Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[lee_]

My parents have told me that these artists have NO control of what happens until they are at GDRAGON's level (of course they didn't use GD, but I'm using the KPOP equivalence of what I was told) So, they are controlled in all aspects. So, with this being said, I feel that he may have been mind controlled along with other idols at the beginning of his career. Whether or not they are still mind control at a higher level Im not sure- but I believe they are. I believe that idols are truly being controlled completely, from the beginning of their career until the end.

I know it probably won't make sense, but I feel like most idols are indeed under mind control. Atleast, so they can control the way they act for the public. Being a KPOP idol, you have to act a certain way and appeal to fans, so I feel like these companies may use mind control so they can keep up with a certain image. When it comes to pushing the agenda as heavily as the top stars do, I feel that the artist will probably have to reach a certain level of fame? Anyone can correct me, but I think they may not feel it necessary to use idols who can't even hold fanmeets to push their agenda. So I think that once the group is at BTOB's level, is when they'll start pushing the agenda to the point that it's obnoxious.

I also wonder if Jonghyun knew, or if BTS and Jin know of his possible death? I can't imagine someone would sit still if they knew they were going to be killed. One of these idols would surely speak out, right? Tons of western celebrities did, so I wonder why they won't say anything. Maybe they are under such heavy mind control that they can't speak out and are being forced to just wait until it occurs. I don't know.

To be honest, I don't think it's a Korean entertainment culture to speak out. The celebrities can't even openly tell public who they are dating, especially when their partners are non celebrities. Back on topic, the elites probably have threatened them before they could even speak out. Those people are capable of ruining the celebs' lives in just a split second. You see what's happening to those ex SM artists? None of them can appear on music programs anymore cause SM banned them. Knowing how powerful the agency is, those programs just have to obey whatever SM says or their lives will be ruined too. Basically, once you're out of their control, you're free but you're ruined. They can threaten to murder your friends or family too, who knows. When you're under mind control, it's gonna take a lot of struggle to break free and the process just won't be completed if you're still under their control. They will notice what you're trying to do and if they feel like it's time to execute, they will try to do everything to break you down and make it feel like you're the problem here and not the system. That's probably what they did to Jonghyun.

 

[lee_]

Very similar to Taemin’s doors. He even performed it at MAMA

Speaking of Taemin, he's been giving off weird vibes lately. Like dark, dark vibes. Wtf even is this???

Also, there's something unsettling about the rhythm of this song. Listen to the intro and it's like some ritual chanting (???) Idk anymore.

He recently debuted in Japan as an actor for a drama titled "Final Life". This is the detail of his character:
Song Shi-On (Tae Min) is a smart guy. He graduated from a top medical school in the United States. He happily spends time with his girlfriend, but an experiment on his brain causes him to lose his memory.

He also recorded a soundtrack for the drama in which he's singing about "the final dragon" that calls out to his name like a siren that cuts through a middle of the night lol.

– Awaken and become the final dragon –
Yes, the final dragon

Like a siren that cuts through the still of the night
Your voice calls out my name
Inside the thick fog shrouding everything
I hastily run about, pushing my way through
No one would want to lose himself now
It’s not that it’s not scary, and yet I go on

Before your faint voice fades away
I go to where you are​

 

[julisummer]

My parents have told me that these artists have NO control of what happens until they are at GDRAGON's level (of course they didn't use GD, but I'm using the KPOP equivalence of what I was told) So, they are controlled in all aspects. So, with this being said, I feel that he may have been mind controlled along with other idols at the beginning of his career. Whether or not they are still mind control at a higher level Im not sure- but I believe they are. I believe that idols are truly being controlled completely, from the beginning of their career until the end.

I know it probably won't make sense, but I feel like most idols are indeed under mind control. Atleast, so they can control the way they act for the public. Being a KPOP idol, you have to act a certain way and appeal to fans, so I feel like these companies may use mind control so they can keep up with a certain image. When it comes to pushing the agenda as heavily as the top stars do, I feel that the artist will probably have to reach a certain level of fame? Anyone can correct me, but I think they may not feel it necessary to use idols who can't even hold fanmeets to push their agenda. So I think that once the group is at BTOB's level, is when they'll start pushing the agenda to the point that it's obnoxious.

