Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

[SHinEeHeaven]

I personally think that Jonghyun was depressed but died not from suicide but from being sacrificed. I saw the last footage of him in the convenience store and instead of looking depressed he looked in fear for his life. I wonder who killed him? obviously, members of the Illuminati/occult but I wish i knew the name/names. a fellow high ranking Korean idol(s)? a high ranking kpop producer? a high ranking politician? one of his own bandmates? (which I do not by any means want to believe) I just want to know who. who were the bystanders/witnesses? if there were any at his sacrifice?

'one of his own bandmates?"
No way, the one who killed him is probably his handler
I wish also to talk to the one who take picture of Jonghyun in the balcony, they may know something

 

[presenttense]

'one of his own bandmates?"
No way, the one who killed him is probably his handler
I wish also to talk to the one who take picture of Jonghyun in the balcony, they may know something

Maybe his doctor who was rumoured to be his handler killed him? the paprazzi always know more then they let on. Yeah I really don't think and don't want to believe it was one of the other members because shinee were one of the tightest kpop groups out there.

 

[lee_]

'one of his own bandmates?"
No way, the one who killed him is probably his handler
I wish also to talk to the one who take picture of Jonghyun in the balcony, they may know something

Yup, it's also possible for him to be "suicided" by someone from the same company as his. It can be anyone, the elites of SM Entertainment itself, or his other bandmates (no name dropping cause I also feel bad if it's true). The motive of the sacrifice doesn't always have to be rivalry, though I agree that BTS is really suspicious. The rivalry can happen too inside the same group, there was a discussion about it before. Or maybe SM wants to beat Big Hit Entertainment so bad that they have to sacrifice someone from the company in order to gain more success? Cause surely now, the world's attention has turned to SM, even though some may think that they're evil for treating Jonghyun badly that he killed himself, there must be something SM can gain from the newly directed attention right? Now anything with Jonghyun in it, like photo cards, songs, or his novel (he wrote a novel, by the way) are being looked into. Don't forget the new song with Jonghyun in it, that's planned to be released today 6 PM KST and his new album that hasn't been released yet. With the AI celebrities planned, they can just recreate an AI version of Jonghyun and people will certainly pay to "be with him again" even though it's just digital. Who knows.

 

[presenttense]

I'm glad I found this thread. Red velvet during there peekaboo promotions are often spotted wearing the satanic color trio red, white and black for there costumes. also look at this:

Same red paper crown and similar dress to satanist Gaga.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Yup, it's also possible for him to be "suicided" by someone from the same company as his. It can be anyone, the elites of SM Entertainment itself, or his other bandmates (no name dropping cause I also feel bad if it's true). The motive of the sacrifice doesn't always have to be rivalry, though I agree that BTS is really suspicious. The rivalry can happen too inside the same group, there was a discussion about it before. Or maybe SM wants to beat Big Hit Entertainment so bad that they have to sacrifice someone from the company in order to gain more success? Cause surely now, the world's attention has turned to SM, even though some may think that they're evil for treating Jonghyun badly that he killed himself, there must be something SM can gain from the newly directed attention right? Now anything with Jonghyun in it, like photo cards, songs, or his novel (he wrote a novel, by the way) are being looked into. Don't forget the new song with Jonghyun in it, that's planned to be released today 6 PM KST and his new album that hasn't been released yet. With the AI celebrities planned, they can just recreate an AI version of Jonghyun and people will certainly pay to "be with him again" even though it's just digital. Who knows.

I don't think there is any possibility that his band mate is any way related to his death, it is pure business related to SM with BigHit, and I am almost sure that BTS have things to do with JongHyun.
as it is disgusting sounded, the Al celebrities thing, its looks like it was an important factor that drive SM to sacrifice one of their artist for BTS as a deal between the BigHit with SM and the Illuminati who wanted a celebrity to be sacrificed for BTS success, and I also think for the olympic games in korea

 

[presenttense]

Joy is the only one with a gemstone on her crown. All of them have matching butterflies, but there's a spider right next to Joy. She also has a serious look in her face, others are surprised.

Here's she wearing black and white, while others are in red.

Her hoodie is blue, others have pink or colorful ones.
In the "One of These Nights" MV (which is about the Sewol Ferry tragedy), Joy is dressed in black and was the only one who survived.

Now flash forward to the peekaboo promotion were wendy's outfits are different from the rest.

