Discrepancies between the Bible and the “King of Kings” version

[A Freeman]

3:41 So, if you don’t get an answer, you are asking the wrong things, and/or in the wrong way, or you are not yet ready for the answer.
3:42 If and when you start to do His Will, He will also provide for you materially, but only if you BELIEVE He will, and then only what you need , to be able to do His Will, and probably not what you want, which would be wrong for you. If you have more than you need, someone else (Satan) is paying you. Learn to want only what you need to be able to do His Will.
3:43 God will only give you what you need, and no more, so that He can keep you on a short leash and under control, to enable Him to guide you, more efficiently. If He gave you more than you need, He would lose control of you and you may go astray, being then less dependent on His supply continuing. This short leash situation also lets Him test your faith, to the last second, before He supplies your need. If you are doing His work, He knows what you are going to need, before you do, and is already arranging the supply, before you even feel the need.
3:44 That is why Jesus told the man who wanted to be perfect, that, as well as keeping the COMMANDMENTS, as he said he had done all his life, he must sell his possessions and give the money to the poor (the “poor” was the disciples’ collective purse, kitty or bag, that Judas kept - John 12:6), thereby placing himself completely in God’s hands, because only then could God teach, provide for and control him efficiently (Matt.19:21).
3:45 When you work for Him, and thereby your own salvation, it is a partnership - you have to complete the task, and He has to supply the tools and materials. He will, otherwise, how could He expect you to finish the job?
3:46 You just have to have faith, and trust Him. He will not fail you, but He will make you wait, until the last second, to test your faith, in Him and His supply.
3:47 It is like being on a magical mystery tour, and can take you anywhere on Earth, wherever He can use you and teach you best. It is FUN and magic; REAL magic.
3:48 God HAS to provide for you, and for you to eat and drink, in order “to keep body and soul together.”
3:49 So a human-animal-body is ONLY a prison-cell for the soul, within a prison (Earth), millions of miles from home - a maximum security, but open-prison, from which NO-ONE has EVER escaped, and from which no-one ever will.
3:50 That is why mankind, even if allowed, would never find “human” life anywhere, except on this planet. There is life throughout the Universe, but not human-life, because the human body is not needed anywhere else, except on this prison-planet, to serve the sole purpose for which it was designed and created.
3:51 God created the human+being (human-animal-body+soul) so that He can DISCIPLinE the soul (Being), and punish it, if/when it does wrong. A soul, in its free state, is energy and therefore invisible (to the human-eye). It does not feel heat; cold; hunger; thirst or PAIN (in any and all of its various forms), and therefore can not be punished and DISCIPLinEd, only destroyed. Unlike humans, it has no needs (Rev. 7:16).
3:52 It is not possible to teach an evil soul, in its free state, to be good, by sending it to bed with no supper, because it does not get hungry. It is not possible to smack its backside, because it does not have one, and, in any case, it does not feel pain.
3:53 The soul is normally locked inside the human-animal-body, for the lifetime of the body, and is locked-in, in such a way, that it becomes an integral part of the body (Rev. 3:7), and therefore feels whatever the body feels. Then, by inflicting pain on the body, the SOUL feels it, and so, can be punished, to varying, but exact degrees, depending upon what it deserves, by the various types and severities of pain, e.g. physical; mental; heart-ache; hardship; disabilities and deformities; etc.
3:54 This is all designed to teach humility, and the destroying of “Self” (selfishness). All pain is attached to the “Self”; when the “Self” goes, so does all pain. Life is a perpetual crucifixion, designed to destroy your selfishness; greed and materialism.
3:55 God talks to the soul by telepathy, using the good voice, which is the same voice that Satan, using the LIES of religions and superstitious-nonsense, has deceived you all into believing is your conscience. It is NOT your conscience; it is God talking to each and every one of you, by telepathy, via your connection - the Holy-Spirit.
3:56 Many of you say, “Why doesn’t God talk to ME?” He does! To each and every one of you, but YOU don’t LISTEN to Him.
3:57 YOUR real conscience is YOU, and what you decide to do in a test. When Satan tempts you, and God tells you, with His good voice, NOT to do what he says, and that what Satan says is wrong, what you then decide to do, is your conscience. YOU are your conscience, NOT the good voice, and you are each, independently, responsible for YOUR own soul. It doesn’t matter what EVERYONE else does, they are not responsible for YOUR soul. YOU ARE! THEY are responsible for THEIRS, whether they believe it or not.
3:58 Satan talks to your animal body, and has deceived you into thinking that you are no more than a crude, smelly animal, with obscene body- functions, when you are really spirit, and only temporarily imprisoned in the crude, animal body that you are using, at the moment, which has to eat; go to the toilet; get old and wrinkled and die; etc.
3:59 You seem to want to believe Satan, and that you are no better than a smelly animal. You don’t seem to want to be divine again.
3:60 Satan tries to talk you into enjoying what feels physically good, to the animal, e.g. sex; egotism; materialism; selfishness; competition and superiority; the inflicting of pain; killing; beating; depravity and perversion; etc., to try to get you as low as he is, so that you will NEVER be able to go home, and he is the serpent, always eating dust - as low as you can get (Genesis 3:14).

 

[A Freeman]

3:61 You, being really spirit, will never get true and lasting joy, or satisfaction, from animal-pleasures, as nice as they can be. It is self-defeating and a vicious-circle. The more you try, the more you feel you need, and the worse things become. A perfect example of this is nymphomania, where the subject confuses love with sex, which, being animal, does NOT bring true satisfaction and spiritual fulfillment. Satan then (from within) deceives them into thinking, that, if they get enough sex, they will be fulfilled, and they try desperately to get enough sex. Unfortunately, Satan is a liar, and has tricked them, once again, and they run around desperately, in a vicious-circle. The more sex they get, the less fulfilled they feel, so they try even harder and harder, becoming more and more lost; lonely; desperate and confused.
3:62 You are not an animal, you are spirit. Animal pleasures alone will NEVER satisfy your soul’s (your) need for spiritual love, and fulfillment.
3:63 God, the source of spiritual love (God is love), is the answer to EVERY question, problem, or illness in your life. Once you have found God, and acknowledge Him, as your Father, you automatically have the solution to every problem and illness, so long as you have “DIRECT” contact, and do what He tells you to do (His Will).
3:64 Learn to know the difference, between REAL love and animal sex or lust!
3:65 The reason, or logic, behind God designing human+beings, is that the soul has to overcome and control the animal, then use it to give love (spiritual and pure) and affection (human), and to always do for the benefit of everyone. You have to overcome both the animal and spiritual SELFishness, thereby making it twice as difficult to achieve, and so, consequently, making the end result twice as effective.
3:66 This was the demonstration given by Christ, on the cross, when he controlled the animal that he was temporarily using, which was made by Mary’s body, with God’s help, and then used it, for the benefit of everyone on Earth, by taking upon himself the sins of the whole world. He controlled it and used it, to the extent, that he “VOLUNTARILY” suffered the agony of the cross, giving up his human-life, to show people the ULTIMATE example - destroying the self, with PERFECT CONTROL, voluntarily, for the benefit of others. The PERFECT example of UNSELFISHNESS. YOU must learn that degree of CONTROL.
3:67 Two thousand years and NO-ONE understands what the demonstration of the cross REALLY means. The cross is not to be worn around your neck. It is to be worn inside. Hold out your arms, horizontally, look in a mirror, and you will see your cross. Your cross is your selfishness, that you must overcome and destroy. The cross of “SELF-sacrifice”, i.e. voluntary destruction of your own SELFISHNESS, by the giving-up, of your own human, material interests, for the benefit of everyone else’s spiritual well-being, thereby setting a good example, for others to follow, by your

