"The way home or catch the fire" compared to bible/ other religions (part 6)

[JoChris]

The following part would never have been said by Jesus. (Sentences separated for easier reading.)

8:82 Jesus also taught about the laws of Karma, with what he said to all the blind, crippled or sick people that he healed, using “The Force”.

Karma and reincarnation are not part of Judaism, Christianity, or even Islam (the other religion AJH pretends to believe in).

Karma - Wikipedia
Karma (/ˈkɑːrmə/, from Sanskrit: कर्म, IPA: [ˈkɐɾmɐ] (listen); Pali: kamma) is a concept of action, work or deed, and its effect or consequences...

The concept of karma is closely associated with the idea of rebirth in many schools of Indian religions (particularly in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism),[6] as well as Taoism.[7] In these schools, karma in the present affects one's future in the current life, as well as the nature and quality of future lives—one's saṃsāra.[8][9] This concept has also been adopted in Western popular culture, in which the events that happen after a person's actions may be considered natural consequences of those actions.


He said that because of their faith, right then, at that moment in time, their sins were forgiven them, and to GO AND SIN NO MORE.
Notice that TWHOFTF doesn't give any references. That is because numerous accounts in the Gospels have been scrambled.
Why does Jesus say "go and sin no more"?

This was NOT referring to the sins of the present-lifetime that they were living. They had been very sinful; evil; arrogant and selfish, in their previous-lifetime, and so they had been locked-inside bodies that were born crippled, or blind, etc., to punish them for the evil, and harm, that they had done to others, in their previouslifetime (John 9:2).

Being blind, or crippled, etc., would not only punish them, but also teach them HUMILITY, being now dependent upon the charity of other people; perhaps even the same people they had hurt - ironic? - Divine Justice.

John chapter 9 refers to Jesus' healing of ONE blind man. ONE.

9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

Read what Jesus said. The man was born blind, he had not sinned to cause the blindness. His parents weren't to blame for his blindness either.

Instead, if we read the whole chapter 9 we will see that God was about to demonstrate His power and kindness through Jesus' miraculous healing of the blind man.

Therefore AJH directly contradicted Jesus Himself there. That isn't my personal opinion or worldview talking.
If a person cannot see that for themself, they must have a motive to be intellectually blind.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

The following part would never have been said by Jesus. (Sentences separated for easier reading.)

8:82 Jesus also taught about the laws of Karma, with what he said to all the blind, crippled or sick people that he healed, using “The Force”.

Karma and reincarnation are not part of Judaism, Christianity, or even Islam (the other religion AJH pretends to believe in).

Karma - Wikipedia
Karma (/ˈkɑːrmə/, from Sanskrit: कर्म, IPA: [ˈkɐɾmɐ] (listen); Pali: kamma) is a concept of action, work or deed, and its effect or consequences...

The concept of karma is closely associated with the idea of rebirth in many schools of Indian religions (particularly in Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism),[6] as well as Taoism.[7] In these schools, karma in the present affects one's future in the current life, as well as the nature and quality of future lives—one's saṃsāra.[8][9] This concept has also been adopted in Western popular culture, in which the events that happen after a person's actions may be considered natural consequences of those actions.


He said that because of their faith, right then, at that moment in time, their sins were forgiven them, and to GO AND SIN NO MORE.
Notice that TWHOFTF doesn't give any references. That is because numerous accounts in the Gospels have been scrambled.
Why does Jesus say "go and sin no more"?

This was NOT referring to the sins of the present-lifetime that they were living. They had been very sinful; evil; arrogant and selfish, in their previous-lifetime, and so they had been locked-inside bodies that were born crippled, or blind, etc., to punish them for the evil, and harm, that they had done to others, in their previouslifetime (John 9:2).

Being blind, or crippled, etc., would not only punish them, but also teach them HUMILITY, being now dependent upon the charity of other people; perhaps even the same people they had hurt - ironic? - Divine Justice.

John chapter 9 refers to Jesus' healing of ONE blind man. ONE.

9:1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

Read what Jesus said. The man was born blind, he had not sinned to cause the blindness. His parents weren't to blame for his blindness either.

Instead, if we read the whole chapter 9 we will see that God was about to demonstrate His power and kindness through Jesus' miraculous healing of the blind man.

Therefore AJH directly contradicted Jesus Himself there. That isn't my personal opinion or worldview talking.
If a person cannot see that for themself, they must have a motive to be intellectually blind.