I also wonder if Jonghyun knew, or if BTS and Jin know of his possible death? I can't imagine someone would sit still if they knew they were going to be killed. One of these idols would surely speak out, right? Tons of western celebrities did, so I wonder why they won't say anything. Maybe they are under such heavy mind control that they can't speak out and are being forced to just wait until it occurs. I don't know.

Thanks for your reply. I still don't get how they are controlled? How are they manipulated by the Entertainments?
Can't they just be acting the way they do in order to appeal the masses and because they are afraid of the concequences if they don't live up to the expectations? Does it really have to be MK Ultra? (I always thought of Nicki Minaj with her multiple personalities as an example of a person being mind controlled, not, for instance a rookie, who simple does what he is told in order to make it big in the industry, because he is easily exchangable if he doesn't follow the rules (there once was an interview with a former SM trainee who told that there where punishments for those, who did mistakes or didn't show improvement. At the end of every week all the trainees had to reflect upon their mistakes during an 1-hour-meditation. Jonghyun stated that he used to cry a lot during his trainee days when he made mistakes and suffered under an infirority complex which endured until the end. - or is this way to treat the idols already mind control?)
Furthermore i don't understand at what point an artist starts to push a certain agenda himself (and willingly) by writing and producing music, when the music he did before was "normal" .

And why did Jonghyun himself talk about his depression and lacking energy to live on in various interviews? Did he think to die was his own decision (and the industry just took advantage of his severe depression)?

Maybe the idols are afraid to say something because they are afraid of the consequences and public reaction. Korea is known for it's high pressure society where you get easily criticized if you state your opinion on controversial themes. Mental illnesses aren't taken seriously. People simply ignore them. The idols know that the concurrence is massive and every scandal might be the end of their carriere. Just look at what happened to JYJ.

 

[presenttense]

Obama mentioned SHINee in his speech in July this year at the 8th Asian Leadership Conference and this is what he said:
"Some of our young people in America have even learned to speak some Korean so they can keep up with the band SHINee. In exchange, I understand SHINee has developed a passion for America's In-N-Out Burgers."

It's so weird that he had to mention a specific group rather than Kpop in general, and SHINee wasn't even that popular. I mean the popularity has been outshined by younger, newer groups. Even in SM, SHINee was surely not on top of the list anymore. There's a theory that Obama was secretly a Shawol, but I am not buying it. If anything, he should have mentioned BTS instead cause they're more popular.

This edited video of SHINee and Obama makes it even weirder cause it's like Jonghyun made Obama chant the "SHINee" word lol
https://twitter.com/cupoftaem/status/882199339715575808

As big as shinee is as a kpop band its weird that obama would name drop shinee when bigbang, BTS and exo have made larger impacts abroad and in korea as well as have larger fanbases in both america and korea. Him bringing shinee up felt so odd and out of place.

 

[jewels]

Speaking of Taemin, he's been giving off weird vibes lately. Like dark, dark vibes. Wtf even is this???

Also, there's something unsettling about the rhythm of this song. Listen to the intro and it's like some ritual chanting (???) Idk anymore.

He recently debuted in Japan as an actor for a drama titled "Final Life". This is the detail of his character:
Song Shi-On (Tae Min) is a smart guy. He graduated from a top medical school in the United States. He happily spends time with his girlfriend, but an experiment on his brain causes him to lose his memory.

He also recorded a soundtrack for the drama in which he's singing about "the final dragon" that calls out to his name like a siren that cuts through a middle of the night lol.