DEEDS NOT WORDS.​

3:68 “I am The Way, follow me,” which did not mean getting up off your backside, and following him down the street. It means that Jesus is the way, that you all have to be, before you can follow him back to heaven (home).
3:69 To do that, you must ask yourself, 24 hours a day, in every situation, what would Jesus do; say; or think, in this situation? Then, before doing; saying or thinking anything, you must wait and listen for, and to, the good voice, then go forwards, guided and protected, to victory.
3:70 Whilst in incredible agony, Jesus said, “Forgive them (you, all of you), because they do not know what they are doing.” The people did not know what they were doing, because they were “out of control”, and in Satan’s control, and that is the very reason why Jesus came, to show “The Way (home)”, in the first-place. The people were “out of control”, because they could not control the animals, that they were locked inside of and using, and had been deceived by Satan, who used their religious arrogance against them.
3:71 God talks to the soul, and tells it how to be good. Satan talks to the human-animal-body, that you are using, and tries to get it, to make you do what is wrong for your soul (real you). Your soul (you) could easily control the body you are using, if it were not for Satan. However, because Satan is more powerful than you are, you alone can never beat him. That is why you need God’s help, 24 hours a day, and direct-contact, in order to get it, so that you can do His Will.
3:72 Once you have God’s help, He controls Satan, leaving you free to control your animal and spiritual selves, and things become a lot easier. As you progress, you become more and more dependent on God, and become a “child of God” (adopted), until depending on Him becomes second-nature, and, as He helps you, your faith in, and love for Him, continually increase, and, with that, your inner-peace.
3:73 The more progress you make, the happier and more relaxed you become. Real happiness — spiritual joy and spiritual satisfaction in your own progress, and achievements, both physical and spiritual. As you progress, the tests become more difficult, so the more you need God’s help, as Satan tries harder and harder to pull you back.
3:74 Eventually, you actually get to KNOW God, as a person, and at that point, it is no longer a belief, but a knowledge and loving personal-relationship, of Father and child.
3:75 As you are getting to know God, Satan will be trying harder and harder to pull you back; so you will also get to know him; how he operates and just how evil; sick and insane he really is; from what he does and says to you to try to frighten, or bribe you, into stopping. Once you know Satan, and exactly how he operates, you will then be able to beat him - you have to know your enemy, before you can beat him.
3:76 The more you get to know God, the more you see how awe-inspiringly -wonderful; loving; wise; compassionate and merciful He is, and the more you wonder, how you ever managed to be so blind. You also wonder how you ever managed to live without Him, and His “divine” love, surrounding and protecting you from all ills.
3:77 You will then learn to love, and enjoy, doing His Will, and receive the reward of ever-increasing spiritual, and therefore true happiness - joy, that no man can take away from you. Then you will be so full of love, peace and joy, that you will actually KNOW what it feels like, and therefore the TRUE meaning of, “my cup overflows (runneth over)”, and fully understand, and LIVE Psalm 23.
3:78 It is wonderful beyond words, to stand, or live, in the “Valley of the Shadow of Death” and fear nothing, and no-one, knowing that; as long as you believe; He will protect you. Serenity is not freedom from the storm, but peace; brought about by TRUE faith; amidst the storm.
3:79 This kind of peace and joy is not temporary, and fleeting, like silly human peace and happiness; it is eternal, like your soul (providing you survive the Last-Day), and no-one can take it away from you, except you yourself, if you lose your faith.
3:80 The Torah, New Testament and Koran are NOT religious Books: they are a guide to going home.

 

[A Freeman]

3:81 Many people think that if they live, what they consider to be a good life, then God will, or should help them.
3:82 It does not work that way, because only God knows what is good. You are bad, or you would not be here, and so is your judgement.
3:83 If you do what you think is good, it is usually wrong, not only for yourself, but for those around you, and the good of ALL. God, being unselfish, always does what is best for all concerned, and not just for one individual. What you think is good, may be good for your body, but not for your soul, which is actually the REAL you, and the only thing of real importance. Why do you think God went to all this trouble, to try to save your soul, instead of just executing you, if you are only a human-animal, that has to die anyway?
3:84 The Lord sent you here, and He is the only one who knows EXACTLY what each soul has to learn, on an individual basis, and therefore, He is the ONLY one who can teach you. THAT is why organized-religions are totally wrong, because they build a wall between you and God, preventing your direct-contact, and your free thinking and reasoning process. This is exactly what Satan wants, and that is why he invented organized-religions.

