Comparison of JAHtruth's "The way home or face the Fire" to the bible (part 2)

[A Freeman]

Romans 8:1-14
8:1 [There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk NOT after the flesh, but (with their Being) after the Holy Spirit.
8:2 For The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
8:3 For what The Law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending His Own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
8:4 That the Righteousness of The Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not following the flesh, but following the Spirit.
8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
8:6 For to be carnally minded [is] death; but to be spiritually minded [is] life and peace (John 3:5-6).
8:7 Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to The Law of God, neither indeed can it be.
8:8 So then they that are in the ways of flesh CANNOT please God.
8:9 But ye are not of the flesh, but of the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is not his.
8:10 And IF Christ [be] in you, the body [is] dead because of sin; but the Spirit [is] life because of righteousness.
8:11 But if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also revitalize your mortal bodies by His Spirit that dwelleth in you.
8:12 Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.
8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body (crucify the "Self"), ye shall live.
8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the (adopted) sons of God.

 

[A Freeman]

1 John 2:1-11
2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2:2 And he is the atonement for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world.
2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, IF we keep His Commandments.
2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth NOT His Commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is NOT in him.
2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old Commandment which ye had from the Beginning. The old Commandment is The Word which ye have heard from the Beginning.
2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true Light now shineth.
2:9 He that saith he is in the Light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
2:10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the Light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.
2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not where he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

 

[A Freeman]

1 John 3:4-15
3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also The Law: for sin is the transgression of The Law.
3:5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our (past) sins; and in him is no sin.
3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he (Christ) is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the Beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever DOETH NOT righteousness is NOT of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the Beginning (Alpha), that we should love one another.
3:12 Not as Cain, [who] was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And why slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto Life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not [his] brother abideth in death.
3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath Eternal Life abiding in him.

 

[The Sojourner]

We grow weary in our present bodies, and we long to put on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. 3 For we will put on heavenly bodies; we will not be spirits without bodies.

We (in our present bodies) wear clothing.
We are not the clothing.
But when your clothing has worn out, you can put on new clothing.
That's not difficult to understand, which I'm sure is why Paul used it as an analogy.

Are you the car or are you the driver?

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It's suspicious you leave out the following verse:

Ecclesiastes 3:21
Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the animal goes down to the earth?

I don't for a second believe that was accidental.

It was not until Christ came, that more about what happens to the soul was explained. How could Solomon have known it as it had not yet been taught by Christ? The observations of preceding verses do not change due to the question.

 

[A Freeman]

Sura 7:11-18
7:11. It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the (fallen) angels submit to Adam (human limitations), and you submitted (Luke 9:55); not so Iblis (Lucifer); he refused to be of you who submitted.
7:12. ("I AM") said: "What prevented thee from submitting when I commanded thee?" He said: "I am better than he: Thou didst create me from fire (energy), and him from clay."
7:13. ("I AM") said: "Get thee down from this: it is not for thee to be arrogant here: get out, for thou art of the meanest (of creatures)."
7:14. He said: "Give me respite till the Day they are raised up."
7:15. ("I AM") said: "Be thou among those who have respite."
7:16. He said: "Because thou hast thrown me out of The Way, lo! I will lie in wait for them on Thy Straight Way:
7:17. "Then will I assault them from before them and behind them, from their right and their left: nor wilt Thou find, in MOST of them, gratitude (for Thy mercies)."
7:18. ("I AM") said: "Get out from this, disgraced and expelled. If any of them follow thee,- Hell-Fire will I fill with you all (Matt. 8:22).