– Awaken and become the final dragon –
Yes, the final dragon

Like a siren that cuts through the still of the night
Your voice calls out my name
Inside the thick fog shrouding everything
I hastily run about, pushing my way through
No one would want to lose himself now
It’s not that it’s not scary, and yet I go on

Before your faint voice fades away
I go to where you are​

SM’s artists have been getting very dark. Honestly I feel like the only artists that aren’t dark are SNSD and NCT Dream.
EXO have been dark from the beginning, NCT 127 get darker and darker each comeback and like I said before.. their music is strange, because when I listen to it I feel I’m being put into a trance. I believe NCT 127 May take over EXO’s spot when it comes to pushing the creepy agenda pretty soon. Plus with all of the units, I’m pretty sure SM are going to have units in most corners of the world in the next few years.
But Taemin always had a very light personality to me. He debuted when he was young and innocent, and he’s definitely changed. Whether it be because of age or a much more sinister influence, he’s gotten dark.

 

[jewels]

As big as shinee is as a kpop band its weird that obama would name drop shinee when bigbang, BTS and exo have made larger impacts abroad and in korea as well as have larger fanbases in both america and korea. Him bringing shinee up felt so odd and out of place.

SHINee have already made their peek. The group members have gone on to focus on solo careers. BTS are not even at their peek and they’re already so famous, so I’m surprised it was SHINee too.

 

[presenttense]

How can you know if a person is unter MK Ultra or is simply acting a certain way because of the pressure of the industry ( for example making use of special symbilism on photos, depicting rituals in MVs/VCR/ Music shows). Or if some of them are actually aware of what they are doing. For example I fee that G-Dragon, who writes many of Bigbangs songs himself, seems to be more conscious about what he is doing/ promoting in his songs, since he has a bigger impact on the production (Fantastic Baby, Monster, Coup D'etat).
Is he being mind controlled or is it his decision to take that path to gain more success?
Jonghyun, on the other side, wrote mostly "innocent" songs, while the songs made by SM where full of symbomism (RDD, Lucifer, Everybody,...)

Another question I ask myself a lot is at which point of their carriere are stars getting mind controlled (already since trainee days?/ what about american stars then?) and how does that happen? Do they have to visit certain sessions or is it happening more unconciosly? And when is the point reached when they are actually talking about "having sould their souls" (conscious decision? Pressure? MK?)

Could Jonghyun for instance be mindcontrolled to take the actions he did or where people only taking advantage of his mental state and depression and push him further through the "doctor". (Or was it himself who hinted at his death in his MV/VCR/ letter/ not realeased songs or was he actually pushed to do so?)

Could Jin be aware of him being treated differently as a hint for his possible death in future?

Mk ultra signs
- eyelid drooping or constant twichting
- looking spaced out for long periods of time
- not remembering things
- having split personas ( ie nicki minajs roman and barbie personas)
- mental breakdowns could be a sign
- immune to violence
- mk ultra can cause individuals to develop mental health issues like depression and paranoia

 

[julisummer]

To be honest, I don't think it's a Korean entertainment culture to speak out. The celebrities can't even openly tell public who they are dating, especially when their partners are non celebrities. Back on topic, the elites probably have threatened them before they could even speak out. Those people are capable of ruining the celebs' lives in just a split second. You see what's happening to those ex SM artists? None of them can appear on music programs anymore cause SM banned them. Knowing how powerful the agency is, those programs just have to obey whatever SM says or their lives will be ruined too. Basically, once you're out of their control, you're free but you're ruined. They can threaten to murder your friends or family too, who knows. When you're under mind control, it's gonna take a lot of struggle to break free and the process just won't be completed if you're still under their control. They will notice what you're trying to do and if they feel like it's time to execute, they will try to do everything to break you down and make it feel like you're the problem here and not the system. That's probably what they did to Jonghyun.

The things you point out make sense. In his last interviews Jonghyun often pointed out that he wanted to show his real personality not just the idealized version of himself. Furthermore he stated that he himself needed to be satisfied with his music and didn't want to produce music only to appeal to the masses. He once said that he was a persin with big self-dignity and therefore it was hard for him to lie to himself and to others. BUT still he suffered from his inferiority complex and was always comparing his success to the success of others. Also he mentioned how much it hurt him that people where only seeing him the way they wanted and would judge him without knowing him. He wanted to overcome those barriers (and to become happy and free) by opening up about his struggles more and more and talking about controversial issues. Maybe that was already a thorn in the eye of the industry - he was a person who was trying to break out of the role he was originally given.

