The Hebrew God Revealed

[Faker He-Man]

Marcionism... wow, that is.. oddly specific. It seems many with a follower's mindset tend to assume everyone must be a follower of something too. Red Sky, didn't you think I was a rosicrucian also? I'm afraid they don't have a category for me yet, sorry.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Marcionism... wow, that is.. oddly specific. It seems many with a follower's mindset tend to assume everyone must be a follower of something too. Red Sky, didn't you think I was a rosicrucian also? I'm afraid they don't have a category for me yet, sorry.

Perhaps you are both "Alt-Rosicrucian?" I'm only saying this because I read their new manifesto and recognise the world-view to a degree?

P.s. I understand the implication of the "follower" observations. It makes me wonder though - in the Biblical narrative, rebellion and sin was sold by the serpent wrapped up in the attractive packaging of human potential and independence ;-)

 

[Violette]

I agree with your view of God partially. An entity beyond time,space, and matter created the universe. I don't believe the God of the OT is Satan or different than the God of the NT. The Bible progressively reveals God but it's still the same God. The same characteristics of God in the OT you will also find in the NT. I don't think the Jewish people today are the same as the ones in the Bible. They look pretty white and even the Star of David looks satanic to me. There's definitely something weird going on with the Jews today and they probably do worship Satan. They control a vast amount of wealth and media which makes them very powerful.

 

[Vixy]

Its important always to state i live in Israel for 25 years and served in the IDF infantry for 3 years and had a super right wing mentality [ "killing palestinian babies is ok because they are garbage" - kind of thoughts ] - Now im avakened and i will like to share with you an important subject.
The Hebrew God - Yehova
Altough the old and new testament are together and describe the same God thats totaly not true
Let me get it out of the way and just say it - The hebrew GOD is cristhianity"s Satan.
A big thing to say and i will explain it really fast and simple
What is god ? with all the advances in human perspective and science i can describe god as so :
A consciousness ,which existed before the Universe in an empty void without time and space, decided to create the whole Universe :
Billions of galaxys with billions of starts each , endless parallel universes and dimensions in each paralel universe and all of that exists in 7 densities [ we as humans are on third ] .
That same god lives in a place without time , he created all so he can be present in all times \ galaxies \ dimensions \ densities - all at once.
This being is preety tough to understand by human thinking but its preety colosal.
So......as the hebrew religion defined by the Talmud and Kabala - this "GOD" decided to create a small number of people from the "holly realm "on a small planet in a small galaxy ....and all other human lifeforms [ in the entire universe ] he created from the "3 evil realms" , they are the GOYIM , humans with the souls of animals which are ment to serve and amuse the jews , the jewish laws do not aply to them - murder -r*pe-stealing is even a must from the part of the jew upon the goyim.[ its written in the talmud ]
Then he told the jews they are his choosen people and nurtured them .
Now lets see what this god did and said.
- He destroyed the whole world because they were not to his liking [ the flood ]
- He made his most loyal servant almost kill his son just because he wanted to see if he would do it [ sick bastard - and sicker was the servant who like most jews cant tell between satan and god]
- He killed innocent new born babies in Egypt
- He let the whole jewish generation that came from Egypt to die in the desert so only the fresh mind controled would enter the holly land of murder . [ thats why it took 40 years insteed of 4 years ]
- He took his people to a new ocupied land and ordered them to murder everyone - women and babies and men , destroy their altars and not make peace nor talk to them - simply kill and destroy.
- The jews for the last 2000 years are dominating the slave , money and the pornographic bussines mainly which is the source of all evil today.

So if you are not a jew , its clear that this God is your Satan on steroids and the Massiah is the Antichrist.

I have tons and tons of info on the secret space program , iluminati psyops , religion , spiritualty, nutrition etc - i need 400000000 pages to fill it all - if anybody wants more info on this or other subject feel free to ask in the coments

You mean that god would allow for that incredible misunderstanding to occur and send people to hell with his own words? Brrr..

