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mollnkü said:
This had me really annoyed when I saw it, clearly newjeans has been pushed a lot lately and the girls have gotten sponsorship after sponsorship with big brands. It annoys me especially because I think they barely have any identity or talent of their own, they just follow orders from their masters, that's it. Not to mention the gross se+ualisation of them, they're basically literal children yet. Just ridicolous. And other people work really hard and never get such opportunities. In general I find all these super new gens are way worse than their predecessors, like they are all way too young and are just empty puppets.
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Your comment describes it perfectly. They make t*t and btees look like paupers who barely had any opportunities compared to NJ. Some opportunities meant for btees members went to the other group. They've made venues include t*t or enpipen but this is different.

Btees waited almost a decade for solo era and ambassador opportunities. Everything is on a plate for this group. It's not proportional to their impact or seniority. Nothing about it makes sense. It's almost like they're influencers first and entertainers last. Some of them were models or acting before they were trainees. The girl that was picked worked in theater and was on Korean TV as a small child.
 
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NicolePC said:
Well, they could be whatever, but we all know that Jungkook can sing and he has shown it on many occasions. This does not mean that he does not make mistakes, because even the best singer could do it.
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He's a way better singer than the other members. Only him and Jh, who is a rapper, can sing. He was probably sick or tired during those concerts. These are human beings, and they rarely got breaks. Sick and tired, they had to work.
 
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delusion.everywhere said:
What she doesn't know if you want to win JK's heart, you have to pay dynamic pricing lol. Everything aside, its tad annoying and stalkerish. If its a man doing that to a woman, it would possibly be considered as a threat.
Celebs just can't live a normal life cuz they were assigned to create a bubble around fans and now they don't know where to draw the line. I say either put up with it or bring something else to the table. Don't flirt on your lives, let's start with that. ;)
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The reverse is also a threat. Sasaengs have poisoned an idol. Sending a celebrity food, gifts, calling them, or waiting by their home won't make them want to be friends or your spouse. It's creepy and he's probably done. Rm usually tries to get him to work with his fans when they cross a boundary, but it's time for him to say enough.
 
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Strawberrypie said:
Your comment describes it perfectly. They make t*t and btees look like paupers who barely had any opportunities compared to NJ. Some opportunities meant for btees members went to the other group. They've made venues include t*t or enpipen but this is different.

Btees waited almost a decade for solo era and ambassador opportunities. Everything is on a plate for this group. It's not proportional to their impact or seniority. Nothing about it makes sense. It's almost like they're influencers first and entertainers last. Some of them were models or acting before they were trainees. The girl that was picked worked in theater and was on Korean TV as a small child.
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This "music industry" is not about music... It's about satanic influence and control... These are not "artists" but "slaves" doing all kinds of "services" for these minions of satan...hiding behind the so-called "big brands..."

Of course, they "prefer to use" these young girls because they know they are more "pliable" in their evil hands...

The "glitz, glamor, fame, & fortune..." are all tools of deception...behind all these...is hell...
 
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e-Enoch said:
This "music industry" is not about music... It's about satanic influence and control... These are not "artists" but "slaves" doing all kinds of "services" for these minions of satan...hiding behind the so-called "big brands..."

Of course, they "prefer to use" these young girls because they know they are more "pliable" in their evil hands...

The "glitz, glamor, fame, & fortune..." are all tools of deception...behind all these...is hell...
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Their handler MHJ, has made sure everyone knows she's the genius behind their success. They've gotten a coke ad, ambassadorships, and now a Di$ney role. What you say makes sense. I've never seen anyone pushed this much before, except btees and they had to wait years for this kind of sponsorships.
 
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Strawberrypie said:
He's a way better singer than the other members. Only him and Jh, who is a rapper, can sing. He was probably sick or tired during those concerts. These are human beings, and they rarely got breaks. Sick and tired, they had to work.
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In fairness, they all can sing...or at least carry a tune, lol...Afterall, they won't be called a music band or a boy group...if not for this basic requirement of a talent...

Jungkook has the "more appealing" singing voice to more armees...maybe... but the others like V, Jin, and RM, and Jhope... have unique vocal qualities as well...Only Jm's voice is "problematic" (many times over the years)...Not sure about Suga's voice...lol

Overall...Betees can sing...but considered average, if compared to the more exceptionally talented singers in KPop...
 
