Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[Josh]

Do you guys have any intel on YG's 'iKON' boy group?

 

[tyrab]

With all that blindfolding that happened to Yeri covering her ears in the video is similar to what happens to Jin and Jimin in BS&T
JIMIN:
Suga covers his eyes
0:58, 3:45
and with Jin
3:54, 5:50

and BTS Jap version

4:13 Suga and Jimin again and at 2:00 V stabs Jin like what happened in I Need You original ver

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

"Lawful laws, There are no Conservatives or Liberals
Anyhow the body with two arms, murder.
One government, new world order
Slaughter. No border. 2000 years of war is a fiction
It's on, son. It ain't about daydreaming or messing around
See, the global recession. Isn't it fun whenever the period recycles?
Let me see, what's on my thoughts?
That's on the top, it's a round of "jenga" game.
Demian, living only in the darkness
get get get get it kid? I pity you for living in the darkness.
(What about them, those people who has'em all? If you give explanation I will listen)
OK, I wanna earn more money (we all know that)
Ok, from a boy to a man, a man to a rich and a rich to man of power.
Those with the powers wants to play God. It's the decision that will be answered with "No, yeah" and become a slave.

I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't know, don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't wanna know. Don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. The truth, I don't wanna hear, I don't wanna hear. I don't know, I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't wanna know, I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear the truth.

You want your business, are you going to store those transactions?
You will get the Triple Six, what you don't believe me?
It's easy. Now imagine the world without any credit.
Can't buy anything nor sell any. With those invisible handcuffs,
Nevertheless, with your kind of figures it's possible
Those statistics, a slave. Okay
Now, your hands full of bills, and
Your body more convent then card s, your body becomes the card.
It'll be super fast. Even with those attitudes it will follow the orders.
If it doesn't follow the orders, just chute it in half like those defective cards.
It's simple, there just isn't enough guns to kill you and I
But there's enough money to tame us.


I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't know, I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't wanna know, I don't wanna hear the truth
I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't know, I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't wanna know, I don't wanna hear the truth


The truth is ruthless. Toothless but fanged.
Two-faced bruteness. Roofless in the rain.
The crude taste of sane. A suitcase full of pain.
The truth is truthless. A moot case of blame."

Why does this sound like the near future and the cashless society?
Also Demian is mentioned in the song. Those "idols" are just puppets. It makes me laugh every time I hear any of then write their own lyrics(they may let them do a few but it's usually some cheesy ones). Those groups/concepts/songs have been planned way ahead of time. The more I research, the more interconnection I see.

They are talking about new world order, its very obvious, cashless society, one currency(bitcoin), they wanted to kill all people but according to the song, they won't kill all because they don't have enough arms but I doubt if its real, because the vast majority will be dead when NWO started, the microchip also mentioned

I didn't understand what is demian? yes I am also don't believe any Kpop celebrities that write its own lyrics, they want us to think only SM singers don't write their own lyrics, and you see those VIP fans that think Big Bang is the only one who write their own lyrics unlike(superior to) SM lol, they make me laugh, none at all write their own lyrics not even Big Bang nor JYJ

 

[Frozenrose]

They are talking about new world order, its very obvious, cashless society, one currency(bitcoin), they wanted to kill all people but according to the song, they won't kill all because they don't have enough arms but I doubt if its real, because the vast majority will be dead when NWO started, the microchip also mentioned

I didn't understand what is demian? yes I am also don't believe any Kpop celebrities that write its own lyrics, they want us to think only SM singers don't write their own lyrics, and you see those VIP fans that think Big Bang is the only one who write their own lyrics unlike(superior to) SM lol, they make me laugh, none at all write their own lyrics not even Big Bang nor JYJ

"Hey guys! I recently finished reading Demian so just thought I'd write a post containing all the quotes that link to BTS. I'm not including the quotes that Rap Mon narrates though.

In terms of theories this is what I believe:

1. I think that Jin represents Sinclair and the other members represent Demian (various aspects of the psyche). They are all essentially the same person.

2. Hermann Hesse suffered from depression and was influenced by the psychiatrist Carl Jung. Hesse has said that Demian is semi-autobiographical so that might explain all the suicide/mental illness themes.

3. "Awake" is the only time Jin (Sinclair) really dreams as himself.

There are A LOT of references to dreams in the book so all of the films are dreams.

