Patterns of Evidence: The Israel Dilemma

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I'll add that many Christians who believe that the promises made to literal Israel are to be fulfilled in the state of Israel, also believe that the 12 tribes of Israel written of in Revelation 7 are literal.

Biblically they are not and cannot be literal because the 10 of the 12 tribes of Israel are not in existence today. The 10 tribes of the Northern Kingdom were taken into captivity during the Assyrian conquest (2 Kings 17:6-23) as I posted above, where they became integrated with other nations.

Also, the list of the 12 tribes in Revelation 7 is not like the other ones found in the rest of the Bible (Numbers 1:5-15; Ezekiel 48:1-29). Judah is listed as the first tribe (Revelation 7:5) instead of Reuben (Numbers 1:5). Also, the tribes of Dan and Ephraim, included in the lists of Numbers 1 and Ezekiel 48, are omitted from the list in Revelation 7, while Levi and Joseph are included instead. The obvious reason for the exclusion of Ephraim, and apparently Dan, from the list in Revelation 7 is that in the Old Testament these two tribes are apostate and idolatrous (1 Kings 12:29-30; Hosea 4:17).

The list of the tribes in Revelation 7 is not historical but spiritual just as Israel is spiritual in the New Covenant. The absence of Dan and Ephraim from the list suggests that the unfaithfulness of these two tribes will have no place among God’s sealed people.

Its also important to note that the church is referred to as the 12 tribes of Israel (James 1:1) in the New Testament. God's Israel is the true church which Jesus is the head of. The 12 tribes of Israel in Revelation 7 stand for the entire people of God from around the world who endure to the end, both Jews and Gentiles.

We can see how the Bible harmonises on this subject of Israel, God's true church.
 

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Total nonsense.

Romans 11:25-27
11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness (as to their true identity) is happened to part of Israel (the ten "lost" tribes - the House of Israel), until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
11:26 And so ALL Israel (the holy people) shall be saved (see Daniel 12:7): as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away unGodliness from Jacob (Israel):
11:27 For THIS [is] My Covenant unto them, when I shall take away THEIR sins.

The 10 Northern tribes (the 10 "lost" tribes of Israel), aka the "House of Israel" were the singular objective of Christ's Mission when He was here in the body of Jesus, hundreds of years AFTER their captivity in Assyria:

Matthew 15:24 But he (Jesus) answered and said, I am not sent but unto the "lost sheep" of the "House of Israel" (the Ten "Lost" Tribes of Israel).

Which is why Christ sent His Disciples to follow in His Footsteps:

Matthew 10:1-6
10:1 And when he had called unto [him] his twelve disciples, he gave them power [against] unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
10:2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James [the son] of Zebedee, and John his brother;
10:3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the taxman; James (the Lord's half-brother - ch. 13:55 and Gal. 1:19) [the son] of Alphaeus [Cleophas] (Mary's second husband) and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
10:4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and COMMANDED them, saying, Go NOT into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye NOT:
10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the "House of Israel".

It should be self-evident that neither Christ nor His Disciples would be able to find the 10 "Lost" tribes of the "House of Israel" if they were completely destroyed or absorbed into the rest of the population hundreds of years before Jesus walked the Earth.

And, of course, on top of all of this we have the SURE Word of Prophecy (2 Pet. 1:19), which includes dozens and dozens of descriptions of the "House of Israel" during the LATTER-DAYS, i.e. NOW, so that they can be easily identified.

I'm afraid you're the one talking nonsense here.

You made this point about the lost sheep of Israel being the ten lost tribes before in my thread about the 144,000 in this post. I will repost part of my response to you from that thread.
Matthew 10:5-7 and 15:24 are not talking about the ten lost tribes of Israel. Jesus was talking about the lost of Israel at the time when He was here on earth.

In Matthew 10 Jesus told the apostles not to preach to the Gentiles or Samaritans but to preach "to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." The ten lost tribes didn't exist then or now. Rather Jesus wanted the apostles to preach to the Jews then because He knew as a nation of chosen people, they had a very short time left. Not long after that, they stopped being a chosen people as Jesus told them Himself.

Matthew 21:43-44, “Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken from you and given to a nation bearing the fruits of it. And whoever falls on this stone will be broken; but on whomever it falls, it will grind him to powder.”
I will add to make myself more clear, the Jews at that time were the lost sheep of Israel and we see that from what the Scribes and Pharisees were saying and doing to Jesus. They did not know their God nor was He in their heart and yet they were leaders and teachers in the Jewish community at the time.