 

[Thoughts]

I don't think there is any possibility that his band mate is any way related to his death, it is pure business related to SM with BigHit, and I am almost sure that BTS have things to do with JongHyun.
as it is disgusting sounded, the Al celebrities thing, its looks like it was an important factor that drive SM to sacrifice one of their artist for BTS as a deal between the BigHit with SM and the Illuminati who wanted a celebrity to be sacrificed for BTS success, and I also think for the olympic games in korea

Why for olympic games?

 

[lee_]

When I remember that the police took hours to get to Jonghyun's place it reminded me of when it took an ambulance hours to get Princess Diana to a hospital. What was happening in the hours of delay in both situations? so fishy and dark.

I read somewhere that the police went to his apartment first but he wasn’t there. They had to use GPS to eventually find his location, that's why it took so long. It makes sense cause no one knew about the apartment he rented, though it doesn't take out all the chance for foul play from happening at that time.

I'm glad I found this thread. Red velvet during there peekaboo promotions are often spotted wearing the satanic color trio red, white and black for there costumes. also look at this:

Same red paper crown and similar dress to satanist Gaga.

Some people may argue that their name is "Red Velvet", so it's acceptable for them to wear all-red dresses. Well, meh. I came across this thread on allkpop, but of course everyone there took it as a joke:

"i researched something about their concepts. And i found something really gory. It's not about Halloween-esque vampire kind of things but something scarier than that. They played satanic witchcraft message since their debut. Remember when their first mv happiness scandal that had pictures/symbolism of 9/11 and japan nuclear bomb accident that made people so angry?

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Many of theorist community sid that 9/11 accident was the sacrifice ritual. And in the second song be natural, they dancing on the chair. Dancing in the chair is the form of satan worshiping in church of satan (you could check it on YouTube). In the automatic they put subliminal message about hypnotise or something with weird eerie video. And ice cream cake is the song about teens seducing men to make love with them (i scream you scream give me give ice cream/ i'm sure cream is spearm). In one of these nights they potraying terrible accident of sewol ferry (why you would made video song about terrible tragedy and made profit of it for your own??), in russian roulette, they want to kill each other for fun.

In Rookie they go to another world via portal from dressing room. It has ambigious meaning because they presented it with colorful things. The other world is usually identical with unseen world that sometimes have mystical things happen there. Red flavor you can read about the lyrics, In peek a boo they did satanic hand sign 666.And they wear scarlet dress with red crown. Women with scarlet dress and crown is usually slave that worshiping satan. And i search their new other songs in their perfect velvet album that i found song titled "Kingdom Come" and i got shocked. Because every satanists that ever existed in this planet are waiting their true messiah aka lucifer come to this world and build his kingdom here.​

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I read the lyrics and it suit my expectation. They said they waited him in their dream. I mean it is so scary. Why these beautiful girls have to do these. And the more i think, the more i understand why they added Yeri. Yeri was completed the formation of star of satan. You need five point/person to form that star sign. Fyi There are rumours that Red velvet was actually 12 members group but sm choose only 5 of them to debut. I don't know what's happened but it seem fishy and now i understand why."
https://www.allkpop.com/forum/threads/are-people-taking-their-red-velvet-theories-too-far.119045/

 

[jewels]

then do you guys have any explanation for why it was Jonghyun? Jonghyun had a pretty much clean reputation, he was loved by all and certainly an important part of SHINee as their lead vocalist and writer. There were even theories before his death that Onew would be the one because of his scandal that certainly tainted his reputation. He was dropped from the show that he was in, and he had been pretty much hidden since the incident occurred. I even read some people say that he should have left the group. Not saying ANY of them should be victim of this, but wouldn't you think SM would kill two birds in one stone ANYWAY since the public had been shunning him and hurting SHINee's name? That seems more of their style.

 

[presenttense]

Ceremonies like the Olympic games which korea is hosting soon, the Oscars, and other big events are prominent days for sacrifices to happen. for example on the day of the opening ceremonies for the Olympics in Tokyo in 1964 was the same day Queen Elizabeth and her husband kidnapped first nations children at a residential school in Canada and killed them in a satanic ritual. there was an eyewitness who survived that was killed for coming out and sharing this information.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Why for olympic games?

