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This might be true in case of fame also, i read a crazy theory:
3 gen is era is finished and 4 gen in era of middle and 5 gen is starting. So 3 gen passed their legacy to 4 gen. Like betes passed to enhpn ( their song pass the mic describes it). So enhypn goona be NXT betes.
Idk what mv it is where suga touches black coated person and that person burns. This exact scene was in one of enphn mv. Everyone is saying enphyn don't know about t*x*t.
Already 5 gen? They are debuting minor idols fastly. 4 gen already over
 

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Already 5 gen? They are debuting minor idols fastly. 4 gen already over
It's getting beyond ridicolous how many minors they are debuting. Also way too many new groups in general imo. I feel like with the newer stuff, they are really running out of concepts, nothing new or exciting at all, I kinda hope that it will go downhill from here, but I have a feeling there will always be enough gullible, vulnerable young people who are gonna spend their money on this stuff. Just a really horrible industry overall..
 

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Already 5 gen? They are debuting minor idols fastly. 4 gen already over
Welp 4th gen was a failure. They didn't exactly set the world on fire lol. It doesn't help that they dance and act like robots, are never darker than a corpse, and lip sync industrial noise they call music. Kpop like Disco is dead!
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(Just some beta kitten hohos backstage looking like extras from the movie Pretty Woman. Nothing to see here folks!)
 

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Welp 4th gen was a failure. They didn't exactly set the world on fire lol. It doesn't help that they dance and act like robots, are never darker than a corpse, and lip sync industrial noise they call music. Kpop like Disco is dead!
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Idk exactly but some are saying for 5 years new gen starts and others are saying for 9 yrs. The thing i felt is there is too much gap between 3 and 4 , too short gap between 4 and 5. Fans are saying that the start of new jeans should be considered as 5 gen as they bought fresh start to music.

But who cares ... When they rush too much will also fall fastly. I hope it ends in 4 or 5 gen can't see 12 yrs debuting in 6 gen
 

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Idk exactly but some are saying for 5 years new gen starts and others are saying for 9 yrs. The thing i felt is there is too much gap between 3 and 4 , too short gap between 4 and 5. Fans are saying that the start of new jeans should be considered as 5 gen as they bought fresh start to music.

But who cares ... When they rush too much will also fall fastly. I hope it ends in 4 or 5 gen can't see 12 yrs debuting in 6 gen
I feel like gen 1 and gen 2 were way more distinct, because of the style in music. Maybe we could say the same for gen 3. But as I sit here right now I couldn't describe what makes gen 4 sound like and look like gen 4. In my opinion, kpop pretty much went down the toilet right when gen 4 supposedly started.
 

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I feel like gen 1 and gen 2 were way more distinct, because of the style in music. Maybe we could say the same for gen 3. But as I sit here right now I couldn't describe what makes gen 4 sound like and look like gen 4. In my opinion, kpop pretty much went down the toilet right when gen 4 supposedly started.
Yes right ..
 

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I feel like gen 1 and gen 2 were way more distinct, because of the style in music. Maybe we could say the same for gen 3. But as I sit here right now I couldn't describe what makes gen 4 sound like and look like gen 4. In my opinion, kpop pretty much went down the toilet right when gen 4 supposedly started.
In my opinion, they are all basically the same...."you see one, you see them all..." They all even look alike... No group is actually excitingly unique...no matter what the gen is...
 

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Welp 4th gen was a failure. They didn't exactly set the world on fire lol. It doesn't help that they dance and act like robots, are never darker than a corpse, and lip sync industrial noise they call music. Kpop like Disco is dead!
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These girls all look like the same person. They have almost the exact same kinds of faces. This is 100% about looks, not music.

Sadly, in kpop in general I think that's what sells. Especially given that BT5 are all about looks now, not music. They haven't been about music since 2016.
 

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I wonder how the new law in SK, making it unlawful to employ minors, will affect this KPop industry. I know they have a way of falsifying the age of their talents...but I hope this law will be enforced...
They'll probably keep on with what they're doing by having the parents sign for the kids, or find some sort of loophole.
 

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They'll probably keep on with what they're doing by having the parents sign for the kids, or find some sort of loophole.
If the parents sign for the kids, then they would be guilty of violating the law against employment of minors...and being complicit with the agency in committing the crime... As for falsifying the true age of the kid, that's another crime which is tantamount to fraud...a deliberate deception to get financial gain... Any responsible SK citizen should be able to check with their National Registry of Births to verify the real age of the minor who is being victimized...
 

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They would never exposed those things ,they know that their career would be at risk.
It's possibly a book of disinformation...but as usual, armees will buy it...and take everything in it...hook, line, and sinker...

It's another money-making scheme of H*be...as if there's not a lot of infos already about betees... The world is already "saturated" with betees' data...what else is there to know...secrets? Some juicy "revelations"? Most likely there will be newly-concocted narratives...

The thing is, they just can't write about things that might "drive away" investors...deception is always the name of the game in this industry...
 
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They would never exposed those things ,they know that their career would be at risk.
You're right but it would be nice if they did. The Johnny's story reminds me of btees. The man who created the group and company was a p***phile. Many boys came forward as young as 11, but he was never charged. Until 2017, men and boys weren't able to be raped under the law. He abused his baseball team, trainees, idols and his country gave him a hero's mourning when he passed.

A video about it gave me insight into why we will never see a major company with abuse allegations. It's seen as burdening others if you tell others that something bad happened to you. I've seen Korean idols say that, and didn't understand. The company and the employees could be hurt by a loss of income if they tell someone.

The most important one is that some of the boys came to love him, and wanted his attention. The age of consent in Japan is 13. It was 12. Coercing and pressure that leads to sex with minors is legal there. Parents would say to their kids, give him your body. The boys on his baseball team joked about him being their first time. One idol dedicated a very romantic song to his memory named Johnny.

We think of Hive in terms of the idols being abused. There's dozens of trainees that will never come forward because it would kill any chances of a career in or outside of kpop. Boys that came forward in Japan were ostracized. He barely paid them anything and his top idol pocketed maybe 17,000 a month at their peak. Their retirement was 70,000 in one payment.

Society hates people that rock the boat. Telling isn't polite and makes other uncomfortable. The YouTuber is Korean and said a lot of this applied to Korean culture too. I'm very disturbed by this video but it's given me a lot of insight into their culture. Mistreated idols risk everything and there's usually no one willing to listen.

The last thing I wanted to say is Johnny would force companies that wanted to work with his idols to give promotions to rookie groups. News outlets wouldn't report the news about his victims because it meant a potential lawsuit, or or they would be harassed. This sounds almost like Hive and Sm.
 

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I wonder how the new law in SK, making it unlawful to employ minors, will affect this KPop industry. I know they have a way of falsifying the age of their talents...but I hope this law will be enforced...
What about Babym0nst3r? They will still have to debut sometime this year or next
 
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