Time for quotes - some of these you might already know but some may be new:

"My story was that...I had stolen a sackful of apples at night" - Lie/Jimin

My sin was having given my hand to the devil"

"Day after tomorrow I'll whistle for you" - referring to Kromer's whistle. First Love/Suga

"She (Sinclair's mother) stood there and held out the piece of chocolate"- Mama/J-hope

Sinclair dreams about Kromer telling him to do bad things. One of them is this:
"Kromer indicated to me by pressure on my arm that that was the person I had to stab, it was my father" - Stigma/I need U/Taehyung

The book explores the idea that Cain is noble. Taehyung kills his father because he's abusive = noble?

"I dreamt again about being beaten and terrorized, but this time instead of Kromer it was Demian kneeling on me" - Stigma/Taehyung.

- This was Sinclair's "first love" - First Love/Suga

"That night I dreamt about Demian and the coat of arms...often it (the bird) was terrifically big and multicolored"

- Mama/J-hope

After suffering from financial problems Sinclair says,

"I either drowned myself or was sent to reform school" - Lie/Jimin

"I began to paint"- Begin/Jungkook


"I got the feeling that it (his painting) wasn't Beatrice or Demian, but myself" - Begin/Jungkook. There were a lot of debates on who the painting in Wings was of, V/Suga or Jungkook.


"I decided to send him (Demian) the picture of the Sparrowhawk"- Begin/Jungkook AND Reflection/Rap Mon

Jungkook sends the picture to Rap Mon.

"My painted bird was on its way, finding a friend" - Begin/Jungook AND Reflection/Rap Mon

"Abraxas has a much greater significance...combining the godlike and the devilish" - Awake/Jin

Abraxas' appearance

"I was mentally prepared to take my life at some point" - HYYH/I need U

Sinclair is drawn to Pistorious' organ playing. Pistorious is also obsessed with fire.

- reminds us of First Love/Suga

When Sinclair describes the effects nature has on him,

"Such things had occasionally cast a strong spell over me, especially water and fire" - Suga is fire. Jimin is water

When Sinclair wakes up after a dream:
"I thought I could dimly recall having burnt it (Sparrowhawk painting), or had I merely dreamt about burning it while holding it, and then eating the ashes?" - Reflection/Rap Mon

"Finally I found Demian. He was stripped to the waist, practicing boxing"
"We had awoken, or were waking, and we were striving for an ever more perfect state of wakefulness" - Awake/Jin

When Lady Eve tells Sinclair a story about a man who loved a woman without hope:
"sky and forest and brook, everything came to meet him in new colors" - Lie/Jimin

"Right next to my mattress was another one, with someone on it who was leaning forward and looking at me...it was Max Demian"
- Lie/Jimin/Run.


"I need only lean over the black mirror to see my own image, which now looks exactly like him (Demian) - Reflection/Rap Mon AND Awake/Jin
Source: https://aminoapps.com/c/k-pop/page/blog/bts-all-demian-quotes/bkIo_uBn7N3xNN0lB5PVE6KMjDN47J

 

[Frozenrose]

Hello Guys,
I found 2 videos. Where to see how the mc and the people behind the camera give BTS a kind of signal to make certain hand signals.

The First Video is from the Variety Show: "Running Man" EP/300 on Minute 2.17 you can see Jungkook behind the Moderator he search the right camera to make this pyriamd sign on his eye (i dont know how this sign called) than Jin looked at him and than the camera switch to jins face and jin make this sign, but if you look closely, someone on the left of jungkook gives a sign to do it.
I think it's a bit weird that everybody wanted to make that sign.

And in this Video, all of BTS looks to left and than make this one sign. I dont know if this is a illuminati sign or not, but this one sign is strange, because how there hold there fingers. I hope you know what i mean. And everybody of them make this sign. I dont know for me looks nearly the six sign.

Knows one of you, maybe all the hand signals, because i have seen many of diffrent hand signals. And i dont know if their a evil or not. And what their meaning is?

I remember this Running ma moment and was disturbed by all seeing eye/pyramid sign they did intentionally. Also at what sec in the second video is the sign appearing?

 

[tyrab]

Isn't odd how so many random corporations on Twitter tweet about BTS? Like Starbucks official Twitter account replied to a BTS fan's tweet today saying "Are you a Kookie? Because you're sweet like Suga." and Panda Express wished Taehyung a happy birthday, and I can't remember each specific company but I just recall a lot of them on twitter just completely randomly tweeting about BTS. Maybe it's just a marketing ploy because BTS twitter fans RT the shit out of anything BTS but I still feel like it's almost like all the corporations are pushing BTS with stride.