One of the very best antidotes to the twisting words of “Christian” cults is to simply read (or listen to) the Bible!

Typically cults narrow the focus and gaslight people into agreeing with their emphasis. There is a path of persuasion and when they end up eventually believing in Yoda and being awarded a ceremonial light saber, they wonder how they got there!!!

 

[The Sojourner]

Karma and reincarnation are not part of Judaism, Christianity, or even Islam

I think you will find if you looked into it, that this statement is not actually true of Judaism. Although they don't "officially" accept it publicly, many of them do actually accept it as true in private and do teachings on it.

Reincarnation: What is it, what does Judaism say about it? - explainer

Reincarnation is a belief that the soul is reborn in a new body and identity after death. Some religions believe in it and it is in Kabbalah, and some claim Anne Frank was reincarnated.

www.jpost.com

I've seen and heard Jews (in videos) admit to this and how that although they don't usually publicly say, that they believe in reincarnation, they do actually discuss reincarnation and how they believe it works. They may not usually talk of it in general (although, I have seen exceptions on youtube) but do so among themselves. I guess it might be seen as a bit of an "open secret" that they do actually have beliefs and teachings about reincarnation, only it's just not "officially" said to be accepted in general.

Why does Jesus say "go and sin no more"?

According to the article at this link, Jesus' response to the man was him being "sarcastic"? Really??

So Jesus was only PRETENDING to be against sin, and said "go and sin NO MORE" with a sarcastic "sparkle" in his eye?? Wow!! Now that HAS to be a new one. WOW!

(Oh wait... No, it isn't! I've heard that sort of thing being said before.. by christians.)

But that is NOT like the Jesus of the Bible at all. -

Matt. 5:37 But let your Yes, be YES; and your No, be NO: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

The post you asked about was made in general. And yes, of course it should be the truth.

 

[JoChris]

I think you will find if you looked into it, that this statement is not actually true of Judaism. Although they don't "officially" accept it publicly, many of them do actually accept it as true in private and do teachings on it.

Reincarnation: What is it, what does Judaism say about it? - explainer

Reincarnation is a belief that the soul is reborn in a new body and identity after death. Some religions believe in it and it is in Kabbalah, and some claim Anne Frank was reincarnated.

www.jpost.com

I've seen and heard Jews (in videos) admit to this and how that although they don't usually publicly say, that they believe in reincarnation, they do actually discuss reincarnation and how they believe it works. They may not usually talk of it in general (although, I have seen exceptions on youtube) but do so among themselves. I guess it might be seen as a bit of an "open secret" that they do actually have beliefs and teachings about reincarnation, only it's just not "officially" said to be accepted in general.

Where they Orthodox Jews, cultural Jews or Kabbalah believing Jews?
There appear to be as massive differences between the three groups as different religions altogether.

I have seen some conspiracy writers claim that all Jews were really Kabbalists in disguise. It is very important not to jump to conclusions.

According to the article at this link, Jesus' response to the man was him being "sarcastic"? Really??

So Jesus was only PRETENDING to be against sin, and said "go and sin NO MORE" with a sarcastic "sparkle" in his eye?? Wow!! Now that HAS to be a new one. WOW!

(Oh wait... No, it isn't! I've heard that sort of thing being said before.. by christians.)

But that is NOT like the Jesus of the Bible at all. -

Matt. 5:37 But let your Yes, be YES; and your No, be NO: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

The post you asked about was made in general. And yes, of course it should be the truth.

Sadly you just demonstrated why someone like yourself managed to fall for TWHOFTF.

(That isn't meant in an insulting manner, although I know it is likely you will get offended.
Some people do have less critical, analytical thinking skills which does put them at higher risk of trusting what on the surface looks reasonable.)

You muddled words/ concepts while you were actually reading Why does Jesus say "go and sin no more"?

1. It was written in a conversation style, more informal manner than the links I usually provide. He is bouncing his thoughts around and then shows how he reached his conclusion.
A reader should be able to allow for that.

2. The author made it clear when he was providing his own opinions and personal thoughts and when he was giving Christian beliefs.
You should be able to tell the difference.

3. The author made it clear when he was referring to the two DIFFERENT times that Jesus used that phrase.

I hope that you misread it as only once because of speed-reading.

Next time please use Christian apologist Pastor Chris Rosebrough's rule of thumb saying:

"3 rules of biblical interpretation: context, context, CONTEXT."