Sura 15:26-47
15:26. We created man from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;
15:27. And the Being (of light) race, We had created before, from the fire of a scorching wind.
15:28. Behold! Thy Lord said to the (fallen) angels: "I am about to create man, from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape;
15:29. When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit (Gen. 2:7), fall ye down into submission inside him."
15:30. So the (fallen) angels submitted themselves (Luke 9:55), all of them together:
15:31. Except Iblis (Lucifer): he refused to be among those who submitted themselves (to human limitations).
15:32. ("I AM") said: "O Lucifer! What is your reason for not being among those who submitted themselves?"
15:33. (Lucifer) said: "I am not one to submit myself to man, whom Thou didst create from sounding clay, from mud moulded into shape."
15:34. ("I AM") said: "Then get thee out from here; for thou art rejected, accursed.
15:35. And the Curse shall be on thee till The Day of Judgment."
15:36. (Lucifer) said: "O my Lord! give me then respite till The Day the (dead) are raised."
15:37. ("I AM") said: "Respite is granted thee-
15:38. Till the Day of the Time appointed."
15:39. (Lucifer) said: "O my Lord! Because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on the Earth, and I will put them ALL in the wrong (Isaiah 5:20-21),-
15:40. Except Thy servants among them, sincere and purified (by Thy Grace)."
15:41. ("I AM") said: "This (way of My sincere servants) is indeed The Way that leads straight to Me (John 11:25).
15:42. For over My servants no authority shalt thou have, except such as put themselves in the wrong by following thee."
15:43. And verily, Hell-Fire is the promised abode for them all (Matt. 8:22)!
15:44. To it are seven Gates: for each of those gates (the Seven Deadly Sins) is a (special) class (of sinners) assigned.
15:45. The righteous (will be) amid Gardens and Fountains (of clear-flowing water).
15:46. (Their greeting will be): "Enter ye here in Peace and Security."
15:47. And We shall remove from their hearts any lurking sense of injury: (they will be) brothers (joyfully) facing each other on thrones (of dignity).

Sura 17:61-65
17:61. Behold! We said to the (fallen) angels: "Submit unto Adam (man)": you submitted (Luke 9:55) except Iblis (Lucifer): he said, "Shall I submit to one whom Thou didst create from clay?"
17:62. He said: "Seest Thou? This is the one (Adamic man) whom Thou hast honoured above me! If Thou wilt but respite me to the Day of Judgment, I will surely bring his descendants under my sway - all but a few (Rev. 14:3)!"
17:63. ("I AM") said: "Go thy way if any of them follow thee, verily Hell-Fire will be the recompense of you (all)- an ample recompense (Matt. 8:22).
17:64. "Lead to destruction those whom thou canst among them, with thy (seductive) voice; make assaults on them with thy cavalry and thy infantry; mutually share with them wealth and children; and make promises to them." But Satan promises you nothing but deceit.
17:65. "As for My servants, no authority shalt thou have over them:" enough is thy Lord for a Disposer of affairs (John 11:25).

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the Life: he that believeth me (NOT Lucifer's lies), though he were "Dead" (under God's death sentence for treason - Rev. 12:7-9; Matt. 8:22; Luke 9:55), yet shall he Live (be pardoned):

 

[Infinityloop]

Subject: Jahtruth belief in spirits without bodies and plentitude of evidence against it.
Their response:

We (in our present bodies) wear clothing.
We are not the clothing.
But when your clothing has worn out, you can put on new clothing.
That's not difficult to understand, which I'm sure is why Paul used it as an analogy.

Are you the car or are you the driver?

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Completely irrelevant reply.


Subject: Sojourner left out the verse mentioning the spirit in animals
Their response:

It was not until Christ came, that more about what happens to the soul was explained. How could Solomon have known it as it had not yet been taught by Christ? The observations of preceding verses do not change due to the question.

Red herring. You left out a verse and are now changing the subject because I showed you to be lying with the passage that you yourself quoted.

 

[The Sojourner]

Subject: Jahtruth belief in spirits without bodies and plentitude of evidence against it.
Their response:



Completely irrelevant reply.


Subject: Sojourner left out the verse mentioning the spirit in animals
Their response:



Red herring. You left out a verse and are now changing the subject because I showed you to be lying with the passage that you yourself quoted.

Strawman, but OK Infinityloop, since you have all the answers already and are never ever wrong about anything, it must be a red herring. You better quote the whole Quran in future, to not leave out any verses.

 

[The Sojourner]

Again, the Gospel of Thomas is not in the bible.

Why you want to believe you are merely an animal is beyond me. Suggesting that humans have an animal nature is a Darwinian concept.

P.S. I have had enough for today.

The Secret of Dog Human Communication

How are humans and dogs similar? How are they different? And what do or can they learn from one another? For an insightful, spiritual, and simple response, please see the blog entitled, “The Secret…

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There is a link to a blog post in the above, that gives an analogy about humans in a post about dog-human communication secrets.