In Matthew 15:1-20 Jesus got into a debate with the Jewish teachers about what makes a person unclean. The teachers had added to the law all kinds of regulations about external uncleanliness. For example, you had to wash your hands in a certain way. But Jesus’ disciples weren’t bothering with this regulation, and when the scribes and Pharisees from Jerusalem pointed it out, Jesus responded as He did which involved Him calling them hypocrites and saying in verses 13-14 about them, “Every plant which My heavenly Father has not planted will be uprooted. Let them alone. They are blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind leads the blind, both will fall into a ditch.” Lost sheep indeed.

It was because of the scribes and Pharisees that Jesus got crucified and most of the Jews rejected Christ as Messiah.

When Jesus tells the apostles to preach only to the Jews, as I said it was because they had such a short time. Not long after Jesus's death the Jews and their nation stopped being a chosen nation and the gospel got preached to other parts of the world by the disciples to Gentiles because the Jews rejected Christ as Messiah. Forty years after Jesus' death the Romans completely destroyed Jerusalem and the temple.

The ten tribes that didn't exist for centuries even before Jesus came to this world the first time, are irrelevant I'm afraid. They did not exist then as now so they don't come into the equation.

You've misunderstood those passages from the Bible.
 
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Further yet, the following examples expose the patently false claim that God "allowed" the "House of Israel" to be destroyed when God specifically told us that would NEVER happen, and that the backsliding 10-tribed "House of Israel" justified herself MORE than the treacherous 2-tribed "House of Judah".

Hosea 11:9-10
11:9 I will not execute the fierceness of Mine anger, I will NOT return to destroy Ephraim: for I [am] God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.
11:10 They SHALL walk after the "I AM": He shall roar like a lion: when He shall roar, then the children shall tremble from the West.

Jeremiah 3:6-11
3:6 The "I AM" said also unto me in the days of Josiah the king, Hast thou seen [that] which backsliding Israel hath done? she is gone up upon every high mountain and under every green tree, and there hath played the harlot (been unfaithful to Me).
3:7 And I said after she had done all these [things], Turn thou unto Me. But she returned not. And her treacherous sister Judah saw [it].
3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
3:9 And it came to pass through her making light of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks.
3:10 And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto Me with her whole heart, but in pretence, saith the "I AM".
3:11 And the "I AM" said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than TREACHEROUS Judah (Jew-dah).

And further yet, we have it straight from Christ, in His Revelation to John, that most of the 144,000 souls that will be redeemed from the Earth will be from the "House of Israel".

Revelation 7:4-9
7:4 And I HEARD the number of them which were sealed: [and there were] sealed an hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
7:5 Of the tribe of Judah [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad [were] sealed twelve thousand.
7:6 Of the tribe of Asher [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Naphtali [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasseh [were] sealed twelve thousand.
7:7 Of the tribe of Simeon [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar [were] sealed twelve thousand.
7:8 Of the tribe of Zebulun [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph/Ephraim [were] sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin [were] sealed twelve thousand.
7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could count (which is why he was told in verse 4), of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the Throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
I responded to this too in my thread of the 144,000 as I've done in my post above. The 12 tribes in the book of Revelation are not literal. They can't be and I explained why in my above post.

This is my response to someone else on the 144,000 thread:
So where are 12,000 pure Israelites from the ten northern tribes of Israel going to come from to make up the 144,000 eh? A genealogist would be hard pressed to find even one vaguely pure descendant from the tribe of Gad, Asher, Naphtali, Manasseh, or Simeon—much less 12,000! In fact, because these tribes were so thoroughly scattered around the world and assimilated by their host nations, it is very possible even you have traces of Abraham in your bloodline! I posted this before. They don't exist.

Later Judah was destroyed too after Jesus' ascension to heaven and Jews were scattered because they had rejected Christ once and for all. I doubt there are 12000 Jews from the tribe of Judah and 12000 from the tribe of Benjamin that exist today. Also Benjamin was a really small tribe. it couldn't possibly have the same number of people as Judah could it?
The first Israel rejected God and they were taken captive by the Assyrians and that was the end of the northern kingdom with the ten tribes. I didn't make this up. Its written of in the Bible:

2 Kings 17:5-6, "Now the king of Assyria went throughout all the land, and went up to Samaria and besieged it for three years. In the ninth year of Hoshea, the king of Assyria took Samaria and carried Israel away to Assyria, and placed them in Halah and by the Habor, the River of Gozan, and in the cities of the Medes."