IMO The journalist's rule of thumb is very useful as well: 5 ws - Wikipedia

According to the principle of the Five Ws, a report can only be considered complete if it answers these questions starting with an interrogative word:[1]

• Who
• What
• When
• Where
• Why

Some others commonly add how to the list.[1]

 

[JoChris]

The following section is really an expansion upon what AJH said above in 8:82, so I won't repeat what I already said above.

(reminder: blue for doctrine, green first person communication).

8:83 Blindness would teach them to value spiritual-things and love, instead of material-things, because they could not see material-things, thereby making them of less value, and less desirable.

They had obviously been very materialistic, in their previous-life, craving things of worldly beauty, and hurting many relatively good people, in order to obtain these things.

8:84 BEWARE, all you materially-rich people, who are poor in spirit, especially you who sell misery and death,
Where did that idea come from? Exactly what is he referring to?

to obtain worldly VALUELESS treasures (Luke 16:19-31)! You know who you are, and what is MORE important, so does God (Matt. 19:24).
Luke 16:19-31 is Jesus' story of the rich man and Lazarus.

Matthew 19:24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Whole passage Matthew 19:16-26

8:85 You are ALWAYS, EXACTLY where, and who, you have earned the right to be, by ALL your past actions and thoughts, in eternal-time —— PERFECT KARMA.

 

[JoChris]

The condemnation of wealth in the following section goes way beyond anything I heard/ learned in the Roman Catholic church and RCC schools!!!! (I had my entire school education in the RCC in the era BEFORE it toned the Religious doctrines down too!)

8:86 It is not a crime to be poor, in worldly goods. On the contrary, it is a crime to be rich, in worldly goods, and you have been selling your soul, to obtain them.

God, however, will not allow you to give these things back to Him, on your human’s death, to buy back your soul, and, in any case, they were never REALLY yours, they were only LOANED to you by Satan, in payment for doing his wishes.

These things don’t even belong to Satan, they belong to GOD, because He owns the WHOLE world. He created it all, and doesn’t want any of it. He, being spirit, has no needs.

What would God want silly worldly treasures for? The devil has conned you AGAIN! NEVER under-estimate the devil’s cunning!

However much we see on the news about rich people/ banks rorting the system for their own benefit/s, or superstars allegedly doing deals with Satan for fame (and IMO that is believable for some!), it is still an unfair overgeneralisation towards all rich people, especially people fortunate enough to be born into privileged families.


That is why you have to cling to God, and trust ONLY Him and His guidance, and not your own wisdom (?), so that Satan can not fool you, again. That is why the first COMMANDMENT is the FIRST and most important COMMANDMENT of all, and all the other COMMANDMENTS hang upon it.

He should be clearer: WHICH first commandment? Yes I am being pedantic, but remember AJH claims to be Jesus reborn in a new body....

The first commandment of the 10 commandments:



New Testament:

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

The condemnation of wealth in the following section goes way beyond anything I heard/ learned in the Roman Catholic church and RCC schools!!!! (I had my entire school education in the RCC in the era BEFORE it toned the Religious doctrines down too!)

8:86 It is not a crime to be poor, in worldly goods. On the contrary, it is a crime to be rich, in worldly goods, and you have been selling your soul, to obtain them.

God, however, will not allow you to give these things back to Him, on your human’s death, to buy back your soul, and, in any case, they were never REALLY yours, they were only LOANED to you by Satan, in payment for doing his wishes.

These things don’t even belong to Satan, they belong to GOD, because He owns the WHOLE world. He created it all, and doesn’t want any of it. He, being spirit, has no needs.

What would God want silly worldly treasures for? The devil has conned you AGAIN! NEVER under-estimate the devil’s cunning!

However much we see on the news about rich people/ banks rorting the system for their own benefit/s, or superstars allegedly doing deals with Satan for fame (and IMO that is believable for some!), it is still an unfair overgeneralisation towards all rich people, especially people fortunate enough to be born into privileged families.


That is why you have to cling to God, and trust ONLY Him and His guidance, and not your own wisdom (?), so that Satan can not fool you, again. That is why the first COMMANDMENT is the FIRST and most important COMMANDMENT of all, and all the other COMMANDMENTS hang upon it.

He should be clearer: WHICH first commandment? Yes I am being pedantic, but remember AJH claims to be Jesus reborn in a new body....

The first commandment of the 10 commandments:

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New Testament:


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Typically cults put a lot of emphasis on the evils of wealth for two good reasons….