NEVER under-estimate Satan!!!​

3:85 If you do what you want to do, you are running in circles, doing yourself and no-one else any good, being lost and confused; going nowhere; continually hurting yourself and others; suffering; and Satan will lead you astray and into “The Fire.”
3:86 The shortest distance between two points is a straight line, and, if you do God’s Will, and let Him teach you and help you, you will then be going in a straight line. You will also no longer be trying to swim against the flow, and arrive “home”; in the shortest possible time; with the least possible waste of effort. He will even supply, directly, the energy “Force”, for you to do what He wants you to do, to make it even easier for you, and He will cheer you on to victory.
3:87 God does not want you to be here, He wants you to learn to be good and come home, as soon as possible. That is all that He has always wanted of you. God is very sad, because He misses you and wants you to come home, but He can not let you come home, until He is CERTAIN that you will be good, and not cause any more trouble, or hurt anyone (Micah 6:8).
3:88 Home has many names here, like: Heaven; Nirvana; Valhalla; Utopia; Zion; The Happy Hunting Ground; Paradise; etc., but it is not an ideological, abstract place, it is the Morning Star, which is a real, physical planet.
3:89 How can you do God’s Will, unless you tell Him that you want to do His Will, and ask Him to tell you exactly what He wants you to do, second by second?
3:90 Ask Him privately, with thoughts, not words, and listen for His reply in your mind. Also ask Him to revitalize your Holy-Spirit, and reinforce it. Ask Him to come inside you, and give you the strength, to be able to do His Will and overcome Satan, by teaching you how to use “The Force”.
3:91 No human Prophet can be with you all of the time, to teach you, only God can do that, and He will, if you ask Him to. He is waiting patiently, for you to ask. You are NEVER alone, you just can not see your guardian angels, but they can see you, and they know exactly what you are doing; thinking or saying, every second of your life (Job 42:2).
3:92 Amongst Lucifer’s followers, there were many weak-willed souls, who were misled by him and deceived, by his lies, into fighting against God. There were others, who were really his friends and accomplices, who had helped him plan and organize the rebellion, and who fought eagerly with him, for their own selfish reasons.
3:93 Here in prison, God wanted good to overcome evil, so He used the natural-supremacy of the male-species, and locked Satan’s friends into female human-animals, and the less evil souls into male human-animals, so that the males, being stronger, could control the females, and teach them to be less evil and selfish (1st. Corinthians 11:3 & 1st. Timothy 2:11-12).
3:94 Before we go any further, and some of you WRONGLY decide that I must be a woman-hater, let me state the true fact, i.e. that I LOVE women, more than any man that has ever lived. I will explain the illogicality of your wrong-assumption to you (if you make it), at the end of this chapter, so, for now, please just allow me the benefit of the doubt, accept what I say, and continue reading; for your own good.
3:95 A soul (the real you) has no sex! It is the body, that the soul is temporarily using, that has a sex, so you - the soul - are neither male nor female, nor even human.
3:96 If and when, a soul, locked-inside a female- body, learns to be a perfect woman; in God’s eyes, not yours; it has then earned promotion, and the right to be locked-inside a male-body, in its next human-lifetime (see the Gospel of Thomas, log 114:20-26 / King of kings’ Bible - Thomas ch.16).
3:97 Each time that a human-animal-body, that you have been using, dies, you are unlocked from it and taken onto the Astral Plain (Paradise) (which is here, but in another dimension, that cannot be seen with human-eyes), where you are asked, what you have learned, and you have your now past human-lifetime, that you have just lived, shown to you, and you are told (paradise - “para dice” – in order to be told) what you have done right, and what you have done wrong. That life is then summarized, and the evil; that you have learned in that lifetime; is erased from your memory, along with which human you were, but the good you have learned is retained. You are then sent back, onto this material plain, and locked-inside another body, to learn some more. The kind of body and surroundings will vary, depending on whether you are to be punished and taught humility, or whether you are to be rewarded.
3:98 You can not remember what human you were previously, because that would cause you, and everyone else, a lot of pain, e.g. if an old man died and came back as a baby, remembering who he had been, and went to see his wife (now his widow), from his previous-lifetime, it would cause her; himself and his new parents, a lot of pain and would serve no useful purpose. Another reason, that you are not allowed to remember what human you were, is because; being the materialistic, selfish people that you are; if you could remember who you had been, you would go and try to claim what were your possessions. Wouldn’t you?
3:99 As the object of being here, is to learn to be unselfish; good and un-materialistic; allowing you to remember would be counterproductive. Also, you wouldn’t want to be able to remember being a murderer, or a rapist, or being murdered, would you?
3:100 What you do remember is all the good that you have learned. All those things that you KNOW are right; and that no-one, in your present-lifetime, has taught you; you have learned in your previous lifetimes.

 

[A Freeman]

3:101 If you live a good-life, you advance and shorten your sentence. If you live a bad-life, you go backwards and are punished. If you live a half-and-half type of life, you stay at the same place (same spiritual level), and just get a new body to use.
3:102 The trouble with staying at the same place, or going backwards, is that you are running-out of time to earn your pardon.
3:103 The higher you climb, the harder it gets, and the more chance you have of making a mess of things, and going backwards, so the more you need God’s help.

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3:104 An evil soul can not learn everything it needs to know, as a man, or as a woman; it has to be a gradual progression, from one to the other, in order to learn and gain experience from both.
3:105 After however many female-lifetimes; of going forwards if good, and backwards if bad; that it takes the soul, locked inside a female-body, to learn to be a perfect woman, in God’s eyes; which means a perfect lady, wife and mother; when that human-animal-body, that it is using, dies, and the soul is taken onto the Astral Plain, it is congratulated on its achievement, and is then promoted and sent back into a male-body.
3:106 Once the soul gets a male-body, it has to start all over again, from the beginning, but as a man, going forwards and backwards through many male-lifetimes, until it learns to be a perfect man, i.e. like Jesus the Nazarite. Then, when that animal body dies, the soul is taken onto the Astral Plain, is congratulated on its achievement and sent home to the Morning Star (Rev. 2:26, 28), where it regains its real identity; family; memory; super-human powers; freedom, and does not have to suffer being a human, anymore. It then lives for ever, as its real self, with good people, and can travel freely around the Universe, if it so wishes; or stay at home.
3:107 The souls, that are locked inside female-bodies, are closer to Satan than to God, on a spiritual-level, because they have not yet learned the spiritual -qualities, that they need to have, in order to be able to qualify to become a man. They are therefore much more easily manipulated and used by Satan, and have been used successfully, throughout history, to destroy relatively good men, e.g. Adam and Eve; Samson and Delilah; king Arthur Pen-Dragon and queen Guinevere and the list is endless (1st. Timothy 2:14).
3:108 Allowing yourself to be manipulated and used, by Lucifer (Satan), is what got you sent here. You must learn (will-power), NOT to allow your “Self” to be manipulated, and used by him, before you can go home. The more will-power you learn, to help you resist his influence, the higher spiritual-level you attain. That is why men are on a higher spiritual-level, and harder for him to use, and women are on a lower spiritual-level, and easier for him to use.
3:109 Men are SUPPOSED to love God first, and women second; keeping women under control and teaching them, by setting them a good example, as well as by words and advice (1st. Corinthians 11:3 & 1st. Timothy 2:11-12).
3:110 THAT is why God said, from the beginning, that women can NEVER be equal to men, until they EARN their own right to be a man (Gen. 3:16)(1st.Cor. 11:1-3)(Sura 2:228 & 4:34). Read the Gospel (truth) of Thomas in log 114:20-26 / King of kings’ Bible - Thomas ch.16.
3:111 You can NOT serve God AND be a women’s libber; the two things are TOTALLY INCOMPATIBLE, because God has said REPEATEDLY that women are NOT men’s equal (Gen. 3:16)(1st. Corinthians 11:1-3 & 1st. Timothy 2:11-15)(Sura 2:228 & 4:34). They are also incompatible because they are complete OPPOSITES; serving God is based on humility and accepting His teachings, and women’s liberation is based on arrogance and refusing to accept God’s teachings.
3:112 MAN and not woman was created in God’s image, and FIRST. All of the great Prophets were men, and so were ALL of Jesus’ disciples. NOW you know why. Blue for a boy (God’s colour), and pink or red for a girl (Satan’s colour - RED dragon/serpent). There are clues everywhere in life and in nature. All of the Prophets were masters of their own households.
3:113 The selfish-soul has to be a woman first, to be taught, through motherhood, to be less selfish, and the meaning of lasting spiritual love, instead of human-animal- emotion. Once a woman becomes a mother, she should become less selfish, putting her child’s needs first and her husband’s too, because he provides for, and protects, her and his child. She has to learn self-sacrifice and an understanding of REAL love, instead of emotion (1st. Timothy 2:15).
3:114 Men understand real, spiritual love, better than any woman. Men have already learned to love spiritually, whereas women are emotional (human-animal-emotion). This is proved, by the fact, that when a marriage breaks-up, the woman can have sex with someone else, fall madly (emotionally) in love with them, and never give her husband a second-thought, whilst it takes an average man, between 3 and 5 years to get over the hurt: if he ever does.
3:115 This is because the man’s love is spiritual; real; deep and lasting, whereas the woman’s is emotional; shallow; animal, and, like animals, only temporary; until she reaches a higher spiritual-level, becomes a lady, and closer to qualifying to be a man, i.e. a perfect woman. That is why God, in His great compassion, usually takes the husband first, because the woman can get over the loss easier than the man could, if He took the wife first.
3:116 The soul has to be a woman first, to prepare it for being a man. Being a woman teaches; through the pain of child-birth; self-sacrificing and suffering, in the name of real love (crucifixion), which makes them become less arrogant and less selfish, bringing humility and tenderness. Girls were always brought- up and taught to care for people, to teach them humility and love, through taking care of others, like Jesus taught by washing his disciples’ feet (John 13:5). Nurses are a very good example of this.
3:117 Motherhood teaches self-sacrificing, by putting her children’s needs first, if she is a good mother.
3:118 The fading of a woman’s beauty teaches her humility, and to change her values, from animal-attraction and outward-show, to needing to be loved for her spiritual-qualities, instead of her looks, i.e. spiritual love, instead of animal-attraction or lust.
3:119 Women age, whilst men mature and become more distinguished, unless marred by an evil life.
3:120 This is all designed to teach the soul to be a perfect lady, wife and mother, and to be humble and unselfish.

