of them were born into the industry and are lying about why they wanted to become an idol. What do you guys think?
I saw that documentary and cried. I can never look at a film with child actors in it the same way again knowing what happens behind the scenes. And true, it seemed that photoshoot was not geared toward armys at all. The way they have the camera angled, the looks they had the members convey, the poses, just horrible. These 2 photos I have
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i still havent finished the documentary yet and idk if i wanna continue cause it's too much :(
 

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I wonder isn't the staff, praised so much by ARMY that they always care for the members ( which is probably not true) are all in this or they just have no option but to stay silent... To have any traces of dignity and pride crushed, they probably barely know who they are and what are they actually doing by this point...
i heard that staff secretly take pics of the members and send them to sasaengs or something like that. I also read somewhere that these groups are taught how to interact with staff when the cameras are on to make it look like there is good relationship between them.
 
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They are made to look like kids and at the same time some of them (especially Jimin) at some points is made so feminine...this is not right at all...And some of these poses and shots are plain sexual or submissive... And in conclusion, this is made reachable to any BTS fan, including adults who clearly had no problem with this.... how brainwashed can you be and just label this as cute and go on.... Im sorry if I sound too dramatic at times, but as a psychologist I cannot just accept this and move on..
Sadly, it's worse than that. I'm sure some of you have heard of pedo noonas. Those are women attracted to underage kpop idols and in some cases it's their badge of honor.
 
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