 

[JoChris]

The Secret of Dog Human Communication

How are humans and dogs similar? How are they different? And what do or can they learn from one another? For an insightful, spiritual, and simple response, please see the blog entitled, “The Secret…

hannahmichaels.wordpress.com

There is a link to a blog post in the above, that gives an analogy about humans in a post about dog-human communication secrets.

If you, @Infinityloop and @A Freeman are interested, in approx twenty minutes the USA Christian apologist Vocab Malone is there to take questions. He specialises in Black Hebrew Israelites. He is a close friend of David Wood so he knows a lot about Islam.

He did an informal commentary show on British Israelites and Charles III the other day. He thinks out loud a bit.
He welcomes a lot of feedback and takes calls too.
That is totally up to you of course.

Sometimes he does spontaneous rap, he is pretty good at it.

 

[The Sojourner]

Mind+body dualism is not an ancient Biblical or Quranic teaching. We contain components but we aren't one of those components in isolation.

Ever meet someone who has been out of their body and try tell that to them.

2 Corinthians
5:6 Therefore [we are] always confident, knowing that, whilst we [the Being] feel at home IN the body, we are absent from the Lord:
5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight: )
5:8 We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be OUT OF the body, and to be present with the Lord.
5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether in [the body] or out [of the body], we may be accepted by Him.

10:3 For though we walk IN the flesh, we do not war like the flesh:

12:2 I knew a man in Christ over fourteen years ago, (whether IN the body, I cannot tell; or whether OUT OF the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; ) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether IN the body, or OUT of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; )

Met a man once, who told in detail how he went out of his body, and saw it from outside, and his family around it thinking he was a goner, but then after a short while he was back in it.

It happens to many people who have had car accidents, etc.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

The "law vs grace" thing for is of particular historical concern because both in the 1st century (as well as certain cults in the middle ages) and in the past century, it has been the cause of extreme antinomianism (nowadays liberalism).

If you put yourself in the eyes of a 1st century Jewish person, once you abolish the Torah what morality is there left?

That’s a great question!

Romans 6, 7 and 8 address it. The law remains but it goes from a set of rules into the true nature of a born-again believer through the Holy Spirit.

To a nation with 600+ rules to follow, including not eating prawns and not mixing fabrics in a garment the gospel must have come as a shock to the typical 1st century Jew!

Augustine saw it clearly…

 

[The Sojourner]

3:57 YOUR real conscience is YOU, and what you decide to do in a test. When Satan tempts you, and God tells you, with His good voice, NOT to do what he says, and that what Satan says is wrong, what you then decide to do, is your conscience.

AJH appears to think that everyone's conscience is correct and functioning all the time. We are sinners - sometimes we are very skilled at convincing ourselves that what we do is not wrong, it is justified in our case.

The bolded part that you wrote is true. The heart is deceitful!
That is therefore another example, where knowing The Law is a Blessing, because it makes clear to us beyond any doubt, the difference between right and wrong.
The Law therefore acts as a guardrail for us, as we go along The Way, and a healthy defense, against the deceitfulness of the heart (and also of other's hearts).
So when in doubt, then we should find and get to know the answer, by turning to The Law and the Scriptures, and prevent being deceived by the heart through having the wisdom of The Law/Commandments clarify things again for us and thereby have any doubts removed.

 

[JoChris]

The Secret of Dog Human Communication

How are humans and dogs similar? How are they different? And what do or can they learn from one another? For an insightful, spiritual, and simple response, please see the blog entitled, “The Secret…

hannahmichaels.wordpress.com

There is a link to a blog post in the above, that gives an analogy about humans in a post about dog-human communication secrets.

We have two dogs [whippets]. They are extremely loving, they are extremely intuitive.
They do not control their instincts without strong negative feedback from us.
You cannot reason with them.
They do not choose their behaviour. They only respond.

People are generally not like that unless there is some significant mental disability or mental illness, or if they have given into their personal/ sinful desires so completely they genuinely believe they have no choice/ were born that way.

That is abnormal behaviour for humans. No matter what the average Joe says/ acts like today [after all we get punished socially by the "woke crowd"], we disapprove of people like that.