The urban dictionary is now also asking fans questions on Twitter by creating definitions about members and ships

 

[tyrab]

About pouring money everywhere like in Red Velvet bad boy mv JHope does in this video
also, this is also where V dresses up like Snow White and bites the apple and passes out at the end of the video:

 

[Josh]

This is irrelevant to the thread but I'm not sure where else to ask this. I heard there's a theory that the SK president who was impeached for having ties and being influenced by a cult, had the kids on the Sewol ferry accident sacrificed for her cult because she was president at the time. I guess this is somewhat relevant because BTS' Spring Day is about the Sewol ferry and blames the authorities and Korean society for the deaths. Does anyone know much about this?

 

[Kristina]

This industry keep being so though, pushing more new economic models ! Interesting . Pretty risky with so many Sk platforms already existing

 

[tyrab]

This industry keep being so though, pushing more new economic models ! Interesting . Pretty risky with so many Sk platforms already existing View attachment 3484
Here is a video on it:

 

[Frozenrose]

Guys, what can we do to make more people research the satanic influence in kpop? I try to do some short videos on the topic but we have to do more and popularise them in some way.
I just went to Omegle and wrote with a kpop fan asking if they think kpop is illuminati influenced. He/she ofc said no, that I have to just read theories on BTS and so on. Those kids are brainwashed and we can't leave them get more and more indoctrinated.
I'll try to chat with some more and tell them to seek Christ and the upcoming NWO. They need to hear the truth even if they ridicule it.

 

[aliahlukey]

Guys, what cn we do to make more people research the satanic influence in kpop? I try to do some short videos on the topic but we have to do more and popularise them in some way.
I just went to Omegle and wrote with a kpop fan asking if they think kpop is illuminati influenced. He/she ofc said no, that I have to just theories on BTS and so on. Those kids are brainwashed andd we can't leave them get more and more indoctrinated.
I'll try to chat with some more and tell them to seek Christ and the upcoming NWO. They need to hear the truth even if they ridicule it.

Ive done it too with Muslim kpopper. And of course they bashed me. They are so blinded by the gorgeous looking kpop guy slash puppet

 

[Frozenrose]

Ive done it too with Muslim kpopper. And of course they bashed me. They are so blinded by the gorgeous looking kpop guy slash puppet

i feel really anxious because they'll be the future generation and they'll accept those agenda as the truth. We have to do something while things are still moving. It'll get harder later when all of this is normalised. It's good that we know what's going on but it's more important to reach those that don't. If we just stay neutral we're feeding the system, right? Just keep exposing the agendas as much as possible.

 

[Frozenrose]

Suzy criticised by the press for unprofessional behaviour at recent showcase

Singer and actress Suzy may have held an entertaining showcase in Seoul recently, but for the South Korean media in attendance, it didn’t go down too well.

The event was to celebrate the release of the 25-year-old’s second mini album Faces Of Love, according to a news report by Allkpop.

It was her first solo activity after her former group Miss A’s disbandment and her breakup with actor Lee Min-ho, in December and November last year, respectively.

Naturally difficult questions were expected to be going her way, and the media members assumed that as an artiste of nine years, Suzy would have been well-prepared for them.

The reporters revealed, however, that the artiste lacked professionalism and failed to answer some of the questions, or that her answers seemed irrelevant.

For example, when asked about Miss A's disbandment, Suzy gave a vague reply saying, “It's a new challenge to me so I've prepared hard.”

She also reportedly failed to answer when she was asked to describe the type of message she wanted to portray through Faces Of Love.

She said, “Love at 25 means...” and trailed off. After a long pause, she stated, “Sorry” and ended up not finishing her earlier sentence.

The artiste seemed to have been aware of her disappointing responses, as she said, “I apologise for not giving satisfying answers.”

Following the event, the media were unforgiving and put out headlines such as “Suzy, the press will not bite or harm you” and “Was love too difficult for 25-year-old Suzy... An embarrassing comeback show.”

They also claimed that they didn’t ask harsh questions, but they said Suzy plainly failed to be professional.

To this, Netizens reacted with, “She needs to read some books and practise her speech” and “Just a pretty face with no knowledge...”.

And then they go around boasting they can compose/write their own songs. To not be even capable of presenting her work in a few words speaks for itself.

 

[Frozenrose]

The truth is- you can't really force anyone to believe anything. The best you can do is just introduce the topic to them, and leave them be. If you keep trying to force It then it might just have a counterproductive effect and make them reject the idea more.
The most important part is just planting the seed of doubt in their mind - if you plant the seed, then in the future it may grow. When they see something related to kpop and satanism again or notice something themselves - than they will remember what you said that time before.