 

[A Freeman]

3:121 A REAL lady (spiritual-qualities, NOT money, or titles) has already learned special qualities, that are preparing her to become a man, in a later lifetime. She has grace and elegance, WITHOUT arrogance; is 100% feminine (soft; warm; affectionate and loving); is self-sacrificing and humble, towards her loved-ones and people in general; is modest about her body, and does not exhibit her nakedness to anyone, except her husband; is a virgin when she gets married, saving her charms, unspoiled, for the man she loves (a woman, almost always, falls in love with, and never forgets, the man to whom she gives her virginity)(lst. Timothy 2:15).
3:122 A lady has progressed from being an animal, and attracting people with sex, to wanting people to respect and be attracted to her soul, which is the real her.
3:123 She has also learned the difference, between love and emotion, and last but not least, has learned COMPASSION, which is a God-like quality, and the most important qualification needed, to become a man.
3:124 The lowest male spiritual-level, is above the highest female spiritual -level, in terms of the understanding of spiritual-matters, of love and compassion, but, because a soul has had to start again, on becoming a man, there are women who appear to be more intelligent, than some men, in worldly- matters. This is designed, so that the two sexes can help each other, on the upward climb. Mothers; being on a lower spiritual, and more human (physical) level; are equipped to take care of the physical-needs, of the family’s bodies:- feeding; cleaning; nursing; choosing and mending clothes; etc.; and giving affection. Dads; being on a higher spiritual-level, and less emotional; are better equipped to take care of the family’s discipline, and spiritual-guidance.
3:125 Women; as opposed to ladies; are often moral-less, adapting themselves to the morals of their partner, and changing when they change their partner, and they generally have no code of honour.
3:126 People say that women can be vicious; callous; bitchy; catty; emotional (all of which are animal-attributes); materialistic; scheming; have no compassion or pity, and have vicious tempers and tongues - “Hell (Planet Earth) has no fury like a woman’s scorn.”
3:127 Man should firmly, but gently (like God does), use his superior strength and understanding, to maintain discipline and order.
3:128 Women are more materialistic than men, and men just slave their lives away, to buy things for their women, and some work themselves to death, in the process.
3:129 Who wears the jewellery in a family (silly bits of yellow metal and coloured stones), and who has the biggest wardrobe of clothes? (Isaiah 3:16-24).
3:130 Once the soul has become a man, it then has to work towards perfecting its understanding of compassion, spiritual love and self-LESSness. It should be honourable and moral, fighting evil and injustice, and to protect its family, whilst working towards being a perfect (as far as is possible in Hell) man, like Jesus.
3:131 A soul is only as good as its word, and only has the same value as its word of honour. There is no such thing as a special “word of honour”, because every word should be honourable and the truth. “You will NOT bear false witness (tell lies)” – 10 COMMANDMENTS, and in Matt. 5:37, “Let your communication be yes, yes; no, no: for whatever is more than these comes from (d)evil.” Don’t fool yourselves, with thinking that you are getting-away-with telling lies, because you are not, you are only hurting your own souls.
3:132 The two sexes, in marriage, are supposed to become one flesh (Gen. 2:24)(Matt. 19:5 & N.B. 1st. Corinthians 6:16), and soul-mates, becoming not only one flesh, but also one soul, making one complete unified and indivisible body and soul, to help each other spiritually and physically, on their upwards and homeward climb.
3:133 They are supposed to create a loving, stable environment (Garden of Eden), into which to bring children, and to teach their children’s souls to be good; unselfish; compassionate; and to have an understanding of stable and lasting spiritual love.
3:134 This teaches spiritual love, because in a good (God-fearing) family there is no incestual-sex (note: shouldn’t this be incestuous-sex instead?), only pure spiritual Love.
3:135 There are varying degrees of masculinity and femininity, and in order for the two, together, to make one perfect whole, and one flesh, they need to be complementary, as well as compatible.
3:136 A man who is 100% male, needs a woman who is 100% female, and a man who is 75% male and 25% female, needs a woman who is 75% female and 25% male, so that, together, they make 100% male and 100% female, and make one whole flesh (Matt. 19:6 & Mark 10:8).

Female Male
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ONE WHOLE FLESH​

3:137 The two partners must really be SOUL-mates (that is why Jesus could not find one, because he was an “odd-man-out”, and did not belong here, in Hell), becoming one soul, striving to be good, against all the world’s temptations and opposition, clinging to each other, for spiritual survival and LIFE, until their human-death.
3:138 The family is supposed to cling together, against all odds, “come Hell (Earth) or high water (Noah).”
3:139 Unfortunately, marriages are now based on material, and therefore superficial-values, instead of spiritual, pure love-values: so they do not work. The partners stop trying and are tempted by adulterers, and money-values, and the marriage breaks-down. Both partners must keep God’s COMMANDMENTS, and help each other to overcome temptation and difficulties.
3:140 The man is supposed to set a good example for the family, and teach them, from his higher level of spiritual-understanding, and the woman is supposed to learn, from him, and help him to be a GENTLEman and to teach their children, how to be LADIES and GENTLEMEN. The wife should
NEVER try to undermine, and castrate (metaphorically) her husband, but should do her best to encourage him to be a man (1st. Timothy 2:9-15).