But I still don't understand in what way he might be mind controlled? And why did he talk about losing memories in his last letter? is there any connection?

 

[Maggieca]

I think there will be a sacrifice in BTS, if its not a sacrifice then it will be some major even that will leave an impact in the kpop industry

Why? because their success is not normal, something about them is different
Their whole concept was planed since their debut, even the name of their songs. Nothing about this group is a coincidence

And for me the 3 main candidates are :
Jin- Because of all the clues in the music videos that point to him (kiss of death, etc)
V- People close to him died in a short period of time: His grandma, then his friend and now he tweets his dog name the same day Jonghyun dies for that same reason.
Jimin- I already talked about his numerology wich makes him special because he is a master number (11) born on friday the 13th , the company also calls him the 3:33 guy because they always put him on that part of the music videos (since debut)

I also think the solo songs of these members (stigma, lie and Awake) are the songs with the most important meaning on the Wings album

I remember this psychic on youtube who said she couldnt do a reading on BTS because they have so much energy it was basically impossible for her( lool I dont really believe in the psychic thing but I think the energy thing is intersting)

 

[presenttense]

western celebrities have said that the illuminati does exist and controls the American entertainment indusry like comedian kat williams and others, but I have yet to hear anyone in the korean entertainment industry speak out or admit to it.

 

[jewels]

Thanks for your reply. I still don't get how they are controlled? How are they manipulated by the Entertainments?
Can't they just be acting the way they do in order to appeal the masses and because they are afraid of the concequences if they don't live up to the expectations? Does it really have to be MK Ultra? (I always thought of Nicki Minaj with her multiple personalities as an example of a person being mind controlled, not, for instance a rookie, who simple does what he is told in order to make it big in the industry, because he is easily exchangable if he doesn't follow the rules (there once was an interview with a former SM trainee who told that there where punishments for those, who did mistakes or didn't show improvement. At the end of every week all the trainees had to reflect upon their mistakes during an 1-hour-meditation. Jonghyun stated that he used to cry a lot during his trainee days when he made mistakes and suffered under an infirority complex which endured until the end. - or is this way to treat the idols already mind controll?)
Furthermore i don't understand at what point an artist starts to push a certain agenda himself (and willingly) by writing and producing music, when the music he did before was "normal" .

And why did Jonghyun himself talk about his depression and lacking energy to live on in various interviews? Did he think to die was his own decision (and the industry just took advantage of his severe depression)?

Maybe the idols are afraid to say something because they are afraid of the consequences and public reaction. Korea is known for it's high pressure society where you get easily criticized if you state your opinion on controversial themes. Mental illnesses aren't taken seriously. People simply ignore them. The idols know that the concurrence is massive and every scandal might be the end of their carriere. Just look at what happened to JYJ.

He could have been pushed to suicide and just didn’t know it.

I think there will be a sacrifice in BTS, if its not a sacrifice then it will be some major even that will leave an impact in the kpop industry

Why? because their success is not normal, something about them is different
Their whole concept was planed since their debut, even the name of their songs. Nothing about this group is a coincidence

And for me the 3 main candidates are :
Jin- Because of all the clues in the music videos that point to him (kiss of death, etc)
V- People close to him died in a short period of time: His grandma, then his friend and now he tweets his dog name the same day Jonghyun dies for that same reason.
Jimin- I already talked about his numerology wich makes him special because he is a master number (11) born on friday the 13th , the company also calls him the 3:33 guy because they always put him on that part of the music videos (since debut)

I also think the solo songs of these members (stigma, lie and Awake) are the songs with the most important meaning on the Wings album

I remember this psychic on youtube who said she couldnt do a reading on BTS because they have so much energy it was basically impossible for her( lool I dont really believe in the psychic thing but I think the energy thing is intersting)

i think it’ll be Jin. I think that perhaps V made the sacrifices for the group’s success, as he had two people close to him die. I don’t think they’ll sacfrice Jimin, instead I believe he may have a very successful solo career. Think Rain, G- Dragon. I believe Jin May be the group’s sacrifice for BTS to achieve the highest level of worldwide success. A Grammy, stadium tours in America, etc. Not sure when it’ll happen, but I predict a Grammy nomination for 2019 so I feel it’ll happen before then.