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Strawberrypie said:
Their handler MHJ, has made sure everyone knows she's the genius behind their success. They've gotten a coke ad, ambassadorships, and now a Di$ney role. What you say makes sense. I've never seen anyone pushed this much before, except btees and they had to wait years for this kind of sponsorships.
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MHJ, the "handler," clearly works for the global elites who own the brands, you mentioned... Sadly, this is NOT success for this juvenile group, NJ...but a "tragic journey" for their lives...I hope they will have the opportunity and strength to extricate themselves from this evil control, the soonest...

As for Betees...they are "done" squeezing much of their lifeblood... as a group... they are considered "old" in this satanic industry... the solos, I believe, will not last long also...at most, they might be considered in the B-list of artists going forward...

H*be has not been gaining revenues...the worlwide inflation has tightened the finances of most of the population...the prospects of meta, digital arts, crypto, and the like have become sluggish...

Why is H*be resorting to "dynamic pricing" tactics? How many armees have "renewed their memberships..."? Why is H*be launching "AI artists" now?

Well, H*be's "products and services" are not on the list of essentials... they are non-essentials that people can live without...
 
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Strawberrypie said:
The reverse is also a threat. Sasaengs have poisoned an idol. Sending a celebrity food, gifts, calling them, or waiting by their home won't make them want to be friends or your spouse. It's creepy and he's probably done. Rm usually tries to get him to work with his fans when they cross a boundary, but it's time for him to say enough.
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I think I highlighted that part that its a threat both ways but as its been discussed here pages and pages on about their para-social relationship with their fans which their company enables by all means, the whole dynamic is toxic.
 
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theartbook35 said:
I don't think Hive actually blacklist sasaengs. Armpits claim to know who's on the Hive blacklist, and like, why would Hive release that information? I don't know what the laws in South Korea are, but I can't imagine it's legal for them to release information about someone, even if they are a stalker. Also, the rapline had no security when travelling and sometimes light security (but vocal line had higher security) when travelling for quite a few years. Hive truly do not protect their artists. There's also a JK sasaeng, known as "he@dliner" (replace the @ with a normal lowercase A) who has stalked him forever, threatened him repeatedly, been apparently reported to Hive by armpits numerous times and yet, they are still able to get close to JK. A lot of armpits enable he@dliner's behavior too.
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Yeah I read about her at Quora. But she isn't black-listed still because their company did not considered her a threat may be. Her chats were leaked a year later by another fansite where she was actually whining about or expecting some gesture of appreciation. Of course she is in it for her own gain and could be black-listed by company if the artist is not comfortable. The other fansite or saesang who leaked her texts, why waited whole year, the jealousy among this whole fandom is weird and I say enabled by their company and the fans alike. At the end only the artist suffers. I say simply get a restraining order against people who you are not comfortable with around. Also I read at a blog by an army, that there is a list where all those fansites are mentioned which are blacklisted by their company.
 
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Beautiful said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1654080732262957056
This happens if you give so much liberty. Increasing parasoical imagination by saying can you wash me, can you feed me, see my beautiful inner blabla...... This only happens
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He is always been diplomatic, they all are. Maybe its some sort of inner turmoil he is having, that he can't take it anymore. But you are right, he must refrain from flirting on his lives. His fans are immature.
 
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e-Enoch said:
MHJ, the "handler," clearly works for the global elites who own the brands, you mentioned... Sadly, this is NOT success for this juvenile group, NJ...but a "tragic journey" for their lives...I hope they will have the opportunity and strength to extricate themselves from this evil control, the soonest...

As for Betees...they are "done" squeezing much of their lifeblood... as a group... they are considered "old" in this satanic industry... the solos, I believe, will not last long also...at most, they might be considered in the B-list of artists going forward...

H*be has not been gaining revenues...the worlwide inflation has tightened the finances of most of the population...the prospects of meta, digital arts, crypto, and the like have become sluggish...

Why is H*be resorting to "dynamic pricing" tactics? How many armees have "renewed their memberships..."? Why is H*be launching "AI artists" now?

Well, H*be's "products and services" are not on the list of essentials... they are non-essentials that people can live without...
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The bank collapse in my country and the ones in Asia have caused a lot of companies to tighten their spending. Most wealthy people don't keep money in one bank but in many accounts spread out. They didn't debut trainee a, the assumed successors to btees. Most of the members left and are living normal lives, although one created his own company and debuted as a soloist. Hive is spreading themselves too far, and doesn't have the moneymaking group on tour.
 
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