 

[A Freeman]

3:141 A family is like a ship (Ark), and, IF it is going to float and not get wrecked, it has to have a captain (father - like in the British Royal Navy) and a good first-mate (wife), cook and crew, etc.
3:142 Just like a good first-mate is invaluable to a captain, a good woman can help to make a good man, and a bad woman could break him (and vice-versa), if he let her, by loving her more than God (the Divine navigator, to steer a straight course home).
3:143 That is why a woman should love; honour; cherish and OBEY her husband (unless he is trying to get her to do wrong), through good and bad times (and not leave a sinking-ship - but help with the bailing-out), until death, and learn from him, and help and encourage him to be good.
3:144 From arrival in Hell (Earth), to qualifying to go home, everything is designed to teach unselfishness, by the perpetual crucifixion of “Self”.
3:145 When the “Self” goes; and you are no- longer addicted to material-things, but prefer to be addicted to God (good) and spiritual joy and richness; the pain goes with it. The pain is attached to the “Self”, to encourage you to lose it. When you have lost the “Self”, you can go home, where everyone is unselfish, and everyone loves everyone (spiritually), and you can trust absolutely everyone - HEAVEN.
3:146 There have been misguided (by Satan) fanatics, throughout history, who have known that women were more evil (more easily manipulated by the devil) than men, and have killed them, whilst believing that they were doing God’s work, by destroying evil women and their evil influence, i.e. prostitutes, etc. In so doing, they have made themselves more evil, than their victims. Only fanaticism, can allow the devil to be able to create this kind of totally-illogical situation, in someone’s mind. How can you possibly not be worse than a prostitute, if you become a murderer (like “Jack the Ripper”, etc.)?
3:147 Fanaticism, or a closed-mind, always leads to trouble, especially religious (Satan’s invention) fanaticism, because it allows the devil to REALLY get hold of the soul, and deceive it, into doing evil, whilst believing that it is doing it for God: hence these insane murderers, and religious-wars (John 16:1-4).
3:148 You must always be balanced, and must not submit to ANY over-whelming animal emotion. Remember that Satan talks to your animal body, so you MUST learn CONTROL.
3:149 Jesus was perfectly balanced, spiritually, at all times, because he asked for, and received, God’s help, especially when he was being struck and spit-upon, and his human-life was in danger, and you must do the same.
3:150 God says, “You shall not kill”, EXCEPT in self-defence (real and not imaginary), or as a punishment in accordance with GOD’s Laws and JUDGEMENTS.
3:151 You must dissuade people from doing evil, by setting them a good example, or by shunning them, to make them ashamed of themselves, and love them into changing their ways.
3:152 NEVER under-estimate the POWER of “The FORCE” of spiritual (Divine) love. It is the greatest and most powerful force, in the whole of creation.
3:153 It is also important, to understand the use of “The Force” of love, in respect of health.
3:154 I have already explained, that your human-parents’ bodies made the body (human-animal), that you are temporarily using, but that they are not really your parents, because their bodies did not make your soul (the REAL you), just as their parents’ bodies did not make their souls. “Call no man upon the Earth your father, your Father is in heaven” (Matt. 23:9).
3:155 That does NOT mean that you should dis-own each other! Everyone’s soul came from the Morning Star, thousands of years ago, and that is why Christ said, that his body’s mother, and his body’s brothers (humans) were NOT his mother and brothers, but that the souls (people), that hear and believe his words, and put them into practice, keep the COMMANDMENTS and DO God’s Will, are his mother and brothers and sisters (relatives).
3:156 This means that the souls who want to be good, and live, and eventually go home, are his relatives, and that the rest are not, because they want to continue to be evil, and, thereby, remain His enemy, and their souls are going to die, on the Last-Day.
3:157 This explains why the second COMMANDMENT says, “Love your NEIGHBOUR as yourself [and not just the people of your own household]” (Mark 12:31). Your neighbour is not just the man next-door, but also the man on the far side of the planet and everyone in between!
3:158 From the time that Jesus began his ministry, right up until his human-death on the cross, he called Mary “WOMAN”, and NOT mother (John 2:4 & 19:26).
3:159 ALL souls are related, because they originally came from heaven, and it is the soul that is important; bodies are only prison-cells, and worthless.

Love ALL your relatives, NOT just those of your body!​

3:160 That person that you can see in trouble, could have been your dead grand-parent re-incarnated. Shouldn’t you be helping them?

 

[A Freeman]