Number 1 - to get their followers to cease all or almost all economic activity other than the promotion of the message.

Number 2 - to shame members who have anything into big donations to the cult leader.

The same kind of thinking discourages members from having children as kids create divided loyalties and don’t understand the reasons for their parents dedication to the “master”.

 

[JoChris]

Typically cults put a lot of emphasis on the evils of wealth for two good reasons….

Number 1 - to get their followers to cease all or almost all economic activity other than the promotion of the message.

Number 2 - to shame members who have anything into big donations to the cult leader.

The same kind of thinking discourages members from having children as kids create divided loyalties and don’t understand the reasons for their parents dedication to the “master”.

That does appear to be one of the major differences between cults and religions overall.
The black and white thinking is extreme.
I realise some religions encourage asceticism to varying degrees. The nuns I had for teachers in primary school were Sisters of Mercy and they had sworn to live simply, they lived in a local convent etc.

I can't imagine my favourite nun, Sister Columbiere (?) doing that because she believed God believed she was EVIL if she didn't give up what money she may have had. She appeared to love God a great deal.

 

[The Sojourner]

Where they Orthodox Jews, cultural Jews or Kabbalah believing Jews?
There appear to be as massive differences between the three groups as different religions altogether.

I have seen some conspiracy writers claim that all Jews were really Kabbalists in disguise. It is very important not to jump to conclusions.

Sadly you just demonstrated why someone like yourself managed to fall for TWHOFTF.

(That isn't meant in an insulting manner, although I know it is likely you will get offended.
Some people do have less critical, analytical thinking skills which does put them at higher risk of trusting what on the surface looks reasonable.)

You muddled words/ concepts while you were actually reading Why does Jesus say "go and sin no more"?

1. It was written in a conversation style, more informal manner than the links I usually provide. He is bouncing his thoughts around and then shows how he reached his conclusion.
A reader should be able to allow for that.

2. The author made it clear when he was providing his own opinions and personal thoughts and when he was giving Christian beliefs.
You should be able to tell the difference.

3. The author made it clear when he was referring to the two DIFFERENT times that Jesus used that phrase.

I hope that you misread it as only once because of speed-reading.

Next time please use Christian apologist Pastor Chris Rosebrough's rule of thumb saying:

"3 rules of biblical interpretation: context, context, CONTEXT."

IMO The journalist's rule of thumb is very useful as well: 5 ws - Wikipedia

According to the principle of the Five Ws, a report can only be considered complete if it answers these questions starting with an interrogative word:[1]

• Who
• What
• When
• Where
• Why

Some others commonly add how to the list.[1]

He was imagining a different Jesus.

Well @JoChris, I guess since you said that you may be right. I guess my lack of critical and analytical thinking skills must have contributed greatly when I attained my Professional Doctorate in Engineering degree.

But still, I don't think Jesus was being sarcastic, when he said "Go and sin no more".

I guess others have other opinions based on what they believe.

Maybe my lack in logical thinking skills is the cause of my problems in reading the Bible.

 

[JoChris]

He was imagining a different Jesus.

Well @JoChris, I guess since you said that you may be right. I guess my lack of critical and analytical thinking skills must have contributed greatly when I attained my Professional Doctorate in Engineering degree.

But still, I don't think Jesus was being sarcastic, when he said "Go and sin no more".

I guess others have other opinions based on what they believe.

If high intelligence/ high education was a guarantee against spiritual deception, then every highly intelligent person would be Christian and leading others into faith in Jesus.

Every highly educated person would be writing flawless evangelical pieces relevant for people in their circle.

That is completely wrong though. Richard Dawkins is a militant atheist.

Overvaluation of human reasoning/imagination, misquoting bible verses and justifying sin/s has led to many people rejecting Christianity altogether/ creating their own PERversion of Christianity.
Emmanuel Swedenborg was an absolute genius of his era but his religious works are madness.

There are many examples of allegedly CHRISTIAN pastors falling away into heresy and serious sin as well because they somehow they convinced themself that it was excusable for them personally. https://www.ranker.com/list/pastors-that-fell-from-grace/genevieve-carlton

Maybe my lack in logical thinking skills is the cause of my problems in reading the Bible.

No, you are willing to believe ANYTHING that contradicts mainstream Christian teachings (because they are more in accord with JAHtruth's belief system). That is a big difference.
Whatever supports what the bible doesn't say, you are more likely to accept.