 

[Faker He-Man]

Perhaps you are both Alt-Rosicrucian? I'm only saying this because I read their new manifesto and recognise the world-view to a degree?

P.s. I understand the implication of the "follower" observations. It makes me wonder though - in the Biblical narrative, rebellion and sin was sold by the serpent wrapped up in the attractive packaging of human potential and independence ;-)

Meh, wake me when rosicrucians actually create something imaginative and original for once instead of rehashing the same old memorized info.

To me it seems that the mindsets of followers and rebels are not all that different from each other. Or at least they do share something quite noteworthy: a lack of objectivity.

 

[JoChris]

Perhaps you are both "Alt-Rosicrucian?" I'm only saying this because I read their new manifesto and recognise the world-view to a degree?

P.s. I understand the implication of the "follower" observations. It makes me wonder though - in the Biblical narrative, rebellion and sin was sold by the serpent wrapped up in the attractive packaging of human potential and independence ;-)

Are there many Rosicrucians groups out in the open? Thinking about it I have never seen a hall etc. with that name. Pretty rare ones like Christian Science and Theosophy yes, Rosicrucians no.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Are there many Rosicrucians groups out in the open? Thinking about it I have never seen a hall etc. with that name. Pretty rare ones like Christian Science and Theosophy yes, Rosicrucians no.

I remember researching it a few years back - remember back in the 60's where there was a communist in every American town?!

@Faker He-Man - if you don't agree with the message of Rosicrucianism I am truly glad for you!

As far as the reach of the philosophy, you would be surprised how mainstream it has become... ever watched Harry Potter?

http://www.harrypotterforseekers.com/

Feel free to check out the parallels with the Chymical Wedding of Christian Rosenkreutz...

 

[JoChris]

I remember researching it a few years back - remember back in the 60's where there was a communist in every American town?!

I heard of McCarthyism only through doing that standard 11th grade play analysis "The Crucible".

 

[AspiringSoul]

@Antipapirus
Here's a relevant quote from hadith regarding God's relationship with us.
I am as My Servant Thinks (expects) I am

This is similar to how in hinduism they believe the light of Brahman (pure Essence of God) reflects on the "mirror of maya" (the illusion of the 'self') ...and then God with personality/attributes is manifest.

We all have our own personal 'God' and He also reflects our mind state so for example if you're an angry person...the aspect of God you'll manifest into your life, is God's anger.
It isn't that anger is evil by itself.but anger is a reaction to evil/injustice. So what you would be creating a reality where you experience evil/injustice and so you become angry and seek God's wrath.
This is turn brings about a chain of events where we suffer too because we also are evil and commit injustice.
Now imagine this x the entire ummah/nation (ie the israelites/jews).

 

[Yahda]

Anyone with eyes can see that these are two different book. One is the God of the Hebrews, and the other is a book that piggy backs off the OT.

Considering that the God of the living (OT) is the God of the Hebrews, imagine how some must feel about that ? This is in return how we got the NT. The nice God. The God who saves everybody, just believe in Jesus.....

Nothing about these two book are the same. For one The God of the OT NEVER spoke a word in the NT. He never mentioned a Jesus in the old.

When you research, you will find numerous articles trying to explain away the difference between the two books.

For one difference in personalities between the God of the old and the new.

Two, the difference in the Holy Spirit

Three a difference in the end time scenario. The Old Testament, you inherit the land, the NT you got to heaven.....

Hell, never mentioned in the old as a lake of fire. Hell equals death/grave

That's just to name a few.

 

[AspiringSoul]

Just want to say...it will be a sight to watch you and @Thunderian engage each other. *can't wait...*

i don't think ive ever seen him engage anyone on here with intelligent convo, he just says some shit...ignores valuable posts when he's put to task..and comes back to repeat the same old shite.

 

[AspiringSoul]

Anyone with eyes can see that these are two different book. One is the God of the Hebrews, and the other is a book that piggy backs off the OT.