3:161 When a soul (Being) has learned all that it can, in a particular body and environment, it is time to move-on, to a new body and a new environment, to learn some more, and so, that body dies. The soul is then unlocked, from the body, and goes to the Astral Plain, and later-on, it is sent back, into its next body, to learn something different.
3:162 If the soul has been good, it gets a healthy-body, and if it has been VERY bad, it can get a disabled or deformed body, as a punishment, to teach it HUMILITY.
3:163 If you are given a healthy-body, and you always do good, you will always be healthy, because your healthy spirit, within your body, will keep the body healthy. A healthy spirit, which lives always in the Light, will keep its body healthy, until it is time for it to move-on, to a new body and environment, to learn some more. “The good die young.”
3:164 If you were given a healthy-body, and you start to do evil, and to live in the dark, then your evil, unhealthy spirit, will poison the body from within, and it will become sick, which is part of the punishment (Divine Justice) for doing, or THINKING evil.
3:165 If you then stop doing evil, and come out into the Light, and do God’s Will, your now sick body will heal itself, from within. So, if you start to become ill, you should recognise it for what it is - i.e. a sign, that you have taken a step, in the wrong direction; stop, and; instead of running to the medicine-cupboard, or doctors; ask God, where you have gone wrong, then follow His guidance and continue on the right path, and the sickness will get better. However, if you continue to go in the wrong direction, your illness will get worse and worse.
3:166 Doctors; with their drugs, surgery and obscene machinery; temporarily relieve the body’s physical symptoms, thereby allowing you to ignore God’s signs, and continue going the wrong way, and so, unwittingly; by trying to play at being God; they are actually helping Satan, and doing you all a great deal of harm. If they weren’t there, and/or didn’t profess to have the answers, you would all HAVE to ask God to help you, which is exactly what He wants you to do, and is why He sent you the sign (of being sick - Deut. 28:58-61), in the first-place. There are NONE so blind, as those who REFUSE to see.
3:167 EVERYTHING in life is for a REASON! Seek and you will FIND that reason, but you have to seek in the right place - GOD - with ALL your heart (Jeremiah 29:13).
3:168 If you were given a sick-body, as a punishment/Karmic debt and you do good, then, your now healthy spirit will start to heal the body, from within, or, your punishment will be terminated, and the sick-body will die, and you will get a new healthy-one, depending upon the severity of your punishment and sickness.
3:169 Human bodies HAVE to die, or there would be no progress; no “fresh-starts”; no way to control the population-explosion, and also, no way to allow nature’s natural process to keep the breed healthy, young and strong. You can not have many more bodies, than there are souls to use them. Bodies were only designed to be prison-cells for the souls (Beings/Jinns), and are themselves worthless.
3:170 God has sent many “clues” for you, about the fact that “the physical reflects the mental and spiritual”, one of which is the story, that God wrote; using the hand of Oscar Wilde; called “The Picture of Dorian Gray”, which illustrates it perfectly.
3:171 This story of Dorian Gray and his portrait, and his deal with the Devil, shows perfectly; that the physical; which Dorian transferred to the portrait, by making a deal with Satan; reflects the mental and spiritual.
3:172 Every time Dorian did something evil, the painting of himself became more and more grotesque; evil-looking; wizened and wrinkled; until he could not bear to look at his own evil soul’s effect on his body, portrayed on the canvas.
3:173 There are other “clues”, in the story of Dorian Gray, about this reflection, and also about “HOME”.
3:174 In the story, Dorian has a book sent to him, by his friend Henry. The book is about evil deeds, and how people that do evil deeds start to look evil. The reason why no-one suspected Dorian, of doing evil deeds, was because he looked so handsome; young; innocent and healthy. They did not know that Dorian had done a deal with Satan, and that the painting was looking more and more evil and sick, instead of him.
3:175 Dorian reads this book, in the evening, by the light of a single “bright star” (Rev. 22:16 / King of kings’ Bible - Rev. 30:16), until night falls, and he can not read any more. This is a “clue” about “HOME”, because the only star, that it could have possibly been, is the Morning/Evening Star (Venus), which is the brightest star in the sky, and can be seen before the sky goes dark, and all the others then appear.
3:176 Doctors, by playing at God; keeping bodies alive, when they should have died, and the soul (Being/Jinn) should have received a new body; are actually causing unnecessary suffering, by prolonging people’s illnesses, and, thereby, also their punishment, and the pain they have to suffer. IF they stopped playing at God; as they should, and let the body die, as God intended; the suffering would STOP, and the soul (Being/Jinn) would get a brand-new body (human).
3:177 As already mentioned in Ch. 2, mankind MUST live WITH nature, in order to survive and to keep the race HEALTHY. Unfortunately, AS USUAL, mankind is living AGAINST God and nature, weakening the race, and filling the world with more and more sick and crippled bodies, thereby causing the souls; that then have to use those bodies; to have to suffer unnecessarily, just so that the selfish parents can have a baby. What about the RIGHTS of the poor soul, that is then forced to have to use that baby (body), and suffer being permanently sick or crippled?
3:178 When nature rejects a baby, and it is ejected (born prematurely), it is for a VERY GOOD REASON - i.e. because the baby (human) is not going to be healthy-enough, to be able to be used properly by a soul (Being/Jinn), and therefore it is rejected.
3:179 Then along comes faithless, insane man, who thinks he knows better than God, and builds obscene machines, to keep those babies alive, so that they can grow-up (2 Esdras 6:21) to be cripples, and/or suffer from terrible diseases, or chronic illness, causing the souls, that have been forced to use those bodies, to have to suffer, and the parents too, with everyone-else having to pay extortionate taxes, to pay for the expensive machinery, and the doctors’ wages, etc. The doctors then; by filling the world with sick bodies; have ensured for themselves and the pharmaceutical companies, a secure job for life.
3:180 If those babies then grow-up and have children, they then make the situation even worse, by passing-on and multiplying; through their genes; the imperfections. Carried to its ultimate conclusion, the entire world would end up being sick and crippled, with no-one healthy enough to be able to work and pay taxes for; or personally take care of; the sick; or be able to grow food to feed themselves and the sick. The whole thing is self-defeating, with the ever-decreasing healthy population paying more and more taxes, to maintain the ever-increasing sick and crippled population, all of which is caused by a lack of faith.

 

[A Freeman]

3:181 All you chronically-sick and crippled people have your parents’ selfishness, the doctors’ and your own, and everyone else’s insanity, and lack of faith, to thank for your suffering. When, if you let go, and they stopped meddling, YOU could have a brand-new, perfectly healthy body to use, instead of suffering, in your present-one.
3:182 When you break the rules, or have lack of faith, in God and His Wisdom, you automatically cause yourself to suffer.
3:183 There is also a very good reason, why, some people can not have babies, and that is, either, because their genes (of their bodies) would create unhealthy babies, as explained above, or God either does not consider them fit to be parents, because they would teach a child the wrong things, or, He is punishing them for what they did, in their former human-life, which could have been mistreating their children.

Turn to GOD for your cures and answers, NOT to men.​

3:184 Natural-medicine; creams; herbal-remedies, etc. and the stitching of wounds; setting of broken bones; delivering babies and nursing, are a natural part of loving and caring for one another.
3:185 Because of this lack of REAL faith, in God and life-after-death, with people consequently clinging, desperately, to the present human-life that they have, no-matter what the cost, we now have a world FULL of sick people, and overflowing hospitals, and some very rich doctors and pharmaceutical companies: all of which is a terrific drain on society. Doctors are unknowingly assisting Satan, by helping people to continue to go the wrong way (do evil), because they are keeping people’s bodies healthy (?), by artificial means. They too have under-estimated Satan, been conned, and many sincerely believe that they are helping mankind, when, in fact, they have been deceived, and are actually working for Satan, and mankind’s destruction.

The road to Hell-Fire is paved with good intentions!!!​

3:186 If doctors and surgeons are doing what is right, i.e. God’s Will; why do they suffer so much, from stress, that many of them are heavy smokers and drinkers, at best, and alcoholics at worst; abuse tranquilizing-drugs and have nervous-breakdowns?
3:187 Stress is caused by a lack of faith; by fear and by going against God’s Will; NOT by overwork. Overworking causes physical tiredness, NOT stress.
3:188 If they are so clever and know all the answers; as you seem to think they do, because you go to them for your answers; why don’t they heal themselves (“physician heal thyself”)? They can not and they are not clever, and yet YOU go to THEM for help, instead of going to GOD, as you SHOULD do (Deut. 32:39).
3:189 The medical-people have made human-death, almost totally illegal, and have removed and hidden it away from society, and thereby made it an unfamiliar thing, to be feared and avoided, at ANY cost.
3:190 Human-death is a perfectly natural, necessary and good thing, and is unimportant, because YOU ARE NOT HUMAN. It should be a natural part of every-day-life, and NOT something to hide away from view, and consequently to be feared.
3:191 It is WHY your body dies that is important, the death itself does not matter, except if it is murdered, or you commit suicide.
3:192 God takes the attitude, that if you want to prolong your own suffering, because you have no faith in Him, and also extend your own sentence and punishment, by not moving-on, to learn the new things, that you should be learning, then He will let you continue to punish yourselves. You are also, by doing this, wasting what precious, little time you have left, to earn your pardon.

“The Fire” is getting closer, by the minute!!!​

3:193 The answer, to EVERY question in life, is with God. Don’t look to humans for answers, or cures, look to your Maker. God is not just a body-mechanic, like a doctor; He is the designer-builder and master-engineer.
3:194 Doctors, surgeons and psychiatrists do not know how to make a human+being, but God does. They do not even know what a soul (Being/Jinn) is, or where it came from, or what a human-animal is and the inter-relationship, between the two. God does!
3:195 Get it right with God, first, and then heal yourself, from within, or, get your punishment commuted, and get a new body to use, and a fresh-start.

Why punish yourselves???​

3:196 You can NEVER beat God. If you could, He would be here, instead of you.

Being afraid of human-death makes absolutely no sense!