 

[JoChris]

The bolded part that you wrote is true. The heart is deceitful!
That is therefore another example, where knowing The Law is a Blessing, because it makes clear to us beyond any doubt, the difference between right and wrong.
The Law therefore acts as a guardrail for us, as we go along The Way, and a healthy defense, against the deceitfulness of the heart (and also of other's hearts).
So when in doubt, then we should find and get to know the answer, by turning to The Law and the Scriptures, and prevent being deceived by the heart through having the wisdom of The Law/Commandments clarify things again for us and thereby have any doubts removed.

Matthew chapters 5-7 is Jesus' Sermon on the Mount.
The Jews knew how to outwardly obey the Law; I have heard several preachers say it was probably the time period the Jews obeyed the Laws the best in history.

Jesus shows God examines the heart as well and therefore knows when we are sinning in our heart (even though another person would never know that), even if our actions did not change.

e.g. Matthew 5:27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

If all JAHtruthers were honest with yourselves, you would have to admit you committed the sins mentioned in chapters 5-7 from time to time.

 

[JoChris]

Related:

The Ego and the Self | Vedanta Society of Southern California

vedanta.org

The Platonic Soul | Philosophy

philosophy.tamucc.edu

Life, Death & Gnosis: The Gnostics on the Afterlife

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Thank you again for giving great links RE Gnostics' beliefs.

 

[JoChris]

Anthony John Hill explains further how he believes God communicates with all people, and what will happen if we choose the light side of the force instead of the dark side.

3:71 God talks to the soul, and tells it how to be good. Satan talks to the human-animal-body, that you are using, and tries to get it, to make you do what is wrong for your soul (real you). Your soul (you) could easily control the body you are using, if it were not for Satan. However, because Satan is more powerful than you are, you alone can never beat him. That is why you need God’s help, 24 hours a day, and direct-contact, in order to get it, so that you can do His Will.

3:72 Once you have God’s help, He controls Satan, leaving you free to control your animal and spiritual selves, and things become a lot easier. As you progress, you become more and more dependent on God, and become a “child of God” (adopted), until depending on Him becomes second-nature, and, as He helps you, your faith in, and love for Him, continually increase, and, with that, your inner-peace.

3:73 The more progress you make, the happier and more relaxed you become. Real happiness — spiritual joy and spiritual satisfaction in your own progress, and achievements, both physical and spiritual. As you progress, the tests become more difficult, so the more you need God’s help, as Satan tries harder and harder to pull you back.

3:74 Eventually, you actually get to KNOW God, as a person, and at that point, it is no longer a belief, but a knowledge and loving personal-relationship, of Father and child.

3:75 As you are getting to know God, Satan will be trying harder and harder to pull you back; so you will also get to know him; how he operates and just how evil; sick and insane he really is; from what he does and says to you to try to frighten, or bribe you, into stopping. Once you know Satan, and exactly how he operates, you will then be able to beat him - you have to know your enemy, before you can beat him.

This is what the above made me think of - he likes Star Wars after all.



It sounds like God is Luke Skywalker and Satan is Darth Vader.
[Star Wars nerds - please correct me if I am wrong/ expand further to make my claim clearer).

 

[JoChris]

Despite @A Freeman's love of quoting John chapter 3 verses out-of-context in other entries, so far in JAHTRUTH's "The way home or face the fire" there has not been a single mention of it!!!!! It is the essential passage Christians use to explain our need to be born again to be saved!
(A Freeman must think it is more important than AJH himself!)

Why does the bible say Christians are "born again"? - Bible study tools

3:76 The more you get to know God, the more you see how awe-inspiringly-wonderful; loving; wise; compassionate and merciful He is, and the more you wonder, how you ever managed to be so blind. You also wonder how you ever managed to live without Him, and His “divine” love, surrounding and protecting you from all ills.

3:77 You will then learn to love, and enjoy, doing His Will, and receive the reward of everincreasing spiritual, and therefore true happiness - joy, that no man can take away from you. Then you will be so full of love, peace and joy, that you will actually KNOW what it feels like, and therefore the TRUE meaning of, “my cup overflows (runneth over)”, and fully understand, and LIVE Psalm 23.