Edit: I wanted to discuss further why I think it’ll be Jimin. He is loved in both Asia and internationally, as he has been since the very beiginning. Despite not being the main dancer, he always receives credits for being so. He is adored by KPOP idols, of all ages and especially rookies. He’s like the golden idol (I don’t mean to use golden but couldn’t think of a better word to use.)

Jonghyun also has these characteristics, but I don’t think they’ll sacrifice Jimin. I think they’ll instead choose to use him until they can’t use him any more, especially since it appears he’s already on track with pushing the agenda. His solo songs are very strong, in my opinion much different than the rest. He seems like he’s going to be BIGHIT’s token.

 

[presenttense]

V is under heavy MK ultra so he's being controlled there for he won't be a problem to the occult/illuminati unless he breaks down . Jin on the other hand is a lose cannon to them and has been more blatant than the others members about his distaste of the path the group is going down. (ie looking unhappy abroad, looking sad at concerts) if anyone goes in BTS its him. Yeri and Jin are looking the most likely to be offed next by the satanic-elite/illuminati/occult.

 

[jewels]

V is under heavy MK ultra so he's being controlled there for he won't be a problem to the occult/illuminati unless he breaks down . Jin on the other hand is a lose cannon to them and has been more blatant than the others members about his distaste of the path the group is going down. (ie looking unhappy abroad, looking sad at concerts) if anyone goes in BTS its him. Yeri and Jin are looking the most likely to be offed next by the satanic-elite/illuminati/occult.

I’m avtually surprised they don’t want to use jin and his dad. I would imagine they would want to so bighit could merge into business and politics like YG

 

[lee_]

The things you point out make sense. In his last interviews Jonghyun often pointed out that he wanted to show his real personality not just the idealized version of himself. Furthermore he stated that he himself needed to be satisfied with his music and didn't want to produce music only to appeal to the masses. He once said that he was a persin with big self-dignity and therefore it was hard for him to lie to himself and to others. BUT still he suffered from his inferiority complex and was always comparing his success to the success of others. Also he mentioned how much it hurt him that people where only seeing him the way they wanted and would judge him without knowing him. He wanted to overcome those barriers (and to become happy and free) by opening up about his struggles more and more and talking about controversial issues. Maybe that was already a thorn in the eye of the industry - he was a person who was trying to break out of the role he was originally given.

But I still don't understand in what way he might be mind controlled? And why did he talk about losing memories in his last letter? is there any connection?

western celebrities have said that the illuminati does exist and controls the American entertainment indusry like comedian kat williams and others, but I have yet to hear anyone in the korean entertainment industry speak out or admit to it.

I think there are different methods for different cultures in mind control. What's suitable for the American entertainment industry may not be suitable for the Korean one, but they are basically the same. The outcomes are the same, the purposes are the same. They may be connected with each other even though the line is so thin, it's almost invisible that ordinary people like us can't see it. What I know is that this order comes from the same boss. "Order out of chaos" just can't happen if they dont' cooperate or aren't connected in some way. Here's what Stephen Sondheim has to say about the connection of art and "Order out of chaos":

We will never be so sure in what way they mind control their artists in Korea. However, it's undeniable that the training itself is a form of torture. Unlike in the western entertainment industry, in Korea even their personalities are assigned by their agencies so that they can't act or look out of it and they have to stick with it for the rest of their lives. We know that Kpop artists tend to change concepts every time they make a comeback, and I think it's hard enough for them to keep up with the new personalities they have to create. There have been so many examples of groups that changed their concept from innocent and cute to dark and brave. I believe even they don't really have total control on their so called "solo debuts", that's probably what Jonghyun was talking about when he said that he wanted to make his own music.

 

[julisummer]

Speaking of Taemin, he's been giving off weird vibes lately. Like dark, dark vibes. Wtf even is this???