​

3:197 As promised, earlier in this chapter, I am now going to explain, for the benefit of those people, who have made the wrong assumption; i.e. that I must hate women; how their logic, upon which they have based this wrong assumption, is TOTALLY illogical, and how those same people have no idea what REAL love is.
3:198 IF I hated women, and knowing, as I do, that, what they are doing now, is not only harming them now, but is ultimately going to cause them to be executed, then surely, if I DID hate them, I would be telling them to carry-on doing what they are doing, and advising people to take advantage of them sexually, and in other ways, so that they WILL be executed. Wouldn’t I?
3:199 What AM I doing? I am putting myself, into a position, where I will have to suffer verbal, and possibly physical abuse; from the ones who do not want to try to understand; in an attempt to help them to save their own lives, not mine (REAL LOVE).
3:200 What are those who falsely claim to love women doing? They are telling lies to women, because they are pathetic; telling women that they love them, to enable themselves to be able to steal sexual favours, and, thereby, are deceiving them, and leading them astray; causing heart-ache; creating unwanted babies and messing-up women’s minds and lives; creating terrible havoc in the world.

Who REALLY loves you ladies? Me, or them? You decide.

NOW can you see your own illogic?
​

To continue reading, please visit the link below, and download a free copy of The Way home or face The Fire by JAH:

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[JoChris]

@A Freeman, via three long quotations from that ebook, are you actually giving us permission to go through AJH's propaganda manual with a fine tooth comb, comparing it to the bible?!!!
Would you actually defend your real religious text or would you run away as usual?

 

[lightseeker]

@A Freeman, via three long quotations from that ebook, are you actually giving us permission to go through AJH's propaganda manual with a fine tooth comb, comparing it to the bible?!!!
Would you actually defend your real religious text or would you run away as usual?

He always does that when he loses an argument or cant answer simple questions, just tries to bury it in walls of copy and pasted text. But I think anyone should do that who has the stomach to get through it! Already in the first part, he says that earth was a planet with no intelligent life and freeman’s “god” decided to send the luciferic people from Venus (which he thinks is on the other side of the galaxy lol) as a prison. Complete contradiction to the bible who made the earth with all its creatures and said that it was Good.

 

[JoChris]

He always does that when he loses an argument or cant answer simple questions, just tries to bury it in walls of copy and pasted text. But I think anyone should do that who has the stomach to get through it! Already in the first part, he says that earth was a planet with no intelligent life and freeman’s “god” decided to send the luciferic people from Venus (which he thinks is on the other side of the galaxy lol) as a prison. Complete contradiction to the bible who made the earth with all its creatures and said that it was Good.

Well if you and several others are as stubborn as me, we could have a great time pulling it apart!

 

[JoChris]

Well if you and several others are as stubborn as me, we could have a great time pulling it apart!

I started it now, please join in everyone - including non-Christian lurkers. https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/comparison-of-jahtruths-the-way-home-or-face-the-fire-to-the-bible.10878/#post-551583
Please remember that the goal is to analyse AJH's book only, comparing it to other religions when that is relevant. That includes any religion or ideology, a lot of beliefs sound different to Judeo-Christian beliefs and Islamic beliefs as well!

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

JAH (born 75 years ago in Sheffield England on the 22nd of April 1948) is the human body that Christ is presently INCARNATING, just as Christ INCARNATED the body of Jesus (the human son of the virgin Mary) 2000 years ago.

Direct questions:

Are you saying that Jesus was only "the human son of the virgin Mary" and not also the son of God?

Are you saying that Jesus was born of a virgin, or not (As in, are you saying he had a human father)?

Are you implying, or directly stating, that jah was also born of a virgin, or do you acknowledge he has a human father?

How can they both be "Christ incarnating", just during different time periods, unless one of the above is true (according to you)?

 

[A Freeman]

Direct questions:

Are you saying that Jesus was only "the human son of the virgin Mary" and not also the son of God?

Exactly as it tells us in Scripture, Christ, the immortal Spiritual-Being IS the Firstborn/First-Created Son of God. Christ has been here (on Earth) many times over the past 6000 years.
Note: "Christ" is a title, which means "The Anointed One", i.e. The One Whom God Anointed to be King. Christ's Name in heaven is Michael, which means "Who is Like God?"

Jesus, the mortal human WAS the human son born of the VIRGIN body of Mary, hence the designation "Son of Man". Jesus was crucified, died and was buried at the age of 40. Three days and three nights later (on the Sabbath Day, NOT Ishtar/Easter Sunday), God raised/resurrected the mortal body of Jesus, which Christ then reincarnated.
Note: "Jesus" is both a name and a title, which means "Saviour" or, more specifically, that title means "YHWH Saves" (in English "The 'I AM' Saves").

When Christ incarnated the human body of Jesus 2000 years ago, They became the human+Being referred to as Jesus+Christ.

Since the crucifixion, resurrection and ascension roughly 2000 years ago, the title Christ-Jesus means "Christ, The Saviour".

Are you saying that Jesus was born of a virgin, or not (As in, are you saying he had a human father)?

Exactly as it says in Scripture, Jesus was born of a virgin, named Mary, in Bethlehem of Judea, here on Earth. Being born of a virgin means there was no human biological dad.

Are you implying, or directly stating, that jah was also born of a virgin, or do you acknowledge he has a human father?

At no time has it been directly said nor implied that JAH did not have a human dad. Interestingly, His human dad was a carpenter this time, just as Joseph (Mary's husband) was. There is nothing in Scripture to indicate a virgin birth during His 'Second' Coming right before Judgement Day, but there is very specific information prophesied in Scripture about when and where that body would be born, to what Israelite tribe it would be born, what Christ's Mission is while incarnated inside of that human body, and what will happen when that body dies (Matt. 24:28-31).

https://gibraltar-messenger.net/jahtruth/the-scriptural-marks-of-christ/

How can they both be "Christ incarnating", just during different time periods, unless one of the above is true (according to you)?

As above please. Same Christ (Son of God), Who is NOT OF THIS WORLD, incarnated inside two different human bodies (Son of Man) at two different times: 2000 years ago, and now, in a new body with a NEW NAME (Rev. 2:17; 3:12; 19:12).

 

[The Sojourner]

It seems that unlike so many, Imran Hosein completely gets the explanation regarding the Crucification and Resurrection of Jesus, as it's written in the Holy Koran/Quran (confirming what is written in the Bible):

It might be of interest for readers to note, that he (and he identifies as a Muslim) seems to be in complete agreement with the explanitory notes found in the King of kings' Bible, Sura 4.

They Killed Christ Not

jahtruth.net

It really is that simple.
Imran Hosein is able to see it, and to say it.
It is definitely a big step in the right direction.

Yet, how many people will continue refusing to see, what is so simple and so clear.
The Holy Koran/Quran was sent to confirm the Torah and the Gospel, written in the Holy Bible.
Reading the Koran section in the King of kings' Bible, makes this especially easy to see, by following the cross references.