Only AJH could make Psalm 23 sound legalistic.




3:78 It is wonderful beyond words, to stand, or live, in the “Valley of the Shadow of Death” and fear nothing, and no-one, knowing that; as long as you believe; He will protect you. Serenity is not freedom from the storm, but peace; brought about by TRUE faith; amidst the storm.

3:79 This kind of peace and joy is not temporary, and fleeting, like silly human peace and happiness; it is eternal, like your soul (providing you survive the Last-Day), and no-one can take it away from you, except you yourself, if you lose your faith.


In AJH's worldview, it is knowledge that saves us, not faith. Understandably he would call believing his teachings "faith", but to believe in JAHtruth is to reject the real Christ of the bible.

Those who get to know God, hear God from "telepathic communication" [nothing like prayer according to the bible] are the ones who will experience this apparent change.

It is now understandable why he included the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas in his so-called "translation" of the bible. It is mystical in nature.



Many religions speak of spiritual ecstasy when they come to faith/ knowledge etc.
Experience alone is therefore not a reliable measure of truth.

 

[A Freeman]

Anthony John Hill explains further how he believes God communicates with all people, and what will happen if we choose the light side of the force instead of the dark side.

3:71 God talks to the soul, and tells it how to be good. Satan talks to the human-animal-body, that you are using, and tries to get it, to make you do what is wrong for your soul (real you). Your soul (you) could easily control the body you are using, if it were not for Satan. However, because Satan is more powerful than you are, you alone can never beat him. That is why you need God’s help, 24 hours a day, and direct-contact, in order to get it, so that you can do His Will.

3:72 Once you have God’s help, He controls Satan, leaving you free to control your animal and spiritual selves, and things become a lot easier. As you progress, you become more and more dependent on God, and become a “child of God” (adopted), until depending on Him becomes second-nature, and, as He helps you, your faith in, and love for Him, continually increase, and, with that, your inner-peace.

3:73 The more progress you make, the happier and more relaxed you become. Real happiness — spiritual joy and spiritual satisfaction in your own progress, and achievements, both physical and spiritual. As you progress, the tests become more difficult, so the more you need God’s help, as Satan tries harder and harder to pull you back.

3:74 Eventually, you actually get to KNOW God, as a person, and at that point, it is no longer a belief, but a knowledge and loving personal-relationship, of Father and child.

3:75 As you are getting to know God, Satan will be trying harder and harder to pull you back; so you will also get to know him; how he operates and just how evil; sick and insane he really is; from what he does and says to you to try to frighten, or bribe you, into stopping. Once you know Satan, and exactly how he operates, you will then be able to beat him - you have to know your enemy, before you can beat him.

This is what the above made me think of - he likes Star Wars after all.

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It sounds like God is Luke Skywalker and Satan is Darth Vader.
[Star Wars nerds - please correct me if I am wrong/ expand further to make my claim clearer).

You are wrong, and again attempting to misrepresent what has actually been shared, to create yet another deceitful strawman argument/lie.

In the Star Wars films, Luke Skywalker is depicted as a truthseeker who is awakening to a much larger spiritual world (Dan. 12:1-2; Eph. 5:14) learning about "The Force" (God) and the struggle between good and evil.

Darth Vader would be representative of the black pope, controlled by the emperor (representative of Satan), as described in 2 Thess. 2:3-12.

Of course the passage you have cited above doesn't even include reference to the film "Star Wars", but you(?) were again very easily manipulated by Satan into posting a bunch of lies, so you can continue to ignore the truthful message contained within the verses above.

How can we be absolutely certain that it was Satan who made think about telling more lies? Because Satan is the father/inventor of lies. This is why you have had dozens of previous lies pointed out to you, and been correctly and lovingly advised that you should remain silent (stop giving your opinion of things, which is really Satan's opinion), just as God has COMMANDED you to do throughout the Bible (e.g. Gen. 3:16; 1 Cor. 11:3; 11:7-9; 14:34-35; Eph. 5:22-29; 1 Tim. 2:11-15; Titus 2:4-5; 1 Peter 3:1-6).

Do you not understand that your continual lying/bearing false witness will guarantee you join Satan in The Fire on Judgement Day (Rev. 21:8)?