I don't have an actual evidence for olympic games, but I have learned before that usually before big event like olympic games, they sacrifice people, so when the news of jonghyun death came, the first thing I thought about is olympic games

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

then do you guys have any explanation for why it was Jonghyun? Jonghyun had a pretty much clean reputation, he was loved by all and certainly an important part of SHINee as their lead vocalist and writer. There were even theories before his death that Onew would be the one because of his scandal that certainly tainted his reputation. He was dropped from the show that he was in, and he had been pretty much hidden since the incident occurred. I even read some people say that he should have left the group. Not saying ANY of them should be victim of this, but wouldn't you think SM would kill two birds in one stone ANYWAY since the public had been shunning him and hurting SHINee's name? That seems more of their style.

I am not sure why it was Jonghyun, but they chooses him way back before Onew so called scandal(bcz I believe its fake scripted scandal) lol....I believe they chooses him since Ring Ding Dong, and usually their method of choosing sacrifice is based on numerology for what I have heard

 

[jewels]

I am not sure why it was Jonghyun, but they chooses him way back before Onew so called scandal(bcz I believe its fake scripted scandal) lol....I believe they chooses him since Ring Ding Dong, and usually their method of choosing sacrifice is based on numerology for what I have heard

Okay. BTS debuted after ring ding dong, and big hit wasn't a threat to SM at that time, so I don't think the argument that he was sacrificed for BTS would really make sense in that situation. I think I saw someone else say they believed he was chosen in the same era? I can't remember if it was you or not.. Wasn't he wearing a different ring?

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Okay. BTS debuted after ring ding dong, and big hit wasn't a threat to SM at that time, so I don't think the argument that he was sacrificed for BTS would really make sense in that situation. I think I saw someone else say they believed he was chosen in the same era? I can't remember if it was you or not.. Wasn't he wearing a different ring?

he was having different color wing, and its not me who says that in that previous post
as we already know, Kpop is fake and everything in it scripted and planned way back, so I think the BTS success have been already planned way back

 

[lee_]

then do you guys have any explanation for why it was Jonghyun? Jonghyun had a pretty much clean reputation, he was loved by all and certainly an important part of SHINee as their lead vocalist and writer. There were even theories before his death that Onew would be the one because of his scandal that certainly tainted his reputation. He was dropped from the show that he was in, and he had been pretty much hidden since the incident occurred. I even read some people say that he should have left the group. Not saying ANY of them should be victim of this, but wouldn't you think SM would kill two birds in one stone ANYWAY since the public had been shunning him and hurting SHINee's name? That seems more of their style.

In my opinion, I think they want to shock the mass. They want to cause hysteria and sadness cause of how unexpected it is. Worse, they want other people/fans to copycat what he did, it's called the Werther effect; a spike of emulation suicides after a widely publicized suicide. If the rumors are true, it also means they want to sacrifice more people. People remember him as a kind, warm hearted person with no issues at all, so when the news broke out, it caused overwhelming feelings of frustration and sadness. I imagine if it was Onew, the effect wouldn't be as great. Sure, some people would feel sorry for ever disrespecting him, but some would think that he deserved it and he really was dumb to commit suicide. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's possible. Besides, if the rumors are true also about SM sacrificing him, they can gain a lot from Jonghyun and not Onew. People will still look up to Jonghyun's works (cause he made a lot, plus he's the main singer) and not Onew's.

 

[Tisane]

then do you guys have any explanation for why it was Jonghyun? Jonghyun had a pretty much clean reputation, he was loved by all and certainly an important part of SHINee as their lead vocalist and writer. There were even theories before his death that Onew would be the one because of his scandal that certainly tainted his reputation. He was dropped from the show that he was in, and he had been pretty much hidden since the incident occurred. I even read some people say that he should have left the group. Not saying ANY of them should be victim of this, but wouldn't you think SM would kill two birds in one stone ANYWAY since the public had been shunning him and hurting SHINee's name? That seems more of their style.

I would have thought onew as well - the stress of it all breaking through/out of the nicely wrapped SM packing. Jonghyun tho is purer, definitely hot (as in marketability), and on a roll. Jonghyun was the least expected member, the least expected entertainer (!), and that's what makes it all the more shocking

In my opinion, I think they want to shock the mass. They want to cause hysteria and sadness cause of how unexpected it is. Worse, they want other people/fans to copycat what he did, it's called the Werther effect; a spike of emulation suicides after a widely publicized suicide. If the rumors are true, it also means they want to sacrifice more people. People remember him as a kind, warm hearted person with no issues at all, so when the news broke out, it caused overwhelming feelings of frustration and sadness. I imagine if it was Onew, the effect wouldn't be as great. Sure, some people would feel sorry for ever disrespecting him, but some would think that he deserved it and he really was dumb to commit suicide. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's possible. Besides, if the rumors are true also about SM sacrificing him, they can gain a lot from Jonghyun and not Onew. People will still look up to Jonghyun's works (cause he made a lot, plus he's the main singer) and not Onew's.