2 Kings 17:18, "Therefore the Lord was very angry with Israel, and removed them from His sight; there was none left but the tribe of Judah alone."


Only the Southern kingdom/Judah survived after being taken captive by Babylon.

The house of Israel/Israel/the church of God/the righteous/people of God are one and the same thing in the New Covenant. So of course God is not going to destroy it. The twelve tribes of Israel will come out of the house of Israel/God's true church/spiritual Israel as its the only Israel that counts and will do for eternity because, "For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise" (Galatians 3:27-29).

This goes hand in hand with biblical doctrine.

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@phipps pleads that you should believe him instead of believing God, and then attempts to explain why God and His Christ didn't say EXACTLY what They mean and mean EXACTLY what They said about very, very few being redeemed from the Earth. He then calls this total satanic nonsense "Biblical" to try to bolster his errant and blasphemous views.

This unbelief is endemic, systemic and thus a malignant growth that permeates ALL of the denominations of "Christianity". The blessings and promises that God made throughout the Bible were to the ISRAELITES, so that through them all the world would be blessed.

Genesis 18:18-19
18:18 Seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
18:19 For I KNOW him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep The Way of the "I AM", to do justice and judgment; that the "I AM" may bring upon Abraham that which He hath spoken of him.

The word "Israel" means "Champion of God", i.e. those that DO God's Will.

The term "Jew" has changed in meaning throughout history. It was originally used to speak of those Israelites that were from the tribe of Judah, and then by extension those from the tribe of Benjamin, as those two tribes make up the two-tribed "House of Judah" who conspired to start a religion that mixed pagan beliefs with Biblical principles (becoming a template for all organized religion). Then, while in captivity in Babylon, this "mystery religion" was codified in the Talmud, which became the governing book of Talmudic Judaism.

Jeremiah 11:9 And the "I AM" said unto me, A conspiracy is found among the men of Judah, and among the inhabitants of Jerusalem.

Ezekiel 22:23-27
22:23 And the Word of the "I AM" came unto me, saying,
22:24 Son of man, say unto her, Thou [art] the land that is not cleansed, nor rained upon in the day of indignation.
22:25 [There is] a conspiracy of her prophets in the midst thereof, like a roaring lion ravening the prey; they have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they have made her many widows in the midst thereof.
22:26 Her priests have violated My Law, and have profaned Mine Holy things: they have put no difference between the Holy and profane, neither have they showed [difference] between the unclean and the clean, and have hid their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I am profaned among them.
22:27 Her princes in the midst thereof [are] like wolves ravening the prey, to shed blood, [and] to destroy souls, to get dishonest gain.

There have been three mass conversions of other peoples into Talmudic Judaism. The first was the mass conversion of Babylonians while the "House of Judah" was in captivity in Babylon. The second was roughly 100 years before the birth of Jesus, when John Hyrcanus converted the Idumean Edomites in and around Jerusalem which, by the time of Jesus, became the ruling body of Talmudic Judaism: the Sanhedrin.

It was the Sanhedrin that conspired and manipulated the Roman government to murder Jesus via crucifixion and most "Christians", i.e. those who believe and support oxymoronic "Christian Zionism" STILL don't get it. Christ cursed the "Jews", symbolized in Scripture by the "fig-tree" (Jer. 24), and very plainly stated that they would BEAR NO FRUIT.

Matthew 21:19 And when he saw a fig tree in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away.

Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The Kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof (the "10 lost tribes" - the "House of Israel").

And the third mass conversion took place in the 8th century A.D., when the entire Khazarian nation (Ashkenazis) mass converted.

So that today, by their own admission, over 95% of those who call themselves "Jews" are ASHKENAZIS, descend from Japheth's grandson Ashkenaz, through Japheth's son Gomer.


That is why the term "Jew" today has NOTHING to do with the Biblical Israelites, and is only being used and abused to DECEIVE oxymoronic Christian Zionists into supporting the synagogue of Satan, exactly as Christ warned.

Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and [I know] the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are NOT, but [are] the synagogue of Satan.

Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are NOT, but do LIE; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

ANYONE claiming that Christ didn't mean the above literally, or that it doesn't apply to them that call themselves "Jews" today is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in them (1 John 2:3-4). The same goes for anyone falsely claiming that God destroyed the "House of Israel" or that the 144,000 that will be redeemed from the Earth is only "symbolic".

Matthew 7:13-14

7:13 Enter ye in at the "Strait" gate: for wide [is] the gate, and broad [is] the way, that leadeth to destruction, and MANY there be which go in thereat:
7:14 Because Strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] The Way, which leadeth unto Life, and FEW there be that find it.

It should be self-evident that the "Jews" today in the counterfeit-Jewish state of Israel are a MASS MURDERERING WARRING PEOPLE HELL BENT ON GLOBAL DOMINATION. Only those who are completely blinded by their own arrogance/ignorance would argue against such obvious facts after witnessing the magic virus scam and the genocides that are currently taking place in the AshkeNAZI homeland of Ukraine and in the land of Israel.

 
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More patterns of evidence from Scripture that the sons of Joseph SHALL be called Israel, and shall become powerful nations that grow into a multitude and a commonwealth of nations in the midst of the Earth:

Genesis 48:16-19
48:16
The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name [Israel] be named on them (let Ephraim and Manasseh be called Israel), and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.
48:17
And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father’s hand, to remove it from Ephraim’s head unto Manasseh’s head.
48:18 And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this [is] the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.
48:19 And his father refused, and said, I know [it], my son, I know [it]: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude (Commonwealth) of nations.

Genesis 35:10-11
35:10
And God said unto him, Thy name [is] Jacob (the Supplanter): thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and He called his name Israel (champion of God).
35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation AND a company of nations SHALL be of thee*, and kings SHALL come out of thy loins;

*Note:
There is no other monarchy on Earth that currently rules over “a nation and a company of nations” other than the British monarchy. It can therefore be said with absolute certainty that the British Throne IS the Davidic Throne of Israel.

Deuteronomy 33:16-17
33:16 And for the precious things of the earth and fullness thereof, and [for] the good Will of Him that dwelt in the bush: let [“The Blessing”] come upon the head of Joseph, and the CROWN upon the head of him [that was] separated from his brethren (Gen. 49:10 & 22-24).
33:17 His glory [is like] the firstling of his bullock, and his horns [are like] the horns of Unicorns**: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they [are] the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they [are] the thousands of Manasseh.

Psalm 92:10 But my horn shalt Thou exalt like [the horn of] an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

**That is why the “House of Israel” is pictured as a Unicorn on the British Coat of Arms.

 

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This will be my last post in this thread.

The house of Israel.

Matthew 10:5-6, "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."


When Jesus was on earth the first time, the church of His time was Israel/Judah. Yet He called the house of Israel, the members in the house of Israel of His time, “The lost sheep of Israel.”

Why did He call them “The lost sheep of Israel”? Because the condition of the church of Christ’s day was dire. They were preaching an untruthful gospel. A counterfeit gospel. That is why Christ always clashed with the Scribes and Pharisees.

One writer puts it this way:

"The Jews had sought to make a monopoly of the truth which is eternal life. They had hoarded the living manna, and it had turned to corruption. The religion which they tried to shut up to themselves became an offense. They robbed God of His glory, and defrauded the world by a counterfeit of the gospel. They had refused to surrender themselves to God for the salvation of the world [men]" {DA 36.1}.

The people whom God had called to be the pillar and ground of the truth had become representatives of Satan. They were doing the work that he desired them to do, taking a course to misrepresent the character of God, and cause the world to look upon Him as a tyrant. The very priests who ministered in the temple had lost sight of the significance of the service they performed. They had ceased to look beyond the symbol to the thing signified. In presenting their sacrificial offerings, they were as actors in a play. The ordinances which God himself had appointed were made the means of blinding the mind and hardening the heart. God could do no more for man through these channels. The whole system must be swept away" {DA 36.2}.

That was the condition of the church at that time and Jesus told His apostles, “Go now to the lost sheep of Israel.” He wanted the gospel to go out to as many Jews before they stopped being a chosen people shortly after His death. He knew after that the gospel would mainly be preached to the Gentiles.