 

[A Freeman]

More LIES and misrepresentations. Let's count all of the lies you have told just within this one post, for everyone's benefit (including yours, so you can hopefully begin to see how easily Satan manipulates you into lying).

Despite @A Freeman's love of quoting John chapter 3 verses out-of-context in other entries, so far in JAHTRUTH's "The way home or face the fire" there has not been a single mention of it!!!!!

Here are the Biblical cross references to John 3 found in The Way home or face The Fire by JAH, which anyone who reads it for themselves can find:

TWHOFTF 1:7, 1:14, 3:29, 3:30, 3:31, 4:18, 6:25, 8:23, 8:68, 8:71, 10:8, 11:57

It is also talked about on the Website, e.g. in the article about the The True Meaning of Resurrection

The True Meaning of Resurrection

You're also lying about any out-of-context references to John 3 made on this forum. There isn't even one single out-of-context reference actually made, but you felt the need to tell and promote that lie, to further your satanic agenda. So that's two lies in just one sentence.

It is the essential passage Christians use to explain our need to be born again to be saved!

And yet not one single "Christian" has EVER been "born again" nor saved according to Christ (John 3:13), so this too is a lie (#3 in this post).

(A Freeman must think it is more important than AJH himself!)

Another lie (#4).

Why does the bible say Christians are "born again"? - Bible study tools

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/why-do-we-say-christians-are-born-again.html
Promoting more lies/false teachings (#5), as no "Christian" has ever been "saved" according to Christ (John 3:13). For any doubters, please see 1 John 3:4-10, which proves why no "Christian" has ever been born again, nor knows or loves Christ (John 14:15; 1 John 2:3-4).

3:76 The more you get to know God, the more you see how awe-inspiringly-wonderful; loving; wise; compassionate and merciful He is, and the more you wonder, how you ever managed to be so blind. You also wonder how you ever managed to live without Him, and His “divine” love, surrounding and protecting you from all ills.

3:77 You will then learn to love, and enjoy, doing His Will, and receive the reward of everincreasing spiritual, and therefore true happiness - joy, that no man can take away from you. Then you will be so full of love, peace and joy, that you will actually KNOW what it feels like, and therefore the TRUE meaning of, “my cup overflows (runneth over)”, and fully understand, and LIVE Psalm 23.

Only AJH could make Psalm 23 sound legalistic.https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/why-do-we-say-christians-are-born-again.html

https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-study/topical-studies/why-do-we-say-christians-are-born-again.html
Did JAH actually make Psalm 23 sound "legalistic" or is that the term that Satan put into your mind to say, to again misrepresent (lie #6) the beautiful and truthful explanation of why we NEED to draw closer to God (James 4:8) through obedience (Acts 5:29), thereby getting to KNOW Him (John 17:3)?

Do you not realize that God -- Who is THE Source of ALL Love (God IS Love) -- is the ONLY One Who can actually fill one's cup until it overflows? But He can only do that if you EMPTY your "cup" of the "self" and its silly religious superstitions, traditions, rites, rituals and LIES, all of which prevent one from receiving God's Holy Spirit.

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3:78 It is wonderful beyond words, to stand, or live, in the “Valley of the Shadow of Death” and fear nothing, and no-one, knowing that; as long as you believe; He will protect you. Serenity is not freedom from the storm, but peace; brought about by TRUE faith; amidst the storm.

3:79 This kind of peace and joy is not temporary, and fleeting, like silly human peace and happiness; it is eternal, like your soul (providing you survive the Last-Day), and no-one can take it away from you, except you yourself, if you lose your faith.

In AJH's worldview, it is knowledge that saves us, not faith.

Knowledge of God is what builds Faith (trust in God). So this too is another LIE from you (#7), intentionally trying to misrepresent what Christ (JAH) teaches. Have you no shame?

John 17:3 And THIS is Life Eternal, that they might KNOW Thee the ONLY True God, and Christ the Saviour, whom Thou hast sent.

Understandably he would call believing his teachings "faith", but to believe in JAHtruth is to reject the real Christ of the bible.