agreed 100%

 

[presenttense]

In my opinion, I think they want to shock the mass. They want to cause hysteria and sadness cause of how unexpected it is. Worse, they want other people/fans to copycat what he did, it's called the Werther effect; a spike of emulation suicides after a widely publicized suicide. If the rumors are true, it also means they want to sacrifice more people. People remember him as a kind, warm hearted person with no issues at all, so when the news broke out, it caused overwhelming feelings of frustration and sadness. I imagine if it was Onew, the effect wouldn't be as great. Sure, some people would feel sorry for ever disrespecting him, but some would think that he deserved it and he really was dumb to commit suicide. Sorry if that sounds harsh, but it's possible. Besides, if the rumors are true also about SM sacrificing him, they can gain a lot from Jonghyun and not Onew. People will still look up to Jonghyun's works (cause he made a lot, plus he's the main singer) and not Onew's.

THIS! they killed a kpop idol that was one of the most down to earth, sweet and kind and caring to cause mass histeria and sadness. They did this to other prominent celebrities who were known for their down to earth sweet personalities (ie kurt cobaine, princess di etc.) if someone unlikeable like shindong (no offense ELFS but seriously he's a douche) was sacrificed people would mourn but not in the same was as more well liked idols like jonghyun.

 

[Tisane]

THIS! they killed a kpop idol that was one of the most down to earth, sweet and kind and caring to cause mass histeria and sadness. They did this to other prominent celebrities who were known for their down to earth sweet personalities (ie kurt cobaine, princess di etc.) if someone unlikeable like shindong (no offense ELFS but seriously he's a douche) was sacrificed people would mourn but not in the same was as more well liked idols like jonghyun.

omg, never could stand shindong. a little while ago, I saw him w/ suju's latest comeback (I was watching the whole program and had no idea they were back) and I had to turn it off.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

omg, never could stand shindong. a little while ago, I saw him w/ suju's latest comeback (I was watching the whole program and had no idea they were back) and I had to turn it off.

Me too, I am a fan of super junior basically, and I couldn't stand Shindong and Kang in

 

[jewels]

This is something I found online about an ex YG trainee, dont know if it is 100% true.