You demonstrated that trait during our exchange starting here. https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/comparison-of-jahtruths-the-way-home-or-face-the-fire-to-the-bible-part-3.10921/#post-556614

Even though I knew it was going to be pro-Quran, I decided to give the link as I thought it might be good for any related conversation thread RE Bible and Quran too.

You said you had already seen the link before and that you personally approved of it.

In contrast when I looked at the links on another page I discovered immediately it showed support for heretical Gnostic Gospels as well. (You saw nothing wrong with that at all.)

You demonstrated you would rather believe heretics that a non-Christian religion loves than actual eyewitnesses (remember that the apostles walked with Jesus Himself).

I don't believe that is due to you lacking logic, therefore you need to ask yourself what has made you personally willing to consciously DECIDE to overlook facts/ evidence (that is essential to remain a believer in JAHtruth).

 

[JoChris]

8:87 Learn true and lasting values — the values of heaven, i.e. love and unselfishness.

8:88 Blessed are the poor, in worldly possessions, who are rich in spirit, i.e. heavenly-wealth, for theirs will be the Kingdom of heaven (Matt. 5:3).
Overall that sounds reasonable, but compare it to the whole Sermon of the Mount, which starts at Matthew chapter 5.

Matthew 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

That is all it says! TWHOFTF adds so much emphasis on wealth/ poverty.

8:89 “INDIVIDUAL socialism”, from personal choice, is the ONLY way (Jesus).
That is not in the bible.
It is quite a vague term so I was curious to see if other writers have used it at all.

For "individual socialism" the only result via Google was "the soul of man under socialism" Wikipedia.
Oscar Wilde apparently used the term, but the entry didn't make it any clearer.

Duckduckgo gave no results.

TWHOFTF mentioned another work of Oscar Wilde in an earlier chapter " the picture of Dorian Gray", which I addressed starting here https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/comparison-of-jahtruths-the-way-home-or-face-the-fire-to-the-bible-part-2.10896/page-23#post-556219

I wonder what attracted AJH to Oscar Wilde so much? [a rhetorical question really...]

You did not come here to have a good time (which usually actually means a bad time), and collect material wealth, you are in prison, on “Death-Row”, and you came here to learn to be good; earn your pardon; and right to go home; or, if not; be executed.

Gnosticism style beliefs demonstrated again.

 

[JoChris]

Reminder: words like "the force", "channeling", "channels" are not in the bible. They are used in Star Wars movies and occultic religions however.

8:90 Jesus used “The Force” to work the miracles in the New Covenant.
What was the purpose of Jesus' miracles?
According to the bible Jesus did miracles because it was to prove His deity.
God does not have to use a force of any variety!

Reminder (from the very first chapter of TWHOFTF):
1:6 Prince Michael, God’s eldest son; known by many names here on Earth, one of which is Jesus/Saviour, Commander-in-Chief of the JEDI Knights, who have been the guardians of the heavens for zillions of years; fought with his knights, using the “Light” and “The Force”, which is the force of love. God, Who is pure love and the source and controller of His “Force”; love, the greatest force in creation; defeated Lucifer and his followers, some of whom were misled, by lies, into fighting against God....

When you have “blind faith”; which does not really mean blind, it means 100% (total) faith in God, with your eyes (human and spiritual) WIDE-open, to all the angles from which Satan can use people to attack you; you can then become a channel for “The Force”.

Reminder from end of first chapter [spacing added]:

I have already stated, in the introduction, that this Book is fact, NOT fiction. The word JEDI is an abbreviation for JEsus DIsciple.

Before any of you start to fall into the trap, of mistakenly thinking that this Book is a science-fiction novel; based on “Star Wars”, by George Lucas, just because I have used the word JEDI; I am going to explain to you, something that George Lucas does not know, yet.

George Lucas, quite naturally, believes that he wrote “Star Wars”, but, in reality, he was told, telepathically, what to write, in Episodes IV-VI inclusively, and then forced to make those episodes first, by the very “Force” to which the “Star Wars” films refer, as a very important step in the preparation of mankind, for the long awaited truth, about the real reasons for human life on Earth (what on Earth am I doing here?); the meaning of life and its purpose, contained in THIS Book.

This Book is science-fact. YODA is an abbreviation and refers to a training-book. George Lucas, not understanding that he was being told telepathically, thinks that “Star Wars” came from his imagination, which is a perfectly normal human reaction, that many people have had over the centuries.