As above please. This is just another lie on your part (#8), so that you can continue to pretend that Christ isn't Christ, the same yesterday, today and forever (Heb. 13:8).

Christ ALWAYS teaches us to worship God as our true, spiritual selves (John 4:23-24) and get to know and Love Him through discipline and obedience to His Law and His Will, WHICH BUILD FAITH.

No rationally-minded individual could possibly read the passage you've quoted above and take from it that it is teaching anything that isn't 100% Christ.

Those who get to know God, hear God from "telepathic communication" [nothing like prayer according to the bible] are the ones who will experience this apparent change.

The ONLY Way to get to know God is to spend time with him. So your "nothing like prayer according to the bible" slur is just another lie (#10), even if it is because of your ignorance of God.

It's very sad to see someone attack another (much less attack Christ) for encouraging others to spend time with God and get to know Him. Perhaps you don't even realize in your insanity that you are actually proving "Christianity" obviously does not want people to get to know and love God, nor experience the love, joy, inner peace and healing that only God can provide.

It is now understandable why he included the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas in his so-called "translation" of the bible. It is mystical in nature.

No, this is just another lie (#10), so that you can pretend that directly quoting Jesus is somehow "mystical in nature". That is exactly what the Gospel of Jesus according to Thomas is.

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Please note well the above is quoting Jesus. The passage begins with verse 6 (which you deceitfully omitted), and is as follows:

Thomas 1:6-8
1:6 But The Kingdom is within you and it is without you.
1:7 If you will know yourselves, then you will be known and you will know that you are the sons of the Living Father.
1:8 But if you do not know yourselves, then you are in poverty and you ARE poverty.

Compare verse 6 above with Luke 17:21 below:-

Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, The Kingdom of God is within you.

And compare the references to knowing one's "self" to the multiple references Christ makes throughout the Gospel accounts, as does Paul in his letter to the Galatians, which the Koran/Quran also confirms (Matt. 10:38, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Luke 14:26-27, Gal. 2:20, Sura 6:162, Sura 92:18-21).

There are also the "overcomeths" in Revelation, referring to overcoming one's self. You cannot overcome your enemy (the "self") unless you know who and what it is, and how it operates (Rev. 2:7, 2:11, 2:17, 2:26-28, 3:5, 3:12, 3:21, 21:7).

So, as anyone can see, the Gospel account found in Thomas is in perfect agreement with the rest of Scripture, and thus was wrongfully removed from the Bible, which is exactly why it's been restored to the King of kings' Bible, available as a free gift to the world from Christ (JAH).

Many religions speak of spiritual ecstasy when they come to faith/ knowledge etc.
Experience alone is therefore not a reliable measure of truth.

God is Truth. His Word is Truth (in writing and in the flesh). God's Creation is Truth. And our experiences and interactions with God and His Creation are all designed to bring us closer to God, so that we may get to KNOW Him. Faith (trust in God) is ONLY cultivated through getting to know Him and love Him, and know so that we may know His Will in each and every moment we experience.

How else can God teach us how to discern the Truth from the lies? And knowing that only He can do that, why wouldn't we want to spend every single moment with God (i.e. pray/communicate telepathically with God INCESSANTLY)?

The alternative is this:

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with Fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

 

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@A Freeman, nearly everything AJH says is in contradiction/ distortion of the real bible. What appears to be correct is often out-of-context too.

The quality of AJH's "king of king's bible (and quran)" is so poor in parts it must have been created been direct "telepathic communication" with AJH's God.

e.g. King James version:
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

AJH's "translation" (KoK)
1:1 In the Beginning was the Word (Truth - in Hebrew is Nazir), and the Truth was with God (NOT with Lucifer/Satan the Devil), and the Word was God.


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The bible's promises from God are for those who are in CHRIST Jesus, not a self-declared Jesus reborn [commonly known as reincarnated] in Sussex 1948.

For people who prefer visual images to see how bad AJH's religion is:

Link is from a JAHtruth believer :

73. Christ/ Messiah/ Mahdi Here Now

Christ’s Net Christs.net Christ/Messiah/Mahdi is here now JAHTruth.net/emmau2 & JAHTruth.net/mal4 More proof at Friends of Muad’Dib mtrial.org Heraldic Symbolism in the British Coat…

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