Also, there's something unsettling about the rhythm of this song. Listen to the intro and it's like some ritual chanting (???) Idk anymore.

He recently debuted in Japan as an actor for a drama titled "Final Life". This is the detail of his character:
Song Shi-On (Tae Min) is a smart guy. He graduated from a top medical school in the United States. He happily spends time with his girlfriend, but an experiment on his brain causes him to lose his memory.

He also recorded a soundtrack for the drama in which he's singing about "the final dragon" that calls out to his name like a siren that cuts through a middle of the night lol.

– Awaken and become the final dragon –
Yes, the final dragon

Like a siren that cuts through the still of the night
Your voice calls out my name
Inside the thick fog shrouding everything
I hastily run about, pushing my way through
No one would want to lose himself now
It’s not that it’s not scary, and yet I go on

Before your faint voice fades away
I go to where you are​

Ever since Taemin's debut I had the feeling of him being very suspicious. He started of with a single called "Danger" (just read the lyrics). The concept of "Sayonara Hitori" was even more creepy. Taemin himself mentioned that it was about waking his inner demons (or something like that). Also Taemin is placed in a coffin in that clip.
"Move" became famous because of the androgynous vibes it gives... Compared to Jonghyun we can clearly see that he is more easily to be pushed to propagandate a certain agenda.

 

[presenttense]

satanic symbolism insta posts:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BdSe7o7jYxe/?hl=en
(hyuna throwing up the devil horns with one eye symbolism)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BbdqvgGggT3/?hl=en&taken-by=yoongibts
(Yoongi one eye)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BLGuzMnj9Qh/?hl=en&taken-by=bts.bighitofficial
(in the bathtub meaning satanic baptism)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcD5EOfgMr7/?hl=en&taken-by=btsjimin
(again, one eye symbolism)
https://www.instagram.com/p/BcD5EOfgMr7/?hl=en&taken-by=btsjimin

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Basically, i think that bigbang and CL and the producers at yg know of the illuminati and their influence. But they rather seem to not care. The fame has reached them as mention by someone in the older post. So they don' care as long as they have fame. They will continue to despise themselves, their band ates, and the public as long as they have the two magical belongings- FAME and FORTUNE.

Plus about kpop/pop music/movies/celebs etc bringing us away from God. Well this is very true and must have been experienced by all of us at some point of time. We lest care about ourselves and continue to be obsessed with these celebs who actually don' even know of our existence? This is very gullible tbh. And we call them "idols"! If not the word itself rings a bell. This actually shows our position as worthless humans. Cause we love our own little shell, we are not ready to show ourselves to the world confidently and continue staying in our comfort zone as cowards. This affect can be already seen in our younger generation.

I actually has experienced a lot of what here the members have said about kpop, when I first come to kpop in 2014, I become much less interested in my religion(Buddhism), and it has increased as less and less, till I felt the alarm has ringed the bell, my whole life has become just revolving around kpop, like others has also said here, I went with this experience, when I lefted kpop in 2015, it was huge relief and happiness like my life has come back again, I thought its due to my personality that I ended up in this way, but seeing many actually saying that, then clearly kpop have something do to with it, but may be not all people though has experienced this thing

 

[presenttense]

I’m avtually surprised they don’t want to use jin and his dad. I would imagine they would want to so bighit could merge into business and politics like YG

Perhaps jins father is protecting him from it because of his power.

 

[Kas]

Who is Jin's father btw?

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

I think there are different methods for different cultures in mind control. What's suitable for the American entertainment industry may not be suitable for the Korean one, but they are basically the same. The outcomes are the same, the purposes are the same. They may be connected with each other even though the line is so thin, it's almost invisible that ordinary people like us can't see it. What I know is that this order comes from the same boss. "Order out of chaos" just can't happen if they dont' cooperate or aren't connected in some way. Here's what Stephen Sondheim has to say about the connection of art and "Order out of chaos":

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I think Jaejoong has speak about it once time, when he said there is an unjust system behind the scene that people can't see​