Rudyard Kipling thought that he wrote “IF”; Oscar Wilde thought that he wrote “The Picture of Dorian Gray”; Joe Darian thought that he wrote the words to “The Impossible Dream”, and the list is endless.

Although “Star Wars” is set as sci-fi, in a distant galaxy, to make it entertaining, it actually refers to this galaxy and life on Earth, and contains the truth, which is demonstrated symbolically. What Luke Skywalker learns, during the “Star Wars” films, Episodes IV-VI inclusive, is what each and every one of you HAS to learn, to be able to survive, get out of here and go HOME. Episodes I-III are meaningless fiction.

What a powerless god AJH has compared to the Christian God.
Star Wars movies have left way too much of an imprint on him.

If you do not have blind faith, you block the channel, and “The Force” can neither flow through you, nor into you, to heal you.

So God can only use us if we are 100% believing in him, 24/7, 365 days a year!!!!

 

[JoChris]

For further research on the following issue and any other bible verses, please bookmark https://www.preceptaustin.org/

8:91 “The Force” came from God and flowed through Jesus, and he directed it, into the people who had unblocked-channels (blind faith), and “The Force” cured them. God, through Jesus, ONLY cured the people who had total faith that Jesus was His Son incarnated, and that he could cure them.

This is an absolutely disgraceful statement from a man who claims to be Jesus in a new body.

Only anti-Christian religions and cults make similar claims in an attempt to make Jesus only human [so we can do the same as him if we only we have enough faith or "force"].

A theologian could do a whole book addressing the above heresy.

No bible references given of course, because the above statement cannot be defended by the bible or any CHRISTIAN doctrines. AJH is in fact contradicting the bible a great deal there.

Jesus did miracles in front of Jewish leaders who did NOT believe.
Jesus did miracles on people who did not know who He was.
The authority and power of Jesus

8:92 Your (100%) faith (in God’s power and in me) has made you whole, and your sins (from your previous-lifetime, which caused you to be blind; crippled or sick, as a punishment in this lifetime) are forgiven you. Go and sin no more (John 9:2).

Are YOUR channels unblocked yet?

So we are to believe in both God and Anthony John Hill (JAHTRUTH) to make us whole.

--
8:93 Faith is the key to the “magic” door - the door to miracles, and a God-guided life, walking always in the Healing Light, and the entrance to the Kingdom of God, and the return of your IMMORTALITY; real memory; identity and super-human powers.

8:94 Samson used “The Force” to pull down the heathen temple; David’s stone was guided by “The Force” to kill Goliath; “The Force” parted the Red Sea; etc.; etc.; etc.

8:93- 94 is just an expansion of 8:91.
People, please use https://www.biblegateway.com/ and keyword search those names.
If you actually read the passages you will see that it was FAITH in God, not a force from themselves that made the men of God able to do miracles.

 

[JoChris]

Yes the video is long, but it it directly addresses all the "force" teachings that TWHOFTF supports in 8:91

The whole channel is perfect for all Christians who are interested in addressing conspiracy theories and the Truth movement.

Maybe Youtube is shadowbanning it (as it deserves way more traffic than it appears to receive)! The amount of research he puts into all his videos is impressive.

 

[JoChris]

There is a mixture of truth and lies here. As usual, TWHOFTF appears to give bible references, that you are supposed to believe are used in context.

That is a common tactic of cults: e.g. Jehovah's Witnesses do this a great deal in their "Awake!" magazines too to support their extrabiblical false prophecies - CARM.org but they are WAY more subtle about it.

8:95 Jesus was transfigured on the mountain, and his face shone like the Sun, because his soul (Being of Light, Ch. 1) was shining through his face (like Moses), and his clothes were white and shining, “as white as the light, and whiter than anything on Earth could make them” (Matt. 17:2 & Mark 9:3 & Luke 9:29).

This was caused by a force-field, put around him to protect the body, that he was using, from the heat and effects of the spaceship. Then, after God had finished speaking to Jesus, a “bright” cloud came over the disciples, and the smoke of the cloud engulfed them (Luke 9:34), and God said, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased: hear him” (Matt. 17:5).
These are the transfiguration accounts.
Matthew 17:1-9
Mark 9:1-9
Luke 9:28-36

AJH inserted all his human reasoning to justify his UFO "theology".
Read the bible passages. There is nothing to suggest force-field, heat, or spaceship/s.
There is nothing to suggest clouds are in fact "clouds".


How then, can Christ (the spirit within the man)...