Overall, remember that God is ultimately the one who guides people. If god wants to guide someone - then it will happen, eventually. Maybe not now, maybe in a few months, or years. But Gods plan is ultimate .
"The truth will always be there for those who seek it"

That's what I mean. - we need to give them hints. But we have to go to them first in some way, right? Tbh, I feel uneasy to go on a regular kpop forum and suggest them to do some research. From what I've seen they dismiss the idea and such questions just go down the toilet.

 

[Frozenrose]

Yea, a lot of fans just go bat shit and start attacking if you accuse kpop of anything bad.
I think most people don't take "illuminati" the word itself, seriously. It's become some kind of ridiculed joke so when people hear it they just dismiss it even though they don't actually know the depth of what it is.
So I think refraining from using that word is better - rather explaining it in another way?
Although, even if they do start replying negatively and not believing, you can always just ignore it. It's their choice whether they want to investigate or stay brainwashed. The important part is just getting the message out there, and even if just a few people start doubting kpop or investigating is impactful
enough.
And atleast we have this forum for people who are curious?

That's the problem with the words such as illuminati/satanic/concpiracy - they're portrayed as a joke.

I'm satisfied with this thread a lot but if it gets deleted it'd be a big waste since it has a lot of info collected in it. I know I sound like a pessimist but this isn't something that's impossible to happen.

 

[julisummer]

"Lawful laws, There are no Conservatives or Liberals
Anyhow the body with two arms, murder.
One government, new world order
Slaughter. No border. 2000 years of war is a fiction
It's on, son. It ain't about daydreaming or messing around
See, the global recession. Isn't it fun whenever the period recycles?
Let me see, what's on my thoughts?
That's on the top, it's a round of "jenga" game.
Demian, living only in the darkness
get get get get it kid? I pity you for living in the darkness.
(What about them, those people who has'em all? If you give explanation I will listen)
OK, I wanna earn more money (we all know that)
Ok, from a boy to a man, a man to a rich and a rich to man of power.
Those with the powers wants to play God. It's the decision that will be answered with "No, yeah" and become a slave.

I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't know, don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't wanna know. Don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. The truth, I don't wanna hear, I don't wanna hear. I don't know, I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't wanna know, I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear the truth.

You want your business, are you going to store those transactions?
You will get the Triple Six, what you don't believe me?
It's easy. Now imagine the world without any credit.
Can't buy anything nor sell any. With those invisible handcuffs,
Nevertheless, with your kind of figures it's possible
Those statistics, a slave. Okay
Now, your hands full of bills, and
Your body more convent then card s, your body becomes the card.
It'll be super fast. Even with those attitudes it will follow the orders.
If it doesn't follow the orders, just chute it in half like those defective cards.
It's simple, there just isn't enough guns to kill you and I
But there's enough money to tame us.


I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't know, I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't wanna know, I don't wanna hear the truth
I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't know, I don't wanna hear, don't wanna hear. I don't wanna know, I don't wanna hear the truth


The truth is ruthless. Toothless but fanged.
Two-faced bruteness. Roofless in the rain.
The crude taste of sane. A suitcase full of pain.
The truth is truthless. A moot case of blame."

Why does this sound like the near future and the cashless society?
Also Demian is mentioned in the song. Those "idols" are just puppets. It makes me laugh every time I hear any of then write their own lyrics(they may let them do a few but it's usually some cheesy ones). Those groups/concepts/songs have been planned way ahead of time. The more I research, the more interconnection I see.

They are becoming more and more obvious with the hints in the music industry. First the obvious references in Chanyeol's teaser that was mentioned here before and now this. The words are directly cited from the bible:
1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4And they worshipped the dragon (=Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God (="Those with the powers wants to play God") to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations (= "One government, new world order").
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell ( = "Can't buy anything nor sell any") save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name (= "your body becomes the card").
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six (="Triple Six"). - Revalation 13


It is very sad to know how many people will fall for this betrayal and follow the beast. It is very neccessary to pray for as much people as possible to be saved and tell them what's going on behind the curtains. People are so blind not to see the very obvious satanic influences in the music of their idols. Satan knows that he has not much time left and wants to seduce as many people as possible.

9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(...)
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
- Revalation 12


Therefore he uses music and idols, who seem harmless and innocent at first look, but suck you into their world more and more and then push certain agenas like war, homosexuality, new world order, drugs, narcism, sinning and more. It makes me sick how people are, for example, listening to Shinee's Lucifer and saying that the song only is about a boy falling for a girl... or watching clips like BS&T and not finding it disturbing at the slightest. They are even making fun of the cannibalism in Peek-A-Boo. It is shocking how easily people can be influences by the flashy world of their stars.