 

[JoChris]

It seems that unlike so many, Imran Hosein completely gets the explanation regarding the Crucification and Resurrection of Jesus, as it's written in the Holy Koran/Quran (confirming what is written in the Bible):

It might be of interest for readers to note, that he (and he identifies as a Muslim) seems to be in complete agreement with the explanitory notes found in the King of kings' Bible, Sura 4.

They Killed Christ Not

jahtruth.net

It really is that simple.
Imran Hosein is able to see it, and to say it.
It is definitely a big step in the right direction.

Yet, how many people will continue refusing to see, what is so simple and so clear.
The Holy Koran/Quran was sent to confirm the Torah and the Gospel, written in the Holy Bible.
Reading the Koran section in the King of kings' Bible, makes this especially easy to see, by following the cross references.

Yes, it is so easy to see.... IF you are a JAHtruther.

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

There is nothing in Scripture to indicate a virgin birth during His 'Second' Coming right before Judgement Day, but there is very specific information prophesied in Scripture about when and where that body would be born, to what Israelite tribe it would be born, what Christ's Mission is while incarnated inside of that human body, and what will happen when that body dies (Matt. 24:28-31

Correct, there is nothing to indicate a virgin birth before his second coming, because scripture tells us He will return the same way He left, and in the same body.

Matt 24:30 confirms He will come from the clouds...

30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Acts 1:9-11

9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


(Just providing a "2nd witness", as that's a common rebuttal from you)

I was just asking to clarify what you were saying, which you did.

 

[A Freeman]

Correct, there is nothing to indicate a virgin birth before his second coming, because scripture tells us He will return the same way He left, and in the same body.

Matt 24:30 confirms He will come from the clouds...

30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Acts 1:9-11

9And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight. 10And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.


(Just providing a "2nd witness", as that's a common rebuttal from you)

I was just asking to clarify what you were saying, which you did.

Why are you ignoring Matthew 24:27-29 please, where Christ tells us what His Second Coming will be like, and what will happen when the body He is presently using dies (v. 28)?

Of course when Christ sheds the body He is presently using, He will be seen coming in the "clouds" with the heavenly host (eagles) and great glory, at which time the Reaping will begin (when the "Elect" are gathered)..

That's why it says that all the tribes and kindred of the Earth will wail and mourn when they see Him coming.

Matthew 24:27-31
24:27 For as the lightening cometh out of the East, and shineth even unto the West; so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be.
24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the "sun" be darkened, and the "moon" shall not give her light, and the "stars" shall fall from heaven, and the "powers of the heavens" shall be shaken:
24:30 And THEN shall appear the Sign ("Star") of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall ALL the tribes of the Earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the "Clouds" of heaven with power and great glory.
24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet (7th.), and they shall gather together his Elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with "Clouds"; and every eye shall see him, and they [also] which pierced him: and all kindreds of the Earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Nothing about what Christ said in Matthew 24:27-31 conflicts with what it says in Acts 1:9-11, as He will be seen in returning in the same way as they saw Him taken up to heaven, in a "cloud" AFTER the body He is presently using dies.

Luke 17:26-37
17:26 And as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of Man.
17:27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.
17:28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
17:29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [them] all.
17:30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.
17:31 In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.
17:32 Remember Lot's wife.
17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.
17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bedroom; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
17:35 Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
17:36 Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
17:37 And they answered and said unto him, Where, Lord? And he said unto them, Wheresoever the body [is], there will the eagles be gathered together.

The days of Noah included him spending almost 100 years building a boat the size of a small aircraft carrier while warning people that the flood was coming BEFORE the flood arrived.

What did the people do that Noah tried to warn? They laughed at him and mocked him, believing he was crazy. And what happened to those people? They all died in the flood. All except for Noah and his family members, who survived because they believed ONLY God and did His Will (while being mocked by others for doing it).

It is exactly the same for Christ now, as it was for Noah. Everyone laughing and mocking, claiming these aren't the end-times, or that Judgment Day will allegedly never come or, if it does, "it won't be in my lifetime". And what will happen to all those among the mockers who aren't members of Christ's family? They will go into The Fire, exactly as Christ has warned in The Way home or face The Fire, published in 1986 (almost a generation ago now).

Similarly, when Lot went out from Sodom, fire rained down on it. Same as will happen when Christ goes out from the body He is presently using to warn everyone of what our options are.

This is our Reality -- all of us -- which is why we need to be learning right from wrong from God and His Law, so that we can do His Will, as Christ Commands. This isn't being shared to start nor even to finish an argument; it's shared in the same manner that Noah shared the Truth about the flood: The Fire IS Coming, and NONE of us are ready for it, regardless of whatever lies we may be telling ourselves.

Be ye perfect should be our goal. Any lower standard is a waste of what little time is left.

 

[The Sojourner]

Yes, it is so easy to see.... IF you are a JAHtruther.

Is Imran Hosein a JAHTruther? Because he sees it. He is also a scholar, so, his explanation should be of particular interest to you.

 

[ToxicFemininitySucks]

the body He is presently using dies (v. 28)?

Because it doesnt say anywhere in the verse "the body He is presently using".

That is just additional commentary from jah, which, as i don't accept that he is Jesus reincarnated, i don't accept as authoritative.


Matt 24:26-31

26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

One explanation of these verses is that the second coming will occur as the eagles (which as i understand, the term can also refer to vultures) are feasting on the carcasses of those who perish during the battle of armaggedon.

Rev 19:17-18
17And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Of course, i am not forcing you, or anyone, to accept this explanation.

Nothing about what Christ said in Matthew 24:27-31 conflicts with what it says in Acts 1:9-11, as He will be seen in returning in the same way as they saw Him taken up to heaven, in a "cloud" AFTER the body He is presently using dies.

As i already mentioned, scripture does not say anything about the body He is "presently" using.

The days of Noah included him spending almost 100 years building a boat the size of a small aircraft carrier while warning people that the flood was coming BEFORE the flood arrived.

What did the people do that Noah tried to warn? They laughed at him and mocked him, believing he was crazy. And what happened to those people? They all died in the flood. All except for Noah and his family members, who survived because they believed ONLY God and did His Will (while being mocked by others for doing it).

It is exactly the same for Christ now, as it was for Noah. Everyone laughing and mocking, claiming these aren't the end-times, or that Judgment Day will allegedly never come or, if it does, "it won't be in my lifetime".

I agree with you on this.

Similarly, when Lot went out from Sodom, fire rained down on it.

Since you bring up the similarity of Lot's situation and Noah's, surely you've noticed the difference between the two. Lot gets out in the nick of time, losing his wife in the process as she looked back to "the world" (remember Lot's wife...) , while Noah and his family entered the ark safely and waited faithfully for an entire week before it began to rain.

Be ye perfect should be our goal. Any lower standard is a waste of what little time is left.

Perhaps it should be our goal. I am not one of those people who believe we should sin shamelessly, as i've seen some Christians be sterotyped as.

I also know that if we fail in one aspect we fall short of that goal. If we break one aspect of the Law we are as good as someone who breaks it all.

Thank God that He sent Jesus to cover us with His righteousness as we face God at the Judgment.