WRONG.
What does Christ mean? Bible study tools
Christ [N] [H] https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/smiths-bible-dictionary/christ.html
anointed, the Greek translation of the Hebrew word rendered "Messiah" (q.v.), the official title of our Lord, occurring five hundred and fourteen times in the New Testament. It denotes that he was anointed or consecrated to his great redemptive work as Prophet, Priest, and King of his people. He is Jesus the Christ ( Acts 17:3 ; 18:5 ; Matthew 22:42 ), the Anointed One. He is thus spoken of by ( Isaiah 61:1 ), and by ( Daniel 9:24-26 ), who styles him "Messiah the Prince."


not be the Son of God, when God Himself said so? God NEVER lies; lies are Lucifer the Devil’s invention (John 8:44 / King of kings’ Bible, John 8:35).



It is statements like the above that make JAHtruth totally incompatible with Islam, the other religion AJH pretends he believes in as well as Christianity. [AJH deliberately muddled with the Quran as well as the bible, Muslim extremists wouldn't be too impressed...]

12. O People of the Book! Do not go to extremes regarding your faith; say nothing about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger of Allah and the fulfilment of His Word through Mary and a spirit created by a command from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers and do not say, “Trinity.” Stop!—for your own good. Allah is only One God. Glory be to Him! He is far above having a son! To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And Allah is sufficient as a Trustee of Affairs. [Surah An-Nisa; 4:171]

 

[JoChris]

Despite frequent bible references, I put 8:96 in green because TWHOFTF did that to make the following more first-person message look "legit".

I am saying this up-front:
I realise it may appear to some I am being pedantic about word changes below - but minor changes on a compass are enough to send people WAY off course.
What TWHOFTF does below is a tool that word-gaming politicians, con-artists and abusers do to deceive people into voting for them/ falling for their tricks.

NOTE: The context is important. All the bible passages are addressing the [Jewish] leaders - scribes and the Pharisees.

8:96 Jesus said that you must NOT be priests (Matt. 23:8),

Yes, AJH altered the word rabbi to priest in his PERversion of the bible.

(KJV) Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

{KoK) 23:8 But be not ye called priest (etc.): for One is your Teacher, [even] Christ; and all ye are brethren.

AJH deliberately pretends the word is priest because he knows 20th-21st century people think of a Roman Catholic priest.
He knows nearly no-one would notice his alterations!!!

and that you must NOT LISTEN TO PRIESTS (Matt. 15:14 & 16:12 & 23:9, 13, 24),
Please look at the verses in context. They are JEWISH leaders!!!
Matthew 15
Matthew 16
Matthew 23

but to go into your closets (in private) to speak to God, and DO His Will.

He did not give the bible reference for this one - that was also deliberate. Matthew 6:1-8
5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

He said that you MUST DO and LIVE the Lord’s Prayer (Matt. 6:9-15),
There is nothing about living the Lord's prayer. The prayer itself ends at verse 13.
Matthew 6:9-13

9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name....

Verses 14-15 refer to forgiveness ONLY.

14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:
15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Yes forgiving others is God's will, but it is not what TWHOFTF implies.

Forgiving does not mean living. That is downright deceptive.

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not just repeat it like a silly parrot, that does not UNDERSTAND what it is saying,

The bible says it much better, and without the derogatory tone.

Matthew 6:7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him.

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and that includes the singing of hymns and the communal, or individual, saying of written-prayers.

That really sounds like AJH/ JAHtruth does not believe in any type of formal worship/ prayer to God.

That would be an interesting topic for further discussion elsewhere, assuming any of JAHtruth's spokespeople would actually interact off their usual script and propaganda threads.

 

[JoChris]

The following section is fairly self-explanatory.

8:97 Repeating written-prayers, once a week, or up to 5 times a day, is NO good,


That is a caricature of Christians.
Bible-believing Christians pray to God both in church services and in private prayer.

because the rest of the time you are automatically talking to Satan (Matt. 6:7).
Actual verse:
7 But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.

No mention is made of Satan in verse 7. It is interesting that the next "passage" is completely non-biblical though.


8:98 Praying, MEANS, talking to God, mentally (telepathically), 24 hours a day, EVERY day, and CONSULTING Him on EVERYTHING, and getting His guidance and help, to enable you to be able to DO His Will (Sura 42:38)(Ephesians 6:18 & 1st. Thessalonians 5:17).

8:99 Initially, it will be a conscious effort, but, eventually, when you have had enough practice, it will become as natural and unconscious an effort, as breathing.