13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. - 2. Corinthans

 

[Tisane]

I'm satisfied with this thread a lot but if it gets deleted it'd be a big waste since it has a lot of info collected in it. I know I sound like a pessimist but this isn't something that's impossible to happen.

It seems on the other threads, long-term posters have mentioned this site has gone down several times prior...

its not pessimistic to consider all possible actions

@ Epik High. There's a high chance those lyrics were written by Tablo. He went to Stanford and got his MFA in Creative Writing, and was known as a brilliant lyricist/writer when Epik high was still underground.

That said, I also have no doubt he wrote those lyrics to attract mainstream attention. My epic high memory is rusty, but it is around the time this album was released that he was either signed to YG entertainment or was in talks that they were "selling out" to sign up with YG. Plus, they had started appearing in music programs, and they were making red carpet appearances here and there (and it was also around this time, he met/was working on meeting) his current wife - who since she appeared in Old Boy, he was talking about how awesome she was

 

[Frozenrose]

They are becoming more and more obvious with the hints in the music industry. First the obvious references in Chanyeol's teaser that was mentioned here before and now this. The words are directly cited from the bible:
1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
4And they worshipped the dragon (=Satan) which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
5And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
6And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God (="Those with the powers wants to play God") to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
7And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations (= "One government, new world order").
8And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
9If any man have an ear, let him hear.
10He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17And that no man might buy or sell ( = "Can't buy anything nor sell any") save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name (= "your body becomes the card").
18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six (="Triple Six"). - Revalation 13


It is very sad to know how many people will fall for this betrayal and follow the beast. It is very neccessary to pray for as much people as possible to be saved and tell them what's going on behind the curtains. People are so blind not to see the very obvious satanic influences in the music of their idols. Satan knows that he has not much time left and wants to seduce as many people as possible.

9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
(...)
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
- Revalation 12


Therefore he uses music and idols, who seem harmless and innocent at first look, but suck you into their world more and more and then push certain agenas like war, homosexuality, new world order, drugs, narcism, sinning and more. It makes me sick how people are, for example, listening to Shinee's Lucifer and saying that the song only is about a boy falling for a girl... or watching clips like BS&T and not finding it disturbing at the slightest. They are even making fun of the cannibalism in Peek-A-Boo. It is shocking how easily people can be influences by the flashy world of their stars.

13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. - 2. Corinthans

AMEN!

It seems on the other threads, long-term posters have mentioned this site has gone down several times prior...

its not pessimistic to consider all possible actions

@ Epik High. There's a high chance those lyrics were written by Tablo. He went to Stanford and got his MFA in Creative Writing, and was known as a brilliant lyricist/writer when Epik high was still underground.

That said, I also have no doubt he wrote those lyrics to attract mainstream attention. My epic high memory is rusty, but it is around the time this album was released that he was either signed to YG entertainment or was in talks that they were "selling out" to sign up with YG. Plus, they had started appearing in music programs, and they were making red carpet appearances here and there (and it was also around this time, he met/was working on meeting) his current wife - who since she appeared in Old Boy, he was talking about how awesome she was

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The lyrics of Epik High look recycled to those of foreign musicians that present themselves as the opposition/the one speaking the truth. RM reminds me a lot of Tablo when it comes to this. RM also repeats "recycled philosophy" and to fans who don't think out of the box it seems as he's a genius/ the innovator in this generation of kpop.

 

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The lyrics of Epik High look recycled to those of foreign musicians that present themselves as the opposition/the one speaking the truth. RM reminds me a lot of Tablo when it comes to this. RM also repeats "recycled philosophy" and to fans who don't think out of the box it seems as he's a genius/ the innovator in this generation of kpop.

I'm all for creating a new platform, personally. The language and attitudes on this forum overall.... are kinda ick.

I looked a little bit at their discography. [e] came out in 2009, and then one of their members went off to the military - he came back in 2011, and in 2012, they signed with YG. I think their first three albums were the ones that hit political and socioeconomic topics, the other ones probably followed suit, but their music became more and more hip "pop" music - Almost like how Block B & San E roll out their poppy love songs left and right. Purely for the paycheck.

Looking now at their history, they were probably courting their markets all along - edgy socio-angst for the underground (plus they had an actual "american" who both "knew" US hip hop culture, and had the pedigree of an elite institution - w/siblings of the same). Narratives both in Korean and English (esp with the rising popularity afterschools were getting and hagwons - english academies - opening up everywhere ). At the same point, there wasn't any money or endorsements underground, so they toned down to almost electronica/indie sounds while working their way to smooth ballad pop. They did certainly sell out, they sold out well ~ and their position as musical propagandists is cemented.