There is a parable Jesus told of the lost sheep too. I'm not going to post the whole parable but its in Matthew 18:10-14. In verse 12 He says, "If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying?" This parable is of a shepherd searching for his lost sheep. It represents Jesus as a patient, persevering, compassionate, loving God who wants to save us all who've wandered from Him and bring us back into His fold.

So Jesus wanted to save the lost sheep of the house of Israel before it was too late. And many did hearken to His and the apostles teaching and found God. Most of the Scribes and Pharisees rejected Him and plotted His death instead.

Jesus had warned the Jews that the gospel was going to go to another nation (a spiritual one) because they were not producing fruit any more. And that is exactly what happened after He died. The gospel was preached mainly to the Gentiles. And anyone regardless of race could become part of God's Israel as long as they accepted Christ and His precepts.

What applied to ancient Israel applies to the whole world too. This world will be ending soon and many of us have wandered away from God like the lost sheep of the house of Israel before. Jesus is doing everything He can to get us to hear His true message and get us back into His fold before its too late. He doesn't want any of His sheep lost forever.
 

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Jesus didn't have a "church"; the COMMUNITY that Christ was sent to give His Message was the 10-tribed "House of Israel", exactly as Jesus said.

And the reason they were referred to as "the lost sheep" was because they had wandered astray from The Law, instead adopting the pagan religious superstitions of their captors and neighbors. They very obviously had NOT been destroyed.

Excerpt below from:

The Greek word ἐκκλησίᾳ (ekklēsia), which has wrongly been translated in many Bibles as “church”, actually means “community”. Ekklēsia comes from the Greek prefix “ek”, which means “out of” and the root word “kaleo” which means “to call”. Those who are called out of the worldly systems and institutions (Matt. 22:14; John 15:19) form the community of Christ, aka the “Elect”, which the gates of hell shall never prevail against (Matt. 16:16-19).



Jesus even provided us with a parable talking about His Mission to gather the "lost sheep" of the "House of Israel", i.e. the believing REMNANT, that shall be redeemed from the Earth.

Matthew 18:11-14
18:11 For the Son of Man is come to save that which was Lost (Matt. 10:5-6).
18:12 How think ye? if a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray?
18:13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that [sheep], than of the ninety and nine which went not astray.
18:14 Even so it is not the Will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish.

Further, and after Christ's Ascension, we also have James writing to ALL 12 TRIBES, which James tells us ARE SCATTERED ABROAD.

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Christ Jesus, to the twelve tribes (of Israel) which are scattered abroad: Greetings.

There would be absolutely no logical reason for Christ-Jesus to seek out the "Lost Sheep" of the "House of Israel", and to COMMAND His Disciples to do the same if that Mission was doomed to fail because they had been, or would be destroyed in their entirety. God did NOT send Christ on some sort of fool's errand.
 

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Concerning the NATION that Christ-Jesus referenced in Matthew 21:43, we know about that too from prophecy, because God promised to make their (Israel's) NAME "Great": GREAT BRITAIN.

Genesis 35:10-11
35:10
And God said unto him, Thy name [is] Jacob (the Supplanter): thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and He called his name Israel (champion of God).
35:11 And God said unto him, I [am] God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a NATION AND a company of nations SHALL be of thee*, and kings SHALL come out of thy loins;

*Note:
There is no other monarchy on Earth that currently rules over “a nation and a company of nations” other than the British monarchy. It can therefore be said with absolute certainty that the British Throne IS the Davidic Throne of Israel.



Genesis 12:2 And I will make from thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy (seed’s) NAME “Great”**; and thou shalt be a blessing:

**There is no other nation on Earth whose name is “Great” other than Great Britain.

Note: The word “British” is NOT an English word. It is Hebrew and means “the people of the Covenant”, i.e. the people Israel.

In fact, there are at least 95 scriptural "birthmarks" identifying Israel during the "latter days", which leave NO DOUBT that God's prophecies and promises HAVE BEEN FULFILLED.


Perhaps the even bigger irony of all this is that it is the modern Israelite nations who became the protestant "Christian" nations of the world, i.e. at least marginally accepting Christ as would be expected, since they were the focus of Christ's Mission and the Mission given to Christ's Disciples.

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Genesis 12:2 And I will make from thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy (seed’s) NAME “Great”**; and thou shalt be a blessing..
Yes, we Brits civilised half the world, not bad for a tiny offshore island..:)-

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And our influence even stretched into space..:)-

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