A couple YG artists involve themselves with a lot of drug use.. It is their way of freedom and their way of expressing themselves. Honestly, all those beautiful tunes come from the essences of being intoxicated most of the time.. I hate to say it. The process worked so well that even trainees began to take it into consideration. But yeah, the artists that use it most are Jiyong oppa, CL, TOP and Teddy. I know this because every time I would pass Teddy’s office, the scent would linger from several feet away. The smell was most heavy during times when CL or GD were in the recording studios, also TOP just simply reeks in the stench. Jiyong is an incredibly talented artist, he’s the money maker for YG, excluding PSY. Aside from his career, he is pretty down to earth, but most of the time he seems to be very tired and has dark circles all the time. I don’t know if the rumor about him being a sex-addict is true, but I hear he messes around with a lot of people. He goes to clubs a lot, the older trainees see him in a lot of underground clubs, he is always with Yang Seung Ho. Back in 2010 Taeyang was a very chill person, he wasn’t too much into his new style yet, but he was very “original”. I actually prefer Taeyang’s Wedding Dress days opposed to his nowaday looks. But yeah, I heard that YG himself was fixing Taeyang’s style up because as an idol he can’t be “ordinary”. TY’s whole style is changing up due to the way everyone sees him. He’s a very sweet guy and no he isn’t dating anyone (as of 2012), even though he released the I Need a Girl song. He is losing himself to everyone’s critiques and I hear he self-doubts himself a lot. Daesung honestly didn’t come around much, he doesn’t seem to show much interest in many things. I heard that he is extremely close with some SNSD members and they hang out a lot. He’s a pretty funny guy and always exaggerates his expressions when he is easily fascinated by things. When trainees show off, he is the first to react. Seungri was almost ALWAYS around the girl trainees whenever he would come around the building. He flirts a lot and isn’t afraid to take advantage of an obsessed trainees. He’s kind of weird, just my opinion, I feel like he’s a try hard, being cool or funny just doesn’t come naturally to him, he always seems to TRY doing those things, but that’s just me. TOP oppa is very cold. Not as in MEAN but he just doesn’t talk much when he’s around. He always seems tired and walks around with a mad face. I once had a small conversation with him and he reeked of alcohol. As of 2012, rumor says he was depressed because he had an identity crisis and went through a rough patch with a past girlfriend. Overall Big Bang is alright as just normal people, I’d say the most down to earth is Daesung because when he comes around he always makes others laugh and continues to just be himself. Big Bang isn’t that close anymore and have grown distant. The only members who still keep in contact are GD and YB. 2NE1 is honestly losing their whole touch.. I still keep in contact with my friends who are still trainees and they tell me many things while conversing over the phone, so the more recent info are just from my friends. Recently CL has been extremely overconfident and conceited. She knows she runs 2NE1 so she takes advantage of her position. She is very arrogant towards Dara and doesn’t pay much attention to Bom and Minji. Dara is very, very nice, so CL knows she can be as mean as she wants to Dara and nothing would happen. I remember one day I stayed late after practicing at the building and I just so happened to hear CL taunting Dara in the other hall, she said something like “Ssandara, what if we switched roles, I would be face and you main rapper, it would be good for me but not so much for you” or something like that and she laughed. I didn’t hear a reply from Dara. I mean of course it could have just been simple jokes, but hearing no reply and no laughter from Dara at all raised up some questions. CL has let her fame get to her and she honestly isn’t the same girl as before anymore. I remember during their Try To Follow Me era, CL was an extreme tom boy and didn’t like much girly things and make up as well. She was a very passionate rapper. But nowadays she wears layers of makeup and always dresses in brand clothings and uses her sexy features to her advantage. People say CL is the baddest female, but I don’t think so. Sure she represents all rebels, but in ways of being a bad girl, like going to clubs, getting wasted and high, not being afraid to curse out another person, etc. But she doesn’t represent girls who need to break away from the shell that society holds on women. If CL was a bad girl, she would have shaved the side of her hair for their I Love You comeback, but she was too obsessed with her current hair, she taunted the stylist to give it to Dara saying “She needs more attention anyways”. I know this because I am good friends with one of the hair stylists and she told me. Enough of CL, now onto Bom. Bom is addicted to plastic surgery, any flaw she can find on her face, she gets it fixed right away. Due to this, it is one of the reasons why 2NE1 doesn’t actively involve themselves too much in things, because it would either have to be done without Bom or with a patched up Bom. She is very hilarious, she always comes to encourage trainees in funny ways, examples won’t do any justice. Minji is a quiet member. She isn’t too close to the others because she would rather revolve herself around other things. She is seen to be on the phone a lot with friends and she is always alone. When seen with the other members, she doesn’t interact much, just usually walks on the side or in the back. Minji, although talented, she seems to have lost her love for dancing and just does it because she has to. Now Dara, the only member left that seems to still have everything together. Since she is always criticized about her talents, she is an extremely hard working member. She loves proving everyone wrong and spends hours in practice rooms, usually the last to leave. She is closest with Bom, for they kind of went through similar things in the entertainment and kind of had each other’s back since day one. Dara hasn’t let fame get to her yet and she continues to support everyone in YG including trainees, she always comes around to help out with training for modeling and acting. Not much is she seen helping with vocals or dancing though. I’d say Dara is 2NE1’s last hope if they ever want to unite as an actual Idol Group. That’s all the idols I can really talk about, I barely ever saw PSY, when I did, he was just walking around the building. Gummy isn’t around much. Sean’s children are the sweetest little things! Their family is just perfect. Sean and his wife always visit the company with the kids, when they come around, YG’s wife and their daughter Eunjoo come around too. I didn’t stay long enough to meet Lee Hi and Akdong Musician.. Oh! I almost forgot to talk about YG himself.. He is actually a really good CEO. Although we don’t see him much, whenever he comes around he gives the best advice and critiques. He isn’t afraid to make us cry as well. When he comes around, all backbones stand straight and the room becomes quiet. YG hates trainees who cannot dance, he sees them as a waste of time and effort. He is somewhat a pervert, if a trainee is very pretty or easily gains sympathy points, they get away with things from YG, he loves aegyo from sweet, innocent girls but what Ahjussi doesn’t.. When evaluating trainees, if he is interested in your performance, he is seen to be bobbing his head and isn’t on beat. If he is not interested, his arms are crossed and he takes multiple deep sighs. President YG is a very intimidating guy, honestly if he wasn’t the CEO, I would have probably disliked him a lot, but being President, he needs that kind of aura and it definitely works for him.

I heard the same thing about Seungri being a creep.