Here it expands upon 8:75-76 https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/the-way-home-or-catch-the-fire-compared-to-bible-other-religions-part-6.10977/page-5#post-564509.

Who knows how many JAHtruthers might of been caught into this cult, believing the feelings and impressions they received if they had accepted what Anthony John Hill said....

It sounds very similar to the Mormons' "burning in the bosom".

8:100 If you are not actually talking, you must still continue to listen, and acknowledge His presence, and the contact; keeping the line open. The moment you break, or allow the contact to be broken, you are allowing an opening for Satan to use, and he will “jump straight-in, with both feet.”

That looks like a JAHtruther must have their mind constantly communicating with God or they will immediately be at risk of hearing Satan.
There is a difference between being spiritually watchful and sober, remaining alert for temptations and seeking to know/ do God's will....

and doing what AJH says above. You poor JAHtruthers. You must be living in a low state of terror at all times.

 

[JoChris]

Here TWHOFTF goes back to misquoting bible verses to supporting the ebook's claim again.

8:101 Christ foretold of his Second Coming, to his disciples, at the “Last Supper”.
That is deliberately vague. Jesus spoke to his disciples before the Last Supper about His Second Coming as well.

When Christians talk about the Second Coming, it is an actual event that all people will know about!
Second coming of Jesus - bibleinfo

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Jesus will be SEEN by everyone. It won't be a man declaring he was Jesus born in a new body, in Sheffield UK 1948.

He told them that he had many things, still to tell them, but that they could not bear to hear them yet (John 16:12), but that the time would come (his Second Coming), when he would not talk in proverbs, or parables, and would show them clearly about God (John 16:25 & Rev. 10:7).
John chapter 16 has nothing to do with the Second Coming.

25 These things have I spoken unto you in proverbs: but the time cometh, when I shall no more speak unto you in proverbs, but I shall shew you plainly of the Father.
26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:
27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Revelation chapter 10 has nothing to do with the Second coming.
7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

 

[JoChris]

8:102 He said the Second Coming would be, at a time when they would not think that he was coming (Luke 12:40),

Note: 10 chapters ahead of the Last supper (Luke 22)
Luke 12:36-40
and that he would enlighten the whole world (Matt. 24:27, N.B. Luke 17:24-37 & Rev. 10:7),
Please look at the surrounding verses. - the Gospel of Matthew is first book, and Luke 3rd book of NT.

Matthew 24
Luke 17
Revelation is at the END of the New Testament . Matthew and Luke are the 1st and 3rd book of NT.
Revelation 10

and that God’s truth (Gospel) must be PUBLISHED, amongst all nations (Mark 13:10).

You learn something new every day.... it actually does say published. https://www.thefreedictionary.com/published
it says this after the definition:
[Middle English publicen, publishen, to make known publicly, from alteration of Old French publier, from Latin pūblicāre; see publication.]

More modern translations use the word preach/ announce/ proclaim, probably because 21st century people assume publish = printed/ online text.

Mark 13:10 - Witnessing to All Nations

And the gospel must first be proclaimed to all the nations.

biblehub.com

Look at the context though. Mark 13

The context sounds nothing like putting the words ONLY into print/ posting material online.

9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.
10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.
11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

Mark 13:10 commentaries

He said that the churches and their riches would be demolished (Luke 21:5-6),
WRONG.
Even Kok says temple.

21:5 And as some spoke of The Temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,

Luke chapter 21
KJV Luke 21: 5 And as some spake of the temple, how it was adorned with goodly stones and gifts, he said,
6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

.... and that all REAL and PRACTISING believers, of ALL NATIONS, who had the mark of God in their foreheads (direct communication with God), would survive the Last-Day (Luke 13:29).
Read the Luke 13:24-30 passage for context.

29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

That is AJH's doctrine only.

 

[JoChris]

Reminder: God does not bring confusion.

1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

8:103 Do you have the mark?
Christians, when you read that - did you immediately think of Revelation chapter 13 (like me?):

I assume that is just a follow-up of AJH's weird claim at end of 8:102.

Jesus left a question about the Second Coming: “Nevertheless when the Son of man comes, shall he find faith on the Earth?” (Luke 18:8).
For context Luke 18:1-8

What do you think? Is there faith on the Earth today?
f Christians believe the bible, yes they do believe that (although there are way fewer genuine believers than we would like to think).
Matthew chapter 16

Matthew 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.