Considering that the God of the living (OT) is the God of the Hebrews, imagine how some must feel about that ? This is in return how we got the NT. The nice God. The God who saves everybody, just believe in Jesus.....

Nothing about these two book are the same. For one The God of the OT NEVER spoke a word in the NT. He never mentioned a Jesus in the old.

When you research, you will find numerous articles trying to explain away the difference between the two books.

For one difference in personalities between the God of the old and the new.

Two, the difference in the Holy Spirit

Three a difference in the end time scenario. The Old Testament, you inherit the land, the NT you got to heaven.....

Hell, never mentioned in the old as a lake of fire. Hell equals death/grave

That's just to name a few.

For one The God of the OT NEVER spoke a word in the NT. He never mentioned a Jesus in the old.

If you actually took your head out of your ass for a few seconds some day maybe you could read Deuteronomy 18:18 where God says

. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name

of course I know Jesus was a true prophet on account of this chapter where it also tell us
2 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

even though many would like to think subjectively here, some of the Book of Revelation prophecies have already been fulfilled and not even in some vague manner..so I know Jesus spoke the truth.

of course thje OT is full of prophecies about Jesus Christ.
Daniel 9 for example, the numbers don't lie, they fit perfectly with Jesus who was the annointed one.
Zechariah 11...no question there..
Wisdom chapters 1-3
there are a lot more obvious ones throughout but i'm just listing off the top of my head.

in keeping with Deuteronomy 18 though, look what happened to the jewish nation after they rejected Jesus is it was the half a 'week' later their temple and city were destroyed.
God did say He would call anyone to account if they reject His prophets.
long term History doesn't lie.

 

[Fl-Fr-Fa]

Its important always to state i live in Israel for 25 years and served in the IDF infantry for 3 years and had a super right wing mentality [ "killing palestinian babies is ok because they are garbage" - kind of thoughts ] - Now im avakened and i will like to share with you an important subject.
The Hebrew God - Yehova
Altough the old and new testament are together and describe the same God thats totaly not true
Let me get it out of the way and just say it - The hebrew GOD is cristhianity"s Satan.
A big thing to say and i will explain it really fast and simple
What is god ? with all the advances in human perspective and science i can describe god as so :
A consciousness ,which existed before the Universe in an empty void without time and space, decided to create the whole Universe :
Billions of galaxys with billions of starts each , endless parallel universes and dimensions in each paralel universe and all of that exists in 7 densities [ we as humans are on third ] .
That same god lives in a place without time , he created all so he can be present in all times \ galaxies \ dimensions \ densities - all at once.
This being is preety tough to understand by human thinking but its preety colosal.
So......as the hebrew religion defined by the Talmud and Kabala - this "GOD" decided to create a small number of people from the "holly realm "on a small planet in a small galaxy ....and all other human lifeforms [ in the entire universe ] he created from the "3 evil realms" , they are the GOYIM , humans with the souls of animals which are ment to serve and amuse the jews , the jewish laws do not aply to them - murder -r*pe-stealing is even a must from the part of the jew upon the goyim.[ its written in the talmud ]
Then he told the jews they are his choosen people and nurtured them .
Now lets see what this god did and said.
- He destroyed the whole world because they were not to his liking [ the flood ]
- He made his most loyal servant almost kill his son just because he wanted to see if he would do it [ sick bastard - and sicker was the servant who like most jews cant tell between satan and god]
- He killed innocent new born babies in Egypt
- He let the whole jewish generation that came from Egypt to die in the desert so only the fresh mind controled would enter the holly land of murder . [ thats why it took 40 years insteed of 4 years ]
- He took his people to a new ocupied land and ordered them to murder everyone - women and babies and men , destroy their altars and not make peace nor talk to them - simply kill and destroy.
- The jews for the last 2000 years are dominating the slave , money and the pornographic bussines mainly which is the source of all evil today.

So if you are not a jew , its clear that this God is your Satan on steroids and the Massiah is the Antichrist.

I have tons and tons of info on the secret space program , iluminati psyops , religion , spiritualty, nutrition etc - i need 400000000 pages to fill it all - if anybody wants more info on this or other subject feel free to ask in the coments

Lovely fall day and a touch of spring in here.

Cute
Lovely
Needed
Feathers ruffled, getting ready to fly
Yayyy
Glimmers of God everywhere

Welcome to the forums.


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[Yahda]

For one The God of the OT NEVER spoke a word in the NT. He never mentioned a Jesus in the old.

If you actually took your head out of your ass for a few seconds some day maybe you could read Deuteronomy 18:18 where God says

. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name

of course I know Jesus was a true prophet on account of this chapter where it also tell us
2 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.

even though many would like to think subjectively here, some of the Book of Revelation prophecies have already been fulfilled and not even in some vague manner..so I know Jesus spoke the truth.

of course thje OT is full of prophecies about Jesus Christ.
Daniel 9 for example, the numbers don't lie, they fit perfectly with Jesus who was the annointed one.
Zechariah 11...no question there..
Wisdom chapters 1-3
there are a lot more obvious ones throughout but i'm just listing off the top of my head.

in keeping with Deuteronomy 18 though, look what happened to the jewish nation after they rejected Jesus is it was the half a 'week' later their temple and city were destroyed.
God did say He would call anyone to account if they reject His prophets.
long term History doesn't lie.

The OT is full of prophecies but you couldn't find ONE mention ? I rest my case. Throwing around ENTIRE chapters does not help your case.

Just accept that Jesus was never mentioned. Nor did God speak a single word in the new. That's a FACT whether you like it or not.

 

[grateful servant]

I'm surprised @Artful Revealer hasn't commented yet. This sounds alot like what he talks about...

 

[elsbet]

Nor did God speak a single word in the new. That's a FACT whether you like it or not.

Yes, He did.

"This is my son, in whom I am well pleased." Matt.17:5

For starters.

 

[Yahda]

Yes, He did.

"This is my son, in whom I am well pleased." Matt.17:5

For starters.

For starters ? Lol. No that's it. Exodus 4:22

 

[Yahda]

Also Baptism and Passover are in direct contradiction to the OT. Just to add to my previous list.

 

[Antipapirus]

It is marcionism, but with an interesting twist. I wonder if the proposer of this thread subject connects with the ideas below?

"See the Great Work of the Sun: religiosity has given way forever to a spirituality that is founded not on belief, but on knowing. The vast majority of human beings accept the existence of the soul as an obvious fact, and know that they are living on Earth for the purpose of developing this soul, in contact with others. Rather than worshipping God the Father, Jehovah, Allah, Brahma, or any other God, they are endeavoring to understand and abide by the divine laws, in the sense of the natural, universal, and spiritual laws. Humanity is well on the way to its Regeneration, and even to its Reintegration."

Is this perspective something you find a resonance with @Antipapirus ?

Religion has so many branches and man has infinite ways to worship - so its a complicated subject - Altough our real purpose as souls is verry simple - come out from the creator as a spirit [ thats your real state of being- energy ] - start the wheel of karma in any way you like from 1 density and return to the creator by working your way up to the 8 density and become the creator once again. In between so many crazy stuff can happen its unveliable , I will write a post on that dont try to understand it too hard.

 

[Karlysymon]

i don't think ive ever seen him engage anyone on here with intelligent convo, he just says some shit...ignores valuable posts when he's put to task..and comes back to repeat the same old shite.

I have nothing against @Thunderian and iam not willing to believe he is what he has been called (mossad agent, hasbara). I just want to see him defend what he believes about Israel before someone who lives there and actually served in the IDF given that they contradict each other (no one really knows who is sitting on the other side of the computer screen, so we are taking Antipapirus at his word). If Thunderian had lived in Israel, served in the IDF and still held a view in opposition to the OP, that would be another story...
(I know its very easy to talk about places in which we don't live but Israel